Re: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts
On 30/3/10, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed: And, in addition to that, you can use 75-year-old lenses Actually this is a good point. Tot up all the lenses it would be possible to use on a Pentax. We must be talking at least a hundred or so. Anyone know? Including the 3rd party lenses of course and any needing adapters just for good measure -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts
In the Pentax K mount line alone there are about 150 different prime
lenses in K mount, (ok about twenty or so are probably different flavors
of normal), about another 100 zooms, (once again about 20 or so are
different kit zooms).. Counting third party lenses we're talking about
literely thousands of useful focal lengths, with little exaggeration
there are probably hundreds of gems among them.
On 3/31/2010 2:28 AM, Cotty wrote:
On 30/3/10, eactiv...@aol.com, discombobulated, unleashed:
And, in addition to that, you can use
75-year-old lenses
Actually this is a good point.
Tot up all the lenses it would be possible to use on a Pentax. We must
be talking at least a hundred or so. Anyone know? Including the 3rd
party lenses of course and any needing adapters just for good measure
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OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts
Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Welcome aboard. Just don't listen to Frank or Cotty and you'll be fine. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Look em square in the eyes and say: Fuck off clown.. Dave B PS seriously, gently remind them that your image stabilization does not cost and arm and a leg,, and 1/2 a kidney. Pentax is more back words compatable than Nikon or Canon, and best of all, no one steals Penatx cameras, ask Rob. Dave B(a Nikon and Penatx shooter.) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:21:25 -0400 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Diane Arbus ran a workshop with the express purpose of raising the funds to buy a Pentax... I think you are ok without comebacks but I am sure you will get some. my favourite response was and the lens is from 1975 and I have shake reduction. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3/30/2010 4:21 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Christine, I am thinking that: 1. As a immediate response you might point them to http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com and indicate that all photos therein are made with Pentax gear. 2. As a midterm response you might have to bring in some of your favorite photographs printed, say in A3 size to show them that the light goes more or less in the same manner through you gear as it does through theirs. 3. As a longterm response you might simply point out that it is not the gear who makes the shot, but the photographer, so that if you give Canon 1D MK IV or Nikon D3S or whatever to a chimpanzee, it is unlikely to produce stellar pictures just by virtue of the label thereupon. HTH. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You've discovered my secret weapon..but don't let that intimidate you, I know I have an equipment advantage, but please give ME full credit for my accomplishments in this class, ..or, I just felt the pressure lift. Seems I've been handed an excuse for failure. Actually, I'm pleased to expect full credit for my work here and extra credit for overcoming my inferior equipment. Perhaps I'll be teaching some in this class. High five, Christine!! Jack --- On Tue, 3/30/10, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Subject: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts To: pdml@pdml.net Date: Tuesday, March 30, 2010, 6:21 AM Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts
Sadly she'll probably be teaching features more than photography.
On 3/30/2010 8:21 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
Hello all,
I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know
that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation:
Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to
the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How
many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the
NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She
looks at me surprised, Sony?
Nope. Pentax.
Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you
/really/?
I really do.
Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not
feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking,
instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good
comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and
independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say
to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have
something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative
Lighting workshop.
:)
Thanks!
