Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[David Mann]

On Apr 17, 2010, at 5:40 AM, eckinator wrote:

> AFAIK Giro have either terminated or massively reduced theirs - back
> then they replaced any helmet for a flat fee of 50 DEM and a Giro
> helmet was considered affordable at DEM 329 when I bought mine. I
> think they went from 50 DEM to 50 EUR to 50 percent and then to "tough
> luck buddy"...

In my case my insurance came to the party so I wasn't left out of pocket.  
Lucky for them the bike shop had the replacement helmets on sale at the time so 
all I had to do was pick the colour.

Dave
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[John Coyle]

I still bear the scars of a bike accident when I went over the bars,
skidding along for a couple of feet.  Not only did I knock myself out, I
took most of the skin off the left side of my face: had I been wearing a
helmet (not thought of in those days) I might have been spared that.
I'd never get on a bike again, particularly for some serious riding, without
a helmet.
YMMV, of course


John in Brisbane


-Original Message-
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
Larry Colen
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 4:36 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: GESO - Bikespotting

On 4/14/2010 4:50 AM, Richard D Bush wrote:
> I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear helmets. It's a
> vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.

Same could be said for pedestrians by the way.

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

Riding uphill in warm weather, I don't have wind evaporating my sweat 
and I've never really found a combination of helmet and sweatband that 
works well. So, if I'm wearing a helmet I get sweat pouring into my 
eyes. Very uncomfortable.

On the flip side, one time I was riding down Felton Empire grade, 
realized that I was going about the same speed as I would on my 
motorcycle, but rather than fat tires, disk brakes and leather from neck 
to toes, I had 25mm wide tires, a couple of tiny rubber pads, spandex 
and a fiberglass yarmulke.

I do tend to wear helmets on long rides, especially if there will be 
fast downhill sections, though I suspect that the risk/benefit window is 
narrower than people think. In other words, there is a narrow range of 
situations where there is significant risk and that the helmet would 
actually provide sufficient protection to make a big difference.

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[eckinator]

2010/4/16 David Mann :
> On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:40 AM, eckinator wrote:
>
>> 2010/4/15 Larry Colen :
>>>
>>> Bell was nice enough to send me a replacement.
>>
>> so was giro when I wiped out. the service charge was about one 6.5th
>> of the helmet
>
> I know Specialized have a discount replacement program, at least in the USA.  
> I found out the hard way that it doesn't extend to NZ.

AFAIK Giro have either terminated or massively reduced theirs - back
then they replaced any helmet for a flat fee of 50 DEM and a Giro
helmet was considered affordable at DEM 329 when I bought mine. I
think they went from 50 DEM to 50 EUR to 50 percent and then to "tough
luck buddy"...

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[David Mann]

On Apr 16, 2010, at 9:40 AM, eckinator wrote:

> 2010/4/15 Larry Colen :
>> 
>> Bell was nice enough to send me a replacement.
> 
> so was giro when I wiped out. the service charge was about one 6.5th
> of the helmet

I know Specialized have a discount replacement program, at least in the USA.  I 
found out the hard way that it doesn't extend to NZ.

Dave
-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[eckinator]

2010/4/15 Larry Colen :
>
> Bell was nice enough to send me a replacement.

so was giro when I wiped out. the service charge was about one 6.5th
of the helmet
cheers
ecke

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Larry Colen]

On 4/15/2010 2:13 PM, mike wilson wrote:

eckinator wrote:


The longer I read what you say and what you link to the more I doubt
my helmet beliefs and choices. I was aware of rotational injuries but
was and am still under the impression that a helmet, preferably one
with at least a chin bar, can also keep your head or parts of it clear
of the edge of a curbstone which I see as the most critical threat
around town. I have yet to find any clear statement on that. For now
my feeling is precisely some is better than none but that may or may
not be true...
Cheers
Ecke


There's only one way to find out.


While I've worn bike helmets intermittently over the past 30 years, I've 
only ever one once.


Bell was nice enough to send me a replacement.





