FS: Flawed ZX50
Maybe it is worthless, but if so I am sure someone will say so. ZX-50 body, looks new but overlaps frames. Any offers? Lewis _ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the best route! http://local.live.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Zone Alarm (Now OT)
Wow! Asking the local ACLU to define 'eternal vigilance' can really light a fire . Lewis From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Zone Alarm (Now OT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:47:20 -0400 Okay, so what happens next is that everyone who doesn't live in America will chime in how evil America is, and some people who do live in America will jump in and agree, while some people who live in America will insist it isn't so, and so what? and then Bob will wake up and throw in some general xenophobia, and Bill Robb might insult someone, and then someone will threaten to leave the list, and some lurker will write me a nasty email saying he will stop sponging info from the contributors if I don't get control, and then someone will suggest that it would all be better if we all jumped to a google/ yahoo/smartgroups/webforum format, and some other people will tell them to kiss off, and then it will go downhill from there. So that's the next week on this thread, the Reader's Digest Condensed version, without the profanity. Can we just skip it now? On May 17, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Lewis Matthew wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/16/2006 6:11:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everyone complained when nothing was done. You can't have it both ways. === Well, I would prefer they screen immigrants and airport passengers. I never agreed to screening Americans' phone calls or email. In other words, I have thought government reactions ever since 9/11 have been excessive and really do not agree with them. I'd rather live with the risk of terror than lose civil liberties. I have always felt that way. Just as I live daily with the risk of being killed on the highway. Safety can be brought at too high a price. Especially since the feeling of safety tends to be an illusion anyway. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Marnie aka Doe Ok - so define " eternal vigilance" Lewis. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http:// search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: Zone Alarm (Now OT)
Wow! Asking the local ACLU to define 'eternal vigilance' can really light a fire . Lewis From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Zone Alarm (Now OT) Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 16:47:20 -0400 Okay, so what happens next is that everyone who doesn't live in America will chime in how evil America is, and some people who do live in America will jump in and agree, while some people who live in America will insist it isn't so, and so what? and then Bob will wake up and throw in some general xenophobia, and Bill Robb might insult someone, and then someone will threaten to leave the list, and some lurker will write me a nasty email saying he will stop sponging info from the contributors if I don't get control, and then someone will suggest that it would all be better if we all jumped to a google/ yahoo/smartgroups/webforum format, and some other people will tell them to kiss off, and then it will go downhill from there. So that's the next week on this thread, the Reader's Digest Condensed version, without the profanity. Can we just skip it now? On May 17, 2006, at 3:38 PM, Lewis Matthew wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/16/2006 6:11:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everyone complained when nothing was done. You can't have it both ways. === Well, I would prefer they screen immigrants and airport passengers. I never agreed to screening Americans' phone calls or email. In other words, I have thought government reactions ever since 9/11 have been excessive and really do not agree with them. I'd rather live with the risk of terror than lose civil liberties. I have always felt that way. Just as I live daily with the risk of being killed on the highway. Safety can be brought at too high a price. Especially since the feeling of safety tends to be an illusion anyway. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Marnie aka Doe Ok - so define " eternal vigilance" Lewis. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http:// search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: Zone Alarm (Now OT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/16/2006 6:11:58 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everyone complained when nothing was done. You can't have it both ways. === Well, I would prefer they screen immigrants and airport passengers. I never agreed to screening Americans' phone calls or email. In other words, I have thought government reactions ever since 9/11 have been excessive and really do not agree with them. I'd rather live with the risk of terror than lose civil liberties. I have always felt that way. Just as I live daily with the risk of being killed on the highway. Safety can be brought at too high a price. Especially since the feeling of safety tends to be an illusion anyway. The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. Marnie aka Doe Ok - so define " eternal vigilance" Lewis. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: Reference for vintage camera values
The edition pictured in the ad is the 2000-2001 edition. There is a 2006-2006 edition. Lewis From: Stephen Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT: Reference for vintage camera values Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:37:34 -0400 Yep, that rings a bell. Thanks much! Stephen Derby Chang wrote: McKeown's? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0931838339/103-8438863-2441428?v=glance&n=283155 http://tinyurl.com/gg5z3 _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: Religion, Christ vs. the Other Guy
From: "E.R.N. Reed" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> . So, who's "intolerant"? I am. I am intolerant of photo lab operators who fancy themselves as Minister of Interpretation of the history of the world. I am intolerant of half-educated fools (Mishka comes to mind). I am intolerant of those who wrap entire populations into the same cloth for the purpose of condemning them. I am intolerant of the imagined political and historic expertise claimed by a collection of photographers. That said, I am intolerant of the PDML, a cancer which will be removed from my computer in a few moments. Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy
The points you make are easy enough to understand and tolerate. Respect is often another question since you too often lump all parties (in this case Christians and Muslims) into a single set of attitudes. Lewis From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 18:45:06 -0500 by the way, that's exactly what i tried to do. i'm glad my point got across. best, mishka On 2/16/06, Lewis Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Congratulations on presenting the most narrow and least educated view of > religion that I have seen in years. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And where exactly is "CENTER"? That would be sitting with a fence picket up your arse. William Robb Damn! After 71 years, you define my problem with a single sentence :-) Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy
From: Mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> religion is *not* a set of ideas. and no choice whatsoever. religion is teachings of god. big difference, since there is (obviously) only one true god. and if you betray your faith, you are guaranteed an eternal punishment, such that blowing your brains off instead of giving up your beliefs is a pretty good deal. that's why (abrahamic) religions are fundamentally evil. best, mishka Congratulations on presenting the most narrow and least educated view of religion that I have seen in years. Lewis, whose religious commitment is casual at best. _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: Religoon, Christ vs. the Other Guy
From: Collin R Brendemuehl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The point I was making had to do with the broader systems -- that the appearance of organized intolerance by the various groups is not limited to religion but also to the secular (religion-free) world. You were speaking of individuals, not of a system. We were talking about 2 different things. A follow-up discussion would be to evaluate the various belief systems to ferret out "truth". Collin Collin - your attempt to apply reason and logic is admirable, but it is doomed to failure as reason and logic nearly always are in OT discussions. Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
RE: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
>> Where else was Christian, before the Reformation? The question is did HCB have a Minolta CLE before the Reformation and did he take a picture of the 95 Theses? Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought the Orthodox church broke away durung the reformation. Will have to check my history Anyway, it's a good novella. Just wish I could remember the title. m If you mean the Eastern Orthedox Cuurch, it broke with the Roman Church long before the Reformation. Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> There's a reason that the Pope or his representative (as the case may be, depending on the power of the monarch) crowned the kings of the West... cheers, frank ...an act of convenience for both which began with the crowning of Charlemagne as Holy Roman Emperor and gradually became pointless. BTW, Charlemagne's mother was privately known as Bertha the Big Footed. For reasoanbly accurate entertainment, dig up an old dirty out of print copy of Will Cuppy's The Decline and Fall of Practically everybody. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
From: Adam Maas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bob W wrote: Italy? Which is the only part of the world the Church ever ruled. The church was generally an adjunct to the state elsewhere. It certainly was not. Read your history! Bob I have. On most issues the Church was subservient to the King of France, the Holy Roman Emperor or the King of Spain (Explicitly so in Spain). That's not to say that the Second Estate wasn't extremely influential, but it certainly did not _RULE_ (Cardinal Richilieu aside). In Spain, after the Reconquista, the Church was viewed as an arm of the state and very explicitly so. The reason it seems different was the common practice of giving nobles who wouldn't inherit titles a religious title, while they went on to actually serve their king. Richilieu for example was primarily a French ruler, not a case of the Church running France. He very clearly put France ahead of the church as a whole. -Adam For nearly all practical purposes Cardinal Richelieu did rule France, but he was not the ruler by title. He was Louis XIII's Chief Minister (Minister of State).As you say, he did put France ahead of the church. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I tend to speak from passion rather than having all the dry facts assembled, No need to explain. Your screen name covers it . Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: HCB with a Minolta CLE
