OT: World Cup, 2018

[Daniel J. Matyola]

So much for US soccer, eh?

I will not miss the opportunity to be bored to death.

Which teams have qualified for the 2018 World Cup?

   - Europe: Russia (hosts), Germany, Portugal, Belgium, Poland, France,
   Spain, Switzerland, England, Croatia, Denmark, Iceland, Sweden and Serbia
   - Africa: Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal, Nigeria and Morocco
   - North and Central America: Mexico, Costa Rica and Panama
   - South America: Brazil, Argentina, Peru, Colombia and Uruguay
   - Asia: Iran, Australia, Japan, South Korea and Saudi Arabia


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Re: OT: World Cup

[Dario Bonazza]

Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Chvála Bohu !Three Cheers for the Red, White and Blue!
My Slovak brothers upset the mighty Italians!


Sure a well-deserved drive out!

Dario 



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Re: OT: World Cup

[Boris Liberman]

Pozdravlyayu!

;-)

On 6/24/2010 7:50 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Chvála Bohu !Three Cheers for the Red, White and Blue!

My Slovak brothers upset the mighty Italians!

Dan




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Re: OT: World Cup

[eckinator]

Congrats Dan! =)
Cheers
Ecke
PS: Not much to be expected from the not so mighty Germans this time,
I'm afraid so let's see if your brethren can upset them, too?

2010/6/24 Daniel J. Matyola :
> Chvála Bohu !    Three Cheers for the Red, White and Blue!
>
> My Slovak brothers upset the mighty Italians!
>
> Dan
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OT: World Cup

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Chvála Bohu !Three Cheers for the Red, White and Blue!

My Slovak brothers upset the mighty Italians!

Dan

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Re: OT: World Cup news

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- Original Message - 
From: "John Francis" 


Subject: Re: OT: World Cup news



On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 02:59:23PM +0200, Madame RD wrote:


could well be . they had a good start . I'd like Maradonna to win the
Cup. He's had such an extraordinary comeback !!
dominique


Personally I wish the lying, cheating scumbag all the worst, especially
in the World Cup.

True justice would see his team lose to a blatant foul that somehow
escaped the notice of the referees (which, given the quality of some
of the decisions we've seen recently doesn't seem totally impossible).


Oh, you mean like what was perpetrated on the U.S. in yesterdays game 
against Slovenia?



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Re: OT: World Cup news

[John Francis]

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 02:59:23PM +0200, Madame RD wrote:
>
> could well be . they had a good start . I'd like Maradonna to win the  
> Cup. He's had such an extraordinary comeback !!
> dominique

Personally I wish the lying, cheating scumbag all the worst, especially
in the World Cup.

True justice would see his team lose to a blatant foul that somehow
escaped the notice of the referees (which, given the quality of some
of the decisions we've seen recently doesn't seem totally impossible).


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Re: OT: World Cup news

[Madame RD]

Le 18/06/10 17:48, Bob W a écrit :
   

   From what I heard, vuvuzelas are banned from Rugby grounds .. which
have a mainly white audience . soccer is mainly black and vuvuzelas
too.

the  good thing about Mexico- France was the absence of Vuvuzelas ..
back to good old songs !  I'd rather not  speak of the match. England
has one unfortunate goalkeeper,  we  had 8 useless players coached by a
casting error O:-) !

dominique
 

this could be USA's year!

B
   


could well be . they had a good start . I'd like Maradonna to win the 
Cup. He's had such an extraordinary comeback !!

dominique



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RE: OT: World Cup news

[Bob W]

>  From what I heard, vuvuzelas are banned from Rugby grounds .. which
> have a mainly white audience . soccer is mainly black and vuvuzelas
> too.
> 
> the  good thing about Mexico- France was the absence of Vuvuzelas ..
> back to good old songs !  I'd rather not  speak of the match. England
> has one unfortunate goalkeeper,  we  had 8 useless players coached by a
> casting error O:-) !
> 
> dominique

this could be USA's year!

