Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread frank theriault
On 6/26/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% detail
 from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who said
 he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the
 sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of CA
 where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an
 extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, the
 detail version is here:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg

That's pretty good detail for such an extreme crop!
 
 Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6,
 1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young lady.
 And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on the
 approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689

Geez, how many straps does she need to have showing on her shoulders. 
I count one for her top, one for her undershirt (I guess that's what
it is), one for her bra, and (on one shoulder at least) her purse
strap.  Are straps the in accessory this year?

I gotta say, I don't find the bokeh particularly pleasing - rather
harsh, to my eye.  Cool shot, though...

cheers,
frank

-- 
Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Frank. Yes, straps are in this year. A common sight on the street these 
days. I tend to like the bokeh that this lens yields. It smooths without 
distorting. 
Paul


 On 6/26/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% detail
  from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who said
  he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the
  sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of CA
  where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an
  extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, the
  detail version is here:
  
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg
 
 That's pretty good detail for such an extreme crop!
  
  Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6,
  1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young lady.
  And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on the
  approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:
  
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689
 
 Geez, how many straps does she need to have showing on her shoulders. 
 I count one for her top, one for her undershirt (I guess that's what
 it is), one for her bra, and (on one shoulder at least) her purse
 strap.  Are straps the in accessory this year?
 
 I gotta say, I don't find the bokeh particularly pleasing - rather
 harsh, to my eye.  Cool shot, though...
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 



Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread Jerome Reyes
 I tend to like the bokeh that this lens yields. It smooths
 without distorting.
 Paul

Actually, that was my first thought on both of the photos that you've
posted as examples. In this one, in particular,

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689

DOF selection did you quite well. *Very* nice bokeh, IMHO.

   - Jerome



Re: Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread mike wilson

 
 From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/06/27 Mon PM 01:07:32 GMT
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot
 
 On 6/26/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% detail
  from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who said
  he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the
  sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of CA
  where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an
  extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, the
  detail version is here:
  
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg
 
 That's pretty good detail for such an extreme crop!
  
  Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6,
  1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young lady.
  And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on the
  approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:
  
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689
 
 Geez, how many straps does she need to have showing on her shoulders. 
 I count one for her top, one for her undershirt (I guess that's what
 it is), one for her bra, and (on one shoulder at least) her purse
 strap.  Are straps the in accessory this year?

No - but stripey suntan is.  8-)

 
 I gotta say, I don't find the bokeh particularly pleasing - rather
 harsh, to my eye.  Cool shot, though...
 
 cheers,
 frank
 
 -- 
 Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson
 
 


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Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread SonC
In a message dated 6/27/2005 9:16:38 A.M.  Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I got her on  the
  approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot  better:
  
   http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689
 

Ummm, would  it be possible for those of us who like approaching shots to see 
the other  one?

;-)


Regards,  
Sonny
http://www.sonc.com
Natchitoches, Louisiana
Oldest continuous  settlement in La Louisiane
égalité, liberté, crawfish  




Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread pnstenquist
Thanks Jerome. I tend to like lenses that soften without distorting. The lenses 
that seem to draw the most complaints in regard to boke, distort the background 
a great deal, yielding strange patterns. The degree of softness in the 
background is more a function of the spatial relationships of lens, subject, 
and background, rather than the way the lens delivers the image to the film 
plane or sensor. Harsh is sometimes used to characterize a background that is 
not completely out of focus. That's not the fault of the lens, but is instead a 
function of the composition.
Paul


  I tend to like the bokeh that this lens yields. It smooths
  without distorting.
  Paul
 
 Actually, that was my first thought on both of the photos that you've
 posted as examples. In this one, in particular,
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689
 
 DOF selection did you quite well. *Very* nice bokeh, IMHO.
 
- Jerome
 



Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-27 Thread pnstenquist
That could be arranged :-).


 In a message dated 6/27/2005 9:16:38 A.M.  Central Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I got her on  the
   approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot  better:
   
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689
  
 
 Ummm, would  it be possible for those of us who like approaching shots to see 
 the other  one?
 