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catholic bashing is not only appropriate, it's a favorite diversion of "open-minded" liberals. Funny how that works. Paul Bashing is the avocation of open minded liberals :-) Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: Sad decline of PDML /WAS Re: GFM
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I figure the British are really uptight about sex and/or have very strict gender roles. Or both. Probably due to all those public schools. Or something like that. Marnie aka Doe ;-) If my observations during several lengthy stays in London are accurate, you are wrong. Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Bloomburg on Pentax financial woes
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't know about the Toyotas, but my Nissan is California designed, and USA built. William Robb The Toyota Tundra is built in Princeton, Indiana. California (US Market Planning Center) had input, but I don't know how much. Ed _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: Recent thread on 85's and 77's
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The main difference being the Nikon F2 debuted in around 1969. William Robb Not that it makes any difference, but according to Lea's register, the F2 was introduced in 1971. Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: OT Kodak unveils new logo
My reaction was somewhat different. I read the paragraph you quoted and thought "B**t". :-) I sent the quote to my son (a Toyota USA Market Planning Administrator), and he answered "B**t". :-) Lewis My reaction was the same ... Shel > [Original Message] > From: frank theriault > http://rochesterdandc.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060106/NEWS01/6010600 1 > "The new mark, based on a customized typeface, is designed to give the > company a contemporary look but be flexible enough to apply in new > ways and new venues across Kodak's varied businesses --everything from > tiny handheld digital cameras to computer software to the letters on > Kodak buildings around the world." > > Huh? Are they looking at the same "new corporate logo" that I am? > Does it say something that the old one doesn't? > > I don't know much about the marketing and advertising biz, so I'm > obviously ignorant, and don't know much about these things... _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
RE: AF280T Flash Question
From: "Don Sanderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: RE: AF280T Flash Question Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:05:35 -0600 3 things I can think of: 1.) You had a bad battery in the first set, it shorted internally when it got warm and continued to discharge. 2.) The capacitor in the flash shorted internally when it got warm and wouldn't charge. When allowed to cool it started acting normalally again. 3.) The flash trigger circuit in the PZ isn't going 'open' fully. (Unlikely) My guess would be #1, set the flash to manual/full mode and fire it by hand 10-20 times. This will both test and 'form' (condition) the capacitor. If this is OK then repeat using the K2 to fire it. Try it on the PZ again, if it fails it is most likely a fault in the PZ trigger circuit. The 280 is compatible with any Pentax 35 SLR made and should work fine on any of them. Within camera limitations of course. Don > -Original Message- > From: Lewis Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 6:44 AM > To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net > Subject: AF280T Flash Question > > > AF280T Flash problem/question: > I used it with near new batteries; it performed normally for a > dozen or so > shots. Then it recycled very slowly followed by heating up and > not recycling > at all. I removed the batteries and put it away. The next day, I > loaded new > batteries and it recycled as normal when used on my K2. I am > concerned about > using it on the PZ-1 due to the described situation. Thanks in > advance for > any words of wisdom. > > Lewis Thanks, Don. I will follow your directions for #1. The Pz1 is okay with my AF400FTZ, so it isn't likely to be the PZ trigger circuit. Best, Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
AF280T Flash Question
AF280T Flash problem/question: I used it with near new batteries; it performed normally for a dozen or so shots. Then it recycled very slowly followed by heating up and not recycling at all. I removed the batteries and put it away. The next day, I loaded new batteries and it recycled as normal when used on my K2. I am concerned about using it on the PZ-1 due to the described situation. Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
New (?) Fuji Color Print Film
http://www.calumetphoto.com/pr.jsp?p=si&pi=1163&t=e350&US=1 Regards, Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: The Photographer's Rights
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 8/22/2005 4:02:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No one has launched a war because they wanted to. To state such nonsense is to assume that the one launching the war has dictatorial power. To assume that the President of the US, Prime Minister of Briton, Prime Minister of Australia have such powers. To assert that they have dictatorial power would betray great ignorance. = Spin doctors. Later, Marnie aka Doe "Spin Doctors" meaning which - Bob's statement, or the assuming of dictatorial powers? Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: The Photographer's Rights
From: Kevin Waterson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I see no further way forward for educational purposes, How does this represent any change from your earlier interpretations? Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: The Photographer's Rights
No, Shel, we weren't leaderless. Neither was there a President of the United States. Rather, there was a President of the Congress of the Confederation which operated under the Articles of Confederation. Lewis From: "Shel Belinkoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Bob ... Nope, it's not a trick question. Think about this for a moment: The country was officially formed on March 1, 1781 with the adoption of The Articles of Confederation. Washington was inaugurated in April of 1789. We were not leaderless during those years before Washington became president. Shel > [Original Message] > From: Bob W > Well, this sounds like some sort of trick question, but I'll go for it. The > White House website tells me it was George Washington, as I suspected. > > Speaking of which, who was the first president of the US? _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: The Photographer's Rights
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Funny thing is he probably did more good than any president in US history, but the only thing he is remembered for is Watergate. === Personally, I can think of quite a few presidents who did more for this country. But that is not to say Nixon didn't have his accomplishments. But did they do more good? Nixon got you out of Vietnam and Southeast Asia, signed treaties with Russia to limit WMD proliferation in both the USA and the USSR, began a dialogue with the Chinese and helped negotiate military disengagement between Israil, Syria and Egypt. Most of the recent US presidents have been hell bent on starting wars, Nixon seems to have been commited to ending them. William Robb You are probably right. Note, however, that being right about Nixon is an unpopular expression. Lewis, who spent his other life in the history field. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: The Photographer's Rights
From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would willingly bet all my Pentax gear that the group that has caused you most problems has been white middle aged males. In my field of work you would be dead wrong. You can keep your Pentax gear, however :-) Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: The Photographer's Rights
From: Steve Jolly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lewis Matthew wrote: Is your objection to guns or to volatile/politica/controversial subjects? If the group moves entirely away from controversy, there won't be much here - not even about photography. Guns are very much off-topic and an inflammatory subject besides, given the extremely wide range of political views represented on this list. If there have to be flame wars here, please let them be about photography. If there's sufficient interest, there's nothing stopping someone from setting up a separate Gun-Toting-Pentax-Users Mailing List... S Understood and agreed. Note that I have not mentioned firearms on the PDML until my question as quoted above. I do, however, think my question rmains legitimate. Guns are not the only inflammatory subject pursued on PDML, neither are they the only inflammatory subject. To paraphrase William Robb, we have remained quite civil in our exchanges this time around. Possibly subject line changing when the topic drifts would help those sensitive to a particular subject. We both know that OT messages will continue - perhaps on occasion by people named Steve or Lewis :-)) Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: The Photographer's Rights
OK guys, do me a favour please - stop talking guns here. Frantisek Is your objection to guns or to volatile/politica/controversial subjects? If the group moves entirely away from controversy, there won't be much here - not even about photography. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: The Photographer's Rights
Gautam Sarup wrote: Libertarian. Unfortunately they come with their own kooks: Indeed. You should also note that both Liberals and Conservatives also have their own kooks - perhaps more than their share. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: The Photographer's Rights
> > I have concluded that all governments want to be > > totalitarian, and are always working towards that > > end. They use whatever tools they have at their > > disposal to restrict rights and freedoms, and to > > generally inflict their will on the people [...] > ...and in the case of elected governments, what does this say about the voters and non-voters who put those who govern into power? Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: The Photographer's Rights
From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I also tend to be on my best behaviour in foreign countries. William Robb Bravo! Too many people aren't. Two of our closest friends fail miserably in this respect; as a result we no longer travel with them. Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Was Winder ME, anyone? Now bookstores.
