Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-31 Thread Rfsindg
Cotty,
LOL, Perhaps you could help me with a few items here.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-31 Thread Cotty
I suppose we're all allowed a gaff or two but I have to say that 
on this performance, I wouldn't be using them again. Naturally I didn't 
tell Nice Chap that - I'm british for drying out loud. I whinge in 
silence and lagter beat up a VHS player. True.

Spellchecking and proofreading is everything:

I suppose we're all allowed a gaff or two but I have to say that 
on this performance, I wouldn't be using them again. Naturally I didn't 
tell Nice Chap that - I'm british for crying out loud. I whinge in 
silence and later beat up a VHS player. True.

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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-31 Thread T Rittenhouse
I like the first version better. g

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Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please


 I suppose we're all allowed a gaff or two but I have to say that 
 on this performance, I wouldn't be using them again. Naturally I didn't 
 tell Nice Chap that - I'm british for drying out loud. I whinge in 
 silence and lagter beat up a VHS player. True.
 
 Spellchecking and proofreading is everything:
 
 I suppose we're all allowed a gaff or two but I have to say that 
 on this performance, I wouldn't be using them again. Naturally I didn't 
 tell Nice Chap that - I'm british for crying out loud. I whinge in 
 silence and later beat up a VHS player. True.
 
 Cotty
 
 
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-30 Thread Cotty
Update. Manfrotto 190 PRO black (89GBP) and 308RC pro ball head (44.95) 
ordered from a very pleasant chap at Camerworld, Oxford St, London. SRS 
was cheapest at 85 but no stock. My local shop had no stock and wanted 95 
and 49, respectively. In this day and age, having the stock is 
everything. Not in stock? No problem, I call someone else and they've got 
it. Now if the shops that had no stock were significantly cheaper, I 
don't mind waiting. But they weren't, and so I do ;-)

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OT: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please)

2002-12-29 Thread Cotty
 I'm not keen on the RC facility though 
 (308RC) as I tend to mount the camera on the sticks and that's it - it 
 stays like that until I'm done for that session. I guess balls aren't 
 that bad, LOL.
 
 Any final thoughts before I hunt for the best price?

There is also a 308 which has no RC :-)

G'day Rob,

Yeah, so it seems: to RC or to RC, that is the question.

My feeling is that I want something as stable as possible with the least 
amount of chance regarding camera-to-tripod accidental seperation 
protocols engaging ;-)

I can see that RC (or QR as the Americans prefer - BTW what does 'RC' 
mean??) has advantages regarding speed of setup, but where speed is not 
an issue, is it better to RC or not? Cost difference is nominal, so I 
would go one way or the other...

What are your thoughts please?

Cotty (but you can call me Bruce to avoid confusion)

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Re: OT: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please)

2002-12-29 Thread Lon Williamson
I thought that RC in Bogen speak was resin coated or resin composite =
the ball doesn't look like metal.

Cotty wrote:
 
  I'm not keen on the RC facility though
  (308RC) as I tend to mount the camera on the sticks and that's it - it
  stays like that until I'm done for that session. I guess balls aren't
  that bad, LOL.
 
  Any final thoughts before I hunt for the best price?
 
 There is also a 308 which has no RC :-)
 
 G'day Rob,
 
 Yeah, so it seems: to RC or to RC, that is the question.
 
 My feeling is that I want something as stable as possible with the least
 amount of chance regarding camera-to-tripod accidental seperation
 protocols engaging ;-)
 
 I can see that RC (or QR as the Americans prefer - BTW what does 'RC'
 mean??) has advantages regarding speed of setup, but where speed is not
 an issue, is it better to RC or not? Cost difference is nominal, so I
 would go one way or the other...
 
 What are your thoughts please?
 
