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With the new monitor I can read PDML side by side with watching John Coyles slide show. I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog while I'm reading the list and writing this and everything's legible without overlapping windows - well this composition window overlaps the list right this second ... but as soon as I hit send. ;-D - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082352-REG/sandisk_sdsdxp_512g_a46_512gb_extreme_pro_uhs_i.html Would this be supported in the K-3? I looked through the manual, but I didn't find anything that told me if there was a maximum capacity the K-3 could support. It just says: *SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, and SDXC Memory card. *Eye-Fi Card *Flucard compatible with this camera Not affordable now, but the price will inevitably fall into reasonable territory some day. Sixty-four GB cards are under $100 now-a-days. I'm actually thinking in terms of what capacity cards I am theoretically going to want sometime near the end of the year 2015. By then I hope to have a Pentax DSLR that could use that kind of capacity. If memory serves, the first CF card I bought for my *ist-D back in early 2004 was 256MB & cost something around $100. Within 6 months the first affordable (i.e. < $100) 1GB cards were available from B&H. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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My first computer had a 1.2 GB Hard Disk. the 2nd had 20 GB, upgraded to 80 GB. The 3rd had 170 GB . and now I have 1 TB on my 4K Laptop. The same goes for camera memory cards. I now use 64 GB Extreme SanDisk Cards. That thinking is now redundant - that one should have 4 X 16 GB Cards as an insurance against failure. Better technology, Recovery software, Backup facilities etc has given us the courage to go for higher capacity memory cards. We do not want to be left behind in the technology race as the world advances by leaps and bounds. As a PDMLer rightly mentioned, camera sensors are being released with 24 MP, 50 MP, 70 MP . ad valorem. And that video, my God, takes up over 200 MB in just one minute. Regards. Bipin -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms wrote: With the new monitor I can read PDML side by side with watching John Coyles slide show. I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog while I'm reading the list and writing this and everything's legible without overlapping windows - well this composition window overlaps the list right this second ... but as soon as I hit send. ;-D - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 You sound as happy as a pig in... well, you know :-) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sounds like you're enjoying yourself, John. Be sure to get up and walk around occasionally. ;-) -Original Message- From: John Sessoms Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:29:40 To: Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: And another thing ... With the new monitor I can read PDML side by side with watching John Coyles slide show. I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog while I'm reading the list and writing this and everything's legible without overlapping windows - well this composition window overlaps the list right this second ... but as soon as I hit send. ;-D - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Ann Sanfedele John Sessoms wrote: > With the new monitor I can read PDML side by side with watching John > Coyles slide show. > > I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog while I'm > reading the list and writing this and everything's legible without > overlapping windows - well this composition window overlaps the list > right this second ... but as soon as I hit send. ;-D > You sound as happy as a pig in... well, you know :-) ann Yea-up! You'll have to imagine the mid-western accent, my hands clutching the suspenders on my denim overalls, the floppy brim hat and straw hanging out of the corner of my mouth. Plain text isn't the best medium for sound effects. From: drdx...@gmail.com Sounds like you're enjoying yourself, John. Be sure to get up and walk around occasionally. ;-) It's like Christmas morning around here. I know it won't last, but I'm enjoying it. Hasn't done a thing for my reading comprehension level. There's a comment on Frank's subway photo in another thread, something about "knowledge of the two Bobs" ... and right away, I'm back on Frank's Blog going "Boobs? What boobs? There ain't no boobs in this picture!" Note to self: Coffee first, then PDML. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3380 - Release Date: 01/14/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 7:28 AM, John Sessoms wrote: > ... and right away, I'm back on Frank's Blog going "Boobs? What boobs? There > ain't no boobs in this picture!" Wha? Huh? I need another cup of coffee... cheers, frank -- "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept." -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It's too bad that multitasking leads to brain rot... --- On Fri, 1/14/11, John Sessoms wrote: > With the new monitor I can read PDML > side by side with watching John Coyles slide show. > > I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog > while I'm reading the list and writing this and everything's > legible without overlapping windows - well this composition > window overlaps the list right this second ... but as soon > as I hit send. ;-D > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release > Date: 01/14/11 > > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 8:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: > With the new monitor I can read PDML side by side with watching John Coyles > slide show. > > I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog while I'm reading > the list and writing this and everything's legible without overlapping > windows - well this composition window overlaps the list right this second > ... but as soon as I hit send. ;-D I have now gone from a 13" laptop to a 21.5" iMac screen. I'm in s^&t to.:-) No more squinting. Dave > > > - > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3379 - Release Date: 01/14/11 > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2011/1/15 David J Brooks : > > I have now gone from a 13" laptop to a 21.5" iMac screen. I'm in s^&t > to.:-) No more squinting. I'm about to go the other way for a while. As soon as I have my own desk somewhere again (hopefully before year's end) I'll get a port replicator and something like the ZR22w or ZR24w people have been mentioning. For now a laptop plus laptray pillow is a huge step up from borrowed time on someone else's box. Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Sessoms wrote: From: Ann Sanfedele John Sessoms wrote: > With the new monitor I can read PDML side by side with watching John > Coyles slide show. > > I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog while I'm > reading the list and writing this and everything's legible without > overlapping windows - well this composition window overlaps the list > right this second ... but as soon as I hit send. ;-D You sound as happy as a pig in... well, you know :-) ann Yea-up! You'll have to imagine the mid-western accent, my hands clutching the suspenders on my denim overalls, the floppy brim hat and straw hanging out of the corner of my mouth. Plain text isn't the best medium for sound effects. Did I mention how much I like plain text? :-) ann ducks -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Rick Womer It's too bad that multitasking leads to brain rot... --- On Fri, 1/14/11, John Sessoms wrote: > With the new monitor I can read PDML > side by side with watching John Coyles slide show. > > I'm scrolling through Cristine's review on Miserere's blog > while I'm reading the list and writing this and everything's > legible without overlapping windows - well this composition > window overlaps the list right this second ... but as soon > as I hit send.? ;-D Fortunately there's also a built in level so I'll be able to drool equally from both sides of my mouth. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1191 / Virus Database: 1435/3382 - Release Date: 01/15/11 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John, I think you'd probably fry the camera trying to load this up with one continuous video. That's the memory size I'm using in this laptop! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:19 PM, John wrote: > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082352-REG/sandisk_sdsdxp_512g_a46_512gb_extreme_pro_uhs_i.html > > Would this be supported in the K-3? I looked through the manual, but I > didn't find anything that told me if there was a maximum capacity the > K-3 could support. > > It just says: > > *SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, and SDXC Memory card. > *Eye-Fi Card > *Flucard compatible with this camera > > Not affordable now, but the price will inevitably fall into reasonable > territory some day. Sixty-four GB cards are under $100 now-a-days. > > I'm actually thinking in terms of what capacity cards I am theoretically > going to want sometime near the end of the year 2015. By then I hope to > have a Pentax DSLR that could use that kind of capacity. > > If memory serves, the first CF card I bought for my *ist-D back in early > 2004 was 256MB & cost something around $100. Within 6 months the first > affordable (i.e. < $100) 1GB cards were available from B&H. > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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If it supports the SDXC standard, which it does, it should work in the K-3. That's an awful lot of memory. My current stable of cards are two Class 10 8gb one class 10 16gb and assorted 1, 2 and 4gb class 4 cards "just in case", I don't think I'd need all of them if I shot a wedding. I seldom fill one of the 8gb cards let alone the 16 with the K-5II recording in RAW. I suppose you might need that much if you were shooting a lot of movies... On 4/7/2015 2:19 PM, John wrote: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082352-REG/sandisk_sdsdxp_512g_a46_512gb_extreme_pro_uhs_i.html Would this be supported in the K-3? I looked through the manual, but I didn't find anything that told me if there was a maximum capacity the K-3 could support. It just says: *SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, and SDXC Memory card. *Eye-Fi Card *Flucard compatible with this camera Not affordable now, but the price will inevitably fall into reasonable territory some day. Sixty-four GB cards are under $100 now-a-days. I'm actually thinking in terms of what capacity cards I am theoretically going to want sometime near the end of the year 2015. By then I hope to have a Pentax DSLR that could use that kind of capacity. If memory serves, the first CF card I bought for my *ist-D back in early 2004 was 256MB & cost something around $100. Within 6 months the first affordable (i.e. < $100) 1GB cards were available from B&H. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P.J. Alling wrote: > If it supports the SDXC standard, which it does, it should work in the > K-3. That's an awful lot of memory. My current stable of cards are > two Class 10 8gb one class 10 16gb and assorted 1, 2 and 4gb class 4 > cards "just in case", I don't think I'd need all of them if I shot a > wedding. > I seldom fill one of the 8gb cards let alone the 16 with the K-5II > recording in RAW. I suppose you might need that much if you were > shooting a lot of movies... That is one huge memory card. However, with Nikon's 36 megapixel & Canon's 50 megapixel cameras + whatever the full frame Pentax DSLR turns out to be, I suppose that's the direction we are heading in for memory card size. How long before someone offers a 100 megapixel DSLR sensor - 5 years or less? Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ya, that's a numbing thought. Everything I own will have to be upgraded to LARGER! Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: > P.J. Alling wrote: > >> If it supports the SDXC standard, which it does, it should work in the >> K-3. That's an awful lot of memory. My current stable of cards are >> two Class 10 8gb one class 10 16gb and assorted 1, 2 and 4gb class 4 >> cards "just in case", I don't think I'd need all of them if I shot a >> wedding. >> I seldom fill one of the 8gb cards let alone the 16 with the K-5II >> recording in RAW. I suppose you might need that much if you were >> shooting a lot of movies... > > That is one huge memory card. > > However, with Nikon's 36 megapixel & Canon's 50 megapixel cameras + whatever > the full frame Pentax DSLR turns out to be, I suppose that's the direction > we are heading in for memory card size. How long before someone offers a 100 > megapixel DSLR sensor - 5 years or less? > > Malcolm > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I currently have 3-32GB cards for the K-3, 8-8GB cards for the K-20D, 10-4GB cards for the K-10D and I think 4-4GB CF cards + 6-2GB CF cards for the *ist-D. I like having lots of spare cards under the dictum of "Don't put all your eggs ..." I don't shoot video - I think I did about 4 seconds right after I got the K-3 just to see how it works - but I'm still struggling to master still photography. Video can wait until I've got that down pat. On 4/7/2015 2:38 