Maybe, but more likely not. Most places now, the only book shops are large chains such as Chapters or B&N. The small players are already forced out. We've already witnessed it happen with camera stores, it'll happen soon enough with bookstores. William Robb I think you are right. However, I must admit that I enjoy my hours spent in the big bookstores like Borders. Here in Indianapolis, the Half Price Books chain also does rather well, but it lacks the amenities found at Borders or B&N. Both the aforementioned have caused our local libraries to become more user friendly - a needed change. Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: How-to separate 2 stuck filters
Put on a pair of rubber gloves (dishwashing latex gloves will work). Sandwich the two filters in the palms of your hands and twist them apart. William Robb Thanks, Bill. You solved my problem. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: Photo Vest
I have a Domke, but it's not really a great photo vest, as it is shy on pocket dividers. I'll likely be in the market for a replacement at some point, so I will be reading this thread with interest. William Robb I have an old Banana Republic "Photojournalist's Vest" and an Eddie Bauer near copy. Both have plenty of pockets/dividers - perhaps to the geek level. Lewis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: ist-DS "secrets" in Pop Photo
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I do, however, subscribe to two of the best (IMO) photographic periodicals on the planet: National Geographic and Foto8. Thanks for the heads up on Foto8. I do subscribe to National Geographic and Nature's Best. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: The Mighty K2
--- Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No, not the mountain, the Pentax ;-)) > > It might be nice to get a K2. Does anyone have > experience using one, > especially a K2-DMD. Problems to look for? > Idiosyncrasies? > > Shel I have a pair of K2s; each has two idiosyncracies in common. Both have difficult to turn ISO rings. The other idiosyncracy is me. Otherwise, they are remarkably fine cameras. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: "Why Bumblebees Can't Fly"
Laughs here, too. Lewis From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That's pretty funny, Shel. Made me laugh. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Frankly, Scarlet, I don't give a rat's patoot. It's been well documented that true B&W is the only valid contemporary method of photographic expression. In time automated cell phones shall take over the world and photography shall be little more than a dial tone in history. Color film is the work of the Devil. Shel _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: "Why Bumblebees Can't Fly"
From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Offered to the PDML as basis for another discussion: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/essays/clumps.shtml Godfrey Perhaps interesting, but I'm sorry Godfrey. I just can't bring myself to give a damn which is sharper. I still print Ilfochrome and monochrome images from film capture. Grins, Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: What is snapshot? (seriously)
From: Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So what is a snap shot anyway ... Let us be constructive, ladies and gentlemen. I realize this can grow to a long thread and I want it to be peaceful... It is likely that any definition offered will be both arguable and argued. Considering the way the term is often used, perhaps a snapshot is an image made with neither significant thought nor previsualization. Note that I said "perhaps". Offered peacefully, Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
FS Friday - Lens Hoods & Filters
If interested, please contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> off list. All plus shipping. Three or more, discount 20%. Lens Hoods - AOC Takumar 58mm for 135 & 200- $5 - Super Takumar 49mm for 35mm- $3 - Minolta MD 49mm for 28- $3 - Nikon Nh-1 for 28- $3 72mm filters - Generic Haze- $2 - Rokunar UV- $2 Hoya 67mm UV- $3 58mm filters - Vivitar Linear Polarizing Unused in Box - $7 - Tiffen ND 0.9- $3 -Hoya NDx4- $3 - Vivitar UV Haze- $2 - Hoya Linear Polarizer- $5 - Pro F-TB- $3 - Generic UV- $2 52 mm Filters - Vivitar Linerar Polarizing - $5 - Vivitar ND-6-4x- $3 - Vivitar 1A- $2 - Vivitar UV-Haze - $2 - Pro UV- $2 - Tiffen Linear Polarizing- $3 49mm Filters - Vivitar Linear Polarizing - 2 of these, both new in box - $6 each. -Toyo Linear Polarizing- $5 - Tokina Linear Polarizing- $5 - Pentax Skylight - 2 of these- $3 each. - Vivitar VMC UV-Haze - $2 - Tiffen FL-D - $2 - PRO FL-B- $2 - Vivitar 80B - $2 - Tiffen Haze 1 - $2 And free if you reimburse the shipping - a batch of series 5,6, and 7 filters for older cameras. Thanks for reading. Lewis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
RE: contest question for club members
I will send you our club competition rules off list by attachment.They seem to work well. the e-mail will come from [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lewis From: "Tom Reese" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: contest question for club members Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 09:02:42 -0400 We had a recent interclub competition with two other clubs and there were some issues with rules. I'd be interested in how other clubs set up their rules for contests. My questions: what categories do you use? (nature? wildlife? botany? scenic? etc) do you have rules for whether a picture qualifies for a category? for example: do you have rules about wildflowers vs. cultivated flowers? how much of the frame an animal has to occupy to qualify as wildlife? I'll politely ignore all the "contests suck" and "camera clubs suck" replies. I think it's a lot of fun to see others people work and to see how my stuff measures up to theirs. Yes judges are fickle and sometimes their decisions leave me scratching my head but I still enjoy it. Tom Reese _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: Features I use and unsubscribing
From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I am sorry that so many folks here take a general post to 600 and read as direct critism of themselves. But since that seem to be the way it is I will say no more on the subject. In fact I think I will unsubscribe for a while. graywolf I got bent out of shape and unsubscribed for a while. Guess what? The damned list went on without me and never missed a beat. Grins, Lewis _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Pentax Profits Fall 42%
From: Pål Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The only Pentax slr I've owned that I never liked was the Z-1p. Pål Why did you like the others and not the Z-1p? Like those you mentioned, it did what it was suopposed to do, and considering flexibility, often did it better. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: B/W Film Advice Needed
I prefer either Ilford Delta 100 or Kodak TMax 100 to Plus X. Lewis Any High Speed film will be grainy, and 400 is a high speed film. I'd use the slowest speed film I could find. That's likely to Plus X Pan, I'd recommend Ilfords Pan F but I've found Plus X to have a nicer grain structure. Joseph Tainter wrote: I need to photograph, in black-and-white, some landscapes in southeast Utah with prehistoric ruins in them. The vegetation will be mainly sage (very pale green) and junipers (darker green). The last time I shot b/w was about 5 years ago. I believe it was Tmax 400, and I found it disappointing. It was grainy, and I had thought that these films were supposed to have less grain. I've never tried the chromogenic b/w films. So what do b/w shooters recommend for a low-grain landscape film with good tonal range? I plan to use a yellow filter as a compromise, to lighten the vegetation just a bit and darken the sky just a bit. If I need to I'll use a split nd filter to darken the sky further. Other filter recommendations welcome. Thanks, Joe -- When you're worried or in doubt,Run in circles, (scream and shout). _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Major Tactical Error