 Cotty (but you can call me Bruce to avoid confusion)
 
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Re: OT: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please)

2002-12-29 Thread Cotty
There is a slight weight advantage to the non RC 450g vs 560g. I have a mini 
210B head (smaller version of the plain 308) on my table top pod and even 
though it's a small set-up it's still a pain to fix the thumb screw, 
fixing the 
QR plate to the camera or lens is much faster and less clumsy. Also if you 
intend at any stage to invest in other Manfrotto heads then it's worth 
noting 
that the 200 series QR plates are used on a number of other heads.

I've no idea why the designation of the QR is RC, maybe it's an Italian 
derivative? They are referred to in the English version of the current 
brochure 
as Quick Release Plates

Thanks Rob, that's just the job. 308RC it is!

RC: Really Convenient?

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Re: OT: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please)

2002-12-29 Thread Keith Whaley


Cotty wrote:
 
 There is a slight weight advantage to the non RC 450g vs 560g. I have a mini
 210B head (smaller version of the plain 308) on my table top pod and even
 though it's a small set-up it's still a pain to fix the thumb screw,
 fixing the
 QR plate to the camera or lens is much faster and less clumsy. Also if you
 intend at any stage to invest in other Manfrotto heads then it's worth
 noting
 that the 200 series QR plates are used on a number of other heads.
 
 I've no idea why the designation of the QR is RC, maybe it's an Italian
 derivative? They are referred to in the English version of the current
 brochure
 as Quick Release Plates
 
 Thanks Rob, that's just the job. 308RC it is!
 
 RC: Really Convenient?
 
 Cot

Right Cwick.

keith




Re: OT: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please)

2002-12-29 Thread Chris Brogden

RC refers to the presence of a quick release plate.  Manfrotto often
makes two versions of a head (eg. 141 and 141RC): one with, and one
lacking, a quick release plate.

chris


On Sun, 29 Dec 2002, Lon Williamson wrote:

 I thought that RC in Bogen speak was resin coated or resin composite =
 the ball doesn't look like metal.

 Cotty wrote:
 
   I'm not keen on the RC facility though
   (308RC) as I tend to mount the camera on the sticks and that's it - it
   stays like that until I'm done for that session. I guess balls aren't
   that bad, LOL.
  
   Any final thoughts before I hunt for the best price?
  
  There is also a 308 which has no RC :-)
 
  G'day Rob,
 
  Yeah, so it seems: to RC or to RC, that is the question.
 
  My feeling is that I want something as stable as possible with the least
  amount of chance regarding camera-to-tripod accidental seperation
  protocols engaging ;-)
 
  I can see that RC (or QR as the Americans prefer - BTW what does 'RC'
  mean??) has advantages regarding speed of setup, but where speed is not
  an issue, is it better to RC or not? Cost difference is nominal, so I
  would go one way or the other...
 
  What are your thoughts please?
 
  Cotty (but you can call me Bruce to avoid confusion)
 
  (Second thoughts, better not)
 
  
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RE: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please)

2002-12-29 Thread Rob Brigham
I am struggling to catch up here, having had a week away from the PC, so
deleting many posts.  Havent a clue what has gone on here over Xmas, but
I hope all had a good one!

In terms of stable, I look at this from a slightly different angle.  I
have an RC plate for every body I have, and it never leaves the body.
That way I can screw it on effing tight and rely on the camera not
twisting if the tripod is tilted sideways.  If you screw the body on in
the field, you are asking for it to come loose at some point if you move
it around a lot.  Sooner or later you wont tighten it enough.  The
manfrotto QR comes with a little clip which stops the release opening
when mounted too.  I like the fact that I can have different films and
or lenses for different bodies and just switch in seconds using the QR.

One thing I would say about the manfrottos is that they get VERY cold on
bare skin if you are carrying them outside.  I recomment some
'leg-warmers' or a sling.  The nature version of the tripod comes with
leg warmers and retractable spikes on the feet which are good too.

I have both the 455 (or 055PRO or whatever it is now) for serious
photography and a little 190NAT for portability.  The 455 gets a bit
eavy over long distances, and the 190 is really pretty good for its
size.

