Re: KP pre-order

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P. J. Alling wrote:
>
> The fact that it's the replacement for the K-3 series is just a bit
> disappointing, actually that's an understatement, but I expected it
> probably was...

The KP is a thousand dollars and the K-1 is two grand. Given that a
camera in between tham would be around $1500 I'd guess it will be a
stripped-down full-frame rather than a up-spec APS-C.

So there will likely be ho higher-spec APS-C camera.

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Re: And an annual happy birthday to everyone

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On 12/22/2016 9:20 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:52 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:


Paul via phone


On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:29 PM, Gonz  wrote:

The average age of PDML members is definitely going up.  Where is the
new blood!??


Taking pics with their phones.


And not using email, which most of them have never heard of. And if
they have, they can't get past the text-only requirement.

The PDML has a pretty robust geezers-only firewall in place.


I thought Doug removed the plain-text-only requirement?



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Re: PESO: PDML Yorkshire

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P.J. Alling wrote:

I thought British pints were redefined to conform to the 1/2 liter or 
did they make an exception to that...

A pint in a British pub is a British Imperial Pint: 20 fluid ounces or
568 millilitres.

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Re: Just got back my slide film from GFM!

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One of the things I like about the PDML is how a post of a medium
format color nature photography shot can evolve into a discussion of
techniques used by photojournalists in the BW, Speed Graphic era.


Mark Roberts wrote:

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

According to Wikipedia, Most of his notable photographs were taken
with very basic press photographer equipment and methods of the era, a
4x5 Speed Graphic camera preset at f/16 at 1/200 of a second, with
flashbulbs and a set focus distance of ten feet.

Yep. That's more like it.

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 f/8 and be there.

I have usually seen it attributed to WeeGee, which of course would be
logical, given the type of photography he did.  That of course
probably means it is inaccurate.  G

 f/8 sounds a little inadequate for depth of field on a 4x5 camera,
 what is what Weegee shot. I'm thinking it was more likely someone who
 used 35mm.
 
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Re: OT: Market Cap comparison of Ricoh and Nikon

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Darren Addy wrote:

Appropo of nothing, I found it interesting that Ricoh Co LTD has a
larger market cap than Nikon (788B to 719.87B). Canon is *much* larger
at 3.6T

Was the one for Nikon *just* Nikon or was it for the parent company
(Mitsubishi)?

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Re: Aliasing question

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Larry Colen wrote:

It seems to me that if you had a rear illuminated sensor, with no space
between the pixels, and it had no bayer filter, then aliasing/moire would
not happen, because the light value would be averaged over the whole sample.

It's the discontinuous aspect of what is effectively three overlayed photos
that is causing the aliasing.

Is this correct?

Nope. Aliasing is possible whenever the (spatial) frequency of the
image is higher than that of the sensor. The interesting thing is that
with 24 megapixels in an APS-C sensor you probably won't need an
anti-aliasing filter in all but the most extreme cases (the absolute
highest quality glass (at its optimum aperture), tripod mounting,
mirror lock-up, high shutter speed). The Nikon D800 is notorious for
demanding only top-shelf lenses and the pixel density of a 24MP APS-C
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Re: Kodak emerged from bankruptcy yesterday

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More:

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-09-04/a-tiny-boring-kodak-takes-consumers-out-of-the-picture

http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2013/09/04/kodaks-back-but-as-what.aspx


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Re: OT - This is Why Your Pictures Suck

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

Fucking depressing.

Agreed. Written by someone with a real superiority complex.

That kind of condescending approach never helps anyone improve their
art. It only makes the person espousing it feel good about themselves.

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Re: OT - two unrelated complaints

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Charles Robinson wrote:

On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:41 , Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 2. Why do radio and TV ads depicting camera shutter presses still
 insert the sound effect for a film-era motor drive? Wake up you
 ad-creating doofuses!! It's not 1995.

The sound-effect for most every digital camera (including cellphones) tends to 
use this very same sound.  

I sorta get it as an effect on a small electronic box so you have positive 
feedback that the image-taking has occurred.  I DON'T 'get it' as a foley 
effect for a non-film-era digital SLR being used on a show... then it's just 
sloppy!

The job of the foley artists is to provide the sound the audience
expects - or whatever will emphasize the action on screen - not
provide *real* sounds. That's why we get spaceships making whooshing
sounds in the vacuum of space and handguns making the sounds of field
artillery.

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Re: Instagram photos of North East Storm

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We just finished digging out. I shoveled several times yesterday, the
final time at 10:00 last night, so it wasn't too bad this morning. I
don't know what the official NWS figure is, but we got around 3 ft
here in Jamaica Plain (a Boston neighborhood). And that's not counting
the drifts!

