K10D vs D80 at clubic.com (french)
This is a computer website, not a photo oriented website so don't ask too much. However they do indeed point the particuliar K10D features and there are interesting comparison photos. Didn't have time to read everyting but it seems a quite honest review from a tech site. D80 got: Ergonomics: 4/5 Functions: 3.5/5 Picture Quality: 4/5 K10D got: Ergonomics: 4/5 Functions: 4.5/5 Picture Quality: 4/5 -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80 at clubic.com (french)
On 1/15/07 12:57 PM, Thibouille, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: D80 got: Ergonomics: 4/5 Functions: 3.5/5 Picture Quality: 4/5 K10D got: Ergonomics: 4/5 Functions: 4.5/5 Picture Quality: 4/5 Seeing various reviews, I am convinced that Pentax's investment to beef up their imaging processing (hiring more engineers etc) over the past several years is paying off. It is at least equal to or even better than Nikon's capability, and certainly on par with Canon except theirs is somewhat different approach (more in-camera processing and use of their own censor etc). As long as they sustain this capability, I believe (and hope) they can keep up with competitions. Hardware part has always been OK. Ken -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). He should take a compact camera instead. What's the use of having exchangable lenses, when you don't want to exchange them. Get a decent Sony etc. instead... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 12:19:58PM +0200, Martin Trautmann wrote: On 2006-09-29 14:25, Juan Buhler wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). He should take a compact camera instead. What's the use of having exchangable lenses, when you don't want to exchange them. Get a decent Sony etc. instead... Even the best of the fixed-lens cameras has a sensor far smaller than the 24x16 sensor used in a DSLR. This leads to several problems. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D vs D80
This is why I like the Tamron 28-300 on the *istD. My current condition makes it extremely difficult to carry around extra lenses. However, I hope to improve enough by next spring to take my full complement of lenses to GFM. Bill Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
I'm not a fan of such lenses generally. A friend of mine who also isn't seems to be very happy with the Sigma 17-70 of late. Not that I love Sigma, but I have usually found John's choices to be apt. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). If he goes with Nikon, he also has the option of the 18-200mm, which is supposed to be superb for its class. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? Shel [Original Message] From: Amita Guha If he goes with Nikon, he also has the option of the 18-200mm, which is supposed to be superb for its class. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Superzooms. The Sigma and Tamron 18-200's, and the Nikkor, which is significantly better optically, 1/2 stop faster at the long end and 3-4x the price (Although much of the price difference is in the VR) -Adam Shel Belinkoff wrote: What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? Shel [Original Message] From: Amita Guha If he goes with Nikon, he also has the option of the 18-200mm, which is supposed to be superb for its class. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once and thought it meant something else. Now, what's VR? Overall and generally speaking, how do these superzooms compare to zooms with a lesser focal range? Do they measure up to even those standards? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Superzooms. The Sigma and Tamron 18-200's, and the Nikkor, which is significantly better optically, 1/2 stop faster at the long end and 3-4x the price (Although much of the price difference is in the VR) Shel Belinkoff wrote: What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? [Original Message] From: Amita Guha If he goes with Nikon, he also has the option of the 18-200mm, which is supposed to be superb for its class. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once and thought it meant something else. Now, what's VR? VIbration Reduction Nikon's version of IS Overall and generally speaking, how do these superzooms compare to zooms with a lesser focal range? Do they measure up to even those standards? Poorly Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? I'd debate the wisdom of the 18-125 vs. a pair of zooms, in the 18-55 and the 50-200, even if he ends up going with the Nikon equivalents (not sure what Nikon has in those focal lengths). The viewfinder on the D80 would probably still keep me out of the system, though I have a friend who is very happy with his D200. -Mat -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? I guess you'd call it a digital superzoom. All prices @ BH: Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G DX VR AF-S $ 749.95 Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC $ 379.00 Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II AF $ 389.00 Then there is the full-frame Tokina 24-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AT-X AF, $ 299.95 PopPhoto says the Nikon is the best superzoom they've seen optically, and Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. It's quite a popular lens from what I've seen on Nikon message boards. Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: K10D vs D80
On 9/30/06, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. [...] I doubt I can compete with that recommendation from one of the greats. I'll just tell my friend to go Nikon. :) -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
I wonder if Kenny-boy has bothered to shoot with it before recommending it. If he shot with it, I wonder if he bothered to look at the pix. Cynical me. Rick --- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Amita Guha wrote: PopPhoto says the Nikon is the best superzoom they've seen optically, and Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. It's quite a popular lens from what I've seen on Nikon message boards. If Ken Rockwell says that, then all of us should ditch our prime lenses and run to the nearest shop to buy one of those marvels... ;-) Carlos -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