The new sideways mounting centre columns are better than mine because
they are not circular - this stops the problem I have where mine twists
too easily when mounted sideways.

Also someone was asking about the leg levers.  These have been changed
several times over the years aas they have almost always been regarded
as the weak point of manfrottos.  First they added a tightening screw,
then they changed it to an allen bolt or something and clipped a tool
onto the legs to allow you to do it in the field, and not they have
modified that design again as there was some further problem.  The Uk
distributor was issueing free lock upgrades when the new version came
out 4-5 months ago, havent got their details to hand though...

 -Original Message-
 From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: 29 December 2002 11:01
 To: Pentax List
 Subject: OT: To RC or not? (was: Re: OT: Tripod 
 recommendations please)
 
 
  I'm not keen on the RC facility though
  (308RC) as I tend to mount the camera on the sticks and 
 that's it - it 
  stays like that until I'm done for that session. I guess 
 balls aren't 
  that bad, LOL.
  
  Any final thoughts before I hunt for the best price?
 
 There is also a 308 which has no RC :-)
 
 G'day Rob,
 
 Yeah, so it seems: to RC or to RC, that is the question.
 
 My feeling is that I want something as stable as possible 
 with the least 
 amount of chance regarding camera-to-tripod accidental seperation 
 protocols engaging ;-)
 
 I can see that RC (or QR as the Americans prefer - BTW what does 'RC' 
 mean??) has advantages regarding speed of setup, but where 
 speed is not 
 an issue, is it better to RC or not? Cost difference is nominal, so I 
 would go one way or the other...
 
 What are your thoughts please?
 
 Cotty (but you can call me Bruce to avoid confusion)
 
 (Second thoughts, better not)
 
 
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Cotty
Good luck with the 'pod, even though it's for your digital ;-) I
   assume you REALLY don't want to lug around your heavy tripod for
   the betacam or what you guys use :)

Thanks for the tips Frants.

Yep, the tripod I carry around for the day job is Sachtler carbon-fibre 3 
section monster with adjustable spreaders that erects to about six and a 
half feet in height, with fully adjustable pan and tilt fluid head. 
Despite the carbon fibre, it is bloody heavy. Supplied by my employer, I 
think it cost about 3 grand (GBP) about two years ago. I haven't managed 
to break it (yet).

It has a locking plate on the top that accepts the camera (Betacam) and 
here I have jigged up a small metal plate with a bush that will take a 
still camera for those times when I'm packing 35 mil, er digi, er, I mean 
35 mil, well, you know, either...

Basically it's far too heavy to take out on an Opportunescape ramble, 
hence the tripod appeal. Actually, I have been using Her Indoors' Velbon 
Digit Eater VEF-3 that has leg-locking mechanisms that would do admirable 
service in the engine room of the USS Enterprise. This mother needs 
welder's gloves to operate. The pan and tilt head is okay, and the height 
isn't bad, but ever since I started using it, I can no longer count to 
ten - get my drift?

Cheerio :-)

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Re[2]: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Walkden
Hi,

Saturday, December 28, 2002, 9:00:15 PM, you wrote:

 I have a question for the other Manfrotto 055 users.
 I have problems with the leg locks on mine. They are a lever
 style of lock, and I can either get the lock loose enough to
 allow the legs to slide when in the relaxed position, or tight
 enough to support a camera in the locked position, but not both.
 Does anyone have amy hints for adjusting the levers so that the
 darned tripod will work?

there's a little device on the springs which lets you adjust the
tension. I've never used it because the legs on mine work fine, so
beyond this I can't help you.

---

 Bob  

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Re: Re[2]: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Bob Walkden
Subject: Re[2]: OT: Tripod recommendations please


 Hi,

 Saturday, December 28, 2002, 9:00:15 PM, you wrote:

  I have a question for the other Manfrotto 055 users.

 there's a little device on the springs which lets you adjust
the
 tension. I've never used it because the legs on mine work
fine, so
 beyond this I can't help you.

