Re: PESO: The scene of an accident

2005-11-07 Thread Butch Black

Hi

I'm glad that you and your wife were not injured. I used to drive transit 
busses. I'm curious, I've never seen an articulated bus like that, any idea 
who makes it. Also, is your Orange line running on regular streets, special 
lanes. or something else?


Butch 





Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-05 Thread Cotty
On 5/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:

Maybe people should just learn what a red light at a crossing really means.

Darwin should take care of the rest.

Ouch!




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-05 Thread keith_w

Rob Studdert wrote:


On 4 Nov 2005 at 21:24, David Oswald wrote:


The one I was in was the third in the first four days of operation of 
the Orange Line.  It was by far the worst though; certanly the only one 
with injuries.


They're now looking at a lot of options; more meaningful warning lights 
at the intersections, crossing arms, etc.  Currently they've implemented 
the 10mph through intersections policy, and have posted traffic cops at 
key intersections until they can get the whole situation sorted out.


Maybe they should paint the orange line buses bright orange instead of 
ghost gray.




Maybe people should just learn what a red light at a crossing really means.

Darwin should take care of the rest.


Yes! One of my favorite pet peeves!
Always blame the implement, not the operator!
Smack someone with a baseball bat, and everybody blames that damned bat! 
Ought to *outlaw* them ~ they're very dangerous!

Only cops should have bats!

Bottom line, pilot error. Human failure once again.

But, it seems that today avoiding blame is de rigueur!
Nobody's ever at fault! Odd, what?

keith whaley




Rob Studdert




Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-05 Thread keith_w

Cotty wrote:


On 5/11/05, Rob Studdert, discombobulated, unleashed:



Maybe people should just learn what a red light at a crossing really means.

Darwin should take care of the rest.




Ouch!


Cheers,
  Cotty



A valid sentiment, truth be known.
It's happening all the time, but the process is not so described often 
enough...


Used to be The devil take the hindmost.
Reference to Darwin just brings it up to date.

keith



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-05 Thread Boris Liberman

Hi!

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.


Sobering... Very sobering...

Boris



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-04 Thread Derek
Dave,

Apparently your accident was not a fluke.  I heard there was another accident 
with the Orange Line buses, the second in its first week of operation.  I guess 
now they are going to slow the buses down to 10 mph when crossing intersections.

Derek







Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-04 Thread Doug Brewer

Derek wrote:

Dave,

Apparently your accident was not a fluke.  I heard there was another accident 
with the Orange Line buses, the second in its first week of operation.  I guess 
now they are going to slow the buses down to 10 mph when crossing intersections.

Derek







Well, that should certainly make them easier to hit.



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-04 Thread P. J. Alling

Logical...

Doug Brewer wrote:


Derek wrote:


Dave,

Apparently your accident was not a fluke.  I heard there was another 
accident with the Orange Line buses, the second in its first week of 
operation.  I guess now they are going to slow the buses down to 10 
mph when crossing intersections.


Derek


Well, that should certainly make them easier to hit.





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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-04 Thread David Oswald
The one I was in was the third in the first four days of operation of 
the Orange Line.  It was by far the worst though; certanly the only one 
with injuries.


They're now looking at a lot of options; more meaningful warning lights 
at the intersections, crossing arms, etc.  Currently they've implemented 
the 10mph through intersections policy, and have posted traffic cops at 
key intersections until they can get the whole situation sorted out.


Maybe they should paint the orange line buses bright orange instead of 
ghost gray.




Derek wrote:

Dave,

Apparently your accident was not a fluke.  I heard there was another accident 
with the Orange Line buses, the second in its first week of operation.  I guess 
now they are going to slow the buses down to 10 mph when crossing intersections.

Derek










Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-04 Thread Rob Studdert
On 4 Nov 2005 at 21:24, David Oswald wrote:

 The one I was in was the third in the first four days of operation of 
 the Orange Line.  It was by far the worst though; certanly the only one 
 with injuries.
 
 They're now looking at a lot of options; more meaningful warning lights 
 at the intersections, crossing arms, etc.  Currently they've implemented 
 the 10mph through intersections policy, and have posted traffic cops at 
 key intersections until they can get the whole situation sorted out.
 
 Maybe they should paint the orange line buses bright orange instead of 
 ghost gray.

Maybe people should just learn what a red light at a crossing really means.

Darwin should take care of the rest.


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Stenquist
Another shot that would surely sell would be one of the emergency 
workers extricating the woman from the car.

Paul
On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:

than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car 
that

ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she 
was

later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come 
in.

