Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Ding a ding dang a dang a long a ding dong. I love that song. Not many people that realize that was gibby haynes completely trashed on vocals. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > >> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. >> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. >> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg >> >> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. >> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic >> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding >> twenty or so years. > > Very cool photo. Very cool car. > > It's funny that for someone that as a kid who spent so many hours drawing > pictures of, and making models, of dragsters I've never drag raced. > > In a bit of coincidence at about the same time as I saw your photo, I was > listening to "Jesus Built my Hotrod" by Ministry: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzPFyeXGEE > > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est > > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
On Feb 23, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice > how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was > more into the racing than the photography back then. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg > > Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most > of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves > for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so > years. Very cool photo. Very cool car. It's funny that for someone that as a kid who spent so many hours drawing pictures of, and making models, of dragsters I've never drag raced. In a bit of coincidence at about the same time as I saw your photo, I was listening to "Jesus Built my Hotrod" by Ministry: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqzPFyeXGEE -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Bill, By 77 the Ektachrome shooting was mine, not Dad's. But the stuff from the 50's and 60's was his and faded. Regards, Bob S. On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Bill wrote: > On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> Bill, >> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff. > > I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6 > was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable. > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Great image, looks like an awesome car. Didn't know you used to race ! The colors on the slide look great - glad the V500 is working out! Mark On 2/23/2013 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so years. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
It was a AA/Fuel funny car. Ran a best quarter mile of 6.37 seconds, 237 mph in 1976. Track promotors billed it as the world's fastest Corvette, which it may have been at the time. Although it wasn't really a Corvette of course. Just looked like one. On Feb 24, 2013, at 12:52 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: > nice documentary shot! > > What class did it run in? > > I recently went thru 25000+ slides from back in the 60's and edited out most > down to a few hundred and need to scan those. > > > -Original Message- >> From: Paul Stenquist >> Subject: 1975 Kodachrome >> >> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. >> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. >> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg >> >> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. >> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic >> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding >> twenty or so years. > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
And of course there's much about digital that film can't reproduce. In the end, I take digital for my serious work, hands down. That said, Ive had a lot of fun with film this week. I have to break out my Speed Graphic some time soon. Paul On Feb 24, 2013, at 11:39 AM, Zos Xavius wrote: > Looking through these old film scans makes me want to get a MF film > camera even more. Heck a crown graphic would be a lot of fun too. :) > > There's something about film that digital can't reproduce. I can't > wait to try my first roll of velvia. :) > > On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bill wrote: >> On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >>> >>> Bill, >>> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff. >> >> I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6 >> was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable. >> >> >> bill >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 1975 Kodachrome
Amen bro -Original Message- >From: "J.C. O'Connell" >Subject: RE: 1975 Kodachrome > >Projection is one of the things I miss about film. I used to project >my kodachrome 64 slides to great effect. Today no 16 MP digital >projectors are even available let alone affordable. A nice ektagraphic >slide projector was only a few hundred bucks. The other benefit was >shooting slides was cheaper than prints... > >- >J.C.O'Connell >hifis...@gate.net >- > >-Original Message- >From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill >Subject: Re: 1975 Kodachrome > >On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome >> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The >> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at >> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. >> >Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading >problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a >lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure >fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. >Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had >terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not >a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger >made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable >boring slide shows. >But I digress. >The point of this, if I can ever find it >When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's >slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good >shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of >the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything >from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing >pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from >the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. > >bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
nice documentary shot! What class did it run in? I recently went thru 25000+ slides from back in the 60's and edited out most down to a few hundred and need to scan those. -Original Message- >From: Paul Stenquist >Subject: 1975 Kodachrome > >A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice >how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was >more into the racing than the photography back then. > >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg > >Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most >of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves >for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so >years. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Looking through these old film scans makes me want to get a MF film camera even more. Heck a crown graphic would be a lot of fun too. :) There's something about film that digital can't reproduce. I can't wait to try my first roll of velvia. :) On Sun, Feb 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Bill wrote: > On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: >> >> Bill, >> I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff. > > I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6 > was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable. > > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
