Re: PESO: Neglect

[David Mann]

It'd be nice to preserve it but hideously expensive and very difficult to do 
safely.  And that's before you consider trying to bring it up to modern 
earthquake standards.  What's left of the building is badly cracked and 
considered unstable which is why the perimeter inside the fence is so wide.

Whatever the outcome it'd be nice to see some progress being made.  I don't 
have a preference one way or the other.

On a brighter note we also visited the great hall at the Arts Centre (the 
former university) which is built in the same neo-gothic style.  The whole 
complex is being restored and strengthened and is looking pretty good so far.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 4:30 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> 
> I have seen a number of these situations, and they always frustrate me.
> 
> Personally, I would like to see a building like that preserved.  I don't
> own the buiding, however, the church does, and the church shouldn't be
> forced to restore it.  If the well-meaning "preservationists" was to save
> it, let them raise the money to buy the property and restore the building.
> 
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:57 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> 
>> We went to the cheesemongers this morning but the shop was super busy so
>> it wasn't a good idea for us to bring the baby's stroller in.  While my
>> wife queued for cheese I took my darling daughter for a walk and ended up
>> in Cathedral Square.
>> 
>> http://gallery.multi.net.nz/photo/1033/#peso
>> 
>> I shot this through a gate in the fence.
>> 
>> There are a lot of politics going on behind the scenes here.  The Anglican
>> church, who own the cathedral and the land it's on, want to knock it down
>> and replace it, but there's a vocal opposition who think it can be made
>> safe and restored on a reasonable budget.  Meanwhile the building continues
>> to decay while all the money is being spent on lawyers.  I'm actually
>> surprised the recent 7.8 quake didn't make the decision for them.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Mark Roberts]

On Fri, 23 Dec 2016 23:52:32 +, you wrote:

>On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
>>can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
>>complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
>>
>>http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
>
>Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
>pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
>lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
>motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
>detailing just such info.

The PUG archive is a fascinating tour through the past. What's
interesting about the web is how it's a continually updated time
capsule that one can consult any time. It's particularly fascinating
to be able to go through the era during which photography made the
transition from film to digital. When the PUG began in 1997 serious
photography, even at the most basic amateur level, was a strictly
analogue endeavour; digital cameras of the time were toys with
hopelessly limited resolution and dynamic range. Look at those early
galleries, made at a time when 400 x 600 pixels was a large online
image (when the standard monitor had 600 x 800 resolution).

I seriously hope there are good back-ups of the entire PUG kept
because it's the kind of thing that will be of inestimable value to
historians of future generations.

...and on that note I'd like to add that the PDML Photo Annual has
similar value. I do wish we'd started it a few years earlier, so as to
capture the height of the transition between film and digital
(probably beginning with the Canon D30, which appeared in late
200/early 2001, and being "stick a fork in it" done by 2003 with the
Pentax ist-D". But I doubt the print-on-demand publishing industry was
quite up to speed at that time either.

Still, we're planning on doing another Photo Annual for 2017. Start
getting your best images ready.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 12:40 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> I love spellcheck sometimes... it made such a nice sentiment out of 
> Brian's line...
> 

:-)>


Cheers

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> On 12/23/2016 3:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
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> > If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays
> 
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Re: PESO: Another Dog Picture

[Bill]

On 12/22/2016 1:06 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bill,
Sorry for your loss.  I'm sure you'll miss him.  Bob S.


Thanks Bob.

bill


On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:28 PM, Bill  wrote:


On 12/20/2016 5:51 AM, Carlos R wrote:


Very sorry to hear that, Bill. Nice dog and nice photo too.



Thanks Carlos.



Carlos

2016-12-18 17:39 GMT+01:00 Bill :

Five weeks ago, my Rottie was diagnosed with lymphoma. We had him put to

sleep last Tuesday.
This was taken in September while he was still healthy, and is one of the
last pictures I have of him.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrphoto/addons/byebug.html

K1, 43mm LTD. f/2.2, 1/60th, ISO 6400.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[ann sanfedele]

I love spellcheck sometimes... it made such a nice sentiment out of 
Brian's line...