Christine
www.crapmanagement.com
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Re: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts
Simply tell them that you let your photos impress not the brand name on the camera. jm -- From: Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:21 AM To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I might say Have you seen the new Pentax 645D, it's a medium format digital. How is CaNikon doing on theirs, or don't they have one? Then I'd say Before I sit down to any gourmet meal, I ask what kind of pots they use, not who the chef is. Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Bran Everseeking bran.everseek...@sasktel.net wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:21:25 -0400 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Diane Arbus ran a workshop with the express purpose of raising the funds to buy a Pentax... I think you are ok without comebacks but I am sure you will get some. my favourite response was and the lens is from 1975 and I have shake reduction. -- Love is that condition in which the happiness of another person is essential to your own... Jealousy is a disease, love is a healthy condition.- Robert Heinlein -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. You _do_ know what bokeh is, don't you? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Before I sit down to any gourmet meal, I ask what kind of pots they use, not who the chef is. Wow, Bob, that is devastatingly good enough to make me suspect you have an abusive personality. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You got a problem with ABUSIVE PERSONALITIES ! ! ! :-)Regards, Bob S. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:03 AM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Before I sit down to any gourmet meal, I ask what kind of pots they use, not who the chef is. Wow, Bob, that is devastatingly good enough to make me suspect you have an abusive personality. : ) Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: You got a problem with ABUSIVE PERSONALITIES ! ! ! :-) Regards, Bob S. Takes one to know one, my mother always said! hee hee! Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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The best response would be to show her a copy of last years PDML annual. I don't suppose you live close enough to someone to borrow one for the evening? It's really too late to respond to what she said without sounding like an insecure dork. On the spot a reply that I would have been tempted with, but wouldn't have worked for you is I already have a penis, so I didn't need to buy one at the camera store. Chances are her concern is based a lot on her not knowing anything about Pentax gear. She probably knows Canon, and can figure her way around Nikon but is clueless on how to deal with Pentax. On Mar 30, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:22 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: She probably knows Canon, and can figure her way around Nikon but is clueless on how to deal with Pentax. Ask her what gear she shoots with. When she replies Canon, take a pause, then say. Sorry to hear that, something better will come along i';m sure,. Dave -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So now your 365 is over you just can't put the camera down, huh? :-) Whenever I am in that situation, it tends to be a Canon Digital Rebel shooter who is questioning my choice. I start off by asking how much they paid for their camera, which is usually around $700. Then I hand them my K10D and proceed to eloquently point out all the features it has which their digital rebel lacks (image stabilisation, weather seals, good VF, two e-dials, in-camera JPEG developing, DNG capability, quick access *buttons*, TAv, the feel and solidity of a real camera, etc, etc, etc). Then I take my camera back and say: It cost the same as *your* camera. You'll be surprised how this technique still works even today, when I compare my 2006 K10D with 2009 digital rebels. In a classroom setting such as yours, I would actually be insulted that the *TEACHER* would be prejudiced in that fashion. Any teacher who doesn't know what Pentax stands for in the World of Photography should not be teaching classes. If she were teaching sports photography, it might be another story, but she isn't. You can take portraits with a toilet paper roll, some glass and film in a box if you really need to. But welcome back to the group, Christine :-) --M. -- http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 30 March 2010 09:21, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? Good grief, that wasn't confusion and concern, that was fear. Malcolm -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Mar 30, 2010, at 11:22 AM, Larry Colen wrote: The best response would be to show her a copy of last years PDML annual. I don't suppose you live close enough to someone to borrow one for the evening? It's really too late to respond to what she said without sounding like an insecure dork. On the spot a reply that I would have been tempted with, but wouldn't have worked for you is I already have a penis, so I didn't need to buy one at the camera store. Uh, I believe the person who raised the question is a lady. So that probably wouldn't work very well for her:-). Paul Chances are her concern is based a lot on her not knowing anything about Pentax gear. She probably knows Canon, and can figure her way around Nikon but is clueless on how to deal with Pentax. On Mar 30, 2010, at 6:21 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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With that type of attitude, I'd question whether I would want to continue with that instructors. Likely you'll find she posseses additional opinions that are baseless and subjective. I thought it wasn't about the equipment. Tom On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 7:21 AM, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 30/3/10, Christine Nielsen, discombobulated, unleashed: What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place Hi Christine, some lovely photos on your blog - welcome to the group. I chose Pentax because I don't like following trends HTH -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-03-30 07:21 , Christine Nielsen wrote: Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. ask her to let the class know whenever someone's brand choice is obviously affecting their results -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: The best response would be to show her a copy of last years PDML annual. I don't suppose you live close enough to someone to borrow one for the evening? Best answer yet. Until the 2010 book comes out... (I'm hoping to finish it in the next week to 10 days) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Christine Nielsen Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) I merely point out that *ALL* of my lenses are stabilized; that I can even still use Pentax's *LEGENDARY* screw mount optics when I wish and let the quality of my results say whatever else needs saying. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Even if she were teaching sports photography. When I was taking
Photojournalism the instructor, the photography editor at the Providence
Journal, (at the time probably the best Newspaper in New England),
commented that my Spotmatic was the preferred camera of the sports
photographers on the paper.