And a whine: the flash they first damaged knocking it off the camera and then took with them, was my last still-properly-working flash. Admittedly rather a lot of pain, but the anger is still larger than the pain. And will probably last longer. -- Glenn Maybe I can help with the flash pain. I offered a Vivitar 2800 flash on FS Friday and got no offers. Send me your address and it is yours. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: Fuji have gone mad
I have failed to post this for quite a while: I was watching the Confederations Cup (football, for those who don't know) and was amazed to see huge ads on the pitch for FujiFilm. I thought it was dead! Kostas (even I have been shooting Konica over the past couple of months) Visit their website. Fuji Film is not dead - not even close. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
FS Friday
-Honeywell Pentax Bellows II with 100/4 Bellows Takumar Lens. Lens and metal pristine. Bellows near pristine. Best offer over $100. -20 Cokin filters w/holder and 49mm adapter - e-mail off list for filter descriptions. Prefer to sell all 20 as group. Best offer. -Gossen Pilot 2 Exposure meter in case. Pristine. $10 -Soligor OM-1TC Auto Winder. Shows wear. $10 -Vivitar 2x macro focusing teleconverter for OM-1. $20 -2 Pentax Xtra-Flash slaves. They use 1 AA. $5 each. -2 Vivitar SL2 Slave units. $5 for both. -3 Wein PN3 "Peanut" Save triggers. $5 -Vivitar 2800 Autoflash (4AA) w/filters & PC. $8 -Vivitar 102 Flash (4AA) w/PC. $5 -Argus 102 Flash (4AA) w/PC -"Wink Light" Flash units - Osram (1AAA), Kalimar(1AA), Focal (2AAA), Sears (1AA). $5 for all four -2 generic "L" flash brackets. $5 for both. -2 2x and 2 3x Vivital Teleconverters for M42. $5 each. -A pile of #5, #6, and #7 series filters. e-mail off list for descriptions. Make offer - don't make it too high :-) -49, 52, and 55mm filters. e-mail off list for description. $2 to $5 each. For PDML list members, I will ship upon your request. Add shipping to price and send payment after you receive the item(s). Lewis Matthew ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]) _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
RE: OT: London Horror
My wife and I send our sympathy to all Londoners. As a personal note, we have visited London eleven times during our travels of the past thirty years. It has become our favorite city anywhere - a haven of historical interest and present day enjoyment, both photographic and cultural. You hurt, we hurt. I must disagree with Cotty. The attacks do not pale beside 9/11. The deaths may be fewer, but the horror is the same. Lewis Matthew Indianapolis, Indiana, USA _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: another survey
From: mike wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Most soybean is grown to feed cattle. Unnecessary. With all due respect, nonsense. You need to look into the many uses of soybveans. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: another survey
Mike Wilson asked: And if the "combine" destroys the ground, who survives in the long term? Or are you really so cantankerous that you don't care any more? There isn't any evidence that our harvester "destroys the ground". However, if you want to reduce our footprint, you can plant and harvest the soybean crop by hand. Of course, we will need to pay you in soybeans which you will be unable to process without increasing your own footprint. Grins, Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: another survey
I did a fake surevey, just to see what I would have to do to get my consumption down to one planet's worth. I can no longer drive a motor vehicle at all, must use public transit less than 50km per week, not ever fly anywhere, eat only locally grown food (bye bye fruit, hello rickets) and rebuild my house, making it smaller than 50 sq meters, and green approved, and then have 3 others living with me. Not a friggin hope in hell of that happenning. William Robb Same here. A bit more figuring indicated we should take the family farm out of production. Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: OT: another survey
From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Or it could be said we are supporting them. The 20% who live in the higher econonic regions produce 80% of the world food and other goods. A person who lives in a grass shack may not be using a lot, but he isn't producing much either. Yes we could go back to that kind of a world, if you want to be one of the 90% of the people who have to kill themselves so the other 10% can survive off the land. Let's get rid of all those oil guzzling combines and go back to scratching the earth with a stick. The combine feeds 100,000 people, the guy with the stick can hardly feed himself. There is one problem with your theseis - you are thinking :-) You're not supposed to think on Earth Day. You are supposed to plant a tree followed by covering yourself with sackcloth and ashes. My "score" could be better. I wonder how the writer(s) of the quiz scored Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
I was thinking about this little "survey" earlier, and how few of the replies indicated that the digital cameras were their favorites. I've not counted replies and made any effort to organize or tally the results, but, just from reading, it seems, even amongst digital users, one or another of the older, film based (and most often manual) cameras are the favored ones. Shel Maybe the age/photography roots factor is an answer. My first SLR brought my first "real success" in moving beyond snapshots and making the pictures I wanted. It was a Pentax SL - all manual. After a couple of Spotmatics, I spent a chunk on a pair of K2s - no more screw mount and aperture-preferred automation as a bonus - but it retained that all-metal feel. They have stayed with me, as has the MX. Others came and went. For what I think I need, the PZ1p's have been my best picture takers in recent years because of the (almost overkill) flexibility. I suppose the K2 became a much appreciated bridge - less mechanical effort, thus a bit quicker to use but the roots remained. Lewis _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
te: > >Shel Belinkoff, asked: > > > >>So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or > >>use very much. > > Cotty answered: > >But I will be buried with the MX ;-) > > For me it is a tossup. Bury me with my MX, bury me with my K2, bury me with > both. John Francis complained: Bloody collectors ... You'e right! Show up at my funeral and you can have one of them . Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or use very much. 6x7. William Robb I might have listed the 6x7 instead of the MX and K2, but the 6x7 has a limiting factor. At my age, anything more than 100 yrads from the car isn't photogenic when I carry the 6x7. Lewis _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: Your Favorite Pentax Camera
Shel Belinkoff, asked: >So, what's your favorite Pentax - even if it's one that you don't use or >use very much. Cotty answered: But I will be buried with the MX ;-) For me it is a tossup. Bury me with my MX, bury me with my K2, bury me with both. Lewis _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: How to make Good Pictures (Let's Free the Captured Images)
No one believes your pictures anyway, we are prepared for advertisements to be optimized to the point of being outright lies. We are not prepared for it in every picture we see. William Robb We? Lewis _ Don?t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: Professional Courtesy
So without knowing the exact situation we can not make a valid decision on whether she was just being a shit or acting properly. Graywolf A little bit of both. I've been on both sides of that one. My reaction is to help the other guy out, especially if it will cost me nothing to do so, and will build up some good will in the process. It's the way the community that I grew up in operates, and to a great extent, still does. I suppose it comes from being in a small market, where you really need to have a network of people to get things done sometimes. William Robb I would have smiled and said "plug in and fire away". Inside me I would have been a shit and thought "I will furnish the lights and you can undercut my price". Lewis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
