Re: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-30 Thread Igor Roshchin

Thank you, Steve, Bruce and Darren for the recommendations!
I passed these suggestions to my friend. He is thinking now.

I suspect that the major advantage of 4/3 system 
compared to Pentax-Q is a larger variety of lenses available.
However, I didn't do a thorough comparison, - so I might be wrong here.

Igor


 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Igor Roshchin 
 Subject: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?



 Hi All:

 A very good friend of mine asked for an [urgent] advice on photo
 cameras. A portion of that includes a recommendation for 
 non-SLR (aka mirrorless) digital cameras with changeable lenses for 
 an enthusiast at early stages.

 The camera is to be small (mobile, take-anywhere), easy to use in both 
 automatic and semi-automatic/manual modes, able to handle reasonably 
 low light, and not to have long shutter lag.  Most frequent use: 
 shooting while travelling (landscapes, urban views),
 shooting people/friends non-very-intrusively.

 It would be a step-up alternative to something like Lumix LX-7 or
 Samsung ex2f that allows interchangeable lenses (for growing needs).


 The question is not about fancy Leica cameras or X100, or rather,
 it is about mid-level cameras (with a budget of within $1K or less for
 the body and one-two lenses).

 I haven't been following this segment of the market as closely.
 I think that some of the Panasonic/Olympus/..?  micro-4/3 cameras fall 
 into this category, Nikon 1, etc.
 I am not sure if K-01 or Q10 would be reasonable here, - they seem to
 me too much of a specialty, and not as mainstream cameras...

 I'd appreciate if you can mention a few models that you'd recommend.
 If you can point out the strong points of the model, - that would
 also be great.


 Thank you,

 Igor


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Re: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
I have both a Q and and E-PM1.  No question that the noise is better
with the larger sensor, especially at higher iso.  OTOH, the Q does
remarkably well for a 1/2.3 sensor, and I enjoyed using the Q very
much while street shooting in Philly.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Thank you, Steve, Bruce and Darren for the recommendations!
 I passed these suggestions to my friend. He is thinking now.

 I suspect that the major advantage of 4/3 system
 compared to Pentax-Q is a larger variety of lenses available.
 However, I didn't do a thorough comparison, - so I might be wrong here.

 Igor


 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Igor Roshchin
 Subject: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?



 Hi All:

 A very good friend of mine asked for an [urgent] advice on photo
 cameras. A portion of that includes a recommendation for
 non-SLR (aka mirrorless) digital cameras with changeable lenses for
 an enthusiast at early stages.

 The camera is to be small (mobile, take-anywhere), easy to use in both
 automatic and semi-automatic/manual modes, able to handle reasonably
 low light, and not to have long shutter lag.  Most frequent use:
 shooting while travelling (landscapes, urban views),
 shooting people/friends non-very-intrusively.

 It would be a step-up alternative to something like Lumix LX-7 or
 Samsung ex2f that allows interchangeable lenses (for growing needs).


 The question is not about fancy Leica cameras or X100, or rather,
 it is about mid-level cameras (with a budget of within $1K or less for
 the body and one-two lenses).

 I haven't been following this segment of the market as closely.
 I think that some of the Panasonic/Olympus/..?  micro-4/3 cameras fall
 into this category, Nikon 1, etc.
 I am not sure if K-01 or Q10 would be reasonable here, - they seem to
 me too much of a specialty, and not as mainstream cameras...

 I'd appreciate if you can mention a few models that you'd recommend.
 If you can point out the strong points of the model, - that would
 also be great.


 Thank you,

 Igor


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Re: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-30 Thread Steven Desjardins
Just to add, a used Q is an even better deal.  It's a fun camera and I
think Pentax really nailed the ergonomics on this one for such a small
body.  The biggest problem with it was the initial $800 price tag.

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Steven Desjardins drd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have both a Q and and E-PM1.  No question that the noise is better
 with the larger sensor, especially at higher iso.  OTOH, the Q does
 remarkably well for a 1/2.3 sensor, and I enjoyed using the Q very
 much while street shooting in Philly.

 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 Thank you, Steve, Bruce and Darren for the recommendations!
 I passed these suggestions to my friend. He is thinking now.

 I suspect that the major advantage of 4/3 system
 compared to Pentax-Q is a larger variety of lenses available.
 However, I didn't do a thorough comparison, - so I might be wrong here.

 Igor


 Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
 From: Igor Roshchin
 Subject: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?



 Hi All:

 A very good friend of mine asked for an [urgent] advice on photo
 cameras. A portion of that includes a recommendation for
 non-SLR (aka mirrorless) digital cameras with changeable lenses for
 an enthusiast at early stages.

 The camera is to be small (mobile, take-anywhere), easy to use in both
 automatic and semi-automatic/manual modes, able to handle reasonably
 low light, and not to have long shutter lag.  Most frequent use:
 shooting while travelling (landscapes, urban views),
 shooting people/friends non-very-intrusively.

 It would be a step-up alternative to something like Lumix LX-7 or
 Samsung ex2f that allows interchangeable lenses (for growing needs).


 The question is not about fancy Leica cameras or X100, or rather,
 it is about mid-level cameras (with a budget of within $1K or less for
 the body and one-two lenses).