--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[mike wilson]

eckinator wrote:


The longer I read what you say and what you link to the more I doubt
my helmet beliefs and choices. I was aware of rotational injuries but
was and am still under the impression that a helmet, preferably one
with at least a chin bar, can also keep your head or parts of it clear
of the edge of a curbstone which I see as the most critical threat
around town. I have yet to find any clear statement on that. For now
my feeling is precisely some is better than none but that may or may
not be true...
Cheers
Ecke


There's only one way to find out.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob W]

> 
> also keep your head or parts of it clear of the edge of a 
> curbstone which I see as the most critical threat around 
> town. I have yet to find any clear statement on that. For now 

It is probably worth while finding out the main causes of cycling accidents
where you regularly cycle, and making sure you know how to avoid those types
of accident. In London, for example, the main causes seem to be from motor
vehicles - particularly buses and lorries - turning left in front of
cyclists, who are subsequently crushed against the pavement barriers.
Another major cause is problems on roundabouts. In both cases the numbers
can be and are reduced by cyclist and driver education. Cyclists need to
learn how to cycle properly in traffic, and drivers need to be more aware of
the issues facing cyclists. Lorry and bus drivers are now increasingly being
educated in these areas. As more and more people cycle, more and more of
those cyclists are also drivers so as cyclists they know where drivers are
looking, and as drivers they understand about cyclists, so this in itself
improves road safety. The safety in numbers benefit also increases. 

Factors like this do far more to prevent injury than helmets ever will.


> The longer I read what you say and what you link to the more 
> I doubt my helmet beliefs and choices. I was aware of 
> rotational injuries but was and am still under the impression 
> that a helmet, preferably one with at least a chin bar, can 
> also keep your head or parts of it clear of the edge of a 
> curbstone which I see as the most critical threat around 
> town. I have yet to find any clear statement on that. For now 
> my feeling is precisely some is better than none but that may 
> or may not be true...
> Cheers
> Ecke
> 
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly 
> above and follow the directions.


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[eckinator]

2010/4/15 Bob W :
>> I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear helmets. It's a
>> vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.
>
> [...]
>
>> will be fast downhill sections, though I suspect that the
>> risk/benefit window is narrower than people think. In other
>> words, there is a narrow range of situations where there is
>> significant risk and that the helmet would actually provide
>> sufficient protection to make a big difference.
>
> They can also be a positive harm, turning what would be a minor bump, cut or
> graze into a serious injury in some circumstances.
>
> Few people give any serious consideration either to the costs of wearing a
> helmet or to the benefits they actually provide, as opposed to the benefits
> claimed by vested interest groups such as health & safety busybodies,
> insurance companies and cycle helmet manufacturers.
>
> It's one of those things that is intuitively obviously good - some
> protection must be better than none - until you start to question the
> conventional wisdom and look for some solid evidence both for and against.
> When you do this you find that there is little agreement in the scientific
> community about the pros or the cons. This means you have to make your own
> choice; it also means one has no right to try and foist one's own views on
> other people.
>
> Last year when I was cycling in France I clocked myself doing over 35mph
> downhill. If I'd fallen off at that speed a helmet wouldn't protect me
> against dashing my brains out. It might stop me from tearing my scalp off
> (the old-fashioned hairnet style of helmet would help with that), but it
> might also cause me to snap my neck or twist my brain away from my brain
> case. Conclusion: don't cycle at 35mph.
>
> The only cycling accident I've had as an adult was falling off at walking
> pace (don't ask how!) and breaking my wrist - I have, or had, slightly low
> bone density. I also took a bump on the head, which didn't even bruise, but
> it was the kind of bump that could have been aggravated by wearing a helmet
> and causing a rotational injury.
>
> In addition to the above, the pro-helmet lobby implies that general utility
> cycling is somehow an inherently unsafe activity. This is not supported by
> the evidence as compared with other activities, such as walking, driving, or
> running with scissors.
>
> You pays your money and you takes your choice.
>
> Bob

The longer I read what you say and what you link to the more I doubt
my helmet beliefs and choices. I was aware of rotational injuries but
was and am still under the impression that a helmet, preferably one
with at least a chin bar, can also keep your head or parts of it clear
of the edge of a curbstone which I see as the most critical threat
around town. I have yet to find any clear statement on that. For now
my feeling is precisely some is better than none but that may or may
not be true...
Cheers
Ecke

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob W]

> I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear helmets. It's a 
> vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.

