Re: MZ-5n vs MZ-6

2003-07-23 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

- Original Message - 
From: Kostas Kavoussanakis snip I am looking forward to hearing people's
 opinions on the viewfinder of the MZ-5n, hoping I will finally tell
 them apart.

I have no experience at all with the L/6 but I do have the 5N here in Sunny
Georgia.
 It's not a great viewfinder if you're taking a lot of pictures outside in
bright light.  You simply must shade the camera with your left hand if you
want to read the information in the display.  This is ok if you have two
hands and one of them is free but it is a little tedious if you're out
shooting the kids all day.
It's also not very bright when compared with my Super Program.
Other than that, I'm VERY pleased with my 5N and think kindly of the PDMLr
in Austrailia who saw fit to sell it to me at a good price :)

Cory Waters



Re: PUG comment reminder

2001-11-28 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Chris,
I'm not in December's PUG.  I know we talked (?) about a standing comment
request but you said to sort through the folks who do want comments and the
ones who don't this month or are not submitting each month would be too
much.  Anyway, I missed the equinox thingie so
Also, I got assigned somebody this month whose submission I couldn't find at
the time (have not looked since but I looked MANY times that day).  I sent
you a note but it may have gotten lost.

Cory Waters


- Original Message -
From: Chris Brogden [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:16 AM
Subject: PUG comment reminder


 Ok, here's the reminder.  We're keeping it nice and simple.  If you want
 your PUG photo commented on, feel free to send me a letter *off-list* at
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] saying Hey, this is insert name here and I
 want to have my photo commented on for this PUG or something like that,
 and it'll be done.  If you send the letter to Bill Robb or the PUG team,
 they'll ignore it, since the PUG gallery is a separate entity.  You could
 send a letter to the PDML asking for comments if you want, though of
 course it's hit and miss whether you'll get any.

 The commenting process is now initiated by the photographer, so if you
 don't want your photo commented on, you don't have to do anything: the
 default is no comments.  You'll have to mail me a request for comments
 each month that you want them, as there could be some months when you
 don't want comments, for whatever reason.

 The commentators are: Bruce Dayton, Frank Theriault, Luis Pinar, Lasse
 Karlsson, Jaume Lahuerta, Gianfranco Irlanda, César Matamoros II, and Cory
 Waters.  If anyone on that list no longer wishes to be a commentator,
 please let me know off-list ASAP.

 Of course, if anyone has any questions about how this is going to work, or
 what this whole commenting thing is about, feel free to email me off-list
 and I'll fill you in.

 Thanks for reading!
 chris
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Re: Calibration project was:The weakest link?

2001-11-28 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

That WOULD be cool.
I'm so often disappointed with images on one screen and then slightly
suppressed when they look better (or worse) elsewhere.
I often wonder what my images look like on other people's screens.
 I KNOW they looked much darker on my screen at work until I got a little
too distracted and talked on the phone too long while holding a large
speaker just inches from the glass :).   Now that monitor gives everything a
cool rainbow effect.  BUT I got a new(er), larger monitor replacement before
lunch that day from the IT guys!  If only I could get them to make house
calls :)

Cory Waters
knows that the things in life that bring the most happiness (I.E. computers,
cars,  women) are also the things that bring the most misery.


Original Message -
From: Paris, Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: RE: The weakest link?


 Now, if we could get together and buy a good monitor calibration package,
we
 could send it around and all get our monitors calibrated.  Probably
wouldn't
 work for all of us, though.  The kind I mean isn't just software but
 includes a colorimeter, too.

 Len
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Re: PUG comment reminder

2001-11-28 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Of all the places there should be a pop-up warning against doing what you
don't intend, this should be among them.
Sorry for the mass post, list.


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Re: PUG News - Intro

2001-11-28 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Thanks for steeping up and taking the job.
Good luck and don't be afraid to ask (not me ,of course :)) for help if you
need it.

Cory Waters


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 4:16 PM
Subject: OT: PUG News - Intro


 *LOL*
 I have been so quiet, because my client refused to post to the PDML so I
 lurked most of the time. But since I took on this task I persuaded it to
 behave...