RE: Pentax Camera Illegal on US Airlines
FWIW, McKeown's Guide says the lighter reatiled for about $35 in 1983. Lewis From: "Tom C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Pentax Camera Illegal on US Airlines Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2005 19:15:28 -0600 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3353&item=7510904090&rd=1 Tom C. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
RE: carrying cameras in London
From: "Amita Guha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Subject: carrying cameras in London Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2005 12:13:03 -0500 Now that I'm in the planning stages of this...will I make a tasty target for muggers if I carry around my Lowepro Offroad (fits 1 body/2 lenses plus external pouches)? I've been hearing about muggings at gunpoint and such over there. Nate's carrying his Adorama Slinger. My wife and I go to London every other year, most recent was May 2004. Neither of us has ever been near what seemed to be a potential danger. Both of us carry cameras and a small accessory bag. I regard London as safer for "out of towners" than our American metros. As an aside, I am an avid believer in the quote from Samuel Johnson (I think these are his words); "When you are tired of London, you are tired of life". Lewis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: Hi folks...
The Zuiko in your reference was likely made for the Olympus FTL (introduced 1971) which utilized the 42mm Praktica/Pentax thread mount. The earlier Olympus Pen series utilized a proprietary Olympus bayonet. According to my references the FTL was the only Olympus SLR to use the 42mm thread mount. Ed From: Graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: Hi folks... Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:56:09 -0500 Prior to the OM series cameras Olympus made m42 mount cameras. graywolf http://www.graywolfphoto.com "Idiot Proof" <==> "Expert Proof" --- Luigi de Guzman wrote: On Wednesday 05 January 2005 11:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yup. It pops right on, no problem at all. It is a Olympus E-Zuiko Auto-T 1:3.5 lens to be specific. I'm told this is a 135MM lens? The specs on these are different than on my digital and I am not used to them as yet. It's got the exact same mount as the Ricoh TLS. from what I can tell. "pops right on"? how do you mean? All the olympus lenses I've ever handled were OM bayonet mount. The Spotmatic is a SCREW mount camera--you thread the lenses in. A quick bit of googling has revealed no reference, anywhere, to M42 Olympus lenses. weird! -Luigi -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.7 - Release Date: 12/30/2004 _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: OT: Yankee elections
From: Caveman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: OT: Yankee elections CNN has mapped the rednecks: Perhaps next CNN will map the anal orifice who calls himself caveman. Goodbye list. Self-assigned expertise from half-educated dolts is available all over the internet. Ed _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
RE: B&W developers and Tri-x ??
I need more film developer,not enough of the Tmax to do two rolls, and i thought i might give D76 a try this time. I also would like to pick up a few rolls of Tri-x and see how they perform. Does D 76 do a good job on Tri-x AND T-max or should i get one of each and be selective. D-76 is regarded by many as the standard for developing Tri-X. It is fine for TMax. Also the Kodak site shows Tri-x is iso 320 and 400. 320 and 400 are and have been the only factory speeds available for Tr-X. Ed _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected
Perhaps they didn't raise an eyebrow because they were pleasantly presented - a tactic which you have yet to master. Lewis From: Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Then what about all the OTHER OT NON PENTAX THREADS? Lets see, there was the Tan is leaving thread (very touching by the way), the Cotys fridge contents thread (usual drivel from Coty), and the unforgetable OT: Loo with a view. Non of which raised an eybrow. Antonio On 6 Jul 2004, at 22:53, alex wetmore wrote: Becuase it has nothing to do with pentax cameras and this is not the operating system religous war discussion list. alex On Tue, 6 Jul 2004, Antonio Aparicio wrote: Christian, Interesting. Why the need to end this particlar thread? Antonio On 6 Jul 2004, at 22:18, Christian wrote: how to end this thread: "Antonio, You are so right! I hadn't seen the errors of my ways. Without your constand attention to Microsoft Windows vulnerabilities I would be completely lost in a pile of viruses, spyware and hijackers. Thank you so much for educating me. Now i will throw out my Windows computers and run out and buy Macs to replace them. Thank you again. I will be forever in your debt. Keep up the good work and make sure you continue to state the failings of Microsoft and the virtues of Macintosh." Christian -Original Message- From: Bob Blakely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Jul 6, 2004 3:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Windows Scob virus collects passwords, financial data; Macintosh unaffected There's no malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy either of these cars. Didn't you understand that a malevolent body of twits investing their time to destroy was the major point of the argument? No? Everyone else did. Regards, Bob... From: "Antonio Aparicio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Bob, If your only reply to the very seriuous securityh issue facing most of the worlds (Windows) computers is to point to maket share numbers, then I am afraid you are further removed from reality than I had thought. Market share and security are not the same thing. A car analogy for you. Volvo are a lot more secure than say Ford. But ford have a greater market share. Antonio On 6 Jul 2004, at 19:53, Bob Blakely wrote: Jostein, it's no use yacking back to him. Antonio has no sense of what's really happening, and he never will. Due to his own blind spots, he is incapable of understanding the following: 1.Windows (client) has a 93.8% share of the market 2.Mac & Linux are each about 3% of the market. http://www.informationweek.com/story/showArticle.jhtml? articleID=15202215 Now if someone is a cracker ass out to bring folks computers to their knees shouting uncle so that you can claim credit (via pseudonym, of course), which operating system is he going to target? Hint: Everyone on this list knows this, save the fool. Only an fool would claim that a Mac or Linux system is inherently more safe than a Windows system. The number of attempted attacks on them is paltry at best. It's easy to say you have the fastest hotrod in town when you've never really raced. Do you want to be more secure? Well then, buy that MAC or Linux operating system and be glad that everyone else isn't using it. That's what keeps you safe. But remember, the same thing that keeps you safe is what's responsible for the difference in software shelf space devoted to Windows vs. MAC and Linux together. So don't whine about lack of software diversity, my Mac & Linux friends, it's the visible sign of the very thing that keeps you relatively virus free - lack of market share. Remember: "It is impossible to make anything fool- proof because fools are so ingenious.." - unknown. Regards, Bob... "The heart of a fool is in his mouth, but the mouth of a wise man is in his heart." - Benjamin Franklin From: "Jostein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Please, antonio, Quote my arrogant statements. And since you say "again", please quote my previous arrogant statements too, if you can. I'd like to learn from my mistakes. Quoting Antonio Aparicio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Jostein, I think the arrogance and abuse (yet again) is all yours. Not to mention the flames. All I did was pass on the information. Cmon Jostein, any other product would be pulled from the market on safety grounds by now, not to mention trade descriptions/not fit for the purpose for which it was sold! - and yet with Windows we have 1,000s of viruses, trojans, etc. etc., all of which apparently the responsibility of the user acording to your argument. If anyone falls foul then it is their fault for not not downloading the latest fix from Microsoft nice thinkiing. I guess that is how you build and maintain a monopoly. Antonio On 6 Jul 2004, at 14:36, Jostein wrote: Please, mr. Aparicio. What an arrogant way to present "helpful information". By the time such information reaches your sources (whatever "The Syracuse Post-Standard" may be), most sensible windows users have updated their systems a long time
Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D)
Same here. Maybe closer to 90%. Of course, it is 0% when I use my K2 . Lewis which for me turns out to be 80%+ AF. Herb... - Original Message - From: "Rob Studdert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 10:25 AM Subject: Re: What % AF? (was Af speed of the *ist D) > That's true, but if you have the faculties to be able to effectively use AF or > manual focus then you'll use the best option for the situation? _ MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page FREE download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/
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Re: photography vs chickens
You guys seem just like scientists... Reaching a conclusion and then attempting to fit the evidence to it. Tom C. The seem more like some photographers who make an image and then search fo a justification of the image. Lewis _ Stop worrying about overloading your inbox - get MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/
OT: Vacation in London
A question for Londoners and UK PDML'ers - We have a ten day stay in London coming up in May; it will be our seventh stay in the city. I think we have visited most of the obvious places and some not so obvious. I would like your suggestions for places to see and photograph - places that a tourist from Indiana might otherwise miss . Rather than replying on list, I would appreciate your sending to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Lewis _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://clk.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: Martha Stewart
From: "Shel Belinkoff" Subject: Martha Stewart > Anyone going to the candle light vigil for Martha Stewart > this weekend? It's a Good Thing ... > > If she doesn't go to jail, I may hold a candle light vigil for the US justice system. William Robb I will join you, Bill. Lewis _ Fast. Reliable. Get MSN 9 Dial-up - 3 months for the price of 1! (Limited-time Offer) http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/
RE: The Local Pentax SLR Conundrum
Wednesday, February 25, 2004 10:47 PM > From: "Collin Brendemuehl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Cord tells me that the reason they're not stocking the istD > > (or any other Pentax SLR) is because Pentax is not able to > > deliver the quantities they need for building volume sales > > and the large customer base that a retailer needs to establish > > a product line. > > While the problem certainly exists, you have to consider your source. Cord is In Indianapolis, too. No particular gain for our city. Lewis _ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx
RE: OT: Scotland
From: "Mark Erickson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thinking about going to Scotland in May for a week or two. I've been to Edinburgh for a day, through the Grampians over a weekend, and to Aberdeen on business once. Any tips on particularly photogenic places to visit would be most welcome. Of course I'll have a Pentax or two with me Thanks, Mark Pitlochry and the surrounding area. Lewis _ Dream of owning a home? Find out how in the First-time Home Buying Guide. http://special.msn.com/home/firsthome.armx
Re: OT: Netiquette
I prefer bottom posting, but anyone who really cares doesn't have enough to occupy his/her mind. Regards, Lewis From: Bruce Dayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As you can see, my post is on top. That is how I like it. I find it very annoying to have to scroll down to read it. _ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/
Re: The decline and fall of (Kodak) film
Graywolf asked and answered: . Have I ever mentioned my opinion of MBA's? Of course I have. Perhaps they would listen if you had a viable suggestion. Lewis _ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1
Re: I like Mike's column this morning ;-))
Ditto. Emphatically. Lewis From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: I like Mike's column this morning ;-)) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 16:09:27 -0500 Shel Belinkoff wrote: > http://www.luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-03-21-12.shtml me too annsan _ Tired of slow downloads? Compare online deals from your local high-speed providers now. https://broadband.msn.com
RE: Different take on film v digital
My camera club - 41 members, 7 DSLR's - 3 Nikons, 4 Canons. Lewis From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Different take on film v digital Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 18:01:37 -0500 Interesting, Tom, As I was reading your post, I realized that other than pros, I haven't seen one DSLR outside of a store. And, when I say "other than pros", I mean that I've seen a few PJ's around, plus I have a couple of friends (okay, more like acquaintances) who are pros, and have toted around there gear a few times. But, walking around touristy areas of town, I've not seen one. And, I always keep my eyes open for cameras, believe me. So, the salesman's "almost all digital sales are p&s folks switching" sounds reasonable to me. I really haven't seen a huge increase in 35mm gear in the used sections of local shops. Medium Format yes, 35mm, no. cheers, frank "The optimist thinks this is the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears it is true." -J. Robert Oppenheimer From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Different take on film v digital Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 12:35:02 -0500 I was in Camera World of Charlotte (not related to CW out in Seatte), probably the same store Bill Owen was talking about a while back. They had baskets full of outdated 35mm film very cheap. I bought two bricks of Kodak Gold 100 x24 for $0.50 a roll. I got the impression this film was a special buy they got, rather than film they had not been able to sell. Talking to the sales guy about the slow down due to digital, He said that it was mostly the P&S crowd switching to digital that was hurting film sales. He also said the most of the guys buying DSLR's were not trading in their film cameras, but keeping both. He said that the slow economy was probably hurting film sales more than digital was. This is quite a bit different from most reports we have been hearing. -- -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/bcomm&pgmarket=en-ca&RU=http%3a%2f%2fjoin.msn.com%2f%3fpage%3dmisc%2fspecialoffers%26pgmarket%3den-ca _ Wonder if the latest virus has gotten to your computer? Find out. Run the FREE McAfee online computer scan! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: interesting camera club debate
> The last time I judged a contest, the digital thing was a PITA. I am no > longer a member in good standing of any camera club, but were I, the club > would treat any digitized image , no matter if the original was a negative > or a tiff, separately from an optically produced image. > My feeling is still that they are different media, and should be judged on > their own merits. > > William Robb Not intended as an argument - just my view- Having both judged and participated in shows that mix digital and film images, I don't see a problem. If the digital image is obviously overdone, it generally eliminates itself. If it isn't, then it competes on its merit - pretty much as traditionally manipulated images do. I am curious as to what the PITA was. The local fair i submit to each fall started a filma nd digital division 2 years ago. Dave Locally most salon shows separate 'digitally manipulated' images from others. Even then, if the manipultion is not something detectable it produces a gray area for decisions. Lewis _ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Captured Alive in Iraq