On 12/23/2016 3:28 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

..
If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 10:52 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
> >can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
> >complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html
> 
> Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
> pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
> lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
> motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
> detailing just such info.
> 


That, of course, should have been 'idle time' in my post

As near as I can tell my first PUG submission was a pretty poor effort
for 'Opposites' in November 2007.


Cheers

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 24/12/16, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
>can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
>complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html

Cool - thanks for posting - had a look at the first few years. My first
pic was in February of 2001 but pretty sure I found the list and started
lurking late 1998. I was looking for info on re-celling a Pentax LX
motor drive and dear Rob Studdert pointed me to one of his web pages
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I'm just polishing the compilations now. If anyone has any they remember 
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Re: Season's Greetings!

[Brian Walters]

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016, at 10:37 AM, John Coyle wrote:
> To everyone on the group, and particularly all we met, Jan and I wish you
> all a Merry Christmas  and
> a happy and successful New Year.
> We're away now for a few days, with no email facility, but I'll catch up
> next week!



The same to you and your family, John. 

And best wishes to all of my PDML friends - keep snapping in 2017!


Cheers

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Re: OT: Service interruption

[John Francis]

Murphy seems to be busy at this time of year ...

Shortly after my main computer decided to stop working,
my alternate system - a small, lightweight Dell XPS 13 -
decided that charging its battery was too much trouble.
This left me with an indicated three hours or so before
I would be cut off from the internet :-(

Somewhat later HP decided that, despite their quoted
delivery time when I placed the order (and an assurance
in the later shipping confirmation email) my order
would not, in fact, be delivered before December 25th;
it would instead be delivered on December 28th.

Fortunately a quick Google search (using my wife's
computer to preserve what little battery life remained
on the Dell) suggested that I was by no means the first
person to run into this problem, and the recommended
solution was to power down & disconnect the battery to
force the machine to reset itself. (Some folk suggested
simply running down the battery instead, but that was
not what Dell product support seemed to recommend).

I'm somewhat reluctant to mess around with hardware
(especially when poking around near components that
don't take kindly to static electricity and the like),
but I decided to give it a try.  Fortunately I did have
the somewhat uncommon tool needed to remove the notebooks's
back cover (a Torx T5 driver, I believe), and a suitable
Philips screwdriver to undo the battery retaining screws.

As you might guess, since I'm able to get online again,
I was succesful in getting the system to reinitialize
the charging circuitry.  Not only that - last night
FedEx changed the expected delivery date for my new
system back to today, and the current status shows
that it is on a truck out to be delivered within the
next few hours!  I'm keeping my fingers crossed ...


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Sat, Dec 24, 2016, at 06:05 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> The first PUG was indeed revealed on April 1, 1997, on some of my 
> personal server space, later transferred to the komkon server. It was 
> just a few photos and each page was coded separately using my clunky 
> HTML skills. In fact, for quite some time each gallery had to be coded, 
> which explains the long gaps between some of them, leading to some 
> grumblings in the ranks, which came to a head when I was in Little Rock, 
> Arkansas, prepping for my mother's funeral in January of 1999. It was 
> determined that I had my time priorities out of whack and I was booted 
> from my post as first PUGmaster.
> 
> All this was before I took over The List from Pentax, which happened 
> during the Christmas/New Year transition from 2000 to 2001.


That's a bit of interesting PUG history - thanks, Doug.

If anyone wants to spend a bit of ideal time during the holidays, you
can spend an hour or so perusing the old galleries,  You'll find the
complete PUG here, all the way back to April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> On 12/20/16 2:40 PM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"  
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
> >> 2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
> >> prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
> >> 2000.
> >>
> >> As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
> >> posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html
> >
> > I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about (maybe 
> > six
> > months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted) when we 
> > were
> > booted off.
> >
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Re: Happy Holidays!

