Re: More Limited products from Pentax
Aaron Reynolds writes: Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX, Take heart, I am living proof that they're out there. (Found one for $400 CDN.) A guy at work owns two LX bodies and has told me he's getting interested in going digital. Now I've got an ethical dilemma: keep him away from the dark side (or is that dark slide), or give his LXen a good home :) Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Limited products from Pentax
- Original Message - From: David A. Mann Subject: Re: More Limited products from Pentax A guy at work owns two LX bodies and has told me he's getting interested in going digital. Now I've got an ethical dilemma: keep him away from the dark side (or is that dark slide), or give his LXen a good home :) Tell him the LX is outdated, high maintenance equipment. Re-inforce his decision to go digital, while at the same time, undermine his confidence in the LXen. By the time you are done, if you do it smart, you should be able to get the LX for just about nothing. Good luck William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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The joke goes: There are 2 kinds of people. Those that divide people into 2 groups and those in the other group. Kent Gittings -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clive Williams Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 4:25 PM To: Pentax Discuss Subject: RE: More Limited products from Pentax This could turn into one of those dangerous games that begin There are two kinds of people... (Those that categorize people into two types, and ...? grin) I can certainly see myself in what Mick describes in (i), though, with the perhaps the proviso that reading the extraordinary depth and breadth of knowledge on this list can turn one into more of a connoisseur than one intended. I just wish I'd discovered it before I embarked on parenthood-induced penury, although I got here just in time - can you imagine how I'd feel if I'd seen my son's first smile through a Tokina?? Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX, Clive. P.S. And of course, if that Limited 22mm ever comes along... Mick wrote: I think there are many more divisions that that, I would chance at another two: i) Those who would like to be connoisseur cant afford to be, so are very selective in what and if they buy, sometimes accepting non top notch on a cost benefit basis, but always wanting the best. ii) Those who just must have the latest and rarest because of that, not necessarily because it's the best. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com ** - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Limited products from Pentax
William Robb writes: Tell him the LX is outdated, high maintenance equipment. Re-inforce his decision to go digital, while at the same time, undermine his confidence in the LXen. By the time you are done, if you do it smart, you should be able to get the LX for just about nothing. Too late, I think. I've told him in the past just how good those things are. All I can do is offer them a good home (and tempt them with some A* glass) and hope he doesn't charge me ebay prices :) I was talking to the owner of the camera shop last night and he told me how he found an LX at an insurance auction. It had been in a 4WD which overturned in a river. The camera had been stored somewhere around roof- level so it spent a few hours underwater. He picked it up for 50 bucks (NZ dollars, worth about half that in US currency) and it still works today without repair, over 10 years later. Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Limited products from Pentax
David A. Mann wrote: A guy at work owns two LX bodies and has told me he's getting interested in going digital. Now I've got an ethical dilemma: keep him away from the dark side (or is that dark slide), or give his LXen a good home :) Tell him to hold on to one of them and sell the other to you. Dilemma solved! -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I'm curious. I had a SuperProgram for many years. What aspect of the SuperProgram are you wanting that isn't covered by a ZX-5n or MZ-S. I find the usage of the bodies just mentioned quite similar to the SuperProgram. So shed some light on what you like so much. Thanks, Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: Ed Dombek [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 11:02 PM Subject: Re: More Limited products from Pentax I'd be happy to see a Super Program that did AF! Actually, I'd be dancin' in the streets! Pål Jensen wrote: Pentax have recently informed their organization that they will start market products that are not ment for the masses. These are low volume, niche products. I assume the Lmited lenses are part of this product series. This can be seen in the light of the Pentax camera division boss recent statement that he will make a camera the owners would like to take to their graves and an LX with AF. Ed Dombek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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- Original Message - From: Ed Dombek Subject: Re: More Limited products from Pentax I'd be happy to see a Super Program that did AF! Actually, I'd be dancin' in the streets! MZ-5 is pretty close, at least in it's philosophy. It adds multi pattern metering to the feature set. Of course, you have to put up with an autowinder all the time, but it is, at least, a fairly quiet one. William Robb - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: More Limited products from Pentax
Bruce: My first SLR was a SuperProgram which I had until last year. I replaced it with a ZX-5n. I was happy with the SP and am happy with the ZX-5n. But 1. I think the Viewfinder was MUCH easier to use and more importantly see in the SP. It certainly was brighter. 2. I miss the split field focusing when in manual. My dream is that the Viewfinder display/screen could change when I select manual on the 5n to a split focusing screen and the zoned view when in AF. I'd buy that it a minute! (I don't know if it is technically feasible but that would me something IMHO). Now the reason why I went with the ZX-5n: 1. Auto-focus. My teenage stepsons and wife will now use the camera. Which makes it more fun for all of us. 2. Pop-up flash. Just convenience. I do also have a Phoenix ZBIF-92P though. 3. The battery pack FG is a perfect accessory. I had a Winder ME II with the SP but it still required the button batteries. The heft of the 5n is perfect with battery pack. I am having a blast with the 5n and have spent way too much money on lens. (Just bought a SMC-F 85mm f/2.8 Soft on eBay.) I'm taking the camera with me more like I used to so that has to be a good thing. Bruce Dayton wrote: I'm curious. I had a SuperProgram for many years. What aspect of the SuperProgram are you wanting that isn't covered by a ZX-5n or MZ-S. I find the usage of the bodies just mentioned quite similar to the SuperProgram. So shed some light on what you like so much. Ed Dombek _ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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The camera reads the encoded film speed, however, you can over-ride it. It is more safety than anything. There have been times in the past, when in the heat of the moment, I have shot at the wrong speed, with no way of recapturing. My mistake of course. Bruce Dayton Sacramento, CA - Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2001 9:08 AM Subject: Re: More Limited products from Pentax Bruce Dayton wrote, re the 5n: I also like DX reading of the film speed. Do you mean to say that you can only use the encoded film speed, or can the camera be set to override the DX speed? -- Shel Belinkoff - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Me? No ... I thought about getting one when someone on the list offered one for sale, but we couldn't come to terms. tom wrote: It can be overridden. I thought you had a 5n? -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: More Limited products from Pentax
