Re: Green mode versus P with auto-iso
Figures. BTW, checked my K110D & K7. The former allows RAW in Auto but not the latter. Alan C -Original Message- From: Larry Colen Sent: Friday, February 10, 2017 12:05 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Green mode versus P with auto-iso I went on a walk today while Mom was going to be taking a nap and experimented with green mode (on raw) versus P with auto-iso on the K-1. It seems that green mode would push the ISO a lot harder, initially going for a faster shutter speed, then when there was enough light a much smaller aperture (higher f-stop). My guess is that they figure if someone is using green mode, they don't know how to hold a camera. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Green mode versus P with auto-iso
I went on a walk today while Mom was going to be taking a nap and experimented with green mode (on raw) versus P with auto-iso on the K-1. It seems that green mode would push the ISO a lot harder, initially going for a faster shutter speed, then when there was enough light a much smaller aperture (higher f-stop). My guess is that they figure if someone is using green mode, they don't know how to hold a camera. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 03:18:05PM -0700, jtainter wrote: > > As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've > had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that > in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature > designed for beginners. > > Joe > (I don't have a K-1, but I can make a pretty good guess as to how you would do this). If you're trying to turn off auto-ISO, then presumably you want to set a particular ISO. And, if you do that, auto-ISO will indeed be turned off. You can turn it back on again by choosing "auto" on the ISO selection, rather than 100, or 800, or whatever you decide. What I might have to refer to the manual for is how to set the upper and lower limits for the auto-ISO range, but that's a rather different question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
But if they didn't think users would need the information, why did they put it in the manual? On 11/20/2016 10:11 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: Which is exactly the way the K-5[II[s]] works. To set auto ISO the K20D required a trip to the Fn ISO menu. Maybe the manual writers for the K-1 assume that the only people who'd buy a K-1 at one time used a K-7, K-5 or K-3, so they didn't need the information. On 11/20/2016 6:09 PM, John wrote: In the Index on page 123 it lists: ISO AUTO Setting .. 49 ISO Sensitivity ... 49 You set ISO AUTO by pressing the green button while holding down the ISO button. Turning the rear wheel while holding the ISO turns ISO AUTO back off and resets the ISO Sensitivity to where-ever you leave off turning the wheel. Index page 125 lists: Sound Effects ... 28 That takes you to "Set-up Menus" where All of the sounds appear to be in "wrench 1" where you can control the volume of the sounds & turn individual sounds on & off. Also lets you turn sounds on/off for Fx1 & Fx2 Buttons. On 11/20/2016 5:18 PM, jtainter wrote: This seems to do it: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature designed for beginners. Joe -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
It's something I don't really think about. I go through all the menus with every new camera -- I've owned all with the exception of the k-5 II-- and just set everything to my liking. The K-1 is undoubtedly the best of the breed, and I'm sure it's replacement will be better yet. I'm at 13,000 exposures, so I'll probably need it by the time it's released. (Just call me Larry.:-) Paul via phone > On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:11 PM, P.J. Alling <webstertwenty...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Which is exactly the way the K-5[II[s]] works. To set auto ISO the K20D > required a trip to the Fn ISO menu. Maybe the manual writers for the K-1 > assume that the only people who'd buy a K-1 at one time used a K-7, K-5 or > K-3, so they didn't need the information. > >> On 11/20/2016 6:09 PM, John wrote: >> In the Index on page 123 it lists: >> >> ISO AUTO Setting .. 49 >> ISO Sensitivity ... 49 >> >> You set ISO AUTO by pressing the green button while holding down the ISO >> button. >> >> Turning the rear wheel while holding the ISO turns ISO AUTO back off and >> resets the ISO Sensitivity to where-ever you leave off turning the wheel. >> >> Index page 125 lists: >> >> Sound Effects ... 28 >> >> That takes you to "Set-up Menus" where All of the sounds appear to be in >> "wrench 1" where you can control the volume of the sounds & turn >> individual sounds on & off. >> >> Also lets you turn sounds on/off for Fx1 & Fx2 Buttons. >> >>> On 11/20/2016 5:18 PM, jtainter wrote: >>> This seems to do it: >>> >>> https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 >>> >>> As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto >>> ISO. I've had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've >>> owned. Odd that in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way >>> to turn off a feature designed for beginners. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve > immortality through not dying. > -- Woody Allen > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
Which is exactly the way the K-5[II[s]] works. To set auto ISO the K20D required a trip to the Fn ISO menu. Maybe the manual writers for the K-1 assume that the only people who'd buy a K-1 at one time used a K-7, K-5 or K-3, so they didn't need the information. On 11/20/2016 6:09 PM, John wrote: In the Index on page 123 it lists: ISO AUTO Setting .. 49 ISO Sensitivity ... 49 You set ISO AUTO by pressing the green button while holding down the ISO button. Turning the rear wheel while holding the ISO turns ISO AUTO back off and resets the ISO Sensitivity to where-ever you leave off turning the wheel. Index page 125 lists: Sound Effects ... 28 That takes you to "Set-up Menus" where All of the sounds appear to be in "wrench 1" where you can control the volume of the sounds & turn individual sounds on & off. Also lets you turn sounds on/off for Fx1 & Fx2 Buttons. On 11/20/2016 5:18 PM, jtainter wrote: This seems to do it: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature designed for beginners. Joe -- I don't want to achieve immortality through my work; I want to achieve immortality through not dying. -- Woody Allen -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