Still, not a big deal to battle-hardened veterans like Lisa and
myself. Years of living in Rochester, NY, where this kind of snowfall
isn't uncommon, is good preparation.

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Re: At least they didn't shoot me

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Amateurs produce amateur security, which costs more in dollars, time,
liberty, and dignity while giving us less -- or even no -- security.
- Bruce Schneier

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Pdml Photo Annual Update: Week 4

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We're in the middle of the trough that always occurs during the
submittal period. Every year we get a big load of images during the
first week, tapering off during the next few weeks and then building
up to a frantic last-minute rush in the final week.

Have mercy on your editors, send your three photos now!

http://www.robertstech.com/pdmlbook/pdmlbook.php


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Re: Too good not to share

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Mark Roberts wrote:

If you've never been to GFM and seen the Doug  Mark show... here's
the better half of it:
http://youtu.be/jhz7LdS-mDE

He moved pretty fast for a pervert.

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Pentax Forums FAIL on Facebook

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This ad appeared on Facebook this morning

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/PentaxForumsFAIL.jpg

Yes, that's a Nikon D800 in the photo. Way to go, Pentax Forums!

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Re: PDML Photo Annual

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By the way, we've had some really top-notch stuff submitted already.
Things are looking good for volume 5!


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Re: Pentax sighting in BH promotional video

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kwal...@peoplepc.com wrote:

Most of the time the correct comparison to make is between
 the stability of *no tripod at all* and that of a tripod with the
 center column extended.

Agreed

Yes, keeping the center column retracted is a
 better option, 

Agreed

but if it's not possible or practical it shouldn't be
dismissed so lightly.

Then you bought the wrong size tripod.

...or bought several different tripods and didn't happen to have the
right one with you at the time. (This happens approximately 99% of the
time. It's just like lenses.)


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The origins of art criticism

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http://youtu.be/CUTGC5N7hCI


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Re: PESO shadows of blues

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knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

(Back in the early days of eBay before it was taken over by big retail 
establishments and lots of camera stuff was being sold by people who 
didn't know cameras I always laughed when someone posted a marco lens 
for sale...)

To be truly eBay-speak it would have to be a marco lense

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Re: GESO: Visitor portraits

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Bob Sullivan wrote:

http://photo.net/photodb/folder?folder_id=1041381

We hosted some visitors last week.
You know the young lady from her pictures,
and may recognize her dad, Boris of the pdml.
All taken at ISO 1600 on the K-5 with the DA55/1.4,
wide open to f2.5.  I borrowed the window light from Doug Brewer.
She is a lovely 10 year old.

Beautiful! Don't let Doug have that light back...

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Re: About those $2000.00 full-frame cameras...

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Peter Jordan wrote:

OTOH, I shot 1200 frames last weekend, mainly of empty air where hummingbirds 
had just been.

That's 33 rolls of film which at say $10 for film plus DP would have been a 
good chunk of change.

It occurred to me recently that a lot of people could use memory cards
just once - never delete images and when the card is full simply buy a
new one - and still spend less than they would on film/processing for
the same number of shots. Amazing how far we've come in so little
time.

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Re: OT: Large Format photographer at Olympics

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Darren Addy wrote:

I got a kick out of this:
http://www.petapixel.com/2012/08/07/large-format-sports-photographer-seen-at-olympic-gymnastics/
The photographer's site:
http://www.davidburnett.com/

David Burnett has been doing this kind of photography, and doing it
well, for many years. I think his Speed Graphic work in Time magazine
a few years back helped start the fad of using tilt/shift lenses to
get the miniature look.

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Film flashback

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... as in I used some at GFM this year:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc03307.jpg

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Re: Do sRGB and adobe RGB make any difference in raw files?

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Larry Colen wrote:

For an event that I'm shooting, it was just specified we shoot in raw and, 
adobe RGB.

My understanding was that sRGB and adobe RGB only came into play in converting 
to JPEG, that RAW was just the raw data off the sensor.

Am I more confused than usual?

Nope. You're quite correct. Raw files are in the device-determined
color space of the sensor (and, theoretically, associated
hardware/software).

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Re: 2012 Photo Annual - Mark

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Mark Roberts wrote:

Jack Davis wrote:

Mark,
Do you have an estimated posting date for the 2012 annual preview?

If the tracking information from FedEx is correct... later today!

Tracking web site just updated: No joy till tomorrow :(

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Re: K-3 @ Sept Photokina?

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Matthew Hunt wrote:

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 More from the rumour mill: K-3 FF @ September Photokina: the world’s
 most compact full frame.

 http://www.petapixel.com/2012/06/18/pentax-to-announce-the-k3-full-frame-dslr-at-photokina/

I like how the previous rumors paragraph regurgitates PentaxForum's
April Fools' joke. (And that's the picture they're using, too.)