B


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Re: OT: World Cup news

[Madame RD]

Le 17/06/10 22:36, Bruce Walker a écrit :


mike wilson wrote:

Bob W wrote:


Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) that 

under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, 
Milanshire,

English football has progressed in a backwards direction.
The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:



English football is the envy of the civilised world.


Is there a footy match on?


If there is, you can't hear it over the sound of massed, angry hornets.

There was also a call to ban football/soccer from vuvuzela events.

-bmw



From what I heard, vuvuzelas are banned from Rugby grounds .. which 
have a mainly white audience . soccer is mainly black and vuvuzelas too.


the  good thing about Mexico- France was the absence of Vuvuzelas .. 
back to good old songs !  I'd rather not  speak of the match. England 
has one unfortunate goalkeeper,  we  had 8 useless players coached by a 
casting error O:-) !


dominique



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Re: OT: World Cup news

[Bruce Walker]

eckinator wrote:

2010/6/17 Bruce Walker :

mike wilson wrote:

Bob W wrote:


Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm)
that
under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham,
Milanshire,
English football has progressed in a backwards direction.
The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:



English football is the envy of the civilised world.

Is there a footy match on?

If there is, you can't hear it over the sound of massed, angry hornets.

There was also a call to ban football/soccer from vuvuzela events.


brilliant movie and brilliant comments!
if you want to get rid of the vuvuzela sounds run the sound from your
tv through your computer and filter out B Flat, i.e. 233, 466, 932 and
1864 Hz. There are instructions all over the web for windoze and
snooze leopard
cheers
ecke


Here's a nice s/w comb filter you can run on a spare PC ...

http://is.gd/cTqkw

-bmw

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Re: OT: World Cup news

[drd1135]

Only the ball has progressed backwards. 
-Original Message-
From: "Bob W" 
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2010 19:31:42 
To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'
Subject: OT: World Cup news

Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) that
under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, Milanshire,
English football has progressed in a backwards direction. 

The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4CXY6TVBMc>

English football is the envy of the civilised world.




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RE: OT: World Cup news

[Bob W]

> >
> > 
> >
> > English football is the envy of the civilised world.
> >
> Particularly when it comes to goalkeeping.
> 

Robert Green learnt his craft at the feet of the chap in the video...




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Re: OT: World Cup news

[eckinator]

2010/6/17 Bruce Walker :
> mike wilson wrote:
>>
>> Bob W wrote:
>>
>>> Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
>>> (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm)
>>> that
>>> under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham,
>>> Milanshire,
>>> English football has progressed in a backwards direction.
>>> The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
>>> emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> English football is the envy of the civilised world.
>>
>> Is there a footy match on?
>
> If there is, you can't hear it over the sound of massed, angry hornets.
>
> There was also a call to ban football/soccer from vuvuzela events.

brilliant movie and brilliant comments!
if you want to get rid of the vuvuzela sounds run the sound from your
tv through your computer and filter out B Flat, i.e. 233, 466, 932 and
1864 Hz. There are instructions all over the web for windoze and
snooze leopard
cheers
ecke

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Re: OT: World Cup news

[Bruce Walker]

mike wilson wrote:

Bob W wrote:


Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) 
that
under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, 
Milanshire,

English football has progressed in a backwards direction.
The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:



English football is the envy of the civilised world.


Is there a footy match on?


If there is, you can't hear it over the sound of massed, angry hornets.

There was also a call to ban football/soccer from vuvuzela events.

-bmw

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Re: OT: World Cup news

[Stan Halpin]

On Jun 17, 2010, at 1:31 PM, Bob W wrote:

> Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
> (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) that
> under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, Milanshire,
> English football has progressed in a backwards direction. 
> 
> The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
> emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:
> 
> 
> 
> English football is the envy of the civilised world.
> 
Particularly when it comes to goalkeeping.

stan

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Re: OT: World Cup news

[mike wilson]

Bob W wrote:


Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) that
under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, Milanshire,
English football has progressed in a backwards direction. 


The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:



English football is the envy of the civilised world.


Is there a footy match on?

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OT: World Cup news

[Bob W]

Untrustworthy kraut, Herr Franz Backenschtabber, recently suggested
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/world_cup_2010/8740637.stm) that
under the wise tutelage of Sir Lord Cappello, Bt. of Turinham, Milanshire,
English football has progressed in a backwards direction. 