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: If it supports the SDXC standard, which it does, it should work in the K-3. That's an awful lot of memory. My current stable of cards are two Class 10 8gb one class 10 16gb and assorted 1, 2 and 4gb class 4 cards "just in case", I don't think I'd need all of them if I shot a wedding. I seldom fill one of the 8gb cards let alone the 16 with the K-5II recording in RAW. I suppose you might need that much if you were shooting a lot of movies... On 4/7/2015 2:19 PM, John wrote: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1082352-REG/sandisk_sdsdxp_512g_a46_512gb_extreme_pro_uhs_i.html Would this be supported in the K-3? I looked through the manual, but I didn't find anything that told me if there was a maximum capacity the K-3 could support. It just says: *SD Memory Card, SDHC Memory Card, and SDXC Memory card. *Eye-Fi Card *Flucard compatible with this camera Not affordable now, but the price will inevitably fall into reasonable territory some day. Sixty-four GB cards are under $100 now-a-days. I'm actually thinking in terms of what capacity cards I am theoretically going to want sometime near the end of the year 2015. By then I hope to have a Pentax DSLR that could use that kind of capacity. If memory serves, the first CF card I bought for my *ist-D back in early 2004 was 256MB & cost something around $100. Within 6 months the first affordable (i.e. < $100) 1GB cards were available from B&H. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4/7/2015 2:58 PM, Malcolm Smith wrote: P.J. Alling wrote: If it supports the SDXC standard, which it does, it should work in the K-3. That's an awful lot of memory. My current stable of cards are two Class 10 8gb one class 10 16gb and assorted 1, 2 and 4gb class 4 cards "just in case", I don't think I'd need all of them if I shot a wedding. I seldom fill one of the 8gb cards let alone the 16 with the K-5II recording in RAW. I suppose you might need that much if you were shooting a lot of movies... That is one huge memory card. However, with Nikon's 36 megapixel & Canon's 50 megapixel cameras + whatever the full frame Pentax DSLR turns out to be, I suppose that's the direction we are heading in for memory card size. How long before someone offers a 100 megapixel DSLR sensor - 5 years or less? Malcolm Phase One already has an 80MP camera; Canon is supposed to have a 75+MP camera in the works. Both of those will probably use the CF version of the card, but I figure the competition won't be that far behind. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John Be wary of very large card capacity. Shooting professionally, would never go above 16 or 32 GB cards - they can go wrong! I'm away shooting video for a week on a sailing yacht and will be taking a series of 16GB cards with me, probably get through one a day I'm guessing. YMMV -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How safe is safe enough? If we have airbags, do we really need seat belts as well? Nomex suit? Roll cage? Helmet? How far do we need to go to protect ourselves? For me, I am willing to assume that 2nd-3rd generation 64GB SD cards are just as reliable as 3rd-4th generation 32GB cards as 4th-5th generation 16GB cards etc. So once the initial production of a new bigger better faster card has passed, I don’t get too concerned about card failure. But still, maybe someday just possibly it might happen. On the other hand, changing cards on a rainy windy day on the beachfront or next to a jungle waterfall or aboard a racing yacht creates its own potential for problems not only with the card but also with the camera. So, to avoid opening up the camera in inclement conditions, I judge “required” capacity by # of images rather than GB. I usually have two cameras and alternate shots. Long ago one body had color print, the other B&W or color slides. More recently the one body had a wider lens, the other had a longer lens. Now the two bodies I am using yield a somewhat different look and feel, but I’ve still tended to use one for wider shots, the other for longer shots. The key though is that by using two bodies, even if I have a card failure I have not lost everything from that time period. With my K-3 I use 32GB cards which provides a nominal capacity of about 560 images plus that many more on the 2nd card. So I can usually get through a day on one card and the 32GB in the 2nd card slot gives me a 100% margin. With the 645z I have a 64GB in the first slot which gives a nominal capacity of 600 images, plus 250-300 nominal on the 32GB in the second slot. So again I can get through a day on one card with a 50% margin with the 2nd card. If/when I get a camera with larger files (or if I find myself shooting drastically more frames per day) I will move on up to larger cards as needed to keep me in that range of one-days-worth of images-per-card. If I were shooting professionally (= many more shots per day, also = higher cost of losing the images on a card), I would probably opt to stay with this same card-capacity and accept the need to occasionally change cards in the middle of the day. stan On Apr 8, 2015, at 2:11 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > John > > Be wary of very large card capacity. Shooting professionally, would > never go above 16 or 32 GB cards - they can go wrong! > > I'm away shooting video for a week on a sailing yacht and will be taking > a series of 16GB cards with me, probably get through one a day I'm guessing. > > YMMV > > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8/4/15, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >How safe is safe enough? If we have airbags, do we really need seat >belts as well? Nomex suit? Roll cage? Helmet? How far do we need to go >to protect ourselves? You're still sore I reckon about my Pentax FF order ;-))) Points taken. I'm shooting video, and on the particular camera I'm using, a 16GB card will give about 50 mins of screen time. I think in general, my approach is to minimise risk of loss and inconvenience due to hardware or software failure. I've decided that spreading the risk out over more cards is the way I play it. I also record onto 2 cards simultaneously, so a backup is made as I go. It's not that I don't trust the technology, it's just that I don't trust the technology. >For me, I am willing to assume that 2nd-3rd generation 64GB SD cards are >just as reliable as 3rd-4th generation 32GB cards as 4th-5th generation >16GB cards etc. So once the initial production of a new bigger better >faster card has passed, I don't get too concerned about card failure. >But still, maybe someday just possibly it might happen. On the other >hand, changing cards on a rainy windy day on the beachfront or next to a >jungle