 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html


Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the 
same

frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, 
go
vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the 
bus

at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread frank theriault
On 11/2/05, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a
 rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the
 middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner
 Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood.
 The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all
 the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets,
 traffic stops on those surface roads.

 I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was
 going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less
 than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that
 ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
 damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was
 later upgraded to stable).

 We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
 determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
 people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
 Fortunately I had my camera.

 Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

 http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

 Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

 I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us
 is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting
 any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife
 was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little
 inappropriate after the fact. ;)

nice series

-frank

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Sharpness is a bourgeois concept.  -Henri Cartier-Bresson



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
Neat looking bus, but I don't see any damage.

There was a similar incident a while ago, in Minneapolis, I believe, where 
after a bus accident, more people showed up claiming injury, than were actually 
on it at the time of the incident.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)

Dave




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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Scott Loveless
On 11/2/05, David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
 determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
 people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
 Fortunately I had my camera.


A few years back, in St. Louis, a Metro bus was involved in a minor
accident.  There were only a handful of people riding on the bus.  By
the time the ambulance arrived the population of the bus had
tripled, most of them complaining about neck pain.  Go figure. 
Anyway, nice series.  Thanks for sharing.

--
Scott Loveless
http://www.twosixteen.com

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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)

Dave




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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
I still don't see any image of damage to the bus. Seems that would be a shot 
sure to be taken.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.

I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)

Dave




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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
You have to admit that the accident wasn't exactly metrolink's fault.  
Stranding the survivors for 90 minuets is, (brings to mind an old 
joke, I wonder where they were planning to bury them...).


David Oswald wrote:

Yes, there was a 90 minute delay.  Here's why.  An officer eventually 
escorted us to the Woodman stop.  But he forgot to inform the 
metrolink authorities of where we were.  So OrangeLine buses were 
being re-routed past us.  We even went and asked a metrolink security 
officer and he impatiently just said, You're gonna have to work with 
us on this.  20 minutes later we found an apparent supervisor.  She 
said she didn't even know we were waiting.  I said, There were 40 
people travelling on the bus.  You took 12 away to medical attention.  
It doesn't take much of a mental leap to realize that you've got 28 
people stranded here.  A few minutes later they sent a bus by.


It's funny because I'm not a normal rider.  But sometimes on our day 
off we jump on the subway to go to the civic center or to hollywood, 
rather than driving through traffic.  Today I was telling my wife that 
the new Orange Line sounded really convenient, and that we ought to 
give it a try to see where it goes.  We rode less than one stop from 
the park-and-ride lot before we were struck and delayed 90 minutes.  
...very convenient.


Dave

Derek wrote:

Oustanding job!  I'm a Westsider who doesn't get to the valley much, 
so this is the first I've seen of the Orange Line.  Where are the 
pictures of your wife smiling with the firemen? (My wife wants to know).


Derek

P.S.  You had a 90 min delay?  Sounds like LA mass transit at work!




Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really 
stick my nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me 
to stop if I got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably 
shouldn't have worried.  They were all too busy with their big scene 
to bother me.  As I look the shots over I quickly see they're 
nowhere near my best work. I guess I myself was a little flustered, 
plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' want to be too obvious.


The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would 
assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the 
accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped 
boundry.


Tom C wrote:

Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the 
Fresh Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by 
a local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me 
on the phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:


Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic 
kudos for having your camera with you.  My camera is always with 
me, if not just outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in 
there somehow.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  
It is a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called 
Busway, thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, 
connecting Woodland Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink 
subway system starting in North Hollywood. The busyway has 
synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all the 
time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major 
streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the 
experience was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been 
on the bus for less than two minutes, when suddenly it was 
struck by a fast moving car that ran its red light.  The car 
broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously damaged, and driver 
taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was later 
upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first 
responders to determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any 
injuries were just people pretending to be injured, thinking 
their gravy train had come in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it 
held us all up by about 90 minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus 
with us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell 
with me requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to 
remove the ones where my wife was posing, smiling next to the 
firefighters.  It seemed a little

Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread P. J. Alling
There have been photographically ddocumented incidents of people jumping 
onto buses after accidents in New York.


Kenneth Waller wrote:


Neat looking bus, but I don't see any damage.

There was a similar incident a while ago, in Minneapolis, I believe, where 
after a bus accident, more people showed up claiming injury, than were actually 
on it at the time of the incident.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave




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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread David Oswald

We were not allowed out of the bus until after that took place.

Paul Stenquist wrote:
Another shot that would surely sell would be one of the emergency 
workers extricating the woman from the car.