The Association Football Association has published a "video-tape" which
emphatically and comprehensively refutes such Teutonic nonsense:



English football is the envy of the civilised world.




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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[frank theriault]

I knew you guys wuz joking - or at least that you understood me.  I should
have put a little smiley after my first line to indicate such.

I understood the humour (with a "u").  :-)  (remembering the smiley this
time!)

-frank

"Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:

> We understand you.  Some of the "North Americans" were trying to use humor
> (NOT humour) to suggest that we really don't want to hear about
> "international football."
>
> frank theriault wrote:
>

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Re[3]: OT World Cup Offer

[Albano_Garcia]

Hi, Bob.
Yes, these two extremes I suppose are a good definition of my country, and
a good explanation of why we are as we are in this moment (destroyed).
The cause of our doom is our damned "viveza criolla", something a bit
untraslatable, something like "argentine evil-smart-mind", looking always
for a shortcut, a leeway, an advantage.

Both articles are very good, but the Observer's one is absolutely great and
super accurate (except for the 5 o clock tea).
If you list member are not from here and want to understand us, read it.

Albano




Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 22:30:29 +0100
From: Bob Walkden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re[3]: OT World Cup Offer
Hi Albano,
over here we admire the 2nd goal tremendously. Every time the 'hamd of
God' goal is shown, so is the sublime goal (and vice versa). We find it
difficult to see how 2 extremes could co-exist in one man, and be revealed
in the same match. One of the joys of English football, though, is that
Owen's goal against Argentina in France was almost as good as
Maradona's against us!
For people who don't understand the nature of the England-Argentina
fixture, here are some interesting links discussing its history.
http://www.observer.co.uk/osm/story/0,6903,716620,00.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/falklands/story/0,11707,657865,00.html
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 Bob
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Stan Halpin]

And how about the odds on a Finals involving Senegal and the U.S.? Any
offers? Now that the weaker teams like France and Argentina are gone, it
starts to get interesting (;-)

stan

> From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Date: Sat, 01 Jun 2002 23:40:16 +
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> 
> I'll take ten dollars of that at 100:1. How about it?
> Paul
> 
> Stan Halpin wrote:
>> 
>> What odds on Senegal?
>> 
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:52:04 EDT
>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Subject: OT World Cup Offer
>>> 
>>> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer
>>> rather
>>> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys).
>>> I
>>> will give you 100-1 odds.
>>> 
>>> Kind regards
>>> 
>>> Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Lasse Karlsson]

I simply can't stay away from this OT thread.

As I write this the England and Swedish teams shake hands before their
game starts. This is the first big moment in the World Cup for these
two countries. Very quiet and peaceful outside this beautiful sunny
day.
England has not beaten Sweden in 30 years.

The odd part is that the England team is managed by the Swede Svennis
Eriksson, now trying to beat his own country and fellow fotballers.

More than a thousand years ago the English fell victims to the Viking
conquest. Let's see what they can do today.

(Boy, is this a party for an ex-fotballer.)

By the way, only twice did I shoot a football game.
A lot of waiting for sudden actions that lead to nothing... Lot's of
frames wasted, unless someone else pays for the film and
developement...

Lasse
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Paul Stenquist]

I'll take ten dollars of that at 100:1. How about it?
Paul

Stan Halpin wrote:
> 
> What odds on Senegal?
> 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:52:04 EDT
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: OT World Cup Offer
> >
> > In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather
> > generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I
> > will give you 100-1 odds.
> >
> > Kind regards
> >
> > Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Stan Halpin]

What odds on Senegal?

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 05:52:04 EDT
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> Subject: OT World Cup Offer
> 
> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather
> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I
> will give you 100-1 odds.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Peter
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Re[2]: OT World Cup Offer

[Albano_Garcia]

Hi,
Nice diatribe, Albano - keep it up!
Trouble is, the English invented the word 'soccer', from


Hi, Bob. Really nice and interesting data. Thanks
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Camdir]

In a message dated 30/05/02 23:48:05 GMT Daylight Time, Daniel writes:

<< Not many here will notice or care. >>

So quit gassing, then.

Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Kevin Waterson]

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
> > a BALL with your FOOT).

I had thought the name football was applied originally to seperate the games between 
those,
like hockey, that were traditionally played on horse back. Soccer(football) rules 
originally
inluded handling of the ball, but not running with it. Later this rule was removed and 
a 
specialised player put in the goal who could handle the ball.

Many football codes were shunned in the 1850-80s because it pulled people away from 
more
military style sports such as archery etc.

I imagine the game today bears little resemblance to its origin.

Australia alas, shall not be there again. Football(Soccer) has not had as big an impact
here in as in other countries.

Such is life.
Kevin Waterson
Byron Bay
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Albano_Garcia]

Shel wrote:
Calm down, Albano 


Yes, Shel I heat up a bit. The photo of little hooligan is great!
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Collin Brendemuehl]

Can we assume a member of some royal Euro family?


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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Camdir]

In a message dated 30/05/02 18:40:30 GMT Daylight Time, Albano writes:

<<  Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
 tights try to play rugby >>

LMAO

Peter
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RE: OT World Cup Offer

[Paris, Leonard]

Don't hold back.  Tell us how you really feel about us "americans".

Len
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 12:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


Please, you "americans"!!
You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
a BALL with your FOOT). Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
tights try to play rugby but being not macho enough as to face the possible
damage. Called real football "soccer". Put ridiculous nicknames to the
guys-in-tights teams and call "World Cup" a league absolutely usa-only (I
know you think you are the only thing in the world, but it's not true).
Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football. It's
"man-in-tights-with-rugby-ball-and-shoulderpads-and-stupid-brand-nickname"
Real FOOTBALL is the most popular sport in the world (you know, all that
things out of your country borderlines).
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Gary L. Murphy]

On Thu, 30 May 2002 14:21:25 -0300, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football.

Sorry to burst your bubble. But it =is= football here. Since we don't =live= where you 
do, we can call it anything we like.




Later,
Gary
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Shel Belinkoff]

http://home.earthlink.net/~belinkoff/humor/socfan.html


>  The lure of the world cup
>  seems to be each that nation 
>  gets to cheer blindly for their 
>  national team and hate the 
>  other countries' teams.  

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Shel Belinkoff]

Calm down, Albano 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Please, you "americans"!!
> You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
> a BALL with your FOOT). Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
> tights try to play rugby but being not macho enough as to face the possible
> damage. Called real football "soccer". Put ridiculous nicknames to the
> guys-in-tights teams and call "World Cup" a league absolutely usa-only (I
> know you think you are the only thing in the world, but it's not true).
> Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football. It's
> "man-in-tights-with-rugby-ball-and-shoulderpads-and-stupid-brand-nickname"
> Real FOOTBALL is the most popular sport in the world (you know, all that
> things out of your country borderlines).

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Albano_Garcia]

Please, you "americans"!!
You stole the name of a great sport called football (in wich you REALLY hit
a BALL with your FOOT). Applied the name to a sport where some guys in
tights try to play rugby but being not macho enough as to face the possible
damage. Called real football "soccer". Put ridiculous nicknames to the
guys-in-tights teams and call "World Cup" a league absolutely usa-only (I
know you think you are the only thing in the world, but it's not true).
Please, FOOOTBALL is FOOTBALL. What you call football is not football. It's
"man-in-tights-with-rugby-ball-and-shoulderpads-and-stupid-brand-nickname"
Real FOOTBALL is the most popular sport in the world (you know, all that
things out of your country borderlines).
Regards

AG
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Camdir]

In a message dated 30/05/02 13:40:39 GMT Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  know what football (soccer) is;  my son played on a team for several
 years, and I attended allo the games, like a good father.  He no longer
 watches it either.  I tried to watch swome of the televised games, but
 found it totally lacking in interest.  Something like (ice) hockey but
 slower, and withour the physical toughness.  The lure of the world cup
 seems to be each that nation gets to cheer blindly for their national team
 and hate the other countries' teams.  Just because something is popular
 (disposable cameras, eg) doesn't make it better than everything else.
  >>
I wish I had never mentioned this..

peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Anthony Farr]

If only that were true :/

Perhaps the other regions get 4 - 6 teams into the finals, but poor Oceana
not only got only one qualifier, but that side ~then~ had to play off
against South America's highest non-qualifier which was Argentina.  So
Argentina whips Maradona into shape, he boosts the side to victory over
Australia, but soon after he is found to be (once again) full of "Bolivian
Marching Powder" (a known stimulant and performance enhancing drug) and is
(once again) booted out of the game.  Me, bitter?  No comment :/

Oceana has only twice AFAIK been represented in the World Cup, by Australia
in '74 and New Zealand sometime after that.  Every other time the rightful
qualifying nation was eliminated by another region's second chance side.
And every time this manipulation of the finals was nothing but a cynical
ploy to get a bigger audience from a region where soccer is the number one
game.

Word Cup?  Perhaps FIFA's Old Boys' Club Cup would be a better name.
Fortunately FIFA has promised to end this manipulation of the finals.  We
will see.

Regards,
Anthony Farr

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(snip)
> 4-6 teams from each group qualified to the finals that
> start this weekend. In the total there are 32 teams in the finals
> and everybody call this the World Cup. This year World Cup
> happens in Korea and Japan. This event is seem for almost the
> entire planet but the Americans.
>
> ... and, the best team is Brazil ...
>
> Regards
>
> Alex
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


...The lure of the world cup
> seems to be each that nation gets to cheer blindly for their
national team
> and hate the other countries' teams..

Sort of like when American hockey fans boo the Canadian national
anthem before the playoff games??

William Robb
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Re: Contact Sheets of Great Photographers (WAS: OT World Cup Offer)

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

well, there is a series of videos and DVDs published by the Centre
Nationale de la Photographie in Paris* called 'Contacts' which is
exactly what you're looking for. But if you can get past the first page
of their god-awful website (http://www.cnp-photographie.com/) then you're
a better surfer than I am.

Before you place your order remember that France has SECAM TVs.

---

 Bob  

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*France...

Wednesday, May 29, 2002, 5:26:49 PM, you wrote:

> I'd like to see a book of just well printed contact sheets.  Imagine
> what could be learned by looking at several months worth contact sheets
> by some of the great photographers.  Erwitt has some sheets, or portions
> of sheets, in the Masters of Contemporary Photography series, which show
> how he marked the frames for printing as well as the final print.  Very
> helpful.  There are some contact sheet sequences in a couple of WES
> books, which are also very useful and revealing.

> Bob Walkden wrote:
>> 
>> There are also some, notably by HC-B, which are from the same
>> contact sheet as his classics, which show more context, or give an
>> insight into what he was up to when he took the classics.
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[suaide]

> The world cup is the true world sport competition: soccer.
> Some obscure sport No, about 5.5 million people in the

 I meant 5.5 billion people  

> world loves it. Just the 0.5 million remaining north Americans
> and some crazy people don't know anything about it.
> 
> To be true what is going to start this weekend are the finals.
> The world cup started last year with almost 200 national teams.
> They played against each other in regional groups
> (one for south america, europe, north america, africa, asia and
> oceania). 4-6 teams from each group qualified to the finals that
> start this weekend. In the total there are 32 teams in the finals
> and everybody call this the World Cup. This year World Cup
> happens in Korea and Japan. This event is seem for almost the
> entire planet but the Americans.
> 
> ... and, the best team is Brazil ...
> 
> Regards
> 
> Alex
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[suaide]

The world cup is the true world sport competition: soccer.
Some obscure sport No, about 5.5 million people in the
world loves it. Just the 0.5 million remaining north Americans
and some crazy people don't know anything about it.

To be true what is going to start this weekend are the finals.
The world cup started last year with almost 200 national teams.
They played against each other in regional groups
(one for south america, europe, north america, africa, asia and
oceania). 4-6 teams from each group qualified to the finals that
start this weekend. In the total there are 32 teams in the finals
and everybody call this the World Cup. This year World Cup
happens in Korea and Japan. This event is seem for almost the
entire planet but the Americans.