 I used to have a ME super bought around 1981, it has been a very good
camera
 travelling with me all around the world. But one day it didn't like
 travelling anymore and started to meter all pics one or two stops to low.
 And since I am a person always forgetting these things I decided to give
it
 in good hands (my brothers wife) and there it has a quiet live now.
 For myself I bought a MZ-5 and two zoom lenses 28-70 and 70-210 (bad
girl).
 Over the years and several birthdays and Xmases I accumulated another
MZ-5n,
 some more lenses and a tripot.
 Now I try to remember all the good advice from the PDML (and my boyfriend)
 but stress the try. My pics are most of the time underexposed or the
 lamppost is in the middle of the composition and what else you can think
of.
 But gradually it gets better and some of my efforts can be viewed at
 http://www.kirschten.de

 I wouldn't call me a beginner but a forgetter.
 But don't worry I won't forget the PUG though.

 I work for a software company - testing software, driving my collegues
nuts
 because I tend to forget there as well and produce the errors good
users
 wouldn't find.
 I live in Germany (Munich) with my boyfriend and about 20 computers (all
 his) and lot's of books and slides in a too small appartment.

 Cheers
 Adelheid













 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of tom
 Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2001 23:51
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PUG News


 Hi Adelheid, thanks for taking on this task.

 I don't think I've seen you post here much...how 'bout an intro?

 tv

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Bill did a great job, I have a very well maintained WebSite at my hands
 now.
  I'll have a hard time improving it. ;)
  All the best Bill and take the time to submit to the PUG :)))
  :)
  Adelheid
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Re: ThanksPentaxGiving?

2001-11-25 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Sounds like Thanksgiving to me.  Toss a turkey in there somewhere and you
have it nailed!

Cory Waters
Wishing he was snowed-in in Lake Tahoe :)


- Original Message -
From: Juan J. Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, not heartwarming, but hey.

 Since in Argentina there's no Thanksgiving (it seems like we just killed
the
 indians without taking their food first), the holiday means little for us.
 Also, we don't have any family in the US besides my wife and myself. So,
for
 the second year, we rented the same cabin in South Lake Tahoe with the
same
 two good friends (he's Mexican, she's Spanish, no thanksgiving for them
 either) Spent the weekend playing cards, seeing the snow fall, and
wondering
 how the heck we'll get out of here tomorrow. No turkey either, but I made
 empanadas.

 I shot some frames in the lake with the K1000, new for me. It's a very
nice
 camera, it's good to have the same interface as the MX :-)

 Right now, we just came out of the outdoor jacuzzi we have here. Snow
 everywhere, your body is warm in the water and your head freezes. Oh, we
got
 a few pictures of us there taken with the ZX-5n.

 j


 =
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Re: Re:(nor Robb) Robb

2001-11-23 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Is there a reason why we all need to read this?  Seems like a great
candidate for a move to a private flame war location.

Cory Waters
being meek and waiting for the world


- Original Message -
From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Subject: Re: Digital cameras are FREE


 
 (nor Robb) Robb 
 Mafud

 Hey shit for brains, That is Mr. Robb to you.
 That is how I insist the 6 year olds addrss me, and you now fall
 into the same group.
 Grow up, Sootie Maffie.
 Mr. Robb
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Re: Digital cameras are FREE

2001-11-21 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

- Original Message -
From: Mike Johnston [EMAIL PROTECTED]

SNIP

 And the sun will explode in ten million years, too, so I don't see the
point
 in going to school.

 --Mike



Tried that one on my mother one morning back in High School.  The point in
going to school was illustrated to the back of my head shortly after those
words reached her ears.  I went on to college.

Cory Waters
Northern Michigan University '90-'94
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where to buy film

2001-11-15 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Just a poll:
Where do you buy your film?

Cory Waters
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Re: Miracles happens (was shit happens)

2001-11-13 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

WO H!!
I'd have bet you a dollar that this wouldn't have happened.
BUT
It's YOUR tenacity that got your camera back.  GOOD JOB man!!!
Many others would have let it go.
I'm glad for you
:)

Cory Waters
wondering how long it would take to catalog all the serial numbers of
everything I'd not like to lose.