Hmmm, doesn't describe my tripod. I wonder if they have changed
the locks over the years. Mine uses levers which squish a molded
cam thingie to tighten the locks.
I expect the fix is to replace the entire locking unit, which I
think is about the same price as replacing the tripod.

William Robb




Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
Where do you live, exactly, Bob

At 07:52 PM 12/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:

Good idea! We can also tell when Tyrannosaurus Rex is prowling nearby!

No, really, good idea!

Regards,
Bob

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!
   - Benjamin Franklin

From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Does anybody carry along a pie pan and a jug of water?  If you are
 shooting near a highway, it's nice to know when the ground is NOT
 vibrating.

 Len
 ---
  From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
  Ya know, I like my 3046. Very, very stable, like that of the
  old wooden tripods. I added three small blocks of wood to
  eliminate small, high frequency vibration that may happen if
  you accidentally twang a center leg. They just press fit
  between center legs and side legs. I also have a surveyor's
  tripod with a thread converter. It's seriously stable but very heavy.
 
  Regards,
  Bob


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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Bob Blakely
NOT in Jurassic Park.

Regards,
Bob

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!
   - Benjamin Franklin

From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Where do you live, exactly, Bob

 At 07:52 PM 12/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Good idea! We can also tell when Tyrannosaurus Rex is prowling nearby!
 
 No, really, good idea!
 
 From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Does anybody carry along a pie pan and a jug of water?  If you are
   shooting near a highway, it's nice to know when the ground is NOT
   vibrating.
   ---
From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   
Ya know, I like my 3046. Very, very stable, like that of the
old wooden tripods. I added three small blocks of wood to
eliminate small, high frequency vibration that may happen if
you accidentally twang a center leg. They just press fit
between center legs and side legs. I also have a surveyor's
tripod with a thread converter. It's seriously stable but very
heavy.




Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-28 Thread Peter Alling
That's good I was just a little worried.

At 09:12 PM 12/28/2002 -0800, you wrote:

NOT in Jurassic Park.

Regards,
Bob

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!
   - Benjamin Franklin

From: Peter Alling [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Where do you live, exactly, Bob

 At 07:52 PM 12/26/2002 -0800, you wrote:
 Good idea! We can also tell when Tyrannosaurus Rex is prowling nearby!
 
 No, really, good idea!
 
 From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   Does anybody carry along a pie pan and a jug of water?  If you are
   shooting near a highway, it's nice to know when the ground is NOT
   vibrating.
   ---
From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   
Ya know, I like my 3046. Very, very stable, like that of the
old wooden tripods. I added three small blocks of wood to
eliminate small, high frequency vibration that may happen if
you accidentally twang a center leg. They just press fit
between center legs and side legs. I also have a surveyor's
tripod with a thread converter. It's seriously stable but very
heavy.


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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-27 Thread Cotty
From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I didn't know Manfrotto tripods came with a head.

I think you're right. Bought mine too long ago to remember properly.
However, I think I got the 3-way pan head as part of a package back
then. Probably was just some local offer, then...

Jostein

Hi guys,

In doing my research, yes, there is at least one that does come complete 
with head, but that head is on for good...

http://www.bogenphoto.com/product/templates/templates.php3?sectionid=2item
id=238

Still looking,

Cotty


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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-27 Thread Lon Williamson
Rob, do you find using the plate a pain?
I do.  I asked at my local store if I could buy
a short or even replacement center column, intending
to take a hacksaw to the latter if necessary.
Bogen here in the US does not list either part,
according to the store.

-Lon

Rob Studdert wrote:
 
 On 26 Dec 2002 at 10:05, Lon Williamson wrote:
 
  And here's what's wrong with it:  It's a knuckle-bruising
  finger bleeder.  The centerpost is too long.  I use mine,
  but prefer the Slik 300 DX (not the flimsier 330) for
  everything but telephoto work.  If I were 5' 2, eyes
  of blue the 300 would be my only tripod. -Lon
 
 My original 055 had a split centre post so you could shorten it to around 6
 and my current 441 tripod (Carbon version of the current 055Pro) has a little
 plate with thread for mounting a head which will allow the centre post to be
 removed completely when weight is a concern.
 