Paul
On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Cotty wrote:


On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:


than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html



Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the same
frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, go
vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the bus
at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.




Cheers,
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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread David Oswald
There was no damage to the bus.  She hit its wheel, and you would never 
know it looking at the bus.



Kenneth Waller wrote:

I still don't see any image of damage to the bus. Seems that would be a shot 
sure to be taken.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave




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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Eactivist
In a message dated 11/3/2005 5:13:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

 Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

 I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us
 is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting
 any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife
 was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little
 inappropriate after the fact. ;)

nice series

-frank

Real visual reporting. Very nice. Though I don't think the accident was. I 
imagine you could have willingly skipped it.

Marnie aka Doe 



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread pnstenquist
I figured that was the case. You did well considering the limitations.
Paul


 We were not allowed out of the bus until after that took place.
 
 Paul Stenquist wrote:
  Another shot that would surely sell would be one of the emergency 
  workers extricating the woman from the car.
  Paul
  On Nov 3, 2005, at 2:23 AM, Cotty wrote:
  
  On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:
 
  than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that
  ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously
  damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was
  later upgraded to stable).
 
  We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to
  determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just
  people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes.
  Fortunately I had my camera.
 
  Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens
 
  http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html
 
 
  Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the same
  frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
  wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, go
  vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the bus
  at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
  back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.
 
 
 
 
  Cheers,
Cotty
 
 
  ___/\__
  ||   (O)   | People, Places, Pastiche
  ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com
  _
 
 
  
  
 



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-03 Thread Kenneth Waller
There was no damage to the bus.  She hit its wheel..

That's a really hard part of the bus to hit. No collapse, so her vehicle took 
the full brunt of the impact.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

There was no damage to the bus.  She hit its wheel, and you would never 
know it looking at the bus.


Kenneth Waller wrote:
 I still don't see any image of damage to the bus. Seems that would be a shot 
 sure to be taken.
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Kenneth Waller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
 
 OOPs, I commented thinking there was only one image posted! Duh
 
 Kenneth Waller
 
 -Original Message-
 From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
 
 Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
 rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
 middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
 Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
 The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
 the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
 traffic stops on those surface roads.
 
 I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
 going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
 than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
 ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
 damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
 later upgraded to stable).
 
 We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
 determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
 people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
   Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
 Fortunately I had my camera.
 
 Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens
 
 http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html
 
 Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.
 
 I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
 is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
 any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
 was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
 inappropriate after the fact. ;)
 
 Dave
 
 
 
 
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PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread David Oswald
Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. 
The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all 
the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, 
traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less 
than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
 Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave



RE: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread Tom C
Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos for 
having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not just 
outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in there 
somehow.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. The 
busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all the 
time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, traffic 
stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less than 
two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that ran its 
red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously damaged, and 
driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was later upgraded 
to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.  
Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us is 
married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting any 
of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife was 
posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little inappropriate 
after the fact. ;)


Dave






Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread David Oswald
The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a 
local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the 
phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:
Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos for 
having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not just 
outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in there 
somehow.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough 
the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / 
Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North 
Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the 
bus moving all the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses 
major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience 
was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for 
less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving 
car that ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was 
seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical 
condition (she was later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come 
in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 
minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with 
us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me 
requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones 
where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed 
a little inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave









Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread Tom C
Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the Fresh Cut 
Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a local 
reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the phone and 
he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:
Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos for 
having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not just 
outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in there 
somehow.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough the 
middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / Warner 
Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North Hollywood. The 
busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the bus moving all the 
time.  This means that as the busline road crosses major streets, traffic 
stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience was 
going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for less than 
two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that ran 
its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in.  
Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me requesting 
any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones where my wife 
was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed a little 
inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave












Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread David Oswald
Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really stick 
my nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me to stop 
if I got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have 
worried.  They were all too busy with their big scene to bother me.  As 
I look the shots over I quickly see they're nowhere near my best work. 
I guess I myself was a little flustered, plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' 
want to be too obvious.


The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would 
assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the 
accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped boundry.


Tom C wrote:
Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the Fresh 
Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a 
local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the 
phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:

Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos 
for having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not 
just outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in 
there somehow.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is 
a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, 
thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland 
Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in 
North Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that 
keep the bus moving all the time.  This means that as the busline 
road crosses major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience 
was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for 
less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving 
car that ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car 
was seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical 
condition (she was later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were 
just people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had 
come in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 
minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with 
us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me 
requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones 
where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It 
seemed a little inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave















Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread Tom C
Ahh... don't fault yourself.  You were there with your tools, doing exactly 
the same thing a newspaper photographer would have done if they were 
present.  Hanging a little low was probably a good idea... but really no one 
should be paying attention to a photographer when there's a crisis...


