Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-05 Thread P. J. Alling
The OEM CD used to be the OS from Microsoft, there was very little trial 
software, sometimes things like the original beta version of MS Money.  
The other crap is often bulk filler supplied by the Manufacture, to 
punch up it's supplied software list.  A company I worked for bought all 
it's programming work stations from Gateway, we got two CD's one of 
Micosoft's NT OS and one of the Gateway "enhancements".  The frist thing 
we did when we got them was to take the OEM copy of the OS, (WinNT in 
this case),  Format the Hard drive and install a clean version from the 
included MS installation CD.  Then add drivers for the specific 
additional hardware, network cards, high res video cards etc.   Once 
this was done you had a pretty clean install.  The manufactures don't 
supply those Microsoft OEM CDs anymore.  You didn't want most of the 
crap on the other CD, now you get neither.

Kenneth Waller wrote:

>A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial 
>version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to 
>continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I 
>use.
>
>Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove?
>
>Kenneth Waller
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM
>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
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>>Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other
>>software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but
>>removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter,
>>especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most
>>people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install
>>the OS, barring a complete melt down.
>>
>>Kenneth Waller wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.
>>>
>>>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get
>>>advertising with your newspaper.
>>>
>>>Kenneth Waller
>>>
>>>- Original Message - 
>>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>>>
>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>>>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have 
>>>>>it
>>>>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>>>>>
>>>>>Shel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why wouldn't they?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Shel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Actually...
>>>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>>>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Who the F knows?
>>>>>>
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RE: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-05 Thread Lou Billing
I found this little script on the Dell forums:

http://www.yorkspace.com/pc-de-crapifier

Written specifically to remove Dell bloatware, but works on any brand
computer with any of the listed programs pre-installed. I ran it on mine and
it worked as advertised.

Lou

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> Kenneth Waller
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 7:22 PM
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> Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>
>
> A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial
> version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to
> continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I
> use.
>
> Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove?
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM
> Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>
>
> > Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other
> > software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but
> > removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter,
> > especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most
> > people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install
> > the OS, barring a complete melt down.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller wrote:
> >
> >>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
> >>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.
> >>
> >>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same
> reason you get
> >>advertising with your newspaper.
> >>
> >>Kenneth Waller
> >>
> >>- Original Message -
> >>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
> >>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
> >>>
> >>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
> >>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you
> can have
> >>>>it
> >>>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
> >>>>
> >>>>Shel
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
> >>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Why wouldn't they?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Shel
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>[Original Message]
> >>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Actually...
> >>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
> >>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>Who the F knows?
> >>>>>
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-05 Thread Kenneth Waller
A lot of the extra stuff included with my new Dell a year ago was trial 
version stuff - good for some many days and then it was gonna cost to 
continue to use. Some of it was just plain free programs, none of which I 
use.

Why would I want a CD/DVD of stuff I intended to remove?

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


> Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other
> software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but
> removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter,
> especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most
> people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install
> the OS, barring a complete melt down.
>
> Kenneth Waller wrote:
>
>>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.
>>
>>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get
>>advertising with your newspaper.
>>
>>Kenneth Waller
>>
>>- Original Message - 
>>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>>
>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have 
>>>>it
>>>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>>>>
>>>>Shel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>>>>
>>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Why wouldn't they?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Actually...
>>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>Who the F knows?
>>>>>
>>>>>ann
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Actually I believe that they are allowed to add their own, and other 
software by agreement, (under penalty of Anti Trust action), but 
removing something that Microsoft includes is a different matter, 
especially since installation CD/DVDs are no longer included, and most 
people don't know how to re-install, and will probably never re-install 
the OS, barring a complete melt down.

Kenneth Waller wrote:

>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>
>>
>
>I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.
>
>My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get 
>advertising with your newspaper.
>
>Kenneth Waller
>
>- Original Message - 
>From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>
>
>  
>
>>The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
>>anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>>
>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
>>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>>>
>>>Shel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>>>
>>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why wouldn't they?
>>>>>
>>>>>Shel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually...
>>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>Who the F knows?
>>>>
>>>>ann
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Kenneth Waller
> The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
> anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

I doubt it as a lot of the stuff included in not Microsoft stuff.

My guess is that they include the other stuff for the same reason you get 
advertising with your newspaper.