David Savage wrote: On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once and thought it meant something else. Now, what's VR? VIbration Reduction Nikon's version of IS Overall and generally speaking, how do these superzooms compare to zooms with a lesser focal range? Do they measure up to even those standards? Poorly Dave Actually, there's a couple good ones. The Canon 35-350L and 28-300 IS L are superb, but they're huge monsters of lenses (they're the size of a 300 f2.8, and cost similar amounts), the later versions of the Tamron 28-200 is decent as well. The Nikkor 18-200 VR is pretty good, and acquits itself well in comparison to most mid-range glass of shorter zoom ranges (it's quite comparable to a 18-70DX + 70-300ED kit, apart from the 200-300 range it doesn't cover). The Sigma and Tamron are kit zoom quality at best, and really horrid past 120mm or so. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Mat Maessen wrote: On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? I'd debate the wisdom of the 18-125 vs. a pair of zooms, in the 18-55 and the 50-200, even if he ends up going with the Nikon equivalents (not sure what Nikon has in those focal lengths). The viewfinder on the D80 would probably still keep me out of the system, though I have a friend who is very happy with his D200. -Mat The viewfinder on the D80 is as good or better than a D or DS. I don't see the K10D having a better viewfinder. Nikon's kit zooms are the 18-55DX and 55-200DX. Decent lenses, but not up to the Pentax DA's (The Nikon 55-200 is probably optically as good as the 50-200, but the build quality is distinctly worse). _Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: Re: K10D vs D80
On 9/30/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/30/06, Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. [...] I doubt I can compete with that recommendation from one of the greats. I'll just tell my friend to go Nikon. I was just sayin'. :) Amita -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
It's small, light and decent. But not up to the quality of Nikon's 70-200VR and 28-70 AF-S or 17-55 AF-S. Ken's an idiot, but we all know that already. But he has shot with it (And used it in his 50mm comparison, which included test shots). -Adam Rick Womer wrote: I wonder if Kenny-boy has bothered to shoot with it before recommending it. If he shot with it, I wonder if he bothered to look at the pix. Cynical me. Rick --- Amita Guha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
K10D viewfinder IS beter than the one of the D IMO. Check before stating things. I did. 2006/9/30, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mat Maessen wrote: On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? I'd debate the wisdom of the 18-125 vs. a pair of zooms, in the 18-55 and the 50-200, even if he ends up going with the Nikon equivalents (not sure what Nikon has in those focal lengths). The viewfinder on the D80 would probably still keep me out of the system, though I have a friend who is very happy with his D200. -Mat The viewfinder on the D80 is as good or better than a D or DS. I don't see the K10D having a better viewfinder. Nikon's kit zooms are the 18-55DX and 55-200DX. Decent lenses, but not up to the Pentax DA's (The Nikon 55-200 is probably optically as good as the 50-200, but the build quality is distinctly worse). _Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thibault Massart aka Thibouille -- *ist-D,Z1,SuperA,KX,MX, P30t and KR-10x ;) ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
I suspect if you put the K10D's Bright Matte II screen into the D or DS, you'll be pleasantly surprised (provided they're compatible, which I hope for). The new screen (introduced with the DL) is very bright. However, I'd rate the D200 finder as being better than the D's by a mild margin. So I still don't expect the K10D's finder to be better than a D200 or D80. -Adam Thibouille wrote: K10D viewfinder IS beter than the one of the D IMO. Check before stating things. I did. 2006/9/30, Adam Maas [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mat Maessen wrote: On 9/29/06, Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? I'd debate the wisdom of the 18-125 vs. a pair of zooms, in the 18-55 and the 50-200, even if he ends up going with the Nikon equivalents (not sure what Nikon has in those focal lengths). The viewfinder on the D80 would probably still keep me out of the system, though I have a friend who is very happy with his D200. -Mat The viewfinder on the D80 is as good or better than a D or DS. I don't see the K10D having a better viewfinder. Nikon's kit zooms are the 18-55DX and 55-200DX. Decent lenses, but not up to the Pentax DA's (The Nikon 55-200 is probably optically as good as the 50-200, but the build quality is distinctly worse). _Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Mark Roberts wrote: Mat Maessen wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? It's not just you :) Actually, it makes a lot of sense for the average consumer, who will never own more than 1-2 lenses (more than likely 1 lens if they get the superzoom). Why not buy a system based on the only lens you're ever going to use? We're the outliers, not the folks who buy a body and 1-2 lenses. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
On Sat, Sep 30, 2006 at 02:40:38PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote: Mat Maessen wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? It's not just you :) Still, it seems a slightly more informed choice than picking a camera system because a well-known (and quite attractive) tennis player shows up in the TV commercials ... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Mat Maessen wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? It's not just you :) -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Mark Roberts wrote: Mat Maessen wrote: Is it just me, or does it seem like a bad idea to make a decision on a camera system based on a single consumer-zoom lens? It's not just you :) Of course, if you're going to do it, why settle for a measly 17-200? Go with this Tamron and you'll lose 1mm at the wide end but you'll get to 250mm at the telephoto end! http://www.dpreview.com/news/0609/06093001tamron18250.asp -- Mark Roberts Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com 412-687-2835 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
