Re: PESO Wooden boulders

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Very interesting lichen, well photographed and presented!

Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 2:42 PM Toine  wrote:

> From a distance they looked like white boulders:
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-031-img4458
>
> Closeups of the reindeer moss
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-030-img4451
> https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-026-img4464
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Re: PESO Wooden boulders

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Cool

On January 5, 2021 11:41:43 AM PST, Toine  wrote:
>From a distance they looked like white boulders:
>https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-031-img4458
>
>Closeups of the reindeer moss
>https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-030-img4451
>https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-026-img4464
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PESO Wooden boulders

[Toine]

>From a distance they looked like white boulders:
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-031-img4458

Closeups of the reindeer moss
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-030-img4451
https://www.repiuk.nl/albums/new/#=1=006-026-img4464

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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Bill]

Apparently, facial recognition, among other things is a third party plug-in
that is no longer  licensed.

bill

On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 10:48 a.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:

> This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my
> computer, and it worked.
>
> I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file
> including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application
> support/Adobe/Lightroom
> start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a
> previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that
>
> if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it
> will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash.
>
> At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out
> darktable and dxo
>
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> >
> > I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing
> some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any
> catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling
> things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it
> still won’t even start up without crashing.
> >
> > I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up
> for the switchover.
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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[John]

Same here. Using Bridge, I know where the photos are.

Lightroom's "catalog" didn't want to use the storage organization scheme I'd 
already come up with, while Bridge was fine with doing it my way.


In a pinch, I can find the photo I want without actually having to start 
PHotoshop or Bridge. Irfanview has a plug-in for PEF & DNG files, as does 
FastStone Image Viewer.


I'm still using Photoshop CS6-Extended Edition, the last version that really did 
have a "perpetual license".


On 1/5/2021 07:26:21, Paul Stenquist wrote:

I’ve used Bridge as an image management tool in combination with photoshop  for 
15 years or so. Love it. Lightroom was a non starter for me.

Paul


On Jan 5, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:

I have been staying away from facial recognition so my LR 6 keeps working for 
the moment.
If/when it crashes I think I'll switch to Adobe Bridge as DAM (which is free) 
in combination with Affinity Photo.
I'm using Affinity Photo more and more for adjustments and retouching for which 
Lightroom is not suitable.

Henk

Op 2021-01-05 om 10:43 schreef Larry Colen:

I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some 
facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I 
went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, 
losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up 
without crashing.

I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the 
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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[John]

On 1/5/2021 05:09:21, Larry Colen wrote:




On Jan 5, 2021, at 2:02 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:

Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen:


I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the 
switchover.


I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm
still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output


DAM?



Digital Asset Management - why Lightroom has catalogs.






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Re: I got my head this morning

[Igor PDML-StR]

With PHQ3, you'll be punning 5-ways. ;-)


Larry Colen Sat, 02 Jan 2021 11:49:49 -0800 wrote:

My new Induro PHQ3 head arrived this morning.  I’m very impressed.  It 
feels very solid, but the movement is smooth.



One feature that wasn’t mentioned in the literature are the release 
couplers on the tightening arms so that rather than sticking out, the arms 
can lay flat when storing it.


https://photos.app.goo.gl/u5F3PCg8HPKwttXd8

The reason it was an open box unit might have simply been that a couple of 
the bubble levels didn’t have fluid, I just registered it and sent a note 
to Induro about getting replacement parts.  They were very helpful when I 
needed some replacement parts for my BHD3.


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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Larry Colen]

This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my computer, 
and it worked.

I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file
including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application 
support/Adobe/Lightroom
start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a previous 
version, the warning message is really obtuse about that

if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it will 
start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash.

At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out darktable 
and dxo

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some 
> facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. 
> I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, 
> rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t 
> even start up without crashing.
> 
> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for 
> the switchover.
> 
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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Paul Stenquist]

I’ve used Bridge as an image management tool in combination with photoshop  for 
15 years or so. Love it. Lightroom was a non starter for me.