Kenneth Waller

- Original Message - 
From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell


> The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing
> anything that comes with a standard windows installation.
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>
>>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
>>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>>
>>Shel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>[Original Message]
>>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>>
>>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Why wouldn't they?
>>>>
>>>>Shel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Actually...
>>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>Who the F knows?
>>>
>>>ann
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
> commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
> "your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
> 
> Shel
> 
Yup -
I'm slowly separating the wheat from the chaffee - 
and quickly took the explorer icon off my desktop
and am using firefox for the web.

When I got the PEntium III 6 years ago - they DID do it my
way.

ann



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> > Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
> >
> > Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > >
> > > Why wouldn't they?
> > >
> > > Shel
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Ann Sanfedele
> > >
> > > > Actually...
> > > > I asked that NO games be installed on my
> > > > computer but they wouldn't honor that
> > >
> >
> > Who the F knows?
> >
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
The OEM agreement with Microsoft probably prohibits their removing 
anything that comes with a standard windows installation.

Shel Belinkoff wrote:

>That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
>commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
>"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.
>
>Shel
>
>
>
>  
>
>>[Original Message]
>>From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>>Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
>>Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>>
>>Shel Belinkoff wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why wouldn't they?
>>>
>>>Shel
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>>[Original Message]
>>>>From: Ann Sanfedele
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually...
>>>>I asked that NO games be installed on my
>>>>computer but they wouldn't honor that
>>>>
>>>>
>>Who the F knows?  
>>
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
That's really odd - and annoying.  I've seen a couple-three Dell
commercials on TV and the ad makes a point of saying that you can have it
"your way."  Well, the crap can be removed if you so desire.

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Date: 10/4/2006 2:42:38 PM
> Subject: Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell
>
> Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> > 
> > Why wouldn't they?
> > 
> > Shel
> > 
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Ann Sanfedele
> > 
> > > Actually...
> > > I asked that NO games be installed on my
> > > computer but they wouldn't honor that
> > 
>
> Who the F knows?  
>
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread graywolf
I believe it comes with windows, no choice there, unless you do a custom 
install.

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Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>> --
>>
> Actually...
> I asked that NO games be installed on my computer but they
> wouldn't honor that
> however, the lure of freecell (which I'd learned at a
> friends house) was insurmountable
> to escape from all the stuff I wanted to do but couldnt
> figure out. :)

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Shel Belinkoff wrote:
> 
> Why wouldn't they?
> 
> Shel
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Ann Sanfedele
> 
> > Actually...
> > I asked that NO games be installed on my
> > computer but they wouldn't honor that
> 

Who the F knows?  

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread P. J. Alling
Ann, Windows Power Toys at various times included a quick resolution 
change utility that installed as a monitor icon in the system tray 
allowing you immediate access to every resolutions that your 
card/monitor combination would support.  It was incorporated into 
various sub versions of Windows and some card manufactures also included 
something like it with their bundled software.  There may be something 
like that already on your machine.  I always though it was useful 
because I run a bunch of older programs that don't follow current rules 
for resizing with resolution changes.  I don't run XP so I'm not as 
familier what may be available built into XP.  I will look into if for you.

Ann Sanfedele wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  
>
>>In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>>it doesn't take care of everything, actually.
>>
>>I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
>>bring the freecell window up
>>to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
>>for it got big.
>>
>>sigh
>>
>>a
>>=
>>What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows
>>file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others.
>>However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For 
>>instance,
>>with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That
>>works in some programs.
>>
>>
>
>Yes, on my old machine I've done that. 
>
>  
>
>>But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They
>>were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box 
>>on
>>the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it.
>>
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>Exactly
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>
>>I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows
>>Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it 
>>the
>>way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the
>>whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find
>>that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos.
>>
>>HTH, Marnie
>>
>>
>>
>Yeah I dont want to change the res just for free cell...
>the small screen will keep me from using it too much!
>
>ann
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>hmmm what is HTH?
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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Shel Belinkoff
Why wouldn't they?

Shel



> [Original Message]
> From: Ann Sanfedele 

> Actually...
> I asked that NO games be installed on my 
> computer but they wouldn't honor that



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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Charles Robinson wrote:
> 
> On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> > I stumbled around and found I had it done without really
> > thinking how i did it :)
> >
> > Now I"m slothfully overloading on freecell
> >
> 
> There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of
> $1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a
> $2.00 pack of cards.
> 
> Not that there's anything *wrong* with that!  :-)
> 
>   -Charles
> 
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Actually...
I asked that NO games be installed on my computer but they
wouldn't honor that
however, the lure of freecell (which I'd learned at a
friends house) was insurmountable
to escape from all the stuff I wanted to do but couldnt
figure out. :)

fortunately, I paid well under 1000 for the new machine 

charles, you are making me feel guilty! :)

ann



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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> it doesn't take care of everything, actually.
> 
> I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
> bring the freecell window up
> to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
> for it got big.
> 
> sigh
> 
> a
> =
> What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows
> file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others.
> However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For 
> instance,
> with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That
> works in some programs.