It really depends on your expectations. I've been using the SMC-P FA 28-200mm on the D and Ds and it makes a fine lightweight, if not particularly compact event lens. I wasn't happy with it on film, it was a bit soft in the corners and edges at the long end and suffered from noticeable barrel distortion at the short end, but it seems to out resolve the 6mp sensors, and most of the problems areas are cropped out. I don't have any experience with super zooms aimed specially at DSLRs but I would expect that you'd have to be willing to put up with some loss of image quality to gain the convenience. Now the interesting thing about the 28-200 is that a couple of friends of mine have ZLR cameras who's built in lenses cover exactly the same range as the 28-200mm, (AOV ~42-300 in 35mm terms), does on a DSLR. I'm not sure why that should be. Shel Belinkoff wrote: Superzoom = wide focal range. OK, thanks. I heard the term mentioned once and thought it meant something else. Now, what's VR? Overall and generally speaking, how do these superzooms compare to zooms with a lesser focal range? Do they measure up to even those standards? Shel [Original Message] From: Adam Maas Superzooms. The Sigma and Tamron 18-200's, and the Nikkor, which is significantly better optically, 1/2 stop faster at the long end and 3-4x the price (Although much of the price difference is in the VR) Shel Belinkoff wrote: What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? [Original Message] From: Amita Guha If he goes with Nikon, he also has the option of the 18-200mm, which is supposed to be superb for its class. -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
AII. Ken Rockwell Gasp The master of all things photographic, the man who does hands on reviews of equipment made out of unobtainium, (at least as far as he would know since he's never actually had his hands on it), (and admits it in his hands on reviews). That KEN ROCKWELL? Well then I'm just going to have to switch to Nikon get that lens and junk all my Pentax gear. Amita Guha wrote: On 9/30/06, Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What class is that - wide focal range zooms (what else is in that class?), price range, quality range? What lenses are in those classes? I guess you'd call it a digital superzoom. All prices @ BH: Nikon 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G DX VR AF-S $ 749.95 Sigma 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 DC $ 379.00 Tamron 18-200mm f/3.5-6.3 Di II AF $ 389.00 Then there is the full-frame Tokina 24-200mm f/3.5-5.6 AT-X AF, $ 299.95 PopPhoto says the Nikon is the best superzoom they've seen optically, and Ken Rockwell claims it's replaced most of the lenses in his bag, including primes. It's quite a popular lens from what I've seen on Nikon message boards. Amita -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
K10D vs D80
A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). I told him the kit DA18-55 is very good, but that I don't think Pentax has anything equivalent to Nikon's 18-135. Is that so? Anything else I should tell him? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: K10D vs D80
Coming up is a DA* 50-135, much higher quality than the Nikon, has supersonic motor drive so should be very fast autofoucus, constant aperture v nikons variable aperture, probably more expensive but better quality. Shel [Original Message] From: Juan Buhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Date: 9/29/2006 2:25:26 PM Subject: K10D vs D80 A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). I told him the kit DA18-55 is very good, but that I don't think Pentax has anything equivalent to Nikon's 18-135. Is that so? Anything else I should tell him? j -- Juan Buhler - http://www.jbuhler.com photoblog: http://photoblog.jbuhler.com a book: http://www.jbuhler.com/book.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
Hi, There are a couple 3rd party options comparable in functionality to Nikon's 18-135, although probably not in par in terms of quality, and definitely not supersonic driven: Sigma 18-125 F3.5-5.6 DC Sigma 18-200 F3.5-6.3 DC Tamron 18-200 F3.5-6.3 XR Di II I know nothing about the image quality of the Tamron. I own the Tokina 18-125 and I'm quite happy with it. Very convenient, and gives surprisingly good results given the price. Again, it is probably not as sharp as the Nikon, but the prices can't be compared neither. I can provide sample shots (with *ist DS) if needed. C'mon Pentax, please crank out some all-purpose wide-range hyperzoom 18-100+ with that supersonic drive thing! Patrice Juan Buhler a écrit : A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). I told him the kit DA18-55 is very good, but that I don't think Pentax has anything equivalent to Nikon's 18-135. Is that so? Anything else I should tell him? j -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: K10D vs D80
I haven't heard of anything from Pentax. I just checked the lens road map and there doesn't seem to be anything in the near future either.+ Juan Buhler wrote: A coworker of mine asked my opinion. He's about to buy a DSLR, and his main two options are a Nikon D80 and a K10D. Of course, I suggested he goes with the K10D, saying that its specs are closer to a D200 than to a D80. He's leaning towards it, but says that he likes that Nikon has an 18-135 lens--he doesn't want to carry any extra lenses (!). I told him the kit DA18-55 is very good, but that I don't think Pentax has anything equivalent to Nikon's 18-135. Is that so? Anything else I should tell him? j -- Things should be made as simple as possible -- but no simpler. --Albert Einstein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