 Cheers,
 
 RobRob Studdert
 HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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 UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-27 Thread Lon Williamson
T'ain't all true, GreyWolf.  The modern snaps are faster, you
know.  Although once one sets up a tripod, the Hurry factor is not
important.  On the other hand once one collapses a tripod, time
is of the essence.  Realizations like this are why I don't get out
of bed unless Nurse Druckett has a particularly evil grin.

-Lon

T Rittenhouse wrote:
 
 Interesting, I had a 3021 cira :979 and now have one cira:1992. The newer
 one is obviously more cheaply made. Apparently the current
 Bogen/Manofrotto's are still more cheaply made. Built to sell at a price
 point, I guess.
 
 Ciao,
 Graywolf
 http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Lon Williamson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, December 27, 2002 8:52 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please
 
  Rob, do you find using the plate a pain?
  I do.  I asked at my local store if I could buy
  a short or even replacement center column, intending
  to take a hacksaw to the latter if necessary.
  Bogen here in the US does not list either part,
  according to the store.
 
  -Lon
 
  Rob Studdert wrote:
  
   On 26 Dec 2002 at 10:05, Lon Williamson wrote:
  
And here's what's wrong with it:  It's a knuckle-bruising
finger bleeder.  The centerpost is too long.  I use mine,
but prefer the Slik 300 DX (not the flimsier 330) for
everything but telephoto work.  If I were 5' 2, eyes
of blue the 300 would be my only tripod. -Lon
  
   My original 055 had a split centre post so you could shorten it to
 around 6
   and my current 441 tripod (Carbon version of the current 055Pro) has a
 little
   plate with thread for mounting a head which will allow the centre post
 to be
   removed completely when weight is a concern.
  
   Cheers,
  
   RobRob Studdert
   HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
   Tel +61-2-9554-4110
   UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Dec 2002 at 8:52, Lon Williamson wrote:

 Rob, do you find using the plate a pain?
 I do.  I asked at my local store if I could buy
 a short or even replacement center column, intending
 to take a hacksaw to the latter if necessary.
 Bogen here in the US does not list either part,
 according to the store.

Hi Lon,

No pain, quite the contrary. I keep a 308RC ball head on the little plate that 
replaces the centre column and a 141RC 3 way head on the centre column. Of 
course the extra height and cantilever advantages are lost once the centre 
column is discarded but it loses no stability. Also the weight advantage of the 
plate and ball head allows me to carry the tripod to more places than I would 
otherwise.

I can't find the parts listed as spares however I have 2001 Manfrotto product 
code to ean13 bar code list which has 29579 entries so I am sure that they 
exist.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-27 Thread Rob Studdert
On 27 Dec 2002 at 13:49, T Rittenhouse wrote:

 Interesting, I had a 3021 cira :979 and now have one cira:1992. The newer
 one is obviously more cheaply made. Apparently the current
 Bogen/Manofrotto's are still more cheaply made. Built to sell at a price
 point, I guess.

The only difference that I perceived in my original 055 (purchased March '86) 
and an associates 055 (purchased '00 still had the circular section centre 
post) was that the latter had a seemingly more flimsy leg setting angle setting 
and locking hub but it appeared to work fine.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread William Robb

- Original Message -
From: Dan Scott
Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please



 I have the 3401, too, and like it quite a bit. But, it has
lever locks,
 not twist locks. I think all the Bogen/Manfrotto models have
leg locks,
 or do they have some twist types?

028. Has thumbscrews to lock the upper extensions, teists to
lock the lower ones.

William Robb





Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread Lon Williamson
And here's what's wrong with it:  It's a knuckle-bruising
finger bleeder.  The centerpost is too long.  I use mine,
but prefer the Slik 300 DX (not the flimsier 330) for
everything but telephoto work.  If I were 5' 2, eyes
of blue the 300 would be my only tripod. -Lon

Jostein wrote:
 
 Cotty,
 the Manfrotto 055 comes with a 3-way head as standard also. I've got
 one as a spare for my Sachtler.
 