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 3:39 PM
Subject: Miracles happens (was shit happens)


 Well, dear gang, I'm flying (I'm dreading somebody 'll wake me up).
 Everybody knows that last October 14th, I was stolen, and I lost my second
 LX, with 50mm 1.7 and 100mm Macro.
 I received a great amount of support from this great list (I' ll contact
 two members privately in this regard).
 Here in Buenos Aires, there is a downtown street called Libertad (freedom,
 ironically), that's full of used equipment stores, including stereo,
 video and photo equipment. Everybody knows it's all stolen stuff, but it
 exists (corruption) and will exist forever.
 So, since I was stolen, I keep a copy of the police report in my wallet
 just in case. And since I go downtown almost everyday for work, I try to
 pass by Libertad always I can.
 Well, last week I saw a 100mm Macro in one of this stores cabinet, and a
 cold wave runned thru my body. I knew it was MY 100mm f4. The LX wasnt
 there, just a Spotmatic and some other lenses. I asked if they had more
 Pentax gear, and they said not by now. I said fuck! This guy has my
camera,
 I know, but I can't do nothing (I don't have the serial no. of this lens).
 Yesterday, I went again, and in the same store it was, voila, my dear LX,
 without the strap, but with my custom shaped and painted Grip A and all
the
 use marks. Adrenaline runned thru my body. I didn't entered the store and
 went right to find a policeman. I find him round the corner and explained
 the situation, showing him the copy of the police report. He followed me
to
 the store, and asked for the camera. Thanks to god, the serial number was
 still there, not sanded or scratched (a common resource of this kind of
 guys).
 But imagine my feelings when the policeman says This is not your camera.
 I say What? This IS my camera, I have all the papers. He says but the
 last number is a 5 and your report says it is a 6. Legally this is not
your
 camera. I felt I was going to die, but I was decided to fight to the end.
 I said it was my camera and that the difference was obviously a typo (I
 took the serial number from the webpage David Chernicoff made when he
 selled it to me, and he had written it with a 6) and it was a miraculously
 coincidence the lens number was the same (the guy of the store was stupid
 enough as to leave the original lens on camera, despite having another 50
 1.7 and 50 2 in the cabinet). This IS my camera, and you know it. I want
to
 do all necessary to recover it. The police man said ok I will call
 reinforcement and start the procedure. I said ok.
 While we were waiting, this policeman told me They aren't going to give
 you it. The serial number is not the same. I said THey will, believe
me.
 I was hypernervous.The police car took 45 minutes to arrive. The second
 policeman (far more friendly) entered the store and asked for the camera.
 The store guy told him The serial no. is not the same, and this second
 policeman, thanks to all gods, was more aged, with worst eyesight, and
 told, yes it is, this is a 6. I told him, no it's a 5 but it's obvious
 now that's very easy to misread, and the lens has the same number. He said
 I was right, and asked me to leave the store for a moment to make some
kind
 of arrangement with the guy. 5 minutes later, he calls me and tells me
 the guy has something to say. This m..fu..er tells me Give me the 150
 bucks I paid for it and it's yours I said What? Are you kidding? I
already
 payed for it. It costed me a month of salary, I had to buy it from usa, a
 guy showed me a gun, and now you ask me to pay for something that's
already
 mine? Come on! (I was starting to really upset. The policemen took a
really
 passive, contemplative attitude). He told me Ok, let's share the cost,
 fifty and fifty, I couldn't believe it. I insisted I will not pay a cent,
 I will take him to court. The situation continued this way for about
 another 45 minutes, and finally he accepted he was lost and gave me the
 camera. I finally told him: And please don't tell me I have to pay you,
 you still have my 100 macro. In fact it was thanks to it I discovered you.
 Don't worry I don't have the serial no., so I can't recover it, but please
 don't fuck with me. Bye. He put his best  surprise face, neglecting it. I
 say yes, yes, bye.
 So, after two hours of fighting, I leaved the store with my camera. The
 police asked some more data, a handshake and I went back to work with the
 biggest smile and happiness you can imagine. Back in the office, I
received
 the congrats of all my coworkers, who knew of my 

Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS

2001-11-12 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

so what exactly are you doing to these photos?
do you have IM?

Cory

- Original Message - 
From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS


 Hi Tom,
 
 On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote:
 
  Any comments on this lens?  Good, bad, mediocre?
 