[...]

> will be fast downhill sections, though I suspect that the 
> risk/benefit window is narrower than people think. In other 
> words, there is a narrow range of situations where there is 
> significant risk and that the helmet would actually provide 
> sufficient protection to make a big difference.

They can also be a positive harm, turning what would be a minor bump, cut or
graze into a serious injury in some circumstances. 

Few people give any serious consideration either to the costs of wearing a
helmet or to the benefits they actually provide, as opposed to the benefits
claimed by vested interest groups such as health & safety busybodies,
insurance companies and cycle helmet manufacturers.

It's one of those things that is intuitively obviously good - some
protection must be better than none - until you start to question the
conventional wisdom and look for some solid evidence both for and against.
When you do this you find that there is little agreement in the scientific
community about the pros or the cons. This means you have to make your own
choice; it also means one has no right to try and foist one's own views on
other people.

Last year when I was cycling in France I clocked myself doing over 35mph
downhill. If I'd fallen off at that speed a helmet wouldn't protect me
against dashing my brains out. It might stop me from tearing my scalp off
(the old-fashioned hairnet style of helmet would help with that), but it
might also cause me to snap my neck or twist my brain away from my brain
case. Conclusion: don't cycle at 35mph.

The only cycling accident I've had as an adult was falling off at walking
pace (don't ask how!) and breaking my wrist - I have, or had, slightly low
bone density. I also took a bump on the head, which didn't even bruise, but
it was the kind of bump that could have been aggravated by wearing a helmet
and causing a rotational injury.

In addition to the above, the pro-helmet lobby implies that general utility
cycling is somehow an inherently unsafe activity. This is not supported by
the evidence as compared with other activities, such as walking, driving, or
running with scissors.

You pays your money and you takes your choice.

Bob


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Larry Colen]

On 4/14/2010 4:50 AM, Richard D Bush wrote:

I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear helmets. It's a
vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.


Same could be said for pedestrians by the way.

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't.

Riding uphill in warm weather, I don't have wind evaporating my sweat 
and I've never really found a combination of helmet and sweatband that 
works well. So, if I'm wearing a helmet I get sweat pouring into my 
eyes. Very uncomfortable.


On the flip side, one time I was riding down Felton Empire grade, 
realized that I was going about the same speed as I would on my 
motorcycle, but rather than fat tires, disk brakes and leather from neck 
to toes, I had 25mm wide tires, a couple of tiny rubber pads, spandex 
and a fiberglass yarmulke.


I do tend to wear helmets on long rides, especially if there will be 
fast downhill sections, though I suspect that the risk/benefit window is 
narrower than people think. In other words, there is a narrow range of 
situations where there is significant risk and that the helmet would 
actually provide sufficient protection to make a big difference.


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob W]

>   On 3/4/2010 3:57 PM, frank theriault wrote:
> > A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag, 
> > Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk 
> > cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
> > This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there 
> > safety in numbers for cyclists?".
> >
[..]

Nice set of shots. 

The question is not banal - it's a very interesting and important plank in
encouraging more cycling and is a central part of the CTC (UK Cyclists'
Touring Club) policy. However, it's a matter of fact, not a matter of
opinion, so asking people for their opinions about it is rather dumb.


Having just returned from 3 days in Paris I can tell you I am amazed at how
many more bikes there seem to be on the road, even compared to last year.
All done with impeccable style, of course.

B


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob W]

> 
> I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear 
> helmets. It's a vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.
> 
> RB
> 

Here are the facts:


Bob


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[eckinator]

2010/4/14 Richard D Bush :
>
> I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear helmets. It's a
> vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.

definitely. my only ever city speed endo flip (front wheel caught in
tram rail) broke my collarbone and helmet. had I not worn a helmet it
could have cracked my skull... helmet opponents say a helmet can
multiply harmful forces as well and that is certainly a fact but I'd
like to think they help more often than they harm...

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Richard D Bush]

I don't understand why so many bike riders don't wear helmets. It's a  
vertical fall that often does in the bike rider.


