RE: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
Thanks Peter, I pondered on it for quite a while, but finally reasoned that there was either a misunderstanding or it was just the way Mafud is. How long have I been on the list?, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:28 PM -- -- Don't ever worry about it Cesar, Mafud took offense at just -- about everything -- anyone wrote... -- -- At 03:29 PM 2/4/04, you wrote: -- >Careful what you say about NYers. -- > -- >I recall something like this coming up once quite a few -- years ago here. It -- >ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I wrote. -- Still not sure -- >what it was that set him off so. -- > -- >NYC - born and raised, -- > -- >Cesar -- >Panama City, Florida -- > -- >-- -Original Message- -- >-- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- >-- Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:20 PM -- >-- -- >-- Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as -- >-- a put down, it is -- >-- just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will -- >-- call you all kinds of -- >-- nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness -- >-- probably comes from -- >-- have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- >-- -- >-- -- -- >-- -- >-- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: -- >-- > Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: -- >-- > -- > -- >-- > Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the -- >-- shortness of both of -- >-- > their replies, I mean they didn't even say "thanks for -- >-- your enquiry" or -- >-- > whatever... -- >-- > -- >-- > I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now -- >-- to see what they -- >-- > have to say... -- >-- > -- >-- > tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than -- >-- she has to for it!* -- >-- > -- >-- -- >-- -- -- >-- graywolf -- >-- http://graywolfphoto.com -- >-- -- >-- "You might as well accept people as they are, -- >-- you are not going to be able to change them anyway." -- >-- -- >-- -- -- I drink to make other people interesting. -- -- George Jean Nathan --
Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
:-> At 01:39 PM 2/5/04, you wrote: Not to mention, he also took offense at some of the stuff he wrote Norm Peter Alling wrote: Don't ever worry about it Cesar, Mafud took offense at just about everything anyone wrote... I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
Not to mention, he also took offense at some of the stuff he wrote Norm Peter Alling wrote: Don't ever worry about it Cesar, Mafud took offense at just about everything anyone wrote...
Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
I can certainly see Pentax developing a sensor based IS system, and I suspect that the rumored new Minolta dslr will be the first to market with such a system. I just wish that pentax would release come information on their digital 'roadmap' so people like me that are on the fence would have a reason to stick with them. As for Canon and Nikon, I agree that they will eventually also go to the sensor based variety, however, I think that this will be in addition to the current lens based system otherwise they would be cutting off their film customers and I don't think that's going to happen just yet :-) Yousef --- Steve Desjardins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pentax IS will almost certainly be the sensor-based > variety. Since > that's coming, I can't see them developing a whole > line of lenses. > Oddly enough, I bet N and C will go the same route > eventually and , > eventually, phase out there IS lenses. Doesn't help > much if you want > something now, however. > > > Steven Desjardins > Department of Chemistry > Washington and Lee University > Lexington, VA 24450 > (540) 458-8873 > FAX: (540) 458-8878 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
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Pentax IS will almost certainly be the sensor-based variety. Since that's coming, I can't see them developing a whole line of lenses. Oddly enough, I bet N and C will go the same route eventually and , eventually, phase out there IS lenses. Doesn't help much if you want something now, however. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I couldn't quite see myself spending the money at this point but I did lust after the sigma EX 120-300 2.8 (NA in PK mount). I ended up getting the sigma EX 70-200 2.8(and the vendor has agreed to swap for a canon mount fortunately). I did find that quite a few of the newer lenses were not available for pentax. perhaps it's just a matter of time, but I suspect that this will remain true for a while. there is also the lack of image stabilization for pentax lenses. Even the stabilized sigmas are not available in Pentax mount. But with all that said and given the rapid drop in ist prices(can't stomach losing too much money on it), I might end up keeping it as a *very* competent P&S :-) as it is a very compact package with the 50/1.8 and pass on my current P&S (a sony 707) to my brother. Yousef --- Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > which lenses did you want that were not available > for Pentax? > > Christian > > - Original Message - > From: "Yousef Lasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:57 PM > Subject: Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing > news... > > > > I love the camera, but what puts me off is the > lack of > > 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't > more > > support for the pentax raw format...I want to be > able > > to use tools like capture one, but they have no > clear > > time table for pentax support. It also seems that > some > > very desirable 3rd party glass is not available > for > > the pentax(yet, maybe never) > > in a straight comparison between the 10D and the > ist, > > I actually preferred the ist and returned the 10D > to > > B&H within their 7 day return period. However, > after > > having the ist for a month and having endured the > > disappointment of finding that software and /or > lenses > > I want are not available for the pentax, I have > swung > > back to the canon. Plus there is the added > incentive > > of a clear upgrade path to the 1Ds/1D MKII down > the > > road. > > Having no current investment in pentax glass, it > seems > > the choice is clear...of course YMMV > > Yousef > > > > >
Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
which lenses did you want that were not available for Pentax? Christian - Original Message - From: "Yousef Lasi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news... > I love the camera, but what puts me off is the lack of > 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't more > support for the pentax raw format...I want to be able > to use tools like capture one, but they have no clear > time table for pentax support. It also seems that some > very desirable 3rd party glass is not available for > the pentax(yet, maybe never) > in a straight comparison between the 10D and the ist, > I actually preferred the ist and returned the 10D to > B&H within their 7 day return period. However, after > having the ist for a month and having endured the > disappointment of finding that software and /or lenses > I want are not available for the pentax, I have swung > back to the canon. Plus there is the added incentive > of a clear upgrade path to the 1Ds/1D MKII down the > road. > Having no current investment in pentax glass, it seems > the choice is clear...of course YMMV > Yousef > >
Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
I love the camera, but what puts me off is the lack of 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't more support for the pentax raw format...I want to be able to use tools like capture one, but they have no clear time table for pentax support. It also seems that some very desirable 3rd party glass is not available for the pentax(yet, maybe never) in a straight comparison between the 10D and the ist, I actually preferred the ist and returned the 10D to B&H within their 7 day return period. However, after having the ist for a month and having endured the disappointment of finding that software and /or lenses I want are not available for the pentax, I have swung back to the canon. Plus there is the added incentive of a clear upgrade path to the 1Ds/1D MKII down the road. Having no current investment in pentax glass, it seems the choice is clear...of course YMMV Yousef --- Cesar Matamoros II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Careful what you say about NYers. > > I recall something like this coming up once quite a > few years ago here. It > ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I > wrote. Still not sure > what it was that set him off so. > > NYC - born and raised, > > Cesar > Panama City, Florida > > -- -Original Message- > -- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:20 PM > -- > -- Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't > take it as > -- a put down, it is > -- just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, > they will > -- call you all kinds of > -- nasty names while giving you their right arm. The > curtness > -- probably comes from > -- have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention > at the same time. > -- > -- -- > -- > -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: > -- > Last night I sent this email to both B and H > and Adorama: > -- > > > -- > Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by > the > -- shortness of both of > -- > their replies, I mean they didn't even say > "thanks for > -- your enquiry" or > -- > whatever... > -- > > -- > I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR > Kennedy) right now > -- to see what they > -- > have to say... > -- > > -- > tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay > more than > -- she has to for it!* > -- > > -- > -- -- > -- graywolf > -- http://graywolfphoto.com > -- > -- "You might as well accept people as they are, > -- you are not going to be able to change them > anyway." > -- > -- >
OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news...
Careful what you say about NYers. I recall something like this coming up once quite a few years ago here. It ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I wrote. Still not sure what it was that set him off so. NYC - born and raised, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:20 PM -- -- Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as -- a put down, it is -- just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will -- call you all kinds of -- nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness -- probably comes from -- have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- -- -- -- -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: -- > Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: -- > -- > Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the -- shortness of both of -- > their replies, I mean they didn't even say "thanks for -- your enquiry" or -- > whatever... -- > -- > I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now -- to see what they -- > have to say... -- > -- > tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than -- she has to for it!* -- > -- -- -- -- graywolf -- http://graywolfphoto.com -- -- "You might as well accept people as they are, -- you are not going to be able to change them anyway." -- --