 I bought one a couple of months ago.  I've only used it once, but I was
 pleased with the results.  I've never worked with a fish-eye, though,
 and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my
 fingers and feet in the photos).  It focuses closer than I would have
 imagined.  The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like
 six to eight inches when I was using it.  I'm still doing the
 postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. 
 I'll post you a note when they go up on the web.
 
 TTYL, DougF
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Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS

2001-11-12 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

CRAP! Sorry list.  Didn't mean for the world to get this.

Cory Waters
administering my second dope-slap on this list this week!

- Original Message - 
From: Cory or Brenda Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS


 so what exactly are you doing to these photos?
 do you have IM?
 
 Cory
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Doug Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: ZENITAR-K 2.8/16 FISH-EYE LENS
 
 
  Hi Tom,
  
  On Mon, 12 Nov 2001 13:58:11 -0700, aimcompute wrote:
  
   Any comments on this lens?  Good, bad, mediocre?
  
  I bought one a couple of months ago.  I've only used it once, but I was
  pleased with the results.  I've never worked with a fish-eye, though,
  and my technique leaves something to be desired (kept getting my
  fingers and feet in the photos).  It focuses closer than I would have
  imagined.  The focusing ring claims 0.3m (1') but it seemed more like
  six to eight inches when I was using it.  I'm still doing the
  postprocessing on those photos, but I should have them up before long. 
  I'll post you a note when they go up on the web.
  
  TTYL, DougF
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Re: OT: how to send money from the USA to France?

2001-11-10 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Ed,
With PayPal the money goes into your PayPal account. it won't show up in
your bank account or your credit card either.  I think you can pay yourself
from our paypal account it you try hard enough.

Cory Waters
Ebay novice.


- Original Message -
From: Ed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 8:06 PM
Subject: RE: OT: how to send money from the USA to France?


 Q: When you sell something on ebay and they buyer pays with Billpoint or
 paypal, doesn't that payment go directly into your bank account?  I had
 someone pay Friday night, and it did not show in my back account on
 Saturday.  Is that just because of the weekend, or did the payment go to
 a credit on my credit card instead?

 Thanks,
 Ed
 http://lightandsilver.com

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brendan
  Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 6:06 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: OT: how to send money from the USA to France?
 
 
  Paypal? you both just need a Credit card.
 snip
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Re: PUG Stuff

2001-11-10 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

David, it means you are too late to take the picture. :(
They try to get shots all taken within a two hour window last month.

Don't feel bad, I KNEW about it and forgot to shoot a frame.

Cory Waters



- Original Message - 
From: David Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 7:24 AM
Subject: Re: PUG Stuff


 I'll show my ignorance,what does the theme
 for this month mean??
 
 Dave
  Begin Original Message 
  From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:37:52 -0600
 To: Pentax Discuss [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PUG Stuff
 
 Well, here we are, a mere 10 days away from the next gallery
 cutoff.
 If you have your synchronicity photo ready to go, please submit
 early and save us a few potential problems with server overload
 on the 20th of the month.
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
 
 Thanks
 William Robb
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A Cute Shot

2001-11-09 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Here's a shot of my little girl selling houses in her grandparents
subdivision.
I know she's not looking, YOU try and catch her!:)
Just some levity for Friday (morning here).

http://community.webshots.com/photo/22278201/24884668GjYpKuCVEd

Cory Waters
Bringing his camera downtown today.
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How it SOUNDS

2001-10-29 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I was just taking some shots of my daughter with my A3000.  I hadn't used it
much since I got my MZ-5N and I was struck by how much cooler it sounds than
the newer camera.  There's a definite KA-chunk with the A3000 followed by
the winder.  The winder sounds like it's working a bit to advance the film.
  On the MZ 5N, it's much more sterile.  The mirror/shudder noise is
relatively non-existent and the winder sounds less interesting.  Sounds a
lot more like my Kodak advantix PS than the sound in my head that
represents expensive(good?) cameras.  (Think early 80's pop song by the J.
Giles Band Freeze Frame)
  I don't have a lot of experience with SLR cameras.  The two I have are the
only ones I've messed with for any length of time.  I guess I'll have to buy
a bunch of cameras to evaluate the noises they make so I can report to the
list...:)

Cory Waters
Thinking my wife won't buy that particular reasoning and will counter any
enableing that might flow from other list members. :(
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Good Job

2001-10-23 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I just want to say how much I like Coming... By Edward Kreis in this
month's PUG.
The colors, the light posts, the shore and the sky
REALLY nice shot.