RB

On Apr 14, 2010, at 5:29 AM, Boris Liberman wrote:

Most refreshing set of portraits, Frank. Everyone is visibly  
different. It is not like you were doing a repetitive job. Well done!


Boris

On 3/4/2010 3:57 PM, frank theriault wrote:

A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
safety in numbers for cyclists?".

Whatever.

I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
;-)

I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and  
follow the directions.



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Boris Liberman]

Most refreshing set of portraits, Frank. Everyone is visibly different. 
It is not like you were doing a repetitive job. Well done!


Boris

 On 3/4/2010 3:57 PM, frank theriault wrote:

A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
safety in numbers for cyclists?".

Whatever.

I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
;-)

I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank




--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[P. J. Alling]

Pikespotting, so you're advocating giving fish bicycles?

On 3/5/2010 9:04 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
Way to go, Frank!  Big congrats on the Pikespotting gig.  All of your 
pictures are excellent, but I especially like the one of the guy with 
the bike over his shoulder and that graffiti on the door. Nicely 
gritty there. It's really interesting the different bike garb folks 
wear.  Nice work, Frank!  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - From: "frank theriault" 


To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:57 AM
Subject: GESO - Bikespotting



A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
safety in numbers for cyclists?".

Whatever.

I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
;-)

I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above 
and follow the directions.









--
{\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier 
New;}}
\viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the 
interface subtly weird.\par
}


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[frank theriault]

On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Derby Chang  wrote:


> Well done. But I have to say, your personal B+W conversions are even better

Thanks, Derby.

The portrait of Vanessa that I converted to BW wasn't "eligible" for
Bikespotting anyway, because we need at least part of a bike in the
pic.

As for the cute girl with "the feet", I rather like both the colour
and BW version.  I do like the colour of her helmet.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Derby Chang]

frank theriault wrote:

A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
safety in numbers for cyclists?".

Whatever.

I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
;-)

I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

  


Well done. But I have to say, your personal B+W conversions are even better

D

--

der...@iinet.net.au
http://members.iinet.net.au/~derbyc

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Oh, geeze.  Typo.  Frank, I didn't not mean what I wrote.  I meant
> Bikespotting.  Sorry about that. I apologize!!!   Cheers, Christine
>
> p.s.  I'm not even sure how that happened.  the B & P aren't even neighbors
> on the keyboard!!!

Oh yeah, and thanks to everyone who looked and commented.  As i said,
the photo editor e-mailed me to say she thought it would be the most
interesting set of Pikespotting - er, I mean Bikespotting - photos
yet.  I'm quite pleased with how they turned out.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Bob W  wrote:

> I think you're mistaking him for Josef Koudelka:

Well, we both shoot a lot of B&W.  I'm sure the similarities end there...

;-)

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[frank theriault]

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 12:02 PM, Christine  Aguila
 wrote:
> Oh, geeze.  Typo.  Frank, I didn't not mean what I wrote.  I meant
> Bikespotting.  Sorry about that. I apologize!!!   Cheers, Christine
>
> p.s.  I'm not even sure how that happened.  the B & P aren't even neighbors
> on the keyboard!!!

I didn't even notice the typo - I guess the gestalt of it all made me
read what made sense, rather than what was actually there.

Thank goodness Bob noticed it though!!

;-)

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Christine Aguila]

Oh, geeze.  Typo.  Frank, I didn't not mean what I wrote.  I meant 
Bikespotting.  Sorry about that. I apologize!!!   Cheers, Christine


p.s.  I'm not even sure how that happened.  the B & P aren't even neighbors 
on the keyboard!!!




- Original Message - 
From: "Bob W" 

To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" 
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:41 AM
Subject: RE: GESO - Bikespotting






Way to go, Frank!  Big congrats on the Pikespotting gig.  [...]


I think you're mistaking him for Josef Koudelka:

http://tinyurl.com/yecmtsj

http://images.google.co.uk/images?rlz=1C1CHMA_en-GBGB339GB339&sourceid=chrom
e&q=koudelka+gypsies&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=bAeSS4aCMobw0wTfksXxDA&sa=X&oi=image_r
esult_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CBsQsAQwAw



--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.