 ;-)
 
 
 Regards,  
 Sonny
 http://www.sonc.com
 Natchitoches, Louisiana
 Oldest continuous  settlement in La Louisiane
 égalité, liberté, crawfish  
 
 



PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist
For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% detail 
from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who said 
he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the 
sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of CA 
where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an 
extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, the 
detail version is here:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg


Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6, 
1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young lady. 
And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on the 
approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:


http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689

Paul



Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-26 Thread David Savage
On 6/27/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% detail
 from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who said
 he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the
 sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of CA
 where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an
 extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, the
 detail version is here:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg
 

Woo Hoo. I was right. I often miss small details but I picked that one.

The sharpness is very good. But you've manage to do impressive things
with the 80-320. ;-)

 
 Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6,
 1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young lady.
 And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on the
 approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:
 
 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689

As John Travolta said in Face Off,  I hate to see you go, but I love
to watch you leave

very nice Paul.

 
 Paul
 




Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-26 Thread Bob Sullivan
Paul,
Look for another drop below the 1st, just above the auto head lamp.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/26/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks David. I have to admit I never saw the drip. If I noticed it at
 all, I must have assumed it was a highlight on the hood of the car.
 I think any Pentax lens, save perhaps J or Takumar-K series lenses, can
 deliver at least very good results. I believe the exceptions we see are
 either due to damaged equipment or operator error. I could be wrong,
 but that's what I believe.
 Paul
 On Jun 26, 2005, at 8:04 PM, David Savage wrote:
 
  On 6/27/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% detail
  from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who said
  he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the
  sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of CA
  where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an
  extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, the
  detail version is here:
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg
 
 
  Woo Hoo. I was right. I often miss small details but I picked that one.
 
  The sharpness is very good. But you've manage to do impressive things
  with the 80-320. ;-)
 
 
  Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6,
  1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young lady.
  And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on
  the
  approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:
 
  http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689
 
  As John Travolta said in Face Off,  I hate to see you go, but I love
  to watch you leave
 
  very nice Paul.
 
 
  Paul
 
 
 
 




Re: PESO: Detail of Two Ice Creams and a Wide Open Shot

2005-06-26 Thread Paul Stenquist

Hi Bob,
I'm not sure about that one. I looked at it at 400%, and it's not as 
round and uniform as the other drop. What's more, it's right on the 
headlight ring, which does show another specular highlight. Might be a 
drip, might be a highlight. We'll probably never know. Just another 
example of life's great mysteries vbg.

Paul
On Jun 26, 2005, at 10:49 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Paul,
Look for another drop below the 1st, just above the auto head lamp.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 6/26/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks David. I have to admit I never saw the drip. If I noticed it at
all, I must have assumed it was a highlight on the hood of the car.
I think any Pentax lens, save perhaps J or Takumar-K series lenses, 
can
deliver at least very good results. I believe the exceptions we see 
are

either due to damaged equipment or operator error. I could be wrong,
but that's what I believe.
Paul
On Jun 26, 2005, at 8:04 PM, David Savage wrote:


On 6/27/05, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For all those with an interest in the DA 50-200, here's a 200% 
detail
from the girl with two ice creams shot. I think it was Denny who 
said

he saw a drip. Bingo! He get's the eagle eye award. I think the
sharpness is good for this large a magnification. There's a bit of 
CA

where the straw dontrasts with the hood of the car, but that's an
extreme example. I didn't see any CA in other areas. In any case, 
the

detail version is here:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487715size=lg



Woo Hoo. I was right. I often miss small details but I picked that 
one.


The sharpness is very good. But you've manage to do impressive things
with the 80-320. ;-)



Someone else asked to see a wide open shot. This one is at 5.6,
1/1500th, ISO 400. By coincidence it happens to be another young 
lady.

And no, I didn't chicken out and shoot her going away. I got her on
the
approach as well (she smiled). But I like this shot better:

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=3487689


As John Travolta said in Face Off,  I hate to see you go, but I love
to watch you leave

very nice Paul.



Paul