[Jack Davis]

Thanks, non Michigan Paul!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Paul in MKE  wrote:
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> Wishing everyone the best...from another Paul
> 
> http://studio1941.com/koken/albums/wisconsin-winter/content/spikey-peace-joy-love/
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>> On 12/23/2016 8:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
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Re: Merry Christmas, Happy New Year and Seasons Greetings

[Jack Davis]

Nicely done, Ken!
Beautifully conveys the sentiment!
Thanks!

J
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> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17634393
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

Yeah, I understand all that part. It's the technical details that
continue to elude me.

Most of the social media I don't use really doesn't work very well
unless you have a smart phone. I don't have one & I don't see that I
need one. That might change, but not today.

My latest cell phone has a camera. Verizon gave it to me "free" and cut
the price of my service plan to get me to give up my old cell phone.

I've taken a picture with it. I don't have internet or texting or all
that other smart phone stuff on my phone. It's just a basic flip-phone I
have so I can make telephone calls.

It took me almost an hour on the phone with Verizon's help desk to get
the photo from the phone to my desktop (email inbox). I could have
solved the problem more quickly by just going home & getting a camera,
then coming back to the location & duplicating the photograph (static
subject).

The there's facebook. I don't have facebook because I have a bad
attitude. When it first came out, I was bombarded by people telling me I
*HAD TO HAVE* facebook, which pushed one of my hot-buttons. I get
stubborn. I *DO NOT* have to have facebook, and I won't.

You can't make me, so I ain't gonna'!

Plus, I can hardly make heads or tails of Google+, so why would I want
another one I can't figure out.

I understand email & I understand Flickr. I'm good.


On 12/23/2016 1:07 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Social platforms are easy to understand, you post images and messages to
your friends, and the platform offers you a "free" location.  The
platform takes any information you post and monetizes it for it's
benefit and makes oodles of money, and maybe retains all rights to your
content.  It's an easy to understand concept.  You get a "free" service,
they use it to sell you things and sell actually sell the online you to
the highest bidder.  It's a win-win for them.


On 12/23/2016 12:35 PM, John wrote:

On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.



But you still can't post images & messages together like you can with
twitter or facebook or whatever the latest social media platform I don't
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[Ken Waller]

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

Someone's comment prompted me to try to take a look at all of the PUGs
from the beginning.

A couple of things have come to my attention so far ...

Some familiar names, but a lot of names that have passed by the wayside
by the time I got here. I wonder what happened to them.

I'm too critical of my own photography. It may be crap, but that
shouldn't stop me from posting it.


On 12/23/2016 2:05 PM, Doug Brewer wrote:

The first PUG was indeed revealed on April 1, 1997, on some of my
personal server space, later transferred to the komkon server. It was
just a few photos and each page was coded separately using my clunky
HTML skills. In fact, for quite some time each gallery had to be coded,
which explains the long gaps between some of them, leading to some
grumblings in the ranks, which came to a head when I was in Little Rock,
Arkansas, prepping for my mother's funeral in January of 1999. It was
determined that I had my time priorities out of whack and I was booted
from my post as first PUGmaster.

All this was before I took over The List from Pentax, which happened
during the Christmas/New Year transition from 2000 to 2001.

On 12/20/16 2:40 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"
 wrote:


I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in
early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still
around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about
(maybe six
months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted)
when we were
booted off.





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Re: Happy Holidays!

[Ken Waller]

Well done Paul - it is sure Michigan looking !

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Doug Brewer]

The first PUG was indeed revealed on April 1, 1997, on some of my 
personal server space, later transferred to the komkon server. It was 
just a few photos and each page was coded separately using my clunky 
HTML skills. In fact, for quite some time each gallery had to be coded, 
which explains the long gaps between some of them, leading to some 
grumblings in the ranks, which came to a head when I was in Little Rock, 
Arkansas, prepping for my mother's funeral in January of 1999. It was 
determined that I had my time priorities out of whack and I was booted 
from my post as first PUGmaster.