Also, note that Photo Rumors doesn't use the name K-3 -- PetaPixel
made that jump for no apparent reason. (Possibly, again, the April
Fools' joke.)

A few sites are apparently using the old April Fool's photo with the
latest rumor information. More details on the supposed camera here:
http://photorumors.com/2012/06/15/more-pentax-full-frame-dslr-rumors/#more-27174

Where's Tan? Does this confirm what your Aussie sources say?

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Same stream, different photo

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Here's another shot of that stream (Shanty Branch) on Grandfather
Mountsin. It's the same little cascade but in a horizontal pano rather
than vertical. And it's cropped from a single shot rather than
stitched from several.

http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc02602-Shanty-Branch-Panorama.jpg

Full-size photo is around 5000 x 2000 pixels. I was just thinking how
it wasn't that long ago that such an image would had to have been
stitched together from several shots rather than just cropped out of
one.



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Re: Same stream, different photo

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Ann Sanfedele wrote:

 http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc02602-Shanty-Branch-Panorama.jpg

Greenery really lush this year - lovely shot 
get any lady slippers? :-)

No Lady Slippers and very few wildflowers of any kind. The early
spring they had this year meant that most of the flowers were gone by
the time we got there. You had to go high on the mountain even to find
Rhododendrons that weren't fading.



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Packed and ready

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I've got all my camping and photography gear packed up and ready to go
to GFM. Planning on departing in the wee hours tomorrow morning. I'll
be stopping in Durham, NC to see some friends and heading to the
mountain on Thursday. 

Perhaps some reports will make it to the List during the weekend.
We'll do our best.

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Re: Rumor of a new intro Pentax Body

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Miserere wrote:

Let me tell you a story, my friend. Last Sunday I ran into a chap
carrying a Nikon D800E. We chatted a bit, I gave him my photography
card, and I asked him why he bought the D800E, because my blog
partner, who shoots weddings with a D700, was annoyed that the new
Nikon had so many pixels. With a straight face, and the air of someone
who is imparting great knowledge, this guy said to me:

Resolution is what truly matters; it's what makes this camera a GREAT camera.

I asked him what he photographed, he replied I work at that print
shop around the corner; we do all the menus for the Chinese
restaurants in the area and I shot dishes for them to put in their
menus.

These photos are no more than an inch on the long side.

True story.

Priceless. Astonishing. Heartbreaking.

(Then again, maybe he photographs 100 different dishes in one shot and
just crops out the correct bit for each part of the menu...)

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Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

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Doug Franklin wrote:

When you're shooting action, especially outdoors, you're going to 
take one in the forehead every so often, no matter what your technique.

Wisdom!

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Re: Any Boston PDML up for a trip to Hunt's on Friday?

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Miserere wrote:

On 5 May 2012 20:36, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Pentax is doing some kind of promo thing at Hunt's camera on Friday
 (11:00 am according to their Facebook announcement). They say they'll
 have the Optio WG-2 and the K-01 on hand. This is apparently taking
 place at the Melrose location (where they did the 645D presentation).

Mark,

I am reading this a bit behind schedule, but I couldn't have made it
anyway (was out of town). Did you go? Is the K-01 as great as you
thought it was...or as crap as *I* thought it was?  :-)

I didn't get to go. But personally, I have never fancied the K-01 for
myself: lack of a viewfinder is a deal-killer to me.

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Re: Calibrating light meters and digital cameras

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Larry Colen wrote:

One thing that I don't understand is how a handheld light meter would work 
significantly better with digital than taking a photo and looking at the 
histogram.  Or, for that matter, if it's an important shot, why not just 
bracket.  Drop $100 on a light meter, and that will buy you a terabyte of 
storage.  Plus, if you bracket in digital, you always have the option of 
combining the frames in post production.

I could almost see some justification for using a hand held meter if you are 
shooting JPEG, only have a 1GB card, and you camera doesn't have the ability 
to display histograms or delete test shots.

I expressed this opinion a couple of years ago and Bill Rob explained
how light meters are invaluable for determining lighting ratios (among
multiple light sources) in studio photography.

Of course, for the kind of photography I do a light meter would be
just extra weight to carry, as you noted. In fact use my DSLR as a
light meter when shooting with my Pentax 67 (which has the non-metered
prism).

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PDML Photo Annual - latest update

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On Tuesday I was invited to a meeting of the Global Health Initiative
(that's the name they have adopted) group at Dana-Farber. About a
dozen people were in attendance, almost all of whom had heard of the
PDML book fundraising effort(!) As it's a really new program we're the
only donor group specifically dedicated to them, so our little project
is appreciated however small the amount we raise.