 I haven't been following this segment of the market as closely.
 I think that some of the Panasonic/Olympus/..?  micro-4/3 cameras fall
 into this category, Nikon 1, etc.
 I am not sure if K-01 or Q10 would be reasonable here, - they seem to
 me too much of a specialty, and not as mainstream cameras...

 I'd appreciate if you can mention a few models that you'd recommend.
 If you can point out the strong points of the model, - that would
 also be great.


 Thank you,

 Igor


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OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-29 Thread Igor Roshchin


Hi All:

A very good friend of mine asked for an [urgent] advice on photo
cameras. A portion of that includes a recommendation for 
non-SLR (aka mirrorless) digital cameras with changeable lenses for 
an enthusiast at early stages.

The camera is to be small (mobile, take-anywhere), easy to use in both 
automatic and semi-automatic/manual modes, able to handle reasonably 
low light, and not to have long shutter lag.  Most frequent use: 
shooting while travelling (landscapes, urban views),
shooting people/friends non-very-intrusively.

It would be a step-up alternative to something like Lumix LX-7 or
Samsung ex2f that allows interchangeable lenses (for growing needs).


The question is not about fancy Leica cameras or X100, or rather,
it is about mid-level cameras (with a budget of within $1K or less for
the body and one-two lenses).

I haven't been following this segment of the market as closely.
I think that some of the Panasonic/Olympus/..?  micro-4/3 cameras fall 
into this category, Nikon 1, etc.
I am not sure if K-01 or Q10 would be reasonable here, - they seem to
me too much of a specialty, and not as mainstream cameras...

I'd appreciate if you can mention a few models that you'd recommend.
If you can point out the strong points of the model, - that would
also be great.


Thank you,

Igor


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Re: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I've had a few of the Olympus PEN series and currently have an E-PM1.
The E-PM1 can now be had for under $400 with a lens, cheaper ont he
used market  It's a pretty good 12 MP sensor good up until 800
normally or 1600 with some heavy (and non-adjustable) NR.  This would
leave 6-700 for lenses.  I'd suggest the Lumix 14 2.5 ($250) and the
Olympus 45 1.8 ($400), both of which are sharp and pretty fast.  The
E-Pl1, an older body with a similar sensor but slower AF, is also out
then for $189, body only.  IQ is not as good as the Pentax DSLRs, but
perfectly fine as long as you're not printing really big (16 x20)
prints.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:


 Hi All:

 A very good friend of mine asked for an [urgent] advice on photo
 cameras. A portion of that includes a recommendation for
 non-SLR (aka mirrorless) digital cameras with changeable lenses for
 an enthusiast at early stages.

 The camera is to be small (mobile, take-anywhere), easy to use in both
 automatic and semi-automatic/manual modes, able to handle reasonably
 low light, and not to have long shutter lag.  Most frequent use:
 shooting while travelling (landscapes, urban views),
 shooting people/friends non-very-intrusively.

 It would be a step-up alternative to something like Lumix LX-7 or
 Samsung ex2f that allows interchangeable lenses (for growing needs).


 The question is not about fancy Leica cameras or X100, or rather,
 it is about mid-level cameras (with a budget of within $1K or less for
 the body and one-two lenses).

 I haven't been following this segment of the market as closely.
 I think that some of the Panasonic/Olympus/..?  micro-4/3 cameras fall
 into this category, Nikon 1, etc.
 I am not sure if K-01 or Q10 would be reasonable here, - they seem to
 me too much of a specialty, and not as mainstream cameras...

 I'd appreciate if you can mention a few models that you'd recommend.
 If you can point out the strong points of the model, - that would
 also be great.


 Thank you,

 Igor


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Re: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-29 Thread Bruce Walker
With your stated spec, I'd most definitely be looking at the Q10 as a
very close fit.


On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Igor Roshchin s...@komkon.org wrote:

 The camera is to be small (mobile, take-anywhere), easy to use in both
 automatic and semi-automatic/manual modes, able to handle reasonably
 low light, and not to have long shutter lag.  Most frequent use:
 shooting while travelling (landscapes, urban views),
 shooting people/friends non-very-intrusively.

 It would be a step-up alternative to something like Lumix LX-7 or
 Samsung ex2f that allows interchangeable lenses (for growing needs).

 The question is not about fancy Leica cameras or X100, or rather,
 it is about mid-level cameras (with a budget of within $1K or less for
 the body and one-two lenses).


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Re: OT - can you recommend a good digital rangefinder?

2012-10-29 Thread Darren Addy
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com wrote:
 With your stated spec, I'd most definitely be looking at the Q10 as a
 very close fit.

I agree with Bruce. Given that the recent firmware update brings focus
peaking to the ORIGINAL Q, I'd think that model would be highly
attractive as well. Advantages?

Significant savings over the Q10
Focus Peaking
RAW or JPEG (or both)
Unobtrusive with a capital U (if opting for black)
Lots of fun with in-camera filters (if you want)
Small  light lenses.
IQ that will surprise you.
Lots of Pentax features we know and love on the bigger bodies: SR,
multiple-exposure, intervalometer functions, video, etc.

You could get an original Q kit with the 8.5mm f1.9 (normal lens for
low light), the new telephoto zoom, AND the fun fisheye lens and still
be well under $1K.

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