Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Zos Xavius
Ding a ding dang a dang a long a ding dong. I love that song. Not many
people that realize that was gibby haynes completely trashed on
vocals.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>
>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then.
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>>
>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>> twenty or so years.
>
> Very cool photo.  Very cool car.
>
> It's funny that for someone that as a kid who spent so many hours drawing 
> pictures of, and making models, of dragsters I've never drag raced.
>
> In a bit of coincidence at about the same time as I saw your photo, I was 
> listening to "Jesus Built my Hotrod" by Ministry:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzPFyeXGEE
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Larry Colen

On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
> how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
> more into the racing than the photography back then. 
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
> 
> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
> of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
> for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
> years.

Very cool photo.  Very cool car.

It's funny that for someone that as a kid who spent so many hours drawing 
pictures of, and making models, of dragsters I've never drag raced.  

In a bit of coincidence at about the same time as I saw your photo, I was 
listening to "Jesus Built my Hotrod" by Ministry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzPFyeXGEE


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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
By 77 the Ektachrome shooting was mine, not Dad's.
But the stuff from the 50's and 60's was his and faded.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
>
> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6
> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.
>
> bill
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Mark C
Great image, looks like an awesome car. Didn't know you used to race ! 
The colors on the slide look great - glad the V500 is working out!


Mark

On 2/23/2013 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
more into the racing than the photography back then.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg

Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
years.

Paul



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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
It was a AA/Fuel funny car. Ran a best quarter mile of 6.37 seconds, 237 mph in 
1976. Track promotors billed it as the world's fastest Corvette, which it may 
have been at the time. Although it wasn't really a Corvette of course. Just 
looked like one.


On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Kenneth Waller  wrote:

> nice documentary shot!
> 
> What class did it run in?
> 
> I recently went thru 25000+ slides from back in the 60's and edited out most 
> down to a few hundred and need to scan those.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Stenquist 
>> Subject: 1975 Kodachrome
>> 
>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. 
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>> 
>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>> twenty or so years.
> 
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
And of course there's much about digital that film can't reproduce. In the end, 
I take digital for my serious work, hands down. That said, Ive had a lot of fun 
with film this week. I have to break out my Speed Graphic some time soon.

Paul
On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Zos Xavius  wrote:

> Looking through these old film scans makes me want to get a MF film
> camera even more. Heck a crown graphic would be a lot of fun too. :)
> 
> There's something about film that digital can't reproduce. I can't
> wait to try my first roll of velvia. :)
> 
> On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bill  wrote:
>> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill,
>>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
>> 
>> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6
>> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.
>> 
>> 
>> bill
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RE: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Kenneth Waller
Amen bro


-Original Message-
>From: "J.C. O'Connell" 
>Subject: RE: 1975 Kodachrome
>
>Projection is one of the things I miss about film. I used to project
>my kodachrome 64 slides to great effect. Today no 16 MP digital 
>projectors are even available let alone affordable. A nice ektagraphic
>slide projector was only a few hundred bucks. The other benefit was
>shooting slides was cheaper than prints...
>
>-
>J.C.O'Connell
>hifis...@gate.net
>-
>
>-Original Message-
>From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill
>Subject: Re: 1975 Kodachrome
>
>On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
>> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
>> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
>> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.
>>
>Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading 
>problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a 
>lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure 
>fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection.
>Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had 
>terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not 
>a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger 
>made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable 
>boring slide shows.
>But I digress.
>The point of this, if I can ever find it
>When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's 
>slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good 
>shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of 
>the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything 
>from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing 
>pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from 
>the mid 1950s to the late 1960s.
>
>bill



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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Kenneth Waller
nice documentary shot!

What class did it run in?

I recently went thru 25000+ slides from back in the 60's and edited out most 
down to a few hundred and need to scan those.


-Original Message-
>From: Paul Stenquist 
>Subject: 1975 Kodachrome
>
>A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
>how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
>more into the racing than the photography back then. 
>
>http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>
>Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
>of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
>for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
>years.