In the Index on page 123 it lists: ISO AUTO Setting .. 49 ISO Sensitivity ... 49 You set ISO AUTO by pressing the green button while holding down the ISO button. Turning the rear wheel while holding the ISO turns ISO AUTO back off and resets the ISO Sensitivity to where-ever you leave off turning the wheel. Index page 125 lists: Sound Effects ... 28 That takes you to "Set-up Menus" where All of the sounds appear to be in "wrench 1" where you can control the volume of the sounds & turn individual sounds on & off. Also lets you turn sounds on/off for Fx1 & Fx2 Buttons. On 11/20/2016 5:18 PM, jtainter wrote: This seems to do it: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature designed for beginners. Joe -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
Well, mine may have come that way as well. Don't recall, but I usually started with aperture priority and set ISO to what I wanted. If the camera came preset with something else I never noticed. Because the K-1 is so good at high ISO I now use TV most often. Paul via phone > On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:51 PM, jtainter <jtain...@mindspring.com> wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > "Don't know what happened here. I meant to say, my K-1 goes to auto ISO only > in > TVR exposure mode." > > Paul, every Pentax DSLR I've owned has come with Auto ISO as the initial > setting (*ist D, K10D, K20D, K-5, K-5II, K-5IIs, and now K-1). > > Anyway, I think now I've got it licked. > > Joe > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
Paul wrote: "Don't know what happened here. I meant to say, my K-1 goes to auto ISO only in TVR exposure mode." Paul, every Pentax DSLR I've owned has come with Auto ISO as the initial setting (*ist D, K10D, K20D, K-5, K-5II, K-5IIs, and now K-1). Anyway, I think now I've got it licked. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
Don't know what happened here. I meant to say, my K-1 goes to auto ISO only in TVR exposure mode. Paul via phone > On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:31 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote: > > Don't know what's going on here, but my K-1 goes ru auto ISO only because n > the exposure mode. I use that a lot, but it's limited to that mode. (Plus you > can limit the ISO range, even in tar.) > > Paul via phone > >> On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:18 PM, jtainter <jtain...@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> This seems to do it: >> >> https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 >> >> As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've >> had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that >> in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature >> designed for beginners. >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
Don't know what's going on here, but my K-1 goes ru auto ISO only because n the exposure mode. I use that a lot, but it's limited to that mode. (Plus you can limit the ISO range, even in tar.) Paul via phone > On Nov 20, 2016, at 5:18 PM, jtainter <jtain...@mindspring.com> wrote: > > This seems to do it: > > https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 > > As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've > had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that > in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature > designed for beginners. > > Joe > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
K-1 Turning Off Auto ISO
This seems to do it: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58681200 As far as I can tell, the manual does not say how to turn off Auto ISO. I've had no trouble like this in previous Pentax DSLRs that I've owned. Odd that in a professional-grade camera, there is no easy way to turn off a feature designed for beginners. Joe -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
Hi Fernando On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:29 -0400, Fernando fer.p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Brian, This can be set in the DS by using the custom setting menu, opcion ISO Corction in AUTO (ooh, those beautiful option names Pentax used to use...) you can select any of these options: ISO 200-800 ISO 200-400 ISO 200-1600 ISO 200-3200 Didn't check but I believe my *istD has similar options I never realised that a firmware update had amended the Automatic Sensitivity correction. Thanks for posting. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - IMAP accessible web-mail -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Auto ISO
Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:45 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- Actually I wasn't aware that Auto had been added to the *ist DS (my second camera), so thanks for posting. My understanding (and this could be completely wrong) is that Auto ISO allows the camera to adjust the ISO to suit the lighting conditions. So, if you were shooting in Av mode and set an aperture that would give a shutter speed too low for hand holding, the ISO would be increased to achieve an acceptable shutter speed (or as high a speed as possible). At least that's how it seems to work with the K200D. With the 200D (and I assume the other K series bodies), you can limit the range over which the camera is allowed to increase the ISO. That doesn't seem possible on the DS, so I assume (a lot of assumptions here!) that the camera can adjust the ISO right up to 3200 with the AUTO setting, if necessary. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Access all of your messages and folders wherever you are -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
