Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Thank you very much, Igor. On Fri, Sep 30, 2016 at 11:54 AM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > Bruce, > > In contrast to #1, this image doesn't show much of muscle tension: the > position is more comfortable. This pose is more comfortable (and you > described previously why). > > Enjoying watching your work, > > Igor > > > Bruce Walker Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:26:48 -0700 wrote: > > The next in my Body Language series. > > http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 > > > 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; > > 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. > > Comments always welcome. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Bruce, In contrast to #1, this image doesn't show much of muscle tension: the position is more comfortable. This pose is more comfortable (and you described previously why). Enjoying watching your work, Igor Bruce Walker Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:26:48 -0700 wrote: The next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. Comments always welcome. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
On 9/27/2016 8:54 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Standing, Richard. One wonders if Richard has ever seen a naked lady or not. On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Richard Klein wrote: Are the models standing or prone? On Sep 26, 2016 9:26 PM, "Bruce Walker" wrote: The next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. Comments always welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Thanks, Larry. >> >> #2 is here on ello.co: >> >> https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/hgtep983uxryoyyrnfewww >> >> I haven't posted it to my portfolio yet it seems. > > > Thanks, that's also nice, but #3 is my favorite. > > I am amused that you start posting this series now, sometime around labor > day I had the idea for some group nude photos myself, I just hadn't gotten > around to it. Heh, coincidence: I did this shoot on the Sunday of Labour Day weekend. :) It was a blast and some of my best ever work has resulted from it. I'm extremely happy with it. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Bruce Walker wrote: Thanks, Larry. #2 is here on ello.co: https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/hgtep983uxryoyyrnfewww I haven't posted it to my portfolio yet it seems. Thanks, that's also nice, but #3 is my favorite. I am amused that you start posting this series now, sometime around labor day I had the idea for some group nude photos myself, I just hadn't gotten around to it. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Thanks, Larry. #2 is here on ello.co: https://ello.co/brucewalker/post/hgtep983uxryoyyrnfewww I haven't posted it to my portfolio yet it seems. On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 3:40 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> The next in my Body Language series. >> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 > > > Very nice. I might have missed #2, but I like this a lot better than the > first one. > >> >> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; >> >> 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. >> >> Comments always welcome. >> > > -- > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Standing, Richard. On Tue, Sep 27, 2016 at 1:15 AM, Richard Klein wrote: > Are the models standing or prone? > > On Sep 26, 2016 9:26 PM, "Bruce Walker" wrote: > >> The next in my Body Language series. >> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 >> >> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; >> >> 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. >> >> Comments always welcome. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. >> > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
You mean trouble like the 30 day ban from Facebook that I'm now under? Well, yeah. But it was worth it. :) On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 10:08 PM, Zos Xavius wrote: > That's the kind of of picture that can get you into trouble Bruce. ;) > > On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> The next in my Body Language series. >> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 >> >> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; >> >> 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. >> >> Comments always welcome. >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Bruce Walker wrote: The next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 Very nice. I might have missed #2, but I like this a lot better than the first one. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. Comments always welcome. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com (postbox on min4est) http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
Are the models standing or prone? On Sep 26, 2016 9:26 PM, "Bruce Walker" wrote: > The next in my Body Language series. > > http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 > > 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; > > 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. > > Comments always welcome. > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
That's the kind of of picture that can get you into trouble Bruce. ;) On Mon, Sep 26, 2016 at 9:25 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > The next in my Body Language series. > > http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 > > 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; > > 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. > > Comments always welcome. > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO - jigsaw #3 (nsfw)
The next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/IHsDA9atyyg0 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO; 5' silver PLM with diffuser camera right; white reflector camera left. Comments always welcome. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw
You better believe I'm waiting for the right dancer(s) to work with, Larry. I love dancers because they move so fluidly, gracefully and can improvise poses to die for on the spot. I worked with a wonderful dancer who, sadly, does not do nude work, but I got great shots with her. Here's a gallery of her improvising with a hunk of rope I gave her ... http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/G2VbXbemyuRg (The shots where she's in a one-piece leotard.) I have contact info for two fabulous art nude dancers, one local and one in Montreal. When