Paul

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Henk Terhell  wrote:
> 
> I have been staying away from facial recognition so my LR 6 keeps working 
> for the moment.
> If/when it crashes I think I'll switch to Adobe Bridge as DAM (which is free) 
> in combination with Affinity Photo.
> I'm using Affinity Photo more and more for adjustments and retouching for 
> which Lightroom is not suitable.
> 
> Henk
> 
> Op 2021-01-05 om 10:43 schreef Larry Colen:
>> I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some 
>> facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. 
>> I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, 
>> rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t 
>> even start up without crashing.
>> 
>> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for 
>> the switchover.
>> 
>> 
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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Henk Terhell]

I have been staying away from facial recognition so my LR 6 keeps 
working for the moment.
If/when it crashes I think I'll switch to Adobe Bridge as DAM (which is 
free) in combination with Affinity Photo.
I'm using Affinity Photo more and more for adjustments and retouching 
for which Lightroom is not suitable.


Henk

Op 2021-01-05 om 10:43 schreef Larry Colen:

I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some 
facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I 
went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, 
losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up 
without crashing.

I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the 
switchover.


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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

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Am 05.01.21 um 11:09 schrieb Larry Colen:


How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions?


Rather basic. Their main focus is definitely on image quality.

Ralf

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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

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> On 5 Jan 2021, at 10:10, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm
>> 
>> still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output
> 
> DAM?

Digital asset management 

> 
>> quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And
>> that's what counts.
> 
> How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions?

See: DAM


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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Bill]

On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 4:10 a.m. Larry Colen,  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jan 5, 2021, at 2:02 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> >
> > Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen:
> >
> >> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up
> for the switchover.
> >
> > I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm
> > still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output
>
> DAM?
>

That is what Lightroom is designed to do.

Bill



> > quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And
> > that's what counts.
>
> How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions?
>
> >
> > I'm not aware of any facial recognition in DxO. Just not on my radar.
> >
> > If facial recognition and portraiture is one of your main areas you
>
> Facial recognition isn’t a big one. It can be handy for sorting out photos
> of people and/or tagging those photos so I can find the photos of people
> later.
>
> > might want to have a closer look at ON1 Photo RAW. They've been bragging
> > a lot lately about their new functions in this area.
>
> I tried it last year, in large part because it was supposed to be able to
> handle lightroom catalogs.  I put a couple weeks into it and it was not
> ready for prime time.
>
> They may have improved it, but it just didn’t seem to work all that well
> in general.
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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Larry Colen]

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 2:02 AM, Ralf R Radermacher  wrote:
> 
> Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen:
> 
>> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for 
>> the switchover.
> 
> I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm
> still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output

DAM?

> quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And
> that's what counts.

How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions?

> 
> I'm not aware of any facial recognition in DxO. Just not on my radar.
> 
> If facial recognition and portraiture is one of your main areas you

Facial recognition isn’t a big one. It can be handy for sorting out photos of 
people and/or tagging those photos so I can find the photos of people later.

> might want to have a closer look at ON1 Photo RAW. They've been bragging
> a lot lately about their new functions in this area.

I tried it last year, in large part because it was supposed to be able to 
handle lightroom catalogs.  I put a couple weeks into it and it was not ready 
for prime time.

They may have improved it, but it just didn’t seem to work all that well in 
general.  

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Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

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Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen:


I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the 
switchover.


I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm
still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output
quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And
that's what counts.

I'm not aware of any facial recognition in DxO. Just not on my radar.

If facial recognition and portraiture is one of your main areas you
might want to have a closer look at ON1 Photo RAW. They've been bragging
a lot lately about their new functions in this area.

Ralf

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Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo

[Larry Colen]

I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some 
facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I 
went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, 
losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up 
without crashing.

I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the 
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OT Some impressive astro landscapes

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Here are some impressive astro landscapes

https://mymodernmet.com/daniel-kordan-uyuni-salt-flats

Following links to find them in his own gallery
http://danielkordan.com/portfolio-item/altiplano_expedition/


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