On 23/02/2013 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Bill, I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff. I think it's the E-2 and E-4 process films that are suffering the worst. E-6 was released in 1977, and seems to be quite a bit more stable. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Glad to hear a good report on the scanner. I ordered mine last Wednesday and found out Friday that they're out of stock already. Won't be shipped until Tuesday. : > ( -p Sent from my iPad On Feb 24, 2013, at 6:33 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > Yes, the scanner is amazingly good. Better than I could have hoped for at > that price or even twice as much. > > On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > >> >> >> On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote: >>> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. >>> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. >>> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. >>> >>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg >>> >>> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. >>> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic >>> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding >>> twenty or so years. >>> >>> Paul >>> >> >> ah so you got it! .. great scanner isnt it? My Kodachromes from back then >> are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the >> ektachromes didn't always fare so well. My chromes are in boxes in metal >> cabinets and some in archival sleeves. >> >> ann >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Yes, the scanner is amazingly good. Better than I could have hoped for at that price or even twice as much. On Feb 23, 2013, at 11:15 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > > > On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote: >> A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. >> Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. >> But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. >> >> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg >> >> Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. >> Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic >> sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding >> twenty or so years. >> >> Paul >> > > ah so you got it! .. great scanner isnt it? My Kodachromes from back then > are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the > ektachromes didn't always fare so well. My chromes are in boxes in metal > cabinets and some in archival sleeves. > > ann > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
I didn't realize the ektachromes would fade that much. I have seem ones that were still in ok shape, but were certainly more recent than the 50s. To fade perfectly clear is pretty awful. Sorry to hear that actually. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Bill wrote: > On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome >> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The >> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at >> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. >> > Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading > problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot > had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in > Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. > Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had > terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a > great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them > better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide > shows. > But I digress. > The point of this, if I can ever find it > When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's > slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, > only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the > Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when > he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe > fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to > the late 1960s. > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
Bill, I've seen the same here with my Dad's stuff. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Bill wrote: > On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: >> >> That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome >> lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The >> highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at >> digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. >> > Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading > problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot > had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in > Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. > Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had > terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a > great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them > better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide > shows. > But I digress. > The point of this, if I can ever find it > When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's > slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, > only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the > Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when > he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe > fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to > the late 1960s. > > bill > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: 1975 Kodachrome
Projection is one of the things I miss about film. I used to project my kodachrome 64 slides to great effect. Today no 16 MP digital projectors are even available let alone affordable. A nice ektagraphic slide projector was only a few hundred bucks. The other benefit was shooting slides was cheaper than prints... - J.C.O'Connell hifis...@gate.net - -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Bill Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:15 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: 1975 Kodachrome On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome > lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The > highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at > digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. > Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide shows. But I digress. The point of this, if I can ever find it When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
On 2/23/2013 21:16, Paul Stenquist wrote: A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so years. Paul ah so you got it! .. great scanner isnt it? My Kodachromes from back then are fine as well - lasted better than Agfacrhomes from the 60's. and the ektachromes didn't always fare so well. My chromes are in boxes in metal cabinets and some in archival sleeves. ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
On 23/02/2013 8:40 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. Kodachrome has excellent dark storage stability, but terrible fading problems when exposed to bright light. Kodachromes that were projected a lot had a habit of fading. IIRC, Henry Wilhelm was able to measure fading in Kodachrome after as little as an hour of projection. Ektachrome, OTOH, had much better behaviour when projected, but some had terrible dark storage. My father was an avid slide film shooter, but not a great photographer. Perhaps he thought that projecting them bigger made them better, I don't know. He made us sit through interminable boring slide shows. But I digress. The point of this, if I can ever find it When we cleaned out my parent's house in 2002, I came across my dad's slides, and went through them. All of the Kodachromes were in good shape, only showing what I would consider projection fading. A lot of the Ektachromes, however, had faded completely clear, and everything from when he started shooting Ektachrome in the early 60s was showing pretty severe fading. All the slides I was paying attention to were from the mid 1950s to the late 1960s. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: 1975 Kodachrome
That doesn't look faded in the least. I guess its true. Kodachrome lasts forever. I never liked the color personally though. The highlight retention always surprises me in film after looking at digital for so long now. Cool shot btw. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice > how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was > more into the racing than the photography back then. > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg > > Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most > of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves > for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so > years. > > Paul > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
1975 Kodachrome
A shot of my race car on the jack and ready to be warmed in the pits. Notice how I didn't bother to close the doors on the car hauler behind it. But I was more into the racing than the photography back then. http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=16963159&size=lg Having a lot of fun scanning old transparencies with the new Epson 500V. Most of my Kodachromes are as good as new. They've been stored in plastic sleeves for the last twenty years. In the Kodak boxes for the preceding twenty or so years. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.