waterfall or aboard a racing yacht creates its own potential for >problems not only with the card but also with the camera. > >So, to avoid opening up the camera in inclement conditions, I judge >"required" capacity by # of images rather than GB. > >I usually have two cameras and alternate shots. Long ago one body had >color print, the other B&W or color slides. More recently the one body >had a wider lens, the other had a longer lens. Now the two bodies I am >using yield a somewhat different look and feel, but I've still tended to >use one for wider shots, the other for longer shots. The key though is >that by using two bodies, even if I have a card failure I have not lost >everything from that time period. > >With my K-3 I use 32GB cards which provides a nominal capacity of about >560 images plus that many more on the 2nd card. So I can usually get >through a day on one card and the 32GB in the 2nd card slot gives me a >100% margin. With the 645z I have a 64GB in the first slot which gives a >nominal capacity of 600 images, plus 250-300 nominal on the 32GB in the >second slot. So again I can get through a day on one card with a 50% >margin with the 2nd card. If/when I get a camera with larger files (or >if I find myself shooting drastically more frames per day) I will move >on up to larger cards as needed to keep me in that range of one-days- >worth of images-per-card. If I were shooting professionally (= many more >shots per day, also = higher cost of losing the images on a card), I >would probably opt to stay with this same card-capacity and accept the >need to occasionally change cards in the middle of the day. Sounds like a good system. I take it you've never had a card fail? If you had, and you were being paid good daily rates for your shooting, I wonder would you do things differently? Just curious. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At the same time, consider that not very long ago, 16 or 32 GB cards used to BE those very large capacity cards you're supposed to be wary of. On 4/8/2015 2:11 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: John Be wary of very large card capacity. Shooting professionally, would never go above 16 or 32 GB cards - they can go wrong! I'm away shooting video for a week on a sailing yacht and will be taking a series of 16GB cards with me, probably get through one a day I'm guessing. YMMV -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 8/4/15, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> How safe is safe enough? If we have airbags, do we really need seat >> belts as well? Nomex suit? Roll cage? Helmet? How far do we need to go >> to protect ourselves? > > You're still sore I reckon about my Pentax FF order ;-))) Early on the 1st I had received a Woodworking Newsletter which contained the following link: http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/plans/featured-free-plans/ (Good reading, particularly if you need a pallet or some sawdust.) So I was already on the alert for anything out of the ordinary. > > Points taken. > > I'm shooting video, and on the particular camera I'm using, a 16GB card > will give about 50 mins of screen time. I think in general, my approach > is to minimise risk of loss and inconvenience due to hardware or > software failure. I've decided that spreading the risk out over more > cards is the way I play it. I also record onto 2 cards simultaneously, > so a backup is made as I go. > > It's not that I don't trust the technology, it's just that I don't trust > the technology. > > >> For me, I am willing to assume that 2nd-3rd generation 64GB SD cards are >> just as reliable as 3rd-4th generation 32GB cards as 4th-5th generation >> 16GB cards etc. So once the initial production of a new bigger better >> faster card has passed, I don't get too concerned about card failure. >> But still, maybe someday just possibly it might happen. On the other >> hand, changing cards on a rainy windy day on the beachfront or next to a >> jungle waterfall or aboard a racing yacht creates its own potential for >> problems not only with the card but also with the camera. >> >> So, to avoid opening up the camera in inclement conditions, I judge >> "required" capacity by # of images rather than GB. >> >> I usually have two cameras and alternate shots. Long ago one body had >> color print, the other B&W or color slides. More recently the one body >> had a wider lens, the other had a longer lens. Now the two bodies I am >> using yield a somewhat different look and feel, but I've still tended to >> use one for wider shots, the other for longer shots. The key though is >> that by using two bodies, even if I have a card failure I have not lost >> everything from that time period. >> >> With my K-3 I use 32GB cards which provides a nominal capacity of about >> 560 images plus that many more on the 2nd card. So I can usually get >> through a day on one card and the 32GB in the 2nd card slot gives me a >> 100% margin. With the 645z I have a 64GB in the first slot which gives a >> nominal capacity of 600 images, plus 250-300 nominal on the 32GB in the >> second slot. So again I can get through a day on one card with a 50% >> margin with the 2nd card. If/when I get a camera with larger files (or >> if I find myself shooting drastically more frames per day) I will move >> on up to larger cards as needed to keep me in that range of one-days- >> worth of images-per-card. If I were shooting professionally (= many more >> shots per day, also = higher cost of losing the images on a card), I >> would probably opt to stay with this same card-capacity and accept the >> need to occasionally change cards in the middle of the day. > > Sounds like a good system. > > I take it you've never had a card fail? I have damaged one of the thin metal contacts on one card through fumble fingered poor insertion into a card reader. I was able to fix the card well enough to read it; I then threw it away. I’ve never had any other failure that I can recall. I vaguely recall there might have been one instance where I tried to chimp after three or four images at the start of the day, was surprised to find that no images had been recorded. So I threw that one away. > If you had, and you were being > paid good daily rates for your shooting, I wonder would you do things > differently? Just curious. > > I would probably make the same sort of choices you have. If I were doing this professionally, “getting and keeping the shot” would become far more important than worrying about possible damage to the camera which might result from card changes in field conditions. I would strongly prefer bodies that afforded two card slots that could be configured to write original to one, duplicate backup to the second. If I could not get that sort of realtime backup I might use smaller cards. There is another tradeoff there. The more small cards you use, the more you increase the odds that you will have a bad card. If you use one or a few large cards, the odds are better that it/they won’t fail but a failure would be much more painful. BTW, I don’t know if it really makes any difference but I have never or at least hardly ever used anything than a genuine Sandisk card. I do tend to trust the technology, I believe that SD failure rate is low enough that I won’t spend much energy worrying about it, but on
