RE: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-20 Thread Len Paris
Yep, Lexar and others make USB2 6-in-1's.  Firewire is also available
now.

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> > One thing to be aware of - the six-in-one readers found in a lot of
> > systems (including my high-end HP desktop) are only USB 1 -
> > no faster
> > than transferring via the direct camera-to-USB connection.
> 
> My 6-in-1 is USB2.
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Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-20 Thread John Francis
> 
> Yep, Lexar and others make USB2 6-in-1's.

Right.  I was merely pointing out that it's still pretty
common to find slow USB versions, even in systems where
you might expect something better (like my 3-month-old HP,
which has built-in firewire, USB2.0, an 800Mhz frontside
bus, support for the high-end P4HT chips, etc., etc.).



Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-20 Thread Peter Loveday
> Not that I'm too bothered if the transfer takes half an hour.  The only
> time I'm likely to care about speed is if I'm out in the field, when I
> will probably be loading onto my laptop using a PCMCIA adapter, which
> should be able to transfer a little faster.

Actually if you want really good transfer speeds on a laptop, go for a
CardBus adapter, rather than PCMCIA.  The only one I'm aware of is from
Delkin.

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Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-20 Thread Michel Carrère-Gée
John Francis a écrit:
You can use the camera to send the files to your computer with the supplied
USB cord.  I found it easier to buy a ~$20 card reader that plugs right into
the fromt-mounted USB connection on my CPU.


That's probably going to be the fastest transfer method, as long as you
get a USB 2 reader (and have USB 2 ports on your computer).
One thing to be aware of - the six-in-one readers found in a lot of
systems (including my high-end HP desktop) are only USB 1 - no faster
than transferring via the direct camera-to-USB connection.
Not that I'm too bothered if the transfer takes half an hour.  The only
time I'm likely to care about speed is if I'm out in the field, when I
will probably be loading onto my laptop using a PCMCIA adapter, which
should be able to transfer a little faster.
USB 2
That is two USB 2 !
- USB 2 HIGH speed is just a certified USB 1.1 !!
- USB 2 FULL speed is THE real new USB 2.
Michel




Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread David Mann
Shel Belinkoff wrote:

> It seems that some USB 2 cards are not pushing pixels as fast as they
> should be.  Some are designated as USB 2 only to indicate that they are
> "compatible" with that format.  So, if you're looking to buy a USB 2 card
> reader, be sure that it's high speed USB 2, and that it will work at that
> higher speed on your computer.

I seem to recall that one of the slower USB versions was renamed to USB 
2.0 or something like that to make it more marketable when the higher 
speed USB 2 came out.  I think one is called "fast USB2" and the other 
"high-speed USB2".

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm exhausted after a very 
long/busy week and may be prone to imagining things.

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/




Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread John Francis
> 
> > Not that I'm too bothered if the transfer takes half an hour.  The only
> > time I'm likely to care about speed is if I'm out in the field, when I
> > will probably be loading onto my laptop using a PCMCIA adapter, which
> > should be able to transfer a little faster.
> 
> Actually if you want really good transfer speeds on a laptop, go for a
> CardBus adapter, rather than PCMCIA.  The only one I'm aware of is from
> Delkin.

I can't use some PCMCIA adapters - I use Microdrives, which are fatter.



Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Herb Chong
have you compared battery life versus CompactFlash cards? i see that the 4GB
MicroDrive card draws 310mA when writing while most CF cards are in the 65mA
range. i'm right now using a 1GB CF card and it holds only 70 RAW images.
the alternative is to spend more and get a 2GB CF card instead.

Herb

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> I can't use some PCMCIA adapters - I use Microdrives, which are fatter.




Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Leonard Paris
There's something to be said for not putting all your eggs (images) in one 
basket.  Why not buy two more 1GB CF cards?  Just yesterday all you could 
shoot on a roll of film was 36 pictures.  Changing CF cards every 70 (or 
even every 35) shots is not that time consuming or tiring.  If you ever have 
a CF card fail, you'll be happy you don't have the whole day's worth of 
images on it.

Len
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From: "Herb Chong" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:28:03 -0500
have you compared battery life versus CompactFlash cards? i see that the 
4GB
MicroDrive card draws 310mA when writing while most CF cards are in the 
65mA
range. i'm right now using a 1GB CF card and it holds only 70 RAW images.
the alternative is to spend more and get a 2GB CF card instead.

Herb

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> I can't use some PCMCIA adapters - I use Microdrives, which are fatter.


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Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Juey Chong Ong
On Friday, Nov 21, 2003, at 03:10 America/New_York, David Mann wrote:

I seem to recall that one of the slower USB versions was renamed to USB
2.0 or something like that to make it more marketable when the higher
speed USB 2 came out.  I think one is called "fast USB2" and the other
"high-speed USB2".
The nomenclature for USB2 and the design bandwidths are:

USB2 Low-speed: 1.5 Mbps
USB2 Full-speed: 12 Mbps
USB2 High-speed: 480 Mbps
So make sure the cable, device and PC says "USB2 High-speed"! They have 
a special logo to indicate that.

--jc



Re: *ist-D image transfer speeds

2003-11-21 Thread Herb Chong
i don't know where people get this idea that CF cards are fragile. there
proven cases where the cards have been through all kinds of things they were
never designed to and held up. all the verified cases that i know of data
loss have been because of user error. lots of anecdotes and no proof.
changing of cards is the number one danger to the data on them. the fewer
the changes, the better.

Herb
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Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:36 AM
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> There's something to be said for not putting all your eggs (images) in one
> basket.  Why not buy two more 1GB CF cards?  Just yesterday all you could
> shoot on a roll of film was 36 pictures.  Changing CF cards every 70 (or
> even every 35) shots is not that time consuming or tiring.  If you ever
have
> a CF card fail, you'll be happy you don't have the whole day's worth of
> images on it.