--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob W]

> 
> Way to go, Frank!  Big congrats on the Pikespotting gig.  [...]

I think you're mistaking him for Josef Koudelka:

http://tinyurl.com/yecmtsj

http://images.google.co.uk/images?rlz=1C1CHMA_en-GBGB339GB339&sourceid=chrom
e&q=koudelka+gypsies&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=bAeSS4aCMobw0wTfksXxDA&sa=X&oi=image_r
esult_group&ct=title&resnum=4&ved=0CBsQsAQwAw



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Christine Aguila]

Way to go, Frank!  Big congrats on the Pikespotting gig.  All of your 
pictures are excellent, but I especially like the one of the guy with the 
bike over his shoulder and that graffiti on the door. Nicely gritty there. 
It's really interesting the different bike garb folks wear.  Nice work, 
Frank!  Cheers, Christine



- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:57 AM
Subject: GESO - Bikespotting



A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
safety in numbers for cyclists?".

Whatever.

I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
;-)

I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

--
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions.






--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

RE: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob W]

> I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to 
> do it again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a 
> mix of "candid"
> and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
> 

Jolly nice, well done!

B


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bran Everseeking]

On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:57:41 -0500
frank theriault  wrote:

> I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
> again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
> and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

its a fun collection.  My Fav us the young lady in the earflap hat  the
full length shot.


-- 
"Love" is that condition in which the happiness of another person is
essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy
condition.- Robert Heinlein

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[David J Brooks]

Good job on these Frank.

Nice back grounds and some interesting looking folk.


They all seem to be skinny for some reason.

Dave

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:57 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
> Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
> cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
> This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
> safety in numbers for cyclists?".
>
> Whatever.
>
> I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
> photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
> the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
> looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
> ;-)
>
> I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
> again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
> and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
>



-- 
Documenting Life in Rural Ontario.
www.caughtinmotion.com
http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/
York Region, Ontario, Canada

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank,
That's a good series of photos.
Each person stands out and looks good - not a trivial thing to do.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:57 AM, frank theriault
 wrote:
> A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
> Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
> cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
> This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
> safety in numbers for cyclists?".
>
> Whatever.
>
> I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
> photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
> the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
> looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
> ;-)
>
> I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
> again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
> and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:
>
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html
>
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> --
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
>
> --
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
> the directions.
>

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: GESO - Bikespotting

[Jack Davis]

Remarkable consistent exposure throughout. A crisp series which, wisely, 
includes a choice of general happy folks.
Very nice collection. 

Jack

--- On Thu, 3/4/10, frank theriault  wrote:

> From: frank theriault 
> Subject: GESO - Bikespotting
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 5:57 AM
> A couple of weekends ago I did a
> shoot for a local bike mag,
> Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the
> writer and I stalk
> cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the
> month".
> This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like
> "is there
> safety in numbers for cyclists?".
> 
> Whatever.
> 
> I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine
> answers and
> photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the
> full-rez images
> the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then
> again I
> looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very
> high...
> ;-)
> 
> I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope
> to do it
> again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a
> mix of "candid"
> and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html
> 
> Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> -- 
> "Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri
> Cartier-Bresson
> 
> -- 
> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> PDML@pdml.net
> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link
> directly above and follow the directions.
> 


  

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

GESO - Bikespotting

[frank theriault]

A couple of weekends ago I did a shoot for a local bike mag,
Dandyhorse.  It's called Bikespotting, where the writer and I stalk
cyclists and record their answers to "the question of the month".
This month it was something banal (isn't it always?) like "is there
safety in numbers for cyclists?".

Whatever.

I submitted the best two shots for each cyclist, nine answers and
photos will be on a full-page spread.  I submitted the full-rez images
the other day and the editor seemed ~very~ pleased - then again I
looked at past Bikespotting pages and the bar wasn't very high...
;-)

I'm happy with what I got and actually learned a lot (hope to do it
again next time).  I tried to vary the looks and get a mix of "candid"
and "posed" shots.  Anyway, here they are:

http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bikespotting.html

Hope you enjoy.  Comments always welcome.

cheers,
frank

-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.