 There are at least three variants of the 055. One plain, one with camo
 colours and padded grip areas on the legs, and one with an option to
 attach the center column sideways (great for macros). It's a very
 popular tripod in this country amongst nature photographers, because
 it gives a reasonably good performance at an acceptable weight.
 
 Jostein
 
 - Original Message -
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 3:43 PM
 Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please
 
 
  190D is like the more famous big 055 but :
 
  - a bit smaller :1.82m max. - about 0.55m compacted (maybe less than
 2 feet)
 
  - a bit lighter (1.7kg versus 2.3 kg).
 
  - twist release legs with screw/unscrew mechanism.
 
  It is really a sturdy tripod but if you are taller than 1.85m the
 bigger 055
  will fit you better. Hopefully this is not the case for me.
 
  Good luck,
 
  Thibault Grouas.
 
 
  Hi folks,
  
  Would anyone like to recommend a decent tripod to me?
  
  Requirements:
  must be fairly sturdy
  must extend to about 5 feet in height without extending any central
 mech.
  must have twist-release legs (eg not pull out clasps etc)
  must compact to about 2 feet in length
  head not important 3-way/pan and tilt/ whatever. No balls!
  
  All thoughts considered.
  
  Thanks,
  
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RE: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread Jostein
Lon,
There are two centerposts for the x55 series; the standard and a shorter
one.
The latter has saved me of half a hand, at least!

Also, I discovered a bit late that the rubber cup for the bottom of the
centerpost gives a slight protection against the worst fingersqueezes. They
are available as spare parts though...

Jostein

 -Original Message-
 From: Lon Williamson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 And here's what's wrong with it:  It's a knuckle-bruising
 finger bleeder.  The centerpost is too long.  I use mine,
 but prefer the Slik 300 DX (not the flimsier 330) for
 everything but telephoto work.  If I were 5' 2, eyes
 of blue the 300 would be my only tripod. -Lon




Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread Bob Blakely
Ya know, I like my 3046. Very, very stable, like that of the old wooden
tripods. I added three small blocks of wood to eliminate small, high
frequency vibration that may happen if you accidentally twang a center
leg. They just press fit between center legs and side legs. I also have a
surveyor's tripod with a thread converter. It's seriously stable but very
heavy.

Regards,
Bob

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   - Benjamin Franklin

From: Rob Studdert [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On 26 Dec 2002 at 10:05, Lon Williamson wrote:

  And here's what's wrong with it:  It's a knuckle-bruising
  finger bleeder.  The centerpost is too long.  I use mine,
  but prefer the Slik 300 DX (not the flimsier 330) for
  everything but telephoto work.  If I were 5' 2, eyes
  of blue the 300 would be my only tripod. -Lon

 My original 055 had a split centre post so you could shorten it to around
6
 and my current 441 tripod (Carbon version of the current 055Pro) has a
little
 plate with thread for mounting a head which will allow the centre post to
be
 removed completely when weight is a concern.




RE: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread Len Paris
Does anybody carry along a pie pan and a jug of water?  If you are
shooting near a highway, it's nice to know when the ground is NOT
vibrating.

Len
---

 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2002 8:45 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please
 
 
 Ya know, I like my 3046. Very, very stable, like that of the 
 old wooden tripods. I added three small blocks of wood to 
 eliminate small, high frequency vibration that may happen if 
 you accidentally twang a center leg. They just press fit 
 between center legs and side legs. I also have a surveyor's 
 tripod with a thread converter. It's seriously stable but very heavy.
 
 Regards,
 Bob





Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread Bob Blakely
Good idea! We can also tell when Tyrannosaurus Rex is prowling nearby!

No, really, good idea!