All this was before I took over The List from Pentax, which happened 
during the Christmas/New Year transition from 2000 to 2001.


On 12/20/16 2:40 PM, mike wilson wrote:

On 20 December 2016 at 19:08 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:


I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


I think that may be the first PUG off the Pentax server. It's about (maybe six
months after, if my increasingly fallible memory is to be trusted) when we were
booted off.



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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Social platforms are easy to understand, you post images and messages to 
your friends, and the platform offers you a "free" location.  The 
platform takes any information you post and monetizes it for it's 
benefit and makes oodles of money, and maybe retains all rights to your 
content.  It's an easy to understand concept.  You get a "free" service, 
they use it to sell you things and sell actually sell the online you to 
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On 12/23/2016 12:35 PM, John wrote:

On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.



But you still can't post images & messages together like you can with
twitter or facebook or whatever the latest social media platform I don't
understand is.





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Re: Happy Holidays!

[Paul in MKE]

Wishing everyone the best...from another Paul

http://studio1941.com/koken/albums/wisconsin-winter/content/spikey-peace-joy-love/


On 12/23/2016 8:00 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18325410=lg



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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.



But you still can't post images & messages together like you can with
twitter or facebook or whatever the latest social media platform I don't
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[John]

They're all using iPhones and when they finally get ready for a serious
camera they're captured by canikon or they get something 4/3.

On 12/22/2016 8:29 PM, Gonz wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 07:43 AM, Jostein wrote:

My first is also in June -98. The URL in the gallery is wrong though. :-)



Not any more  :-)>



Cheers

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link in gallery: http://pug.komkon.org/jun98/jun7.htm
link should be:  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun7.htm

A different version of that shot was also the first image I got into the
Premiere collection at the PPG, more than a decade later.

Jostein

Den 20.12.2016 21.06, skrev John Francis:

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 02:08:41PM -0500, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I just checked back and find that the first PUG I entered was in April
2000.  I know that it took me a few months to figure out how to scan my
prints for submission to the PUD, so I must have joined some time in early
2000.

As far as I can determine, Doug Brewer is the only member still around who
posted an image to the first PUG, in April 1997:

http://pug.komkon.org/archive/aprarchive.html


The first one of mine I can find is from June 1998

  http://pug.komkon.org/98jun/jun18.htm




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Re: Happy Holidays!

[Jack Davis]

Beautiful message, Paul!
Likewise!!

J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 23, 2016, at 8:56 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Very nice image, and very seasonal as well.
> 
> 
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18325410=lg
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Re: Happy Holidays!

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very nice image, and very seasonal as well.


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Re: Lens test from the 67 days

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Those tests are based upon a 35mm 6mp sensor monochrome astro sensor.
I think they are suspect. How can we know focus was perfect with each
one with no live view? I think the 67 lenses should do a little better
here. They might not be enough for a 36mp sensor, but they should be
resolving more than 6mp on FF. If you extrapolate and enlarge the area
to cover 6x7 that would indicate they are resolving less than 12mp if
you had a 6x7 sensor since 35mm has a 2x crop factor.

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> Just in case you want to put one on your K1.
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 9:50 AM, postmaster  wrote:
> On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
 On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

 The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
 new blood!??

>>> Taking pics with their phones.
>>
>>
>> And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
>> they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.
>>
>> The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.
>
>
> I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement?

Indeed. My worn out geezer-brain misplaced that fact.

(But I just found out I can still use vi to edit /etc/rc.conf so some
of the critical bits are still intact.)

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[ann sanfedele]

Well now I know my plain text filter is working...
ann

On 12/23/2016 10:04 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement 

If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.