Cory Waters
who did NOT send that binocular question more than once, really

PS I REALLY like this picture.
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RE: multiple RE:Subject: OT Bright nox?

2001-10-22 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

So sorry for the shotgun approach with this message.  MS Lookout had a
hiccup or two :(

Cory Waters
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Fed EX crap? WAS:Re: More UPS Crap

2001-10-20 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Tom Rittenhouse typed unto us:
big context SNIPThe street directory says it is about as far away as it
could be and still be in the Charlotte area. Ah, there it is a little spur
of a road, off of that road, off of a road I know about. Thirty minutes
latter I am there.


Must be nice to live somewhere that this could be true.  Living on the
western outskirts, I can drive much more than an hour (without traffic) and
still be in the Atlanta Metro Area.  To think I once drove 12 miles out of
town (in Michigan) and gave up finding my friend's house.  NOBODY would
live THIS far from town I thought

OH! Pentax content here:
I acquired a SMC F 35-80 4-5.6 this week from an EBAY seller.  We used USPS
to ship and had no problems:)
paid $45USD (including shipping) and it came with both caps, Cir. polarizer,
UV filter, and a Hoya red (25A) filter.  Not too bad I think.

Cory Waters
Off to be IN a wedding this evening..
Happy Shooting
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PUG Assignment?

2001-10-03 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I have lost the email from last month about PUG assignments and I didn't
seem to get one this month, will the coordinator please contact me?

Cory Waters
Having the worst day in a couple months
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Re: the cost of my new camera

2001-09-30 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Chris wrote:
If the negatives are underexposed by a significant amount...
why?  Did you
have the 5n set to spot-meter by mistake?  Were you using the built-in
flash past 10 feet or letting it provide the majority of light for the
exposure?  What could have caused it, do you think?

I'm chalking it up to plane-old inexperience.  I was using a dedicated for
Pentax JCPenny non-TTL flash (Only flash I have).  I hadn't really used that
flash on the 5N yet so I didn't know how it would perform, especially in a
large room or on groups of people.  I had the flash set to auto-mode.  The
setting on the flash calls for F8 when using ISO400 film.  Probably a
combination of the flash reading the room's lighting wrong and the distances
being too high.  I thought that the sync speed might have been too high but
the flash's manual says it was set-up for M series cameras and most of them
sync around 1/100 as well (per Boz's site). Did I mention that pictures
taken with my A3000 and the same flash came out ok, save for the poor
composition?  The A3000 syncs at 1/60.  I also took a couple shots with the
flash on manual mode (with the 5n) that came out OVERexposed due to my not
setting the aperture right.
SO
Learned that with the settings recommended, it'll underexpose with the flash
set to auto.  Probably had enough light output to expose correctly if I
could have figured out the aperture setting needed.

OH well.  Live and learn.  At lease they weren't paying me.

Cory Waters
trying not to think about it anymore.
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MY element picture

2001-09-30 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I took this picture and just couldn't bring myself to submit it to the
October gallery.  I figured it was hokey or someone else would have done it
better.
But since nobody else did:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/22278201/22278696XOHOFvtftQ

Cory Waters
Missed the equinox again.I was two days behind reading digest :(
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RE: Slides vs digital / Archiving?

2001-09-05 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Jostein wrote:
There's no digital medium (or print) with a lifetime
expectancy longer than a negative.

Well I, for one, can lay my hands on CDs I purchased more than ten years ago
in a few seconds whereas, I couldn't find my negatives from that timeframe
in a week.  The CDs work no problem but the negatives will have been sitting
in a shoebox in the attic and some basements for all that time
Assuming that the file formats are still accessible  (not an easy premise to
grant) and that I don't have a fire or anything, care to guess where I'll
find pictures from this summer in ten years time?  This CD ROM right here or
the negatives that I've not even shoeboxed yet, what do you think?

Cory Waters
Atlanta, GA
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My PUG Assignment.