Regards,
Bob

Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy!
   - Benjamin Franklin
 
From: Len Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 Does anybody carry along a pie pan and a jug of water?  If you are
 shooting near a highway, it's nice to know when the ground is NOT
 vibrating.
 
 Len
 ---
  From: Bob Blakely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  
  Ya know, I like my 3046. Very, very stable, like that of the 
  old wooden tripods. I added three small blocks of wood to 
  eliminate small, high frequency vibration that may happen if 
  you accidentally twang a center leg. They just press fit 
  between center legs and side legs. I also have a surveyor's 
  tripod with a thread converter. It's seriously stable but very heavy.
  
  Regards,
  Bob




Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-26 Thread Dan Scott

On Thursday, December 26, 2002, at 09:06  PM, Len Paris wrote:


Does anybody carry along a pie pan and a jug of water?  If you are
shooting near a highway, it's nice to know when the ground is NOT
vibrating.

Len



Good tip. Thanks.

Dan Scott




Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-24 Thread Mark D.
--- Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Would anyone like to recommend a decent tripod to
 me?
 
 Requirements:
 must be fairly sturdy
 must extend to about 5 feet in height without
 extending any central mech.
 must have twist-release legs (eg not pull out clasps
 etc)
 must compact to about 2 feet in length
 head not important 3-way/pan and tilt/ whatever. No
 balls!

I use a Bogen 3401 and it has been a pleasure. I've
dragged it through some pretty tough conditions and it
has served without fail. Oh, but wait! This tripod has
balls G! Nevermind...

Mark

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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-24 Thread pentax
I discovered Manfrotto makes a nice kit for not too expensive (about 120 EUR in 
france). It consists of Manfrotto 190D legs and their standard 3-way head.

190D is like the more famous big 055 but :

- a bit smaller :1.82m max. - about 0.55m compacted (maybe less than 2 feet)

- a bit lighter (1.7kg versus 2.3 kg).

- twist release legs with screw/unscrew mechanism.

It is really a sturdy tripod but if you are taller than 1.85m the bigger 055
will fit you better. Hopefully this is not the case for me.

Good luck,

Thibault Grouas.


Hi folks,

Would anyone like to recommend a decent tripod to me?

Requirements:
must be fairly sturdy
must extend to about 5 feet in height without extending any central mech.
must have twist-release legs (eg not pull out clasps etc)
must compact to about 2 feet in length
head not important 3-way/pan and tilt/ whatever. No balls!

All thoughts considered.

Thanks,

Cotty


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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-24 Thread Dr E D F Williams
I use the big #075 and its solid as they come.

Dr E D F Williams

http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams
Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery
Updated: March 30, 2002


- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please


 I discovered Manfrotto makes a nice kit for not too expensive (about 120
EUR in france). It consists of Manfrotto 190D legs and their standard 3-way
head.

 190D is like the more famous big 055 but :

 - a bit smaller :1.82m max. - about 0.55m compacted (maybe less than 2
feet)

 - a bit lighter (1.7kg versus 2.3 kg).

 - twist release legs with screw/unscrew mechanism.

 It is really a sturdy tripod but if you are taller than 1.85m the bigger
055
 will fit you better. Hopefully this is not the case for me.

 Good luck,

 Thibault Grouas.


 Hi folks,
 
 Would anyone like to recommend a decent tripod to me?
 
 Requirements:
 must be fairly sturdy
 must extend to about 5 feet in height without extending any central mech.
 must have twist-release legs (eg not pull out clasps etc)
 must compact to about 2 feet in length
 head not important 3-way/pan and tilt/ whatever. No balls!
 
 All thoughts considered.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cotty
 
 
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 http://www.macads.co.uk/
 
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-24 Thread Jostein
Cotty,
the Manfrotto 055 comes with a 3-way head as standard also. I've got
one as a spare for my Sachtler.

There are at least three variants of the 055. One plain, one with camo
colours and padded grip areas on the legs, and one with an option to
attach the center column sideways (great for macros). It's a very
popular tripod in this country amongst nature photographers, because
it gives a reasonably good performance at an acceptable weight.