On 3/30/2010 10:27 AM, Miserere wrote:
So now your 365 is over you just can't put the camera down, huh? :-)
Whenever I am in that situation, it tends to be a Canon Digital Rebel
shooter who is questioning my choice. I start off by asking how much
they paid for their camera, which is usually around $700. Then I hand
them my K10D and proceed to eloquently point out all the features it
has which their digital rebel lacks (image stabilisation, weather
seals, good VF, two e-dials, in-camera JPEG developing, DNG
capability, quick access *buttons*, TAv, the feel and solidity of a
real camera, etc, etc, etc). Then I take my camera back and say: It
cost the same as *your* camera.
You'll be surprised how this technique still works even today, when I
compare my 2006 K10D with 2009 digital rebels.
In a classroom setting such as yours, I would actually be insulted
that the *TEACHER* would be prejudiced in that fashion. Any teacher
who doesn't know what Pentax stands for in the World of Photography
should not be teaching classes. If she were teaching sports
photography, it might be another story, but she isn't. You can take
portraits with a toilet paper roll, some glass and film in a box if
you really need to.
But welcome back to the group, Christine :-)
--M.
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Cotty wrote: On 30/3/10, Christine Nielsen, discombobulated, unleashed: What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place Hi Christine, some lovely photos on your blog - welcome to the group. I chose Pentax because I don't like following trends HTH -- Cheers, Cotty I agree with Cotty, Christine - and welcome to unlurking mode... I very especially loved this image of the flood. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qrFDWngcduY/S6BJuDB43MI/BkA/RXAVvHVF3YI/s1600-h/1.flood.jpg Once they see your work they'll shut up. Ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/3/30 Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net: Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. Hello Christine, first of all, welcome and happy to see you unlurk. Great blog you have there with some wonderful shots. I agree you have nothing to feel ashamed of. Why don't you tell them Pentax got their name from the invention of the Pentaprism that keeps the image properly oriented in every SLR in the world? Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Wanted -- Snappy Retorts
On 31/03/2010, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) You could just say, yeah I did Consider Nikon and Canon bodies but I think the quality of the glass is more important ;-) -- Rob Studdert (Digital Image Studio) Tel: +61-418-166-870 UTC +10 Hours Gmail, eBay, Skype, Twitter, Facebook, Picasa: distudio -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/3/31 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: On 31/03/2010, Christine Nielsen ch...@inielsen.net wrote: Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) You could just say, yeah I did Consider Nikon and Canon bodies but I think the quality of the glass is more important ;-) Come to think of it, quite a number of our suggested comments (including mine probably) will be lost/wasted on those folks... How about you tell the instructor: Well just tell me WHAT to do; I know my menus... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Simple: Pentax is in a class by itself. ;-) BTW, M., the Rebel does have image stabilization (on the lenses, not the camera, true, Pentax does it on the camera, not the lenses). ...Then if you need to, point out that Pentax has all the same features as the HIGHER END Canon and Nikons (with a slight sneer at any Canon Rebels near by you), but at a lower price. And, in addition to that, you can use 75-year-old lenses on it if you want. Pentax glass is good forever. (Well, I think the M doesn't work that well, but pretty much everything works, somehow.) Marnie aka Doe :-) - A happy Canon Rebel user. Heh. - In a message dated 3/30/2010 6:21:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, ch...@inielsen.net writes: Hello all, I'm kind of new here, been lurking around mostly, but I've seen enough to know that you'll be able to help me Here's my situation: Last night I started the first class of a ten-week workshop on Portraiture. As usually happens, the instructor came to the point where she wanted to get a rough idea of who she was dealing with. How many people shoot Canon? How many are Nikon shooters? She counted the hands that went up, and then, shaking her head side to side in the NO gesture, she said, Does anyone have anything else...? This is when my hand went up. She looks at me surprised, Sony? Nope. Pentax. Her look changes from surprise to an equal mix of confusion and concern. Do you /really/? I really do. Now, I am perfectly confident and comfortable in my choice of gear. I do not feel embarrassed or ashamed. I also prefer to let my photos do the talking, instead of the camera brand. Howeversometimes, I just want a good comeback. Something that demonstrates just how brilliant and independent-minded I am in my choice, and how superior it is. What do you say to the Canikon crowd to put them in their place? I would like to have something ready to go when I go back tonight for the start of the Creative Lighting workshop. :) Thanks! Christine www.crapmanagement.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-03-30 22:41, eactiv...@aol.com wrote: Simple: Pentax is in a class by itself. I'd have a very succinct response: You let your equipment define your art? -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