Ever take any pictures, Mishka? Lewis From: mishka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Captured Alive in Iraq Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2003 14:50:55 -0500 and the new one is well under its way. mishka > Congratulations to the Americans for capturing Hussein, his era of > tyranny is now over. _ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com
RE: interesting camera club debate
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: interesting camera club debate Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:52:34 -0500 As to whether digital and film should be judged separately, I really don't care. It's up to the club or those holding the competition to make the rules, and those who wish to enter either abide by those rules, or not. Personally, I've never been a big fan of art competitions anyway, whether they be piano, dance, painting, photography, whatever. Art stands on it's own. Either a viewer likes it, or they don't. It shouldn't be a competition, imho. Of course, that's just a personal opinion, and it's a reason why I wouldn't enter a competition myself, but for those of you who enjoy these things and enter these things, I make no judgment on you. But, here's the real point of my post (sometimes it takes a while ): How is it that digital shooters have "an unfair advantage"? There's a digital look and a film look (not that I can always tell the difference). Digital is faster, but for a contest, that wouldn't be an issue. Yes, digital can be manipulated in ways that film can't, or at least manipulations can be made much easier. But if you shoot film, you accept that limitation. Any ideas? Am I missing something really obvious? thanks, frank I compete regularly in a camera club that does not separate digitally manipulated prints from the traditionally produced images. (I submit only chemical darkroom prints, some of which are significantly manipulated.) The presence of digitally produced pictures does not bother me at all; this represents a near-unanimous view in our club. Only one or two of 33 printmakers have hinted at any objection - and generally those two have the reputation of "wanna-bes". No, Frank, you aren't missing anything - at least not as I see the situation. Regards, Lewis _ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
RE: Question on Spotmatics
No such Camera? Well, maybe. The first one marketed in the USA was body-badged ES and the second model was badged ESII. In both cases the ES stood for Electro-Spotmatic. Lewis From: "J. C. O'Connell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: Question on Spotmatics Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:56:38 -0500 no such camera. there was an electro-spotmatic model and a different, later camera model, called the ESII. JCO J.C. O'Connell mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://jcoconnell.com -Original Message- From: Andy Chang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Question on Spotmatics Anybody has the Pentax Eletro Spotmatic ESII? How is it like? Very curious Andy _ Wonder if the latest virus has gotten to your computer? Find out. Run the FREE McAfee online computer scan! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
RE: Question on Spotmatics
The ES II uses 76 series silver oxide batteries (Everready EPX76, Duracell MS76, Maxell SR44, Panasonic G13, Rayovac RS76, Varta V76PX, and others designated as S76 or just 76). 76 series batteries remain available. The ES uses a 544 silver oxide battery (and equivalent under other designations) which should be available. The SP, SPII, and SPIIA original equipment battery was the E400N, a defunct mercury battery. Regards, Lewis Can you still get batteries for the SPs? Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Joe Wilensky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 2:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Question on Spotmatics Hi, Andy, I had an ESII for a while, and really liked it -- very heavy and substantial, but with an overall feel of the very expensive camera it was at the time (more than $600 in 1973, I think, with lens). It works wonderfully with SMC Takumar lenses (open aperture metering) and is only somewhat limited with Super-Takumar lenses in that you must stop the lens down to shooting aperture before exposure. The light meter, even though it's uses CdS cells like the Spotmatic, seems more responsive. It has Pentax's first Super-Multi-Coated viewfinder eyepiece and has the built-in viewfinder blinds for exposures on a tripod where light entering the viewfinder could throw off the automatic exposure. No memory lock, but it has exposure compensation. Manual shutter speeds are only available at 1/60 (flash synch), 1/125, 1/250, 1/500, and 1/1000, albeit without the light meter available. Joe >Anybody has the Pentax Eletro Spotmatic ESII? How is it like? Very >curious > >Andy _ Dont worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
RE: OT: Wierd place names
From: "Malcolm Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: OT: Wierd place names Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 20:24:43 - Peter Jordan wrote: > I live in a place called "Haugh of Urr". Prize to any correct > pronunications. I love this one :-) Hawk of Urry close? Malcolm Haw-uv-ur? Lewis _ Tired of slow downloads and busy signals? Get a high-speed Internet connection! Comparison-shop your local high-speed providers here. https://broadband.msn.com
Re: OT:Weird place names-was: GFM Attendees (updated)
Don't forget JU-ANITA, Kansas, kids and in Newfoundland there is a town called Heart's Content not too far from - (really) Dildo. But nothing odd about the pronounciation. annsan, who knows about KAYRO, too ...and near my old Indiana hometown there are two "wide places in the road" called Mudsock and Dead Dog. I have a picture of the church in Dead Dog. It is, of course, abandoned. Lewis _ Browse styles for all ages, from the latest looks to cozy weekend wear at MSN Shopping. And check out the beauty products! http://shopping.msn.com
Re: OT:Weird place names-was: GFM Attendees (updated)
- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: OT:Weird place names-was: GFM Attendees (updated) > Isn't there a town on the Missouri River (it may also be in Illinois, I > can't remember), called Cairo (just like in Egypt), except it's pronounced > "Kay-roh" (unlike the city on the Nile)? > > -frank Indeed there is a Cairo pronounced Kay-roh in Southern Illinois. Visit there and you will learn some other strange pronunciations . Lewis _ Take advantage of our best MSN Dial-up offer of the year six months @$9.95/month. Sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
RE: ...they're good for your heart... (was Re: OT: PayPal alternative
From: "Bob Blakely" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It's similar to Ford buying a car (complete) from Mitsubishi with the Ford name on it from and selling it as a Ford. Regards, Bob... Just for the record, Daimler-Chrysler, not Ford, has a working agreement with Mitsubishi. Rumsfield speak deleted, because Rumsfield doesn't understand it either. Lewis _ Is there a gadget-lover on your gift list? MSN Shopping has lined up some good bets! http://shopping.msn.com
Re: The morality of taking a photograph
When you figure it out, let me know . I was in obstreperous mode and I apologize. Best, Lewis I accept the admonishment for some sort of wrongdoing. In a few days I'll figure out what the hell it was I did wrong. Regards, Bob... > Thanks for pointing that out, Bob. I will check with you before I make any > further judgments... _ Say goodbye to busy signals and slow downloads with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)
Re: The morality of taking a photograph
I honestly fail to see how taking pictures of what is, of what is actually "out there" can be any sort of inherent put down. Those things just *are.* Photography, like painting/drawing, in addition to what is really there, is so much a matter of what we, the viewer, bring to it. Sort of like a Rorschach test. Marnie aka Doe At last, a voice of reason. Lewis _ online games and music with a high-speed Internet connection! Prices start at less than $1 a day average. https://broadband.msn.com (Prices may vary by service area.)
