Re: Monitor Opinion.

[steve harley]

On 2015-12-16 16:04 , P.J. Alling wrote:

ASUS R240HY bidx


with DVI & HDMI i'd say that's a better choice; you are looking at the 
low-end of flat panel displays, but that's still probably pretty good by the 
standards of a few years ago; both of these displays have a stand that only 
tilts, which i would find frustrating; the Acer also has faster refresh and 
a cleaner design (thin bezel) so between the two i'd say it wins


but if you can afford it, i would suggest at least a 27" monitor — not one 
of the really cheap 1920x1080 models, but 2560x1440 — because the extra 
pixels make a big difference with photography


Wirecutter currently recommends Dell UltraSharp U2715H, which is $400 at 
Newegg; i would guess it would have much better color than the models you 
looked at, but there are probably some cheaper 27" models which aren't too 
bad; you can see how they chose it here:




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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[steve harley]

On 2015-12-16 14:30 , P.J. Alling wrote:

The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little faster,
and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti glare coating on
a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really there's little to
choose between them in based on specifications.


i would skip the Dell — it seems to have only a VGA connection, which means 
your converting to analog and back to digital again to display anything


i don't find an Acer SE2416H — that's the exact same model number as the 
Dell, so i wonder if you mistyped?


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Monitor Opinion.

[P.J. Alling]

Since my NEC Superscan CRT had power supply issues a few months ago, 
I've been looking for a high quality display for photo editing, that 
won't break the bank.  I think I found it well them really, but the 
price really seems to be too good to be true, both available from Amazon 
for less than $130.00 US.


The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type 
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little 
faster, and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti 
glare coating on a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really 
there's little to choose between them in based on specifications.


Everything else in that price range seems to be a significantly smaller 
display or TN display or both.  I can't seem to find decent decent 
reviews of either that gives a photographers perspective.


Does anyone have any experience with either of these?

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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Larry Colen]

They are not nearly so cheap, but there are apparently Korean 
equivalents of the apple 27" monitor out there for very good prices.  I 
don't remember the details.


I thought I got a good deal on an HP ZR2740w from B  I eventually, 
after a couple of tries, got a replacement that seems to work fairly 
well, but I would not recommend that monitor.



P.J. Alling wrote:

Since my NEC Superscan CRT had power supply issues a few months ago,
I've been looking for a high quality display for photo editing, that
won't break the bank. I think I found it well them really, but the price
really seems to be too good to be true, both available from Amazon for
less than $130.00 US.

The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little
faster, and connectivity includes a DVI port, the Dell has an anti glare
coating on a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really
there's little to choose between them in based on specifications.

Everything else in that price range seems to be a significantly smaller
display or TN display or both. I can't seem to find decent decent
reviews of either that gives a photographers perspective.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?



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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Rick Womer]

I have a Dell u2407 at work, and a u2410 at home. They are both
excellent wide-gamut monitors that were very reasonably priced.

I don't think any of their current 24in monitors are wide-gamut, though.

Rick
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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:30 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
> Since my NEC Superscan CRT had power supply issues a few months ago, I've
> been looking for a high quality display for photo editing, that won't break
> the bank.  I think I found it well them really, but the price really seems
> to be too good to be true, both available from Amazon for less than $130.00
> US.
>
> The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
> monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little faster,
> and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti glare coating on
> a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really there's little to
> choose between them in based on specifications.
>
> Everything else in that price range seems to be a significantly smaller
> display or TN display or both.  I can't seem to find decent decent reviews
> of either that gives a photographers perspective.
>
> Does anyone have any experience with either of these?
>
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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[P.J. Alling]

Copy and paste error...

ASUS R240HY bidx

On 12/16/2015 5:58 PM, steve harley wrote:

On 2015-12-16 14:30 , P.J. Alling wrote:

The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little 
faster,
and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti glare 
coating on

a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really there's little to
choose between them in based on specifications.


i would skip the Dell — it seems to have only a VGA connection, which 
means your converting to analog and back to digital again to display 
anything


i don't find an Acer SE2416H — that's the exact same model number as 
the Dell, so i wonder if you mistyped?





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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Paul Stenquist]

Go for the whole kahuna: an iMac27 with the 5K Retina display. It's amazing.

Paul via phone

> On Dec 16, 2015, at 5:58 PM, steve harley  wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-12-16 14:30 , P.J. Alling wrote:
>> The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
>> monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little faster,
>> and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti glare coating on
>> a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really there's little to
>> choose between them in based on specifications.
> 
> i would skip the Dell — it seems to have only a VGA connection, which means 
> your converting to analog and back to digital again to display anything
> 
> i don't find an Acer SE2416H — that's the exact same model number as the 
> Dell, so i wonder if you mistyped?
> 
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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Paul]

A little pricier, but I have the ASUS PA249Q.  Has both sRGB and Adobe 
RBG gamuts.  Had a very positive writeup in Shutterbug a year or so ago. 
 There's probably an upgraded model in that family out by now.