Jostein

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please



 190D is like the more famous big 055 but :

 - a bit smaller :1.82m max. - about 0.55m compacted (maybe less than
2 feet)

 - a bit lighter (1.7kg versus 2.3 kg).

 - twist release legs with screw/unscrew mechanism.

 It is really a sturdy tripod but if you are taller than 1.85m the
bigger 055
 will fit you better. Hopefully this is not the case for me.

 Good luck,

 Thibault Grouas.


 Hi folks,
 
 Would anyone like to recommend a decent tripod to me?
 
 Requirements:
 must be fairly sturdy
 must extend to about 5 feet in height without extending any central
mech.
 must have twist-release legs (eg not pull out clasps etc)
 must compact to about 2 feet in length
 head not important 3-way/pan and tilt/ whatever. No balls!
 
 All thoughts considered.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Cotty
 
 
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 http://www.macads.co.uk/
 
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Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-24 Thread David A. Mann
Jostein wrote:

 Cotty,
 the Manfrotto 055 comes with a 3-way head as standard also. I've got
 one as a spare for my Sachtler.

I didn't know Manfrotto tripods came with a head.  Mine [also 055] didn't 
when I boughti it a couple of years ago.  I added an 029, the big 3-way 
head with those hexagonal quick-release plates.  I subsequently bought a 
168 ball head which takes those same plates.  I fitted that head to my 
monopod.

 There are at least three variants of the 055. One plain, one with camo
 colours and padded grip areas on the legs, and one with an option to
 attach the center column sideways (great for macros).

I think there's also the silver vs black option as well.  The one with 
the sideways centre column option is the 455, if I remember correctly.  
It was released not long after I purchased my 055 :(

 It's a very popular tripod in this country amongst nature
 photographers, because it gives a reasonably good performance at an
 acceptable weight. 

I second this.  It will hold a medium format camera quite comfortably, 
without being cumbersome.  The leg locking mechanisms may or may not be 
to your liking.

Cotty, is the tripod for your video camera too big?

Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/





Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please

2002-12-24 Thread Brad Dobo
Wow, lots of 055 Manfrottos out there, I have one as well.  It did not come
with a head and I ordered a Gitzo Ball Head, G1276M Magnesium. I have found
little to no use for the QR plate, so the next head I buy will not have one.
My 055 is the old style, black and no sideways column.  I find it easy to
use, supports my 400mm and body nicely.  Despite the lack of a sideways
column, I find it great and easy to use for macro.  Just a heavy thing.  I
prefer it's leg-locks.

Hmm...just looking at the catologue here, and I think I found my monopod,
Gitzopod..cool.

Brad
- Original Message -
From: David A. Mann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 2:29 AM
Subject: Re: OT: Tripod recommendations please


 Jostein wrote:

  Cotty,
  the Manfrotto 055 comes with a 3-way head as standard also. I've got
  one as a spare for my Sachtler.

 I didn't know Manfrotto tripods came with a head.  Mine [also 055] didn't
 when I boughti it a couple of years ago.  I added an 029, the big 3-way
 head with those hexagonal quick-release plates.  I subsequently bought a
 168 ball head which takes those same plates.  I fitted that head to my
 monopod.

  There are at least three variants of the 055. One plain, one with camo
  colours and padded grip areas on the legs, and one with an option to
  attach the center column sideways (great for macros).

 I think there's also the silver vs black option as well.  The one with
 the sideways centre column option is the 455, if I remember correctly.
 It was released not long after I purchased my 055 :(

  It's a very popular tripod in this country amongst nature
  photographers, because it gives a reasonably good performance at an
  acceptable weight.

 I second this.  It will hold a medium format camera quite comfortably,
 without being cumbersome.  The leg locking mechanisms may or may not be
 to your liking.

 Cotty, is the tripod for your video camera too big?

 Cheers,

 - Dave

 http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/