... and, the best team is Brazil ...

Regards

Alex

--
Alexandre A. P. Suaide, Ph.D.
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Wayne State University - Detroit, MI

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From: "Frits Wüthrich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


> On Wednesday 29 May 2002 14:19, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> > What is this "World Cup" you guys keep talking about?  Some obscure
> > sport? Dan
> Unlike the world series, this one is open to the world.
> --
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Of Course.  A few years ago, I went to a riot and a football (soccer)
game broke out.  :0).

William Robb wrote:

> - Original Message -
> From: Daniel J. Matyola
> Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer
>
> > What is this "World Cup" you guys keep talking about?  Some
> obscure sport?
>
> Please tell me you forgot the smiley.
>
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Re: Re: OT World Cup Offer

[David Brooks]

Don't do what i did years ago on a trip to England.
Went to a 'football' match in Arsenals home stadium
playing Leeds United and i wore the Leeds scarf.We 
had to make a mad dash to the bus(Leeds won)at the 
end of the game.
So my answer would be,the one everyone else
is cheering for:)

Dave
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From: Aaron Reynolds <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


-Okay, someone tell me who I should cheer for!

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Re: Re: OT World Cup Offer

[David Brooks]

And those leather straps on their heads are
not helmets.Keeps players from biteing their
ears off.Wish they had those when i was in
High School:)eh whats that,can't hear ya:)

Dave

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From: Debra Wilborn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed, 29 May 2002 08:04:39 -0700 (PDT)
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go 99
to one. :)

What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big deal
about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't wear
mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop playing
when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it off
to the next one.  Much faster game.

Deb in TX
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Contact Sheets of Great Photographers (WAS: OT World Cup Offer)

[Shel Belinkoff]

I'd like to see a book of just well printed contact sheets.  Imagine
what could be learned by looking at several months worth contact sheets
by some of the great photographers.  Erwitt has some sheets, or portions
of sheets, in the Masters of Contemporary Photography series, which show
how he marked the frames for printing as well as the final print.  Very
helpful.  There are some contact sheet sequences in a couple of WES
books, which are also very useful and revealing.

Bob Walkden wrote:
> 
> There are also some, notably by HC-B, which are from the same
> contact sheet as his classics, which show more context, or give an
> insight into what he was up to when he took the classics.

-- 
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Debra Wilborn]

--- William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> - Original Message -
> From: Debra Wilborn
> Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer
> 
> 
> > Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go
> 99
> > to one. :)
> >
> > What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
> > popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
> > macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big
> deal
> > about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't
> wear
> > mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop
> playing
> > when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it
> off
> > to the next one.  Much faster game.
> 
> I wonder if it has to do with the possibility of
> real injury
> being sustained by the players.
> I have long though that NFL football is a pansy
> game.
> Even CFL football is a tougher game.
> 
> William Robb
> -

The most emabarrassing part is the gobs of money
involved.  Like a few million bucks to air a
one-minute commercial during the Superbowl. 
Everything is so overhyped.  Example: Emmitt Smith of
the Dallas Cowboys writes a gung-ho letter to his
teammates, something like a preseason pep talk, and it
makes the front cover of the Sports section in my city
paper.  Whatever!  I'm not even in Dallas.

Have you ever watched an NFL-Europe game?  Talk about
bizzare.  The one I saw was Rhine vs. Berlin or
Stuttgart (sp?) so everyone in the stands is German. 
The game is called in German at the stadium but the
broadcast is done in English.  All the players are
Americanc and you get the impression that they're the
only Americans in town.  

The only German player I noticed was the kicker for
Rhine (I think it was Rhine.)  Don't remember his
name, but he was a RETIRED soccer player.  The guy was
playing in title matches probably before a lot of his
teammates could walk.  Now he's enjoying life after
soccer as a good place kicker.  What's that tell you
about the toughness required to play American
football?

Deb in TX
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Debra Wilborn
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


> Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go 99
> to one. :)
>
> What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
> popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
> macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big deal
> about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't wear
> mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop playing
> when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it off
> to the next one.  Much faster game.

