Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Norm Baugher
I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking a lot of film 
(before it dies completely) and am actually checking baggage which I 
really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage x-ray machines really 
fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.
Norm

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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Frits Wüthrich
On Wednesday 17 January 2007 22:14, Norm Baugher wrote:
> I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking a lot of film
> (before it dies completely) and am actually checking baggage which I
> really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage x-ray machines really
> fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.
> Norm
it is advised not to check film, as the x-ray machines for checked lugage are 
much more powerfull then for carry-on.
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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Rick Womer
If you check film, it's dead.  Not just fogged--big
exposed stripes from the scanning Xray.

Make room in your carry-on!

Rick

--- Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking
> a lot of film 
> (before it dies completely) and am actually checking
> baggage which I 
> really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage
> x-ray machines really 
> fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.
> Norm
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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Mat Maessen
On 1/17/07, Norm Baugher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking a lot of film
> (before it dies completely) and am actually checking baggage which I
> really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage x-ray machines really
> fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.
> Norm

The checked-baggage machines will fog the film. Take the film in your
carry-on, and either use a lead-lined bag, or have them hand-search it
(this is preferable, but I don't know how to say "please hand-search
this bag" in Italian). It's best if the film is clearly recognizable
as film, in a clear bag, for hand-searching. I used a ziplock bag on
my last trip, inside of a black nylon bag to keep the light off of it.
Take ziplock out of nylon bag at security, hand to security attendant.
Put back in ASAP after checking.

-Mat

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RE: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Bill Owens
Yes, carry your film aboard.

Bill

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I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking a lot of film 
(before it dies completely) and am actually checking baggage which I 
really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage x-ray machines really 
fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.
Norm

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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Norm Baugher
Thanks Bill!

Bill Owens wrote:
> Yes, carry your film aboard.
>
> Bill
>
> From:Norm Baugher
>
> I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking a lot of film 
> (before it dies completely) and am actually checking baggage which I 
> really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage x-ray machines really 
> fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.
> Norm
>
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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Do not put film into checked luggage. There were warning signs about  
this at San Francisco, San Jose, Heathrow, Luton, Douglas and  
Nashville airports on my last two trips.

It is best to carry film in clear plastic sacks, optionally in an  
"XRay Proof bag" as well, and ask (beg) for hand inspection as part  
of carry-on luggage. Carry on luggage scanners are much less likely  
to fog film.

Or buy it at your destination, process it there before flying home.

Godfrey


On Jan 17, 2007, at 1:14 PM, Norm Baugher wrote:

> I'm taking a vacation to Italy next week. I'm taking a lot of film
> (before it dies completely) and am actually checking baggage which I
> really haven't done in the past. Do the baggage x-ray machines really
> fog film? Film is medium format Plus-X.


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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Norm Baugher
Well, since film is dead, I'm not sure I could find it...  :)
Norm

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> Or buy it at your destination, process it there before flying home.
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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Cotty
On 17/1/07, Rick Womer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>If you check film, it's dead.

It's dead if you don't check it .



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RE: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Bob W
Film is not dead it Italy. It sleeps with the fishes.

Best to check as soon as possible what the rules are about film in
hand-luggage nowadays. If they are against you then Godfrey's advice
is best. You should be able to find out before leaving where you can
buy the film, and perhaps order it by email to be ready to pick up
when you arrive.

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> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Norm Baugher
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> Well, since film is dead, I'm not sure I could find it...  :)
> Norm
> 
> Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> > Or buy it at your destination, process it there before flying
home.
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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread skye
Will an Xray-proof bag work in checked luggage or not? Thanks,

--skye

On 1/17/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do not put film into checked luggage. There were warning signs about
> this at San Francisco, San Jose, Heathrow, Luton, Douglas and
> Nashville airports on my last two trips.
>
> It is best to carry film in clear plastic sacks, optionally in an
> "XRay Proof bag" as well, and ask (beg) for hand inspection as part
> of carry-on luggage. Carry on luggage scanners are much less likely
> to fog film.

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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Gabriel Cain
skye wrote:
> Will an Xray-proof bag work in checked luggage or not? Thanks,

No, they'll either turn up the x-rays until it DOES work, or pull your bag
for extra inspection.  Clear zip-lock through carry-on is by far the safest
way for your film.  135 should be out of the film cans, and 120/220 in its
normal way.  As another poster commented, keeping that zip-lock in a black
bag would be prudent.

Gabriel

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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread skye
On 1/17/07, Gabriel Cain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> skye wrote:
> > Will an Xray-proof bag work in checked luggage or not? Thanks,
>
> No, they'll either turn up the x-rays until it DOES work, or pull your bag
> for extra inspection.  Clear zip-lock through carry-on is by far the safest
> way for your film.  135 should be out of the film cans, and 120/220 in its
> normal way.  As another poster commented, keeping that zip-lock in a black
> bag would be prudent.
>
> Gabriel
>

Ah, *now* I get it. Thanks,

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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
They'll usually tell you that up to 400 or 800 ISO is OK to run through 
the carry-on scanner, so I usually throw a roll of 1600 in the bag, tell 
the screener and ask (plead) to have it hand checked.

-P

skye wrote:
> On 1/17/07, Gabriel Cain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> skye wrote:
>>> Will an Xray-proof bag work in checked luggage or not? Thanks,
>> No, they'll either turn up the x-rays until it DOES work, or pull your bag
>> for extra inspection.  Clear zip-lock through carry-on is by far the safest
>> way for your film.  135 should be out of the film cans, and 120/220 in its
>> normal way.  As another poster commented, keeping that zip-lock in a black
>> bag would be prudent.
>>
>> Gabriel
>>
> 
> Ah, *now* I get it. Thanks,
> 
> --skye
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Re: Airport X-ray Advice

2007-01-17 Thread Christian
Paul Sorenson wrote:
> They'll usually tell you that up to 400 or 800 ISO is OK to run through 
> the carry-on scanner, so I usually throw a roll of 1600 in the bag, tell 
> the screener and ask (plead) to have it hand checked.

Right after 9/11 I left BWI (the country's lowest rated major airport 
for everything at the time) and asked for my Velvia to be hand checked. 
  They had no issue at all.  Didn't even question it.  I had it out of 
the containers and in a ziplock bag, so it was easy for me to pull it 
out of the camera bag quickly and request the hand check for my 
"Professional" film.  Really it was a pleasant experience.

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