This could turn into one of those dangerous games that begin There are two kinds of people... (Those that categorize people into two types, and ...? grin) I can certainly see myself in what Mick describes in (i), though, with the perhaps the proviso that reading the extraordinary depth and breadth of knowledge on this list can turn one into more of a connoisseur than one intended. I just wish I'd discovered it before I embarked on parenthood-induced penury, although I got here just in time - can you imagine how I'd feel if I'd seen my son's first smile through a Tokina?? Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX, Clive. P.S. And of course, if that Limited 22mm ever comes along... Mick wrote: I think there are many more divisions that that, I would chance at another two: i) Those who would like to be connoisseur cant afford to be, so are very selective in what and if they buy, sometimes accepting non top notch on a cost benefit basis, but always wanting the best. ii) Those who just must have the latest and rarest because of that, not necessarily because it's the best. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Clive Williams wrote: Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX, Take heart, I am living proof that they're out there. (Found one for $400 CDN.) -Aaron - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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And, you'll recall, I traded an SF-10 for one. Doug nyah nyah nyah At 6:29 PM -040010/3/01, Aaron Reynolds wrote, or at least typed: Clive Williams wrote: Still waiting to stumble on that irresistible-bargain LX, Take heart, I am living proof that they're out there. (Found one for $400 CDN.) -Aaron -- Douglas Forrest Brewer Ashwood Lake Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.alphoto.com - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I'd be happy to see a Super Program that did AF! Actually, I'd be dancin' in the streets! Pål Jensen wrote: Pentax have recently informed their organization that they will start market products that are not ment for the masses. These are low volume, niche products. I assume the Lmited lenses are part of this product series. This can be seen in the light of the Pentax camera division boss recent statement that he will make a camera the owners would like to take to their graves and an LX with AF. Ed Dombek _ - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
More Limited products from Pentax
Pentax have recently informed their organization that they will start market products that are not ment for the masses. These are low volume, niche products. I assume the Lmited lenses are part of this product series. This can be seen in the light of the Pentax camera division boss recent statement that he will make a camera the owners would like to take to their graves and an LX with AF. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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It would be wonderful if Pentax exploited the various niche markets and produced some very high-quality cameras and optics. Perhaps the cameras could have a minimal set of features in exchange for superior quality and durability. Likewise for the lenses. I for one would gladly pay top dollar for equipment such as this. I'd also like to see Pentax come out with a rangefinder body that could use not only their lenses (like the 43mm Ltd they made in Leica Thread mount) but Leica lenses as well as lenses for other, earlier rangefinder cameras. A simple adapter could be used to couple various lenses to the Pentax body (as is already being done for other cameras). Pentax could produce all they want of the bread and butter lines of cameras, and offer something superior to those who want more unique or specialized offerings. Pål Jensen wrote: Pentax have recently informed their organization that they will start market products that are not ment for the masses. These are low volume, niche products. I assume the Lmited lenses are part of this product series. This can be seen in the light of the Pentax camera division boss recent statement that he will make a camera the owners would like to take to their graves and an LX with AF. -- Shel Belinkoff mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Pål Jensen wrote: This can be seen in the light of the Pentax camera division boss recent statement that he will make a camera the owners would like to take to their graves and an LX with AF. If Pentax produces a camera with a resucitator, I'll certainly buy one, even if it has AF. :-) -- --- Juan J. Buhler | Sr. FX Animator @ PDI | Photos at http://www.jbuhler.com --- - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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Shel wrote: Pentax could produce all they want of the bread and butter lines of cameras, and offer something superior to those who want more unique or specialized offerings. I believe this is pretty much what the camera division boss said in that interview: Pentax will continue making hit products, which I translate into meaning the popular volume stuff. But they would also concentrate on making legends. I do think Pentax have realised the two-fold division of their customer base; this division is easy to spot in this forum. 1) The ones who want a good deal and don't want to spend much money; 2) The Pentax connoisseur who pay whatever it takes in order to get hold of the great, legendary Pentax products. The latter group pay a fortune for legendary K and A* lenses and are willing to pay the price for the Limited lenses. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
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I think there are many more divisions that that, I would chance at another two: i) Those who would like to be connoisseur cant afford to be, so are very selective in what and if they buy, sometimes accepting non top notch on a cost benefit basis, but always wanting the best. ii) Those who just must have the latest and rarest because of that not necessarily because it's the best. Regards, /\/\ick... ++ || __/) Mick Maguire | | Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (_/) ICQ: 48609010 | \/ | \ /---+ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Pål Jensen Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 2:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: More Limited products from Pentax Shel wrote: Pentax could produce all they want of the bread and butter lines of cameras, and offer something superior to those who want more unique or specialized offerings. I believe this is pretty much what the camera division boss said in that interview: Pentax will continue making hit products, which I translate into meaning the popular volume stuff. But they would also concentrate on making legends. I do think Pentax have realised the two-fold division of their customer base; this division is easy to spot in this forum. 1) The ones who want a good deal and don't want to spend much money; 2) The Pentax connoisseur who pay whatever it takes in order to get hold of the great, legendary Pentax products. The latter group pay a fortune for legendary K and A* lenses and are willing to pay the price for the Limited lenses. Pål - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