That's pretty much the way it works on the DS, I've never used it on the D so I don't know if it even has it, and I think used it on the Ds once. Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:45 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- Actually I wasn't aware that Auto had been added to the *ist DS (my second camera), so thanks for posting. My understanding (and this could be completely wrong) is that Auto ISO allows the camera to adjust the ISO to suit the lighting conditions. So, if you were shooting in Av mode and set an aperture that would give a shutter speed too low for hand holding, the ISO would be increased to achieve an acceptable shutter speed (or as high a speed as possible). At least that's how it seems to work with the K200D. With the 200D (and I assume the other K series bodies), you can limit the range over which the camera is allowed to increase the ISO. That doesn't seem possible on the DS, so I assume (a lot of assumptions here!) that the camera can adjust the ISO right up to 3200 with the AUTO setting, if necessary. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
In reflecting on the feature, it seemed to me that something had to be fixed, and so at the very minimum it would only work in the picture modes, and probably in the Av and Ty modes, but I couldn't find a way to do an in cameras test. Going into RAW processing I could see what ISO level was used but I haven't done that as yet. Ah hah..After some reflection, I went out and set the ISO to Auto and took a picture. If you bring the picture back to the screen for review and hit the INFO button twice, the shot parameters are shown. In this case it was ISO 800 and I was in Av mode. In flower mode, it set the ISO to 1600 so it appears that the aperture and speed are set and the AUTO ISO moves the ISO setting to make it happen. Interesting. I can see why you would want to set a usable range of ISO speeds if you were going to use this feature as it is not displayed in the eyepiece. John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:45 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- Actually I wasn't aware that Auto had been added to the *ist DS (my second camera), so thanks for posting. My understanding (and this could be completely wrong) is that Auto ISO allows the camera to adjust the ISO to suit the lighting conditions. So, if you were shooting in Av mode and set an aperture that would give a shutter speed too low for hand holding, the ISO would be increased to achieve an acceptable shutter speed (or as high a speed as possible). At least that's how it seems to work with the K200D. With the 200D (and I assume the other K series bodies), you can limit the range over which the camera is allowed to increase the ISO. That doesn't seem possible on the DS, so I assume (a lot of assumptions here!) that the camera can adjust the ISO right up to 3200 with the AUTO setting, if necessary. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.29/2261 - Release Date: 07/25/09 05:58:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:08 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: In reflecting on the feature, it seemed to me that something had to be fixed, and so at the very minimum it would only work in the picture modes, and probably in the Av and Ty modes, but I couldn't find a way to do an in cameras test. Going into RAW processing I could see what ISO level was used but I haven't done that as yet. Ah hah..After some reflection, I went out and set the ISO to Auto and took a picture. If you bring the picture back to the screen for review and hit the INFO button twice, the shot parameters are shown. In this case it was ISO 800 and I was in Av mode. In flower mode, it set the ISO to 1600 so it appears that the aperture and speed are set and the AUTO ISO moves the ISO setting to make it happen. Interesting. I can see why you would want to set a usable range of ISO speeds if you were going to use this feature as it is not displayed in the eyepiece. I just did a few test shots with the DS in Av mode. I couldn't get the camera to set an ISO higher than 800. There seems to be a built-in limiting ISO that is not able to be set by the user (unlike the K bodies) and, based on your tests, the limiting ISO might be different depending on the shooting mode set. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:45 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- Actually I wasn't aware that Auto had been added to the *ist DS (my second camera), so thanks for posting. My understanding (and this could be completely wrong) is that Auto ISO allows the camera to adjust the ISO to suit the lighting conditions. So, if you were shooting in Av mode and set an aperture that would give a shutter speed too low for hand holding, the ISO would be increased to achieve an acceptable shutter speed (or as high a speed as possible). At least that's how it seems to work with the K200D. With the 200D (and I assume the other K series bodies), you can limit the range over which the camera is allowed to increase the ISO. That doesn't seem possible on the DS, so I assume (a lot of assumptions here!) that the camera can adjust the ISO right up to 3200 with the AUTO setting, if necessary. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