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:36:28 -0800

Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really stick my 
nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me to stop if I 
got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have worried.  
They were all too busy with their big scene to bother me.  As I look the 
shots over I quickly see they're nowhere near my best work. I guess I 
myself was a little flustered, plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' want to be 
too obvious.


The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would assume I 
was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the accident victims, 
and escort me out from within the police taped boundry.


Tom C wrote:
Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the Fresh 
Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a local 
reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the phone 
and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:

Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos for 
having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not just 
outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in there 
somehow.


Tom C.





From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is a 
rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, thorough 
the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland Hills / 
Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in North 
Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that keep the 
bus moving all the time.  This means that as the busline road crosses 
major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience 
was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for 
less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car 
that ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was 
seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical 
condition (she was later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come 
in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with us 
is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me 
requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones 
where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It seemed 
a little inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave


















Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread Derek
Oustanding job!  I'm a Westsider who doesn't get to the valley much, so this is 
the first I've seen of the Orange Line.  Where are the pictures of your wife 
smiling with the firemen? (My wife wants to know).

Derek

P.S.  You had a 90 min delay?  Sounds like LA mass transit at work!



 Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really stick 
 my nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me to stop 
 if I got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have 
 worried.  They were all too busy with their big scene to bother me.  As 
 I look the shots over I quickly see they're nowhere near my best work. 
 I guess I myself was a little flustered, plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' 
 want to be too obvious.
 
 The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would 
 assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the 
 accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped boundry.
 
 Tom C wrote:
  Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the Fresh 
  Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.
  
  Tom C.
  
  
  
  
  From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
  Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800
 
  The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a 
  local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the 
  phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.
 
  Tom C wrote:
 
  Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos 
  for having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not 
  just outside in the car.
 
  Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in 
  there somehow.
 
  Tom C.
 
 
 
 
  From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
  Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
  Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800
 
  Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is 
  a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, 
  thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland 
  Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in 
  North Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that 
  keep the bus moving all the time.  This means that as the busline 
  road crosses major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.
 
  I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience 
  was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for 
  less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving 
  car that ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car 
  was seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical 
  condition (she was later upgraded to stable).
 
  We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
  determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were 
  just people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had 
  come in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 
  minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.
 
  Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens
 
  http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html
 
  Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.
 
  I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with 
  us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me 
  requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones 
  where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It 
  seemed a little inappropriate after the fact. ;)
 
  Dave
 
 
 
 
 
  
  
  
 



Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread David Oswald
I haven't posted those.  I'll post them later.  At the moment, a news 
agency or two has been given the URL to these photos to use if they need 
shots of the incident.  I didn't want shots of her posing with a big 
grin showing up in the LA Times.


Derek wrote:

Oustanding job!  I'm a Westsider who doesn't get to the valley much, so this is 
the first I've seen of the Orange Line.  Where are the pictures of your wife 
smiling with the firemen? (My wife wants to know).

Derek

P.S.  You had a 90 min delay?  Sounds like LA mass transit at work!




Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really stick 
my nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me to stop 
if I got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have 
worried.  They were all too busy with their big scene to bother me.  As 
I look the shots over I quickly see they're nowhere near my best work. 
I guess I myself was a little flustered, plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' 
want to be too obvious.


The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would 
assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the 
accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped boundry.


Tom C wrote:

Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the Fresh 
Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a 
local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the 
phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:


Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos 
for having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not 
just outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in 
there somehow.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is 
a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, 
thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland 
Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in 
North Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that 
keep the bus moving all the time.  This means that as the busline 
road crosses major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience 
was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for 
less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving 
car that ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car 
was seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical 
condition (she was later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were 
just people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had 
come in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 
minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with 
us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me 
requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones 
where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It 
seemed a little inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave















Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread David Oswald
Yes, there was a 90 minute delay.  Here's why.  An officer eventually 
escorted us to the Woodman stop.  But he forgot to inform the metrolink 
authorities of where we were.  So OrangeLine buses were being re-routed 
past us.  We even went and asked a metrolink security officer and he 
impatiently just said, You're gonna have to work with us on this.  20 
minutes later we found an apparent supervisor.  She said she didn't even 
know we were waiting.  I said, There were 40 people travelling on the 
bus.  You took 12 away to medical attention.  It doesn't take much of a 
mental leap to realize that you've got 28 people stranded here.  A few 
minutes later they sent a bus by.