One of the people present was a medical resident from Rwanda who's
getting training at Dana-Farber. I don't even want to think about
getting cancer in Rwanda... or the steep road ahead for this young
physician but my hat's off to him.

All in all it was a very encouraging (possibly even inspiring)
meeting. It reaffirms my belief that dumping NCCF/CureSearch was the
right thing to do: If there's ever an issue or problem with our
current charity beneficiary I can go two miles down the road and knock
on Dr. Carlos's door at a moment's notice. Good people.


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Re: My apologies in advance

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Larry Colen wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/7000810410/in/set-72157629610409960/

At least you didn't wish us Happy Star Wars Day on Friday.


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Re: PDML Photo Annual Update

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David J Brooks wrote:

On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Paul Sorenson pentax1...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks, Mark.  With the proliferation of tablets and e-readers I like to
 promote the electronic version, especially since it results in a larger
 research donation.

I am going to assume this will be available to read on the wifes Kobo.??

Yep, Kobo reader is on the list of devices that support ePub format.

I also note that there is now software that will convert ePub format
into something readable by the Amazon Kindle Fire (but not earlier
Kindles). I haven't tried it but it might be something Kindle Fire
owners should look into.

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PDML Photo Annual Update

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Sorry for the delay... We are of course running late but the Annual is
nearing completion. This semester has been absolutely mad for me, with
a lot of material preparation for the new course I've been teaching.
But things are coming together

I've got all the images formatted and paired up and the layout done.
I'll be checking in with Dr. Carlos at Dana-Farber this week and
writing up a synopsis of how their program is going. Then there's just
a few more pages to format. I hope to be ordering a proof copy by the
end of this week. We'll see...


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Re: Ned Bunnell blogs the K-01

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David J Brooks wrote:

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote:

 He lost me at the assertion one of those cameras that turns any user-
 even the most basic user-into a professional photographer.

 Bullshit! Equipment don't make you a photographer.


 Really? Try being a photographer with no equipment...

I think they are called painters.:-)

With *no* equipment? Try finger painters.

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Re: OT: More EVIL behavior from Google

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John, get the NoScript add-on for Firefox and don't let Google run
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PESO: Cotty and Kitty

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Warning: Cat photo
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/7dc01535.jpg

The man and his dear, now-departed cat Duki.
From our visit to chez Cotty last month.


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Re: Kodak Preparing for Bankruptcy?

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Morris Galloway wrote:

Several U.S. News organizations are reporting Kodak is preparing for 
Bankruptcy proceedings.
Hope this hasn't been discussed already -- a little tardy in keeping up 
with PDML.

I read about it a little earlier today but I don't think it's hit the
PDML yet.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gvIVQRPks6PrUh1aM8IdsMKQko6w?docId=38a878d35c894661b0973710855f2003

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203471004577140841495542810.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

http://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/2012/01/04/report-kodak-readies-bankruptcy-filing-shares-plunge-below-50-cents/


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Re: PPG

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Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

It is said that a good photographer can find art or beauty in the most
mundane of objects.

There is a Pentax photographer who seems determined to prove that
point.  He or she has posted an image to the PPG entitled Dog Shit,
and yes, the image depicts exactly what the title leads one to expect.
 Dog Shit.  Lying in the grass.

Art?  Humor?  Anger?  Or perhaps did he or she just have a shitty day?

Hre's my guess: He's lined up a group of friends to vote yes on it -
as a *test* to see if the Pentax Photo Gallery has gone to a
peer-vote-only approval system.


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Re: Digital for Newscoverage - BBC Article

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Tom Rittenhouse wrote:

If editor's still demand lots of shots to chose from, as most do, the whole
argument is moot. Besides those slide photographers throw out more slides
than they keep. Then there is the question of accessablity, do photos stored
in a box in my attic add anything to the record of history?

The whole article seems to be another luddite trying to justify her luddite
fears. It was also a vehicle to generate ten thosand uninformed answers
just
like this one.

Agreed. It seemed to me a deliberate and rather weak attempt on the part
of the writer and the BBC editors to stir up controversy.

A) The photographic record has always been edited in one way or another.

B) Digital photography will eventually result in more, not fewer, photographs
being taken to record any given event.

C) As storage capacity increases, the number of images saved digitally will
equal or surpass the quantity that could be done on film.

And finally...

D) More does not equal better. Anyone who's ever had to sift through hundreds
of slides in notebooks or hundreds of files on a hard disk can attest that
a few good images are better than a sea of data. 

Personally, I think that B, C and D together represent the real problem:
That someday we'll be so overwhelmed by the volume of data (images, in this
case) that it becomes a nearly impossible task to separate the wheat from
the chaff.
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