2001-09-03 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I have been fortunate to draw a couple pictures that have received other
comments on the list for my first set of assigned photos.   Here goes
nothin:

The Finish Line -- Lasse Karlsson
I have to admit that on the first pass through the list I didn't notice
that the runners were the only things in color.  Guess my mind disregarded
the obvious difference.  On second look though, it's a striking change-up.
Leaves me wondering how it was done.  I agree with some others that I would
like the shot to include more of the stadium and less of the track in front
of the runners.  I would also like to see a little more space to each side,
though I think you said there were offending items to each side that you
chose to omit.  Love how you were able to capture the runners at various
stages of their finish-line stride.  It's good to get all the runners in a
single shot like that.  I understand you were actually in the run-off area.
It's an extraordinary place to be for that race, those guys seem like they
would be so focused on their race that  they'd run you over in a heartbeat
and get up wondering what happened.  Keep your head up mate.  Looks like
they were all pretty close at the end, who won?

Our Lady Of Three Graces --Jim Brooks
I was struck by the ghostly look of the faces.  The grain is a little
distracting.  I'd like to see a little more definition in the face on the
right, though that might lessen the ghost-effect I like so much.  Why are
the noses glowing?  I find it amazing that this is a photo of statues
outside.  It's something I'd like to see in person.  I would really like to
see the rest of the statues, I'm curious to see how the faces are portrayed
in real-life :)

Alto -- D. Glenn Arthur Jr.
This is an interesting shot.  I know I would have included the whole
instrument, probably to the detriment of the image.  That lavender tint in
combination with the star filter reminds me of the Seventies and ABBA for
some reason.  The watch is distracting.  Three flashes eh?  Some day I may
work that hard and achieve a nice images like this.  Probably not though
Where's the other hand?

Of course, I could be full of it.  I don't really know anything about
pictures anyway :)))

Cory Waters
Atlanta, GA USA
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RE: What is Pentax equipment?

2001-09-01 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Paul M. Provencher wrote:
That's the point isn't it?  Pentax Users Gallery (PUG)
ppro

So Paul,
When I'm out passing film back and forth in my new MZ-5n while my Kalimar
zoom is mounted (you don't think I'd have a Pentax lens if I had some
money?), I'm not a Pentax user but If I mount my Pentax lens I am?
IMO, this makes no sense.  If you are using anything Pentax, you are a
Pentax user.
Perhaps I should subscribe to the Pentax Bodied But Sometimes Other
Manufacturer's Lenses Mailing list

The rule works for me in it's currently posted form:
9. Submissions must have been made using Pentax PS, Digital, 6x7, 645,
K-Mount or M-42 screw mount camera equipment. Third party equipment is
welcome if it is Pentax compatible, and either the body or lens is
Asahi/Pentax

Cory Waters
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Re: One Sentence

2001-08-27 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I may want to see the people and things around me today, tomorrow.

Cory Waters
Atlanta, GA USA
AIM = seebwaters


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Re: picking black and white print film

2001-08-26 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

I have used Tri-X with good results.  I do NOT like the kind-of BW films
(Kodak) that can be processed with normal color processing.  They have a
tint that I find yucky.

So, if you can have the developing works for about $60, how about some
recommendations from the list on what tanks, reels, chemicals, etc. to buy
as a beginner?
 It's such a pain to get BW developed 'round here.

I found some interesting information on developing BW film here:
http://www.photogs.com/bwworld/bwresources.html

Cory Waters
Atlanta, GA USA
liking his new MZ5-n a LOT :)


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Re: new camera

2001-08-26 Thread Cory or Brenda Waters

Interesting how this thread has progressed

I have years time and effort invested in Wife V1.7 (1.7 = 7 annual upgrades
of version 1.0).   I acquired her as a version of Girlfriend long time ago.
I've even had a little (VERY little) success over the years adapting the
application for my specific needs and acquiring the plug-ins Child 1.3 and
2.1.5.  Both these applications are very problematic and requiring a LOT of
time to customize with varying results that may not be fully realized for
many years.  Not to mention a significant financial investment and a host of
specialized technicians and caregivers.
The thought of upgrading or switching platforms at this time is very scary.
Especially since I have a good working relationship with the software
providers (in-laws inc.).

Cory Waters
Atlanta, GA USA
This was meant for Friday but didn't get done till now because of a
particularly nasty virus I acquired called Work


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