It's funny because I'm not a normal rider.  But sometimes on our day off 
we jump on the subway to go to the civic center or to hollywood, rather 
than driving through traffic.  Today I was telling my wife that the new 
Orange Line sounded really convenient, and that we ought to give it a 
try to see where it goes.  We rode less than one stop from the 
park-and-ride lot before we were struck and delayed 90 minutes.  ...very 
convenient.


Dave

Derek wrote:

Oustanding job!  I'm a Westsider who doesn't get to the valley much, so this is 
the first I've seen of the Orange Line.  Where are the pictures of your wife 
smiling with the firemen? (My wife wants to know).

Derek

P.S.  You had a 90 min delay?  Sounds like LA mass transit at work!




Thanks.  I was just kind of snapping away, but too timid to really stick 
my nose in it.  I was afraid that eventually they would ask me to stop 
if I got too aggressive.  In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have 
worried.  They were all too busy with their big scene to bother me.  As 
I look the shots over I quickly see they're nowhere near my best work. 
I guess I myself was a little flustered, plus, as I mentioned, I didnt' 
want to be too obvious.


The thought did cross my mind that if I got too obvious they would 
assume I was just a passer-by with a camera rather than one of the 
accident victims, and escort me out from within the police taped boundry.


Tom C wrote:

Just viewed them all.  Excellent job.  I love the irony :-( of the Fresh 
Cut Flowers and Easy to Get Across the Valley shots.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:21:33 -0800

The last shot in the sequence is of a kid that was interviewed by a 
local reporter via his wife's cell phone.  His wife then put me on the 
phone and he asked me to snap a shot of the kid.  No problem.


Tom C wrote:


Still waiting for the photos to come in.  Great job!  Gigantic kudos 
for having your camera with you.  My camera is always with me, if not 
just outside in the car.


Looking forward to seeing them as they download.  Work Pentax in 
there somehow.


Tom C.






From: David Oswald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Subject: PESO: The scene of an accident.
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:30:36 -0800

Los Angeles introduced a new bus line on the 29th of October.  It is 
a rapid line that runs on a road all its own called Busway, 
thorough the middle of the San Fernando Valley, connecting Woodland 
Hills / Warner Center with the Metrolink subway system starting in 
North Hollywood. The busyway has synchronized traffic lights that 
keep the bus moving all the time.  This means that as the busline 
road crosses major streets, traffic stops on those surface roads.


I rode the Orange Line today as a novelty, to see how the experience 
was going to be.  My wife came with me.  We had been on the bus for 
less than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving 
car that ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car 
was seriously damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical 
condition (she was later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were 
just people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had 
come in.  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 
minutes. Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Warning: It's about 4.5 megabytes of photos that will load.

I posted the pictures quickly because a woman riding on the bus with 
us is married to a reporter.  Quickly he was on the cell with me 
requesting any of the pictures I took.  ...I had to remove the ones 
where my wife was posing, smiling next to the firefighters.  It 
seemed a little inappropriate after the fact. ;)


Dave















Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread Cotty
On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:

than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).

We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
  Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.

Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html

Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the same
frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, go
vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the bus
at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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Re: PESO: The scene of an accident.

2005-11-02 Thread David Oswald
That's good advice, and I actually noticed the absence of such a shot 
afterward when I was reviewing the pictures.


I should have gotten in closer and shot wider from that perspective. 
Most of those shots were taken at the long end of my 16-45..




Cotty wrote:

On 2/11/05, David Oswald, discombobulated, unleashed:


than two minutes, when suddenly it was struck by a fast moving car that 
ran its red light.  The car broadsided the bus.  The car was seriously 
damaged, and driver taken to the hospital in critical condition (she was 
later upgraded to stable).


We were then put through a triage routine by the first responders to 
determine who (if anyone) was injured.  Mostly any injuries were just 
people pretending to be injured, thinking their gravy train had come in. 
Despicable really.  Anyway, it held us all up by about 90 minutes. 
Fortunately I had my camera.


Taken with the *ist-DS, and the DA16-45 lens

http://users.adelphia.net/~daoswald/pictures/index.html



Well done David. FYI - next time (!) try and get the casualty in the same
frame as the bus  - that would have been the pic the paper would have
wanted. I know it's easy to say that, but shuffle right to the front, go
vertical, casualty and team at the bottom of frame, the front of the bus
at the top. A couple of shots rattled off before you're asked to step
back and bingo. Under the circumstances, you did well.




Cheers,
  Cotty


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