Hi Brian, This can be set in the DS by using the custom setting menu, opcion ISO Corction in AUTO (ooh, those beautiful option names Pentax used to use...) you can select any of these options: ISO 200-800 ISO 200-400 ISO 200-1600 ISO 200-3200 Didn't check but I believe my *istD has similar options On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:08 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: In reflecting on the feature, it seemed to me that something had to be fixed, and so at the very minimum it would only work in the picture modes, and probably in the Av and Ty modes, but I couldn't find a way to do an in cameras test. Going into RAW processing I could see what ISO level was used but I haven't done that as yet. Ah hah..After some reflection, I went out and set the ISO to Auto and took a picture. If you bring the picture back to the screen for review and hit the INFO button twice, the shot parameters are shown. In this case it was ISO 800 and I was in Av mode. In flower mode, it set the ISO to 1600 so it appears that the aperture and speed are set and the AUTO ISO moves the ISO setting to make it happen. Interesting. I can see why you would want to set a usable range of ISO speeds if you were going to use this feature as it is not displayed in the eyepiece. I just did a few test shots with the DS in Av mode. I couldn't get the camera to set an ISO higher than 800. There seems to be a built-in limiting ISO that is not able to be set by the user (unlike the K bodies) and, based on your tests, the limiting ISO might be different depending on the shooting mode set. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:45 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- Actually I wasn't aware that Auto had been added to the *ist DS (my second camera), so thanks for posting. My understanding (and this could be completely wrong) is that Auto ISO allows the camera to adjust the ISO to suit the lighting conditions. So, if you were shooting in Av mode and set an aperture that would give a shutter speed too low for hand holding, the ISO would be increased to achieve an acceptable shutter speed (or as high a speed as possible). At least that's how it seems to work with the K200D. With the 200D (and I assume the other K series bodies), you can limit the range over which the camera is allowed to increase the ISO. That doesn't seem possible on the DS, so I assume (a lot of assumptions here!) that the camera can adjust the ISO right up to 3200 with the AUTO setting, if necessary. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Auto ISO
Who knew Would be wonderful to have a mini-manual to print out when they do an update John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Fernando wrote: Hi Brian, This can be set in the DS by using the custom setting menu, opcion ISO Corction in AUTO (ooh, those beautiful option names Pentax used to use...) you can select any of these options: ISO 200-800 ISO 200-400 ISO 200-1600 ISO 200-3200 Didn't check but I believe my *istD has similar options On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Brian Walterssupera1...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:08 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: In reflecting on the feature, it seemed to me that something had to be fixed, and so at the very minimum it would only work in the picture modes, and probably in the Av and Ty modes, but I couldn't find a way to do an in cameras test. Going into RAW processing I could see what ISO level was used but I haven't done that as yet. Ah hah..After some reflection, I went out and set the ISO to Auto and took a picture. If you bring the picture back to the screen for review and hit the INFO button twice, the shot parameters are shown. In this case it was ISO 800 and I was in Av mode. In flower mode, it set the ISO to 1600 so it appears that the aperture and speed are set and the AUTO ISO moves the ISO setting to make it happen. Interesting. I can see why you would want to set a usable range of ISO speeds if you were going to use this feature as it is not displayed in the eyepiece. I just did a few test shots with the DS in Av mode. I couldn't get the camera to set an ISO higher than 800. There seems to be a built-in limiting ISO that is not able to be set by the user (unlike the K bodies) and, based on your tests, the limiting ISO might be different depending on the shooting mode set. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ John Graves WA1JG jh.gra...@verizon.net Brian Walters wrote: On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:45 -0400, John Graves jh.gra...@verizon.net wrote: Auto ISO is one of the features added to my DS with the last update. I switched it in this afternoon while taking more bird pictures. Aside from the discovery that I am not as fast as a hummingbird, I could not discern what AUTO ISO added to the picture equation. Is there a discussion of this feature somewhere that explains what is is how it operates? For instance, does it start at the last set ISO level and move up or down based on some ideal setting of aperture and speed. Does it require that I select one of the modes to make it work. This would be the most logical to me. Is this a feature I can ignore if not with impunity at least with some peace of mind? -- Actually I wasn't aware that Auto had been added to the *ist DS (my second camera), so thanks for posting. My understanding (and this could be completely wrong) is that Auto ISO allows the camera to adjust the ISO to suit the lighting conditions. So, if you were shooting in Av mode and set an aperture that would give a shutter speed too low for hand holding, the ISO would be increased to achieve an acceptable shutter speed (or as high a speed as possible). At least that's how it seems to work with the K200D. With the 200D (and I assume the other K series bodies), you can limit the range over which the camera is allowed to increase the ISO. That doesn't seem possible on the DS, so I assume (a lot of assumptions here!) that the camera can adjust the ISO right up to 3200 with the AUTO setting, if necessary. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - The professional email service -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.29/2261 - Release Date: 07/25/09 05:58:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