-p

On 12/16/2015 3:30 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:

Since my NEC Superscan CRT had power supply issues a few months ago,
I've been looking for a high quality display for photo editing, that
won't break the bank.  I think I found it well them really, but the
price really seems to be too good to be true, both available from Amazon
for less than $130.00 US.

The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little
faster, and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti
glare coating on a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really
there's little to choose between them in based on specifications.

Everything else in that price range seems to be a significantly smaller
display or TN display or both.  I can't seem to find decent decent
reviews of either that gives a photographers perspective.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?



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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Igor PDML-StR]

P.J.,

Steve made a good point  that the Dell monitor has only VGA (and HDMI)
connector.
http://www1.la.dell.com/vc/en/corp/peripherals/dell-se2416h-monitor/pd.aspx?refid=dell-se2416h-monitor=corp
While HDMI is digital, from experience, I am thinking that DVI is more 
convenient. (HDMI had some limitations, if I remember correctly.)



In any case, - if you'd be considering a high-resoltion 27" monitor,
before buying it, make sure your video-card supports that resolution.
AFAIK, some 2560x1440 (especially the cheaper ones) do not support
lower resolution modes at all.

Igor



 steve harley Wed, 16 Dec 2015 15:38:17 -0800 wrote:

On 2015-12-16 16:04 , P.J. Alling wrote:

with DVI & HDMI i'd say that's a better choice; you are looking at the 
low-end of flat panel displays, but that's still probably pretty good by 
the standards of a few years ago; both of these displays have a stand that 
only tilts, which i would find frustrating; the Acer also has faster 
refresh and a cleaner design (thin bezel) so between the two i'd say it 
wins



but if you can afford it, i would suggest at least a 27" monitor . not one 
of the really cheap 1920x1080 models, but 2560x1440 . because the extra 
pixels make a big difference with photography


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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Philip Northeast]

i have a Dell U231H and it is very good for photo editing and was 
reasonably priced, as well as a 27 iMac with Retina display that is 
amazing .


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On 17/12/2015 10:25 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

Go for the whole kahuna: an iMac27 with the 5K Retina display. It's amazing.

Paul via phone


On Dec 16, 2015, at 5:58 PM, steve harley  wrote:


On 2015-12-16 14:30 , P.J. Alling wrote:
The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little faster,
and connectivity includes a DVI port,  the Dell has an anti glare coating on
a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really there's little to
choose between them in based on specifications.


i would skip the Dell — it seems to have only a VGA connection, which means 
your converting to analog and back to digital again to display anything

i don't find an Acer SE2416H — that's the exact same model number as the Dell, 
so i wonder if you mistyped?

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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Rick Womer]

U2715 has only the sRGB color gamut. If you're printing and want Adobe RGB, you 
won't see what you're gonna get.

Rick

On Dec 16, 2015, at 6:36 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2015-12-16 16:04 , P.J. Alling wrote:
>> ASUS R240HY bidx
> 
> with DVI & HDMI i'd say that's a better choice; you are looking at the 
> low-end of flat panel displays, but that's still probably pretty good by the 
> standards of a few years ago; both of these displays have a stand that only 
> tilts, which i would find frustrating; the Acer also has faster refresh and a 
> cleaner design (thin bezel) so between the two i'd say it wins
> 
> but if you can afford it, i would suggest at least a 27" monitor — not one of 
> the really cheap 1920x1080 models, but 2560x1440 — because the extra pixels 
> make a big difference with photography
> 
> Wirecutter currently recommends Dell UltraSharp U2715H, which is $400 at 
> Newegg; i would guess it would have much better color than the models you 
> looked at, but there are probably some cheaper 27" models which aren't too 
> bad; you can see how they chose it here:
> 
> 
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Re: Monitor Opinion.

[Larry Colen]

http://www.amazon.com/Nixeus-27-Inch-Resolution-2560x1440-NX-VUE27/dp/B008M08SN6 
 27" IPS 2560x1440 $375


Larry Colen wrote:

They are not nearly so cheap, but there are apparently Korean
equivalents of the apple 27" monitor out there for very good prices. I
don't remember the details.

I thought I got a good deal on an HP ZR2740w from B I eventually,
after a couple of tries, got a replacement that seems to work fairly
well, but I would not recommend that monitor.


P.J. Alling wrote:

Since my NEC Superscan CRT had power supply issues a few months ago,
I've been looking for a high quality display for photo editing, that
won't break the bank. I think I found it well them really, but the price
really seems to be too good to be true, both available from Amazon for
less than $130.00 US.

The Dell SE2416H and the Acer SE2416H, both are nominally 24" IPS type
monitors, the Acer specifications claim it's refresh rate a little
faster, and connectivity includes a DVI port, the Dell has an anti glare
coating on a protective front panel, and is a bit heavier, really
there's little to choose between them in based on specifications.

Everything else in that price range seems to be a significantly smaller
display or TN display or both. I can't seem to find decent decent
reviews of either that gives a photographers perspective.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these?





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