Re: The morality of taking a photograph
None of the above. A photograph cannot be critical or subjective or judgmental. Only the viewer harbours those abilities. Cheers, Cotty Exactly. The photograph is an image. The image invokes a viewer response. Ignoring any legal question, morality is in the mind of the viewer. Should Shel have made the image? Only Shel can answer. The rest of us can be fascinated, surprised, disgusted, or... It remains Shel's image. I agree with an earlier message that many of us avoid making people pictures due to issues with ourselves. Perhaps we should face those issues rather than avoiding them. Reagrdless of the subject, I am enjoying image related discussion as opposed to gear related minutae. Best, Lewis _ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx
Re: The morality of taking a photograph
From: Mat Maessen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The classic example that I use is Richard Avedon's portraits of his father. As one critic described it, he "murdered his own father with the camera." Then it is apparent that the 'critic' didn't read the text that went with the photographs. Lewis _ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es
RE: AF280T battery door repair
Thanks, Anton. Lewis Lewis I had this problem a while back and posted to the PDML. I got a reply from a member - whose name escapes me now - and I took the precaution on saving his reply which I paste below. You can order the latch/door from Pentax - it is quite inexpensive - and fit it yourself. There are two screws in the foot that need to come off, and one covered up behind the cosmetic panel by the "test" button, the cosmetic needs to be peeled back. There are two more screws at the rear of the base that the head rotates on that I think need to come loose as well...you will need to rotate the head to get to them. There is no need to remove the two forward screws. This should loosen the front and rear of the flash to allow room to tilt the old battery door out and the new one in. Hope this makes sense. I would add, be careful that you don't lose the plunger and spring that pressurise the door, they come flying out as you prise the body apart if you're not careful. I have repaired my two 280's with no problems. Anton _ From Beethoven to the Rolling Stones, your favorite music is always playing on MSN Radio Plus. No ads, no talk. Trial month FREE! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio
Re: Infra red
Dont forget the focus is slightly off, there should be a red mark left of infinity, I forget this some times myself when I shoot IR. Also anything with a clean edge, buildings etc. get a ghostly look since all of the wavelengths dont focus to the same point, i.e. Optical lenses are not achromatic in the IR range. Geoff > Kevin Waterson wrote: > > > Thought I might wander down to the beach with the K1000 > > and some Kodak HIE. I have never used this before, the infra red > > not the K1000, any pointers, tips, filter tricks? > > what ASA? I was going to use 50 or 100? > > How about exposure? > > What filters might look avant garde? > >pick a sunny day, puffy clouds are a plus >put on a #25 red filter >use a wide, rather than a tele - say, 24mm -> 50mm >set shutter speed at 1/125th sec >set aperture at f11 >shoot w/ the sun coming from behind you >get green leaf foliage in the frame if you can > >be certain whoever develops it knows not to allow any >light to get anywhere near the film or the canister! > > . enjoy In addition to all of the above - as implied, ignore any metering. Bracket at f8 &f16. Be aware that evergreen neeedles will be gray rather than white. ...and if after experimenting you want to go overboard, buy Laurie White's Infrared Photography Handbook. Best, Lewis _ MSN Messenger with backgrounds, emoticons and more. http://www.msnmessenger-download.com/tracking/cdp_customize
Re: And now: the *ist D vs. the EOS 300D!
I guess it depends on what you choose to not understand. Lewis From: graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have never understood how one could see well enough to take photos and not well enough to focus the camera at the same time. - Lewis Matthew wrote: I see my opthalmologist annually, but since I wear trifocals, many photographic situations work better using autofocus. So long as the photographer understands its limitations, what is wrong with autofocus? -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com "You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway." _ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio
Re: maco b&w infrared film
From: "gregcooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I saw some maco infrared in with the frigerated film at the camera store I frequent. I've shot a fair bit of Konica and Kodak infrared, and am wondering how it compares. Any one ever tried it? Greg Cooper Considering the ethereal effect with a Red 25 or 29 filter, more so than KIR 750, less so than Kodak HIE. Regards, Lewis _ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio
Re: The istD brotherhood needs a name!
for me. > > > > The pixies. > Digitalado. Lewis _ Crave some Miles Davis or Grateful Dead? Your old favorites are always playing on MSN Radio Plus. Trial month free! http://join.msn.com/?page=offers/premiumradio
Re: R.I.P. II
A little before 1 this morning, we had our beloved dog Dexter euthanized. He had begun internal bleeding, and was in a lot of pain, so we felt this was best for him. He went peacefully, after 13 wonderful years as part of our family. Here is a portrait I did of him back when we lived in Tennessee: http://www.alphoto.com/dex.jpg Rest easy, my friend. ...and he will rest gently in your memories. Condolences, Lewis _ Help protect your PC. Get a FREE computer virus scan online from McAfee. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: Macro lenses
> Are there any particular > disadvantages to a 50mm lens & a x2 converter? It is not as convenient to use and it is not as sharp as a "real" macro lens. Furthermore, all you have is a 100mm lens - not a macro lens. A standard 50 plus converter lacks the close focusing capability of a true macro lens. Lewis _ Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com
Re: R.I.P.
Sympathy from me and sad meows from Fuji and Dubbie. Lewis I'm bummed. A little before 3 this morning, I heard my cat cough and then this 'thud'. Flipping on the lights, I found her laying on the floor, unconscious. She died a few minutes later. Just a few hours before she was running around playing like a kitten. Vet says it was probably heartworms. Third cat to die this year, though they were all old. Rest in peace, Pandora. _ Instant message in style with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! http://msnmessenger-download.com
Re: OT: photo clothing
>As Cotty and Jostein have been extolling the virtues of Scotland, maybe >they will be interested in this. > >http://www.tenba.com/camera/photokilt.htm LOL. The dude in the pic looks like he's just got a waft of cold air up his bagpipes :-) Judging from the expression, I doubt that it was air :-) Lewis _ MSN 8: Get 6 months for $9.95/month http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup