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On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > My first computer had a 1.2 GB Hard Disk. My first computer had 48 K of memory, and NO hard drive. When you turned it off, everything you had done disappeared. I plugged a cassette tape recorder into it to save my basic and Pascal programs, but that worked only about 30% of the time. No monitor either; I plugged it into my TV set, and it displayed text only and then only in all caps. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4/8/2015 2:03 PM, Stanley Halpin wrote: On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 8/4/15, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: How safe is safe enough? If we have airbags, do we really need seat belts as well? Nomex suit? Roll cage? Helmet? How far do we need to go to protect ourselves? You're still sore I reckon about my Pentax FF order ;-))) Early on the 1st I had received a Woodworking Newsletter which contained the following link: http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/plans/featured-free-plans/ (Good reading, particularly if you need a pallet or some sawdust.) So I was already on the alert for anything out of the ordinary. Mein Gott, they want my email to look at their joke. Points taken. I'm shooting video, and on the particular camera I'm using, a 16GB card will give about 50 mins of screen time. I think in general, my approach is to minimise risk of loss and inconvenience due to hardware or software failure. I've decided that spreading the risk out over more cards is the way I play it. I also record onto 2 cards simultaneously, so a backup is made as I go. It's not that I don't trust the technology, it's just that I don't trust the technology. For me, I am willing to assume that 2nd-3rd generation 64GB SD cards are just as reliable as 3rd-4th generation 32GB cards as 4th-5th generation 16GB cards etc. So once the initial production of a new bigger better faster card has passed, I don't get too concerned about card failure. But still, maybe someday just possibly it might happen. On the other hand, changing cards on a rainy windy day on the beachfront or next to a jungle waterfall or aboard a racing yacht creates its own potential for problems not only with the card but also with the camera. So, to avoid opening up the camera in inclement conditions, I judge "required" capacity by # of images rather than GB. I usually have two cameras and alternate shots. Long ago one body had color print, the other B&W or color slides. More recently the one body had a wider lens, the other had a longer lens. Now the two bodies I am using yield a somewhat different look and feel, but I've still tended to use one for wider shots, the other for longer shots. The key though is that by using two bodies, even if I have a card failure I have not lost everything from that time period. With my K-3 I use 32GB cards which provides a nominal capacity of about 560 images plus that many more on the 2nd card. So I can usually get through a day on one card and the 32GB in the 2nd card slot gives me a 100% margin. With the 645z I have a 64GB in the first slot which gives a nominal capacity of 600 images, plus 250-300 nominal on the 32GB in the second slot. So again I can get through a day on one card with a 50% margin with the 2nd card. If/when I get a camera with larger files (or if I find myself shooting drastically more frames per day) I will move on up to larger cards as needed to keep me in that range of one-days- worth of images-per-card. If I were shooting professionally (= many more shots per day, also = higher cost of losing the images on a card), I would probably opt to stay with this same card-capacity and accept the need to occasionally change cards in the middle of the day. Sounds like a good system. I take it you've never had a card fail? I have damaged one of the thin metal contacts on one card through fumble fingered poor insertion into a card reader. I was able to fix the card well enough to read it; I then threw it away. I’ve never had any other failure that I can recall. I vaguely recall there might have been one instance where I tried to chimp after three or four images at the start of the day, was surprised to find that no images had been recorded. So I threw that one away. If you had, and you were being paid good daily rates for your shooting, I wonder would you do things differently? Just curious. I would probably make the same sort of choices you have. If I were doing this professionally, “getting and keeping the shot” would become far more important than worrying about possible damage to the camera which might result from card changes in field conditions. I would strongly prefer bodies that afforded two card slots that could be configured to write original to one, duplicate backup to the second. If I could not get that sort of realtime backup I might use smaller cards. There is another tradeoff there. The more small cards you use, the more you increase the odds that you will have a bad card. If you use one or a few large cards, the odds are better that it/they won’t fail but a failure would be much more painful. BTW, I don’t know if it really makes any difference but I have never or at least hardly ever used anything than a genuine Sandisk card. I do tend to trust the technology, I believe that SD failure rate is low enough that I won’t spend much energy worrying about it, but on the other hand I am going to maximize my chances of bein