I wonder if it has to do with the possibility of real injury
being sustained by the players.
I have long though that NFL football is a pansy game.
Even CFL football is a tougher game.

William Robb
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Debra Wilborn]

Now, one hundred to one really isn't fair.  I'd go 99
to one. :)

What I don't understand is why rugby isn't more
popular in the US.  If ever there was a tough-guy,
macho man sport that's it.  We make such a big deal
about football instead.  In rugby, the guys don't wear
mountains of sissy pads and they don't stop playing
when the ball-carrier gets creamed.  Just pass it off
to the next one.  Much faster game.

Deb in TX
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Aaron Reynolds]

I suppose I can watch the World Cup now, as the Leafs have been 
eliminated from the Stanley Cup playoffs.  :(

Okay, someone tell me who I should cheer for!

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[William Robb]

- Original Message -
From: Daniel J. Matyola
Subject: Re: OT World Cup Offer


> What is this "World Cup" you guys keep talking about?  Some
obscure sport?

Please tell me you forgot the smiley.

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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Frits Wüthrich]

And then my team (the Netherlands) even doesn't play at all, a big 
shame, if I may say so.

Frits J. Wüthrich

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 17:59, Cesar Matamoros II wrote:
> Not if you watched them play the Netherlands!
>
> César
>
> Łukasz Kacperczyk
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:58 AM
>
> Isn't that too much? ;)
> Lukasz
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:52 AM
>
> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to
> offer rather
> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you
> guys). I
> will give you 100-1 odds.
>
> Kind regards
>
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Bob Walkden]

Hi,

>(that's soccer, you guys)

Magnum have a new book out, published by Phaidon called "Magnum
Football" (that's "Magnum Soccer" in the USA). It's in the same format
as "Magnum Landscape".

Some people might describe it as a cynical plundering of their
archives to throw together a few 2nd rate photos to take advantage of
global frenzy over the 'beautiful game'. However, the book does
contain a lot of interesting and previously unpublished photos in their
own right. There are also some, notably by HC-B, which are from the same
contact sheet as his classics, which show more context, or give an
insight into what he was up to when he took the classics.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0714842362/qid%3D1022612818/026-1376086-6091602
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0714842362/qid%3D1022612920/ref%3Dsr%5F11%5F0%5F1/104-3781998-8386335

---

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Tuesday, May 28, 2002, 10:52:04 AM, you wrote:

> In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather 
> generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I
> will give you 100-1 odds. 

> Kind regards

> Peter
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RE: OT World Cup Offer

[Cesar Matamoros II]

Not if you watched them play the Netherlands!

César

Łukasz Kacperczyk
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 5:58 AM

Isn't that too much? ;)
Lukasz

[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:52 AM

In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer
rather
generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys).
I
will give you 100-1 odds.

Kind regards

Peter
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Albano_Garcia]

Hi, Peter
I wonder how much odds you give to us?
;-P

PS 1: How is Beckham recovering?
PS 2: Greetings from Duscher


Vamos, vamos, Argentina, vamos, vamos a ganar!!
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Re: OT World Cup Offer

[Camdir]

In a message dated 28/05/02 13:09:17 GMT Daylight Time, Dave writes:

<< Hey at least their team made it... which isn't too bad considering soccer
 isn't that popular over there.  I don't see NZ in the table (not
 surprising).
  >>
Might I be correct in supposing that the Kiwi view is that soccer is for 
poofs?

Having recently immersed myself in an intriguing article on the hunting scene 
and its'  
sociological impact in NZ ...now way OT.

Pete
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RE: OT World Cup Offer

[Łukasz Kacperczyk]

Isn't that too much? ;)
Lukasz

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In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer
rather
generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys).
I
will give you 100-1 odds.

Kind regards

Peter
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OT World Cup Offer

[Camdir]

In view of the large American contingent here, I have decided to offer rather 
generous odds on your team winning the World Cup (that's soccer, you guys). I 
will give you 100-1 odds. 

Kind regards

Peter
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