Yes, on my old machine I've done that. 

> 
> But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They
> were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box 
> on
> the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it.

Exactly

> 
> I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows
> Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it 
> the
> way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the
> whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find
> that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos.
> 
> HTH, Marnie
> 
Yeah I dont want to change the res just for free cell...
the small screen will keep me from using it too much!

ann

hmmm what is HTH?





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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 11:07:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
it doesn't take care of everything, actually.


I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
bring the freecell window up
to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
for it got big.

sigh

a
=
What I told you about will take care of fonts on the desktop, in the Windows 
file explorer (the directoy/file management thing), and quite a few others. 
However, a lot of time you have to adjust fonts within a program. For instance, 
with Word, I go in and adjust the view size to 150% rather than 100%. That 
works in some programs.

But some older programs when used on XP will not go to a full window. They 
were designed for a smaller resolution screen. So even using the maximize box 
on 
the title bar (the box next to the red X close box) may not do it.

I can't full window my solitaire program that I used extensively in Windows 
Me, and still use a lot. (I play 40 Thieves a great deal). So I just use it the 
way it is. It fills about 3/4th of the screen in XP, where it once filled the 
whole window in Me. You can always set the screen resolution down, but I find 
that not worth it. The higher resolution is better for photos.

HTH, Marnie 

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-04 Thread Charles Robinson
On Oct 4, 2006, at 1:23, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> I stumbled around and found I had it done without really
> thinking how i did it :)
>
> Now I"m slothfully overloading on freecell
>

There's something delightful about a person spending upwards of  
$1,000 on a machine and then using it to duplicate the function of a  
$2.00 pack of cards.

Not that there's anything *wrong* with that!  :-)

  -Charles

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Mat Maessen wrote:
> 
> On 10/3/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (3) I can put my own image on the desktop.
> 
> There's more than one way to skin this cat. The way I usually do it:
> 
> 1. Browser to the location of the image. Right click on it, and open
> it up in your web browser.
> 2. Once the image loads in the browser, right-click on it, and select
> "Set as Desktop Background".
> 
> There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty
> straightforward. Harder to explain than to do it. :-)
> 
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I stumbled around and found I had it done without really
thinking how i did it :)

Now I"m slothfully overloading on freecell

ann

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In a message dated 10/3/2006 6:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> writes:
> (2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in
> 
> thanks
> ann
> 
> Actually ann XP is the friendliest Windows yet. Once you get it setup the way
> you want you'll be over the hurdle and the plug and play is super nice.
> 
> 1. Go to the control panel.
> 2. Click on Display.
> 3. On the Display Properties dialog, click the Appearance tab.
> 4. At the bottom is a Font Size selection drop down. You can select Normal,
> Large, and Extra Large.
> 5. Click the Apply button.
> 
> HTH, Marnie aka Doe
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it doesn't take care of everything, actually.
 

I've been treating myself to freecell - however, I can't
bring the freecell window up
to fill up the screen.. although the type on the tool bar
for it got big.

sigh

a

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Mat Maessen
On 10/3/06, Ann Sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (3) I can put my own image on the desktop.

There's more than one way to skin this cat. The way I usually do it:

1. Browser to the location of the image. Right click on it, and open
it up in your web browser.
2. Once the image loads in the browser, right-click on it, and select
"Set as Desktop Background".

There are other ways of doing it, but this one is pretty
straightforward. Harder to explain than to do it. :-)

-Mat

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Re: OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 10/3/2006 6:39:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:
(2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in

thanks
ann

Actually ann XP is the friendliest Windows yet. Once you get it setup the way 
you want you'll be over the hurdle and the plug and play is super nice.

1. Go to the control panel.
2. Click on Display.
3. On the Display Properties dialog, click the Appearance tab.
4. At the bottom is a Font Size selection drop down. You can select Normal, 
Large, and Extra Large.
5. Click the Apply button.

HTH, Marnie aka Doe 

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OT: XP question - dudes, i got my dell

2006-10-03 Thread Ann Sanfedele
Hey, Guys

I can see this is going to be fun (NOT)


What do I do so that 
(1) the dos extentions always show
(2) large fonts show no matter what application I'm in
(3) I can put my own image on the desktop.

thanks
ann

(I'm not on line with it yet -- dont want to link up until
the colors and fonts are set...)

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