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Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:00:13 -0700 wrote: On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: > My first computer had a 1.2 GB Hard Disk. My first computer had 48 K of memory, and NO hard drive. When you turned it off, everything you had done disappeared. I plugged a cassette tape recorder into it to save my basic and Pascal programs, but that worked only about 30% of the time. No monitor either; I plugged it into my TV set, and it displayed text only and then only in all caps. Dan, I just was able to recall what was the first computer I've used in my life (not counting a calculator): Electronica D3-28. It had 32 Kb RAM, no HDD or floppy. It had a tape recorder built-in, which may or may not read out what you had recorded, and it would depend on temperature, humidity, tape... So, for the most important things, you'd better have a few different copies. Here is how it looked (found it on Wikipedia): http://goo.gl/uxxHLP Cheers, Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've never had an issue with the electronics, however I have had two cards, both Sandisk, have their cases split, and the little write protect tab* got lost so both became read only. That wouldn't have been bad if I wanted them to be read only... In the *ist-Ds I was able to put tape over the write protect slot and use the cards, that didn't work the the K20D the tolerances were too tight and I couldn't insert the taped cards into the SD card slot. I suppose I could have tried to take advantage of the Sandisk lifetime guarantee but replacements were less than $10.00 each, for much higher capacity cards, at the time and it wasn't worth $20.00 of hassle to get replacements. Since then I switched to PNY cards, they also have a lifetime warranty that I'll probably never bother to take advantage of either, if they fail. They're a bit slower writing than the Sandisk, in any class, but they cost 1/3 to 1/2 less for equivalent capacity cards and really I've never noticed a difference. After all I shoot Pentax... *I still wonder who thought it was a good idea to incorporate, in an advanced memory storage device, a write protect feature used in floppy disks? On 4/8/2015 11:22 PM, Ken Waller wrote: FWIW Never yet, in 12 years of shooting digital have I had an issue related to memory cards, all SanDisk btw, either CF or SD. I snap the shutter, an image is recorded and I work on the image. Not so with film, in 37 years shooting film I've had numerous issues which related to no image capture - such as when getting to the end of a roll of 36 exposures, and going beyond to say 40 indicated images as indicated on the camera and then realizing that the film was not properly engaged in the take up spool. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin" Subject: Re: ... and another thing! On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 8/4/15, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: How safe is safe enough? If we have airbags, do we really need seat belts as well? Nomex suit? Roll cage? Helmet? How far do we need to go to protect ourselves? You're still sore I reckon about my Pentax FF order ;-))) Early on the 1st I had received a Woodworking Newsletter which contained the following link: http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/plans/featured-free-plans/ (Good reading, particularly if you need a pallet or some sawdust.) So I was already on the alert for anything out of the ordinary. Points taken. I'm shooting video, and on the particular camera I'm using, a 16GB card will give about 50 mins of screen time. I think in general, my approach is to minimise risk of loss and inconvenience due to hardware or software failure. I've decided that spreading the risk out over more cards is the way I play it. I also record onto 2 cards simultaneously, so a backup is made as I go. It's not that I don't trust the technology, it's just that I don't trust the technology. For me, I am willing to assume that 2nd-3rd generation 64GB SD cards are just as reliable as 3rd-4th generation 32GB cards as 4th-5th generation 16GB cards etc. So once the initial production of a new bigger better faster card has passed, I don't get too concerned about card failure. But still, maybe someday just possibly it might happen. On the other hand, changing cards on a rainy windy day on the beachfront or next to a jungle waterfall or aboard a racing yacht creates its own potential for problems not only with the card but also with the camera. So, to avoid opening up the camera in inclement conditions, I judge "required" capacity by # of images rather than GB. I usually have two cameras and alternate shots. Long ago one body had color print, the other B&W or color slides. More recently the one body had a wider lens, the other had a longer lens. Now the two bodies I am using yield a somewhat different look and feel, but I've still tended to use one for wider shots, the other for longer shots. The key though is that by using two bodies, even if I have a card failure I have not lost everything from that time period. With my K-3 I use 32GB cards which provides a nominal capacity of about 560 images plus that many more on the 2nd card. So I can usually get through a day on one card and the 32GB in the 2nd card slot gives me a 100% margin. With the 645z I have a 64GB in the first slot which gives a nominal capacity of 600 images, plus 250-300 nominal on the 32GB in the second slot. So again I can get through a day on one card with a 50% margin with the 2nd card. If/when I get a camera with larger files (or if I find myself shooting drastically more frames per day) I will move on up to larger cards as needed to keep me in that range of one-days- worth of images-per-card. If I were shooting professionally (= man
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FWIW Never yet, in 12 years of shooting digital have I had an issue related to memory cards, all SanDisk btw, either CF or SD. I snap the shutter, an image is recorded and I work on the image. Not so with film, in 37 years shooting film I've had numerous issues which related to no image capture - such as when getting to the end of a roll of 36 exposures, and going beyond to say 40 indicated images as indicated on the camera and then realizing that the film was not properly engaged in the take up spool. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Stanley Halpin" Subject: Re: ... and another thing! On Apr 8, 2015, at 12:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 8/4/15, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: How safe is safe enough? If we have airbags, do we really need seat belts as well? Nomex suit? Roll cage? Helmet? How far do we need to go to protect ourselves? You're still sore I reckon about my Pentax FF order ;-))) Early on the 1st I had received a Woodworking Newsletter which contained the following link: http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/plans/featured-free-plans/ (Good reading, particularly if you need a pallet or some sawdust.) So I was already on the alert for anything out of the ordinary. Points taken. I'm shooting video, and on the particular camera I'm using, a 16GB card will give about 50 mins of screen time. I think in general, my approach is to minimise risk of loss and inconvenience due to hardware or software failure. I've decided that spreading the risk out over more cards is the way I play it. I also record onto 2 cards simultaneously, so a backup is made as I go. It's not that I don't trust the technology, it's just that I don't trust the technology. For me, I am willing to assume that 2nd-3rd generation 64GB SD cards are just as reliable as 3rd-4th generation 32GB cards as 4th-5th generation 16GB cards etc. So once the initial production of a new bigger better faster card has passed, I don't get too concerned about card failure. But still, maybe someday just possibly it might happen. On the other hand, changing cards on a rainy windy day on the beachfront or next to a jungle waterfall or aboard a racing yacht creates its own potential for problems not only with the card but also with the camera. So, to avoid opening up the camera in inclement conditions, I judge "required" capacity by # of images rather than GB. I usually have two cameras and alternate shots. Long ago one body had color print, the other B&W or color slides. More recently the one body had a wider lens, the other had a longer lens. Now the two bodies I am using yield a somewhat different look and feel, but I've still tended to use one for wider shots, the other for longer shots. The key though is that by using two bodies, even if I have a card failure I have not lost everything from that time period. With my K-3 I use 32GB cards which provides a nominal capacity of about 560 images plus that many more on the 2nd card. So I can usually get through a day on one card and the 32GB in the 2nd card slot gives me a 100% margin. With the 645z I have a 64GB in the first slot which gives a nominal capacity of 600 images, plus 250-300 nominal on the 32GB in the second slot. So again I can get through a day on one card with a 50% margin with the 2nd card. If/when I get a camera with larger files (or if I find myself shooting drastically more frames per day) I will move on up to larger cards as needed to keep me in that range of one-days- worth of images-per-card. If I were shooting professionally (= many more shots per day, also = higher cost of losing the images on a card), I would probably opt to stay with this same card-capacity and accept the need to occasionally change cards in the middle of the day. Sounds like a good system. I take it you've never had a card fail? I have damaged one of the thin metal contacts on one card through fumble fingered poor insertion into a card reader. I was able to fix the card well enough to read it; I then threw it away. I’ve never had any other failure that I can recall. I vaguely recall there might have been one instance where I tried to chimp after three or four images at the start of the day, was surprised to find that no images had been recorded. So I threw that one away. If you had, and you were being paid good daily rates for your shooting, I wonder would you do things differently? Just curious. I would probably make the same sort of choices you have. If I were doing this professionally, “getting and keeping the shot” would become far more important than worrying about possible damage to the camera which might result from card changes in field conditions. I would strongly prefer bodies that afforded two card slots that could be configured to write original to one, duplicate backup to th
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On 8/4/15, Stanley Halpin, discombobulated, unleashed: >There is another tradeoff there. The more small cards you use, the more >you increase the odds that you will have a bad card. If you use one or a >few large cards, the odds are better that it/they won't fail but a >failure would be much more painful. Wise words! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mine was an Apple ][ plus Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > Daniel J. Matyola Wed, 08 Apr 2015 12:00:13 -0700 wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: >> >> > My first computer had a 1.2 GB Hard Disk. >> >> >> My first computer had 48 K of memory, and NO hard drive. When you >> turned it off, everything you had done disappeared. I plugged a >> cassette tape recorder into it to save my basic and Pascal programs, >> but that worked only about 30% of the time. No monitor either; I >> plugged it into my TV set, and it displayed text only and then only in >> all caps. > > > Dan, > > I just was able to recall what was the first computer I've used in my life > (not counting a calculator): Electronica D3-28. It had 32 Kb RAM, no HDD or > floppy. It had a tape recorder built-in, which may or may not read out what > you had recorded, and it would depend on temperature, humidity, tape... So, > for the most important things, you'd better have a few different copies. > > Here is how it looked (found it on Wikipedia): > http://goo.gl/uxxHLP > > Cheers, > > Igor > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sounds alot like the Texas Instrument computer I still have. Had to start somewhere. Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: "Daniel J. Matyola" Subject: Re: and another thing! On Wed, Apr 8, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Bipin Gupta wrote: My first computer had a 1.2 GB Hard Disk. My first computer had 48 K of memory, and NO hard drive. When you turned it off, everything you had done disappeared. I plugged a cassette tape recorder into it to save my basic and Pascal programs, but that worked only about 30% of the time. No monitor either; I plugged it into my TV set, and it displayed text only and then only in all caps. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 8 April 2015 at 17:11, Steve Cottrell wrote: > It's not that I don't trust the technology, it's just that I don't trust > the technology. Aaaannddd. Mark! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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John wrote: Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a dozen free doughnuts. http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate I could come up with the tattered clothes, but my Somali accent is horrible. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Too bad they all went bust in New England, then again. since those donuts are pretty much just deep fried sugar, maybe not. On 9/16/2014 2:34 PM, John wrote: Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a dozen free doughnuts. http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Doughnuts?? No siree, I'll have me a nice bottle o' rum instead :-) On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:34 PM, John wrote: > Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving > away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; > DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a > dozen free doughnuts. > > http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate > > -- > Science - Questions we may never find answers for. > Religion - Answers we must never question. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Strangely no one knows what Pirates talked like. The current popular wisdom is based on the first Treasure Island talky and the dialect used by the actor Wallace Beery playing Long John Silver. On 9/16/2014 2:34 PM, John wrote: Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a dozen free doughnuts. http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 1:34 PM, John wrote: > Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving > away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; > DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a > dozen free doughnuts. A generous offer, but I'm afraid that I'm far too bashful to dress in front of a Krispy Kreme counter. -- Photographers must learn not to be ashamed to have their photographs look like photographs. ~ Alfred Stieglitz -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It be a reasonable guess that they'd talk like West Country sailors, since that be whence they all hailed. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pirates-Devon-Cornwall-Richard-Peirce/product-reviews/0955869412/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1 B > On 16 Sep 2014, at 19:58, "P.J. Alling" wrote: > > Strangely no one knows what Pirates talked like. The current popular wisdom > is based on the first Treasure Island talky and the dialect used by the actor > Wallace Beery playing Long John Silver. > >> On 9/16/2014 2:34 PM, John wrote: >> Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving >> away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; >> DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a >> dozen free doughnuts. >> >> http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does that include Jean Lafitte, funny name for a West Country sailor. I expect that he spoke with a decidedly Foruch Axccont. On 9/16/2014 3:12 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: It be a reasonable guess that they'd talk like West Country sailors, since that be whence they all hailed. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pirates-Devon-Cornwall-Richard-Peirce/product-reviews/0955869412/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1 B On 16 Sep 2014, at 19:58, "P.J. Alling" wrote: Strangely no one knows what Pirates talked like. The current popular wisdom is based on the first Treasure Island talky and the dialect used by the actor Wallace Beery playing Long John Silver. On 9/16/2014 2:34 PM, John wrote: Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a dozen free doughnuts. http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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It was a cunning disguise. Her real name was Jean Lovatt - a cross-dressing piratess from Cornwall. B > On 16 Sep 2014, at 21:03, "P.J. Alling" wrote: > > Does that include Jean Lafitte, funny name for a West Country sailor. > > I expect that he spoke with a decidedly Foruch Axccont. > >> On 9/16/2014 3:12 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> It be a reasonable guess that they'd talk like West Country sailors, since >> that be whence they all hailed. >> >> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Pirates-Devon-Cornwall-Richard-Peirce/product-reviews/0955869412/ref=dpx_acr_txt?showViewpoints=1 >> >> B >> >>> On 16 Sep 2014, at 19:58, "P.J. Alling" wrote: >>> >>> Strangely no one knows what Pirates talked like. The current popular >>> wisdom is based on the first Treasure Island talky and the dialect used by >>> the actor Wallace Beery playing Long John Silver. >>> On 9/16/2014 2:34 PM, John wrote: Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a dozen free doughnuts. http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate >>> >>> -- >>> I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve >>> immortality through not dying. >>> -- Woody Allen >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> PDML@pdml.net >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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They probably spoke a dialect similar to the "Hoi Toider" dialect of eastern North Carolina where they used to dispose of their ill gotten booty. Or some creole. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_tider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English-based_creole_languages On 9/16/2014 2:51 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Strangely no one knows what Pirates talked like. The current popular wisdom is based on the first Treasure Island talky and the dialect used by the actor Wallace Beery playing Long John Silver. On 9/16/2014 2:34 PM, John wrote: Friday, 19 Sep 2014 is TALK LIKE A PIRATE DAY and Krispy Kreme is giving away free doughnuts - TALK like a pirate & they'll give you a free doughnut; DRESS like a pirate while you're talking like one, and they'll give you a dozen free doughnuts. http://www.krispykreme.com/Pirate -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Strange thing - and another thing
Right click under the buttons on the message pane & select "Customize" and you can drag the "Smart Reply" button that says "Reply List" when it's not in customization mode to swap places with the "Reply" button and it will stay there when you click [Done]. On 7/3/2017 12:47, John Francis wrote: On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 08:55:53AM +0200, Alan C wrote: Correct me if I am wrong. If an email is sent to a list (such as the PDML), & you use "Reply List" or "Reply All", then you reply goes individually to all members of the list as well as the list mailbox. If you use "Reply", then your reply goes only to the list mailbox. That's not my understanding. If you "Reply List", the message goes to the list email address. You can't send a message to all the list members individually, because you don't have their email addresses - there is no "Reply All" ability. If you just "Reply", the mailer program is supposed to use the reply address specified in the "Reply-To" header. (Which, for most email lists, is set to the list email address). The problem people are complaining about is that Thunderbird has, as of the latest release, chosen to ignore the requirements of the email protocols, and when the user hits Reply is sending the reply to the original poster (using the address supplied in a different header), and only to that person - the message never gets sent to the list. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