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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Zos Xavius
Looking through these old film scans makes me want to get a MF film
camera even more. Heck a crown graphic would be a lot of fun too. :)

There's something about film that digital can't reproduce. I can't
wait to try my first roll of velvia. :)

On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
>
> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6
> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.
>
>
> bill
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Bill

On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Bill,
I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. 
E-6 was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable.


bill


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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Sorenson
Glad to hear a good report on the scanner. I ordered mine last Wednesday and 
found out Friday that they're out of stock already. Won't be shipped until 
Tuesday.  : > (

-p

Sent from my iPad

On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

> Yes, the scanner is amazingly good. Better than I could have hoped for at 
> that price or even twice as much.
> 
> On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then.
>>> 
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>>> 
>>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>>> twenty or so years.
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>> 
>> ah so  you got it!  .. great scanner isnt it?  My Kodachromes from back then 
>> are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the 
>> ektachromes didn't always fare so well.  My chromes are in boxes in metal 
>> cabinets and some in archival sleeves.
>> 
>> ann
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-24 Thread Paul Stenquist
Yes, the scanner is amazingly good. Better than I could have hoped for at that 
price or even twice as much.

On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> 
> 
> On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. 
>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. 
>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then.
>> 
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>> 
>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. 
>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic 
>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding 
>> twenty or so years.
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
> 
> ah so  you got it!  .. great scanner isnt it?  My Kodachromes from back then 
> are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the 
> ektachromes didn't always fare so well.  My chromes are in boxes in metal 
> cabinets and some in archival sleeves.
> 
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread Zos Xavius
I didn't realize the ektachromes would fade that much. I have seem
ones that were still in ok shape, but were certainly more recent than
the 50s. To fade perfectly clear is pretty awful. Sorry to hear that
actually.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
>> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
>> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
>> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.
>>
> Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading
> problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot
> had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in
> Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection.
> Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had
> terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a
> great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them
> better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide
> shows.
> But I digress.
> The point of this, if I can ever find it
> When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's
> slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape,
> only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the
> Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when
> he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe
> fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to
> the late 1960s.
>
> bill
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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Bill  wrote:
> On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
>>
>> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
>> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
>> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
>> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.
>>
> Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading
> problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot
> had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in
> Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection.
> Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had
> terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a
> great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them
> better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide
> shows.
> But I digress.
> The point of this, if I can ever find it
> When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's
> slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape,
> only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the
> Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when
> he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe
> fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to
> the late 1960s.
>
> bill
>
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RE: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread J.C. O'Connell
Projection is one of the things I miss about film. I used to project
my kodachrome 64 slides to great effect. Today no 16 MP digital 
projectors are even available let alone affordable. A nice ektagraphic
slide projector was only a few hundred bucks. The other benefit was
shooting slides was cheaper than prints...

-
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hifis...@gate.net
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On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:
> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.
>
Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading 
problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a 
lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure 
fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection.
Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had 
terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not 
a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger 
made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable 
boring slide shows.
But I digress.
The point of this, if I can ever find it
When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's 
slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good 
shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of 
the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything 
from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing 
pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from 
the mid 1950s to the late 1960s.

bill

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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote:

A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
more into the racing than the photography back then.

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg

Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
years.

Paul



ah so  you got it!  .. great scanner isnt it?  My Kodachromes from back 
then are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. 
and the ektachromes didn't always fare so well.  My chromes are in boxes 
in metal cabinets and some in archival sleeves.


ann

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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread Bill

On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote:

That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.

Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading 
problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a 
lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure 
fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection.
Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had 
terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not 
a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger 
made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable 
boring slide shows.

But I digress.
The point of this, if I can ever find it
When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's 
slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good 
shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of 
the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything 
from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing 
pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from 
the mid 1950s to the late 1960s.


bill

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Re: 1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread Zos Xavius
That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome
lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The
highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at
digital for so long now. Cool shot btw.

On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
> how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
> more into the racing than the photography back then.
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg
>
> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
> of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
> for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
> years.
>
> Paul
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1975 Kodachrome

2013-02-23 Thread Paul Stenquist
A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed  in the pits. Notice 
how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was 
more into the racing than the photography back then. 

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg

Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most 
of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves 
for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so 
years.

Paul
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