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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 12/23/2016 9:50 AM, postmaster wrote:

On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist  
wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up. Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement 


If this comes through then Doug did indeed remove the plain text filter.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement?



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Happy Holidays!

[Paul Stenquist]

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Re: Reminiscing

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>Were they your images, or someone else's?  Were the in the PUG?

Not mine. Yes, PUG.


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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Great image, and quite fitting.


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> On 23 Dec 2016, at 09:01, Steve Cottrell  t...@seeingeye.tv>> wrote:
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> On 22/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:
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Re: Reminiscing

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Were they your images, or someone else's?  Were the in the PUG?


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On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Collin B  wrote:

> I was perusing the old PUG galleries, around the time I joined.
> But there are a couple of pics I can't find to enjoy once more.
> One was a ship coming into a bay.  I think it was a sunset picture.
> The other was an old gentleman walking in a fog.
> Anyone remember these?
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Reminiscing

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I was perusing the old PUG galleries, around the time I joined.
But there are a couple of pics I can't find to enjoy once more.
One was a ship coming into a bay.  I think it was a sunset picture.
The other was an old gentleman walking in a fog. 
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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Ya it took me a while to figure out Apple had the drivers. Me thinks
that was or is part of the probnlem. Downloaded now so we'll see.

Dave

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> Apple supplies the Epson printer drivers. Go to the Apple Store and click the 
> upgrades link. It should automatically check to see if you need them. Make 
> sure also that you have the icc paper profiles and that Lightroom is 
> controlling color. If you're set up to have the printer control color, you 
> won't get good results.
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>> On Dec 23, 2016, at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> Odd. I print on a Mac with two clicks and can almost always nail it with 
>>> one attempt.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>
>> Normaly that has been my case but since the OS upgrade not so much. As
>> i mentioned in an email i discovered i was downloading the scanner
>> drivers not the printer drivers (updated) which i have no done so
>> hopefully that will help. I went through a s*(t load of 5x7 paper for
>> nothing.LOL
>>
>> Dave
>>>
 On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

 At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
 those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
 I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
 printer driver for most of the choices. I also remember now how much I
 hated printing from macs. It was just so much easier on the PC side
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Lens test from the 67 days

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www.narrowbandimaging.com/images/pentax_67_lens_tests.pdf

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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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Apple supplies the Epson printer drivers. Go to the Apple Store and click the 
upgrades link. It should automatically check to see if you need them. Make sure 
also that you have the icc paper profiles and that Lightroom is controlling 
color. If you're set up to have the printer control color, you won't get good 
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> On Dec 23, 2016, at 6:57 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> Odd. I print on a Mac with two clicks and can almost always nail it with one 
>> attempt.
>> 
>> Paul via phone
> 
> Normaly that has been my case but since the OS upgrade not so much. As
> i mentioned in an email i discovered i was downloading the scanner
> drivers not the printer drivers (updated) which i have no done so
> hopefully that will help. I went through a s*(t load of 5x7 paper for
> nothing.LOL
> 
> Dave
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>>> 
>>> At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
>>> those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
>>> I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
>>> printer driver for most of the choices. I also remember now how much I
>>> hated printing from macs. It was just so much easier on the PC side
>>> really.
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Re: PT LR 4.4 and Epson 2400 printing

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On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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> attempt.
>
> Paul via phone

Normaly that has been my case but since the OS upgrade not so much. As
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drivers not the printer drivers (updated) which i have no done so
hopefully that will help. I went through a s*(t load of 5x7 paper for
nothing.LOL

Dave
>
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:15 PM, Zos Xavius  wrote:
>>
>> At the very least you should be able to set custom sizes and select
>> those. Its been an awful long time since I used an epson on a mac but
>> I remember it being very similar to windows since it is using the
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>> hated printing from macs. It was just so much easier on the PC side
>> really.
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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 22/12/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed:

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.

haha brilliantly put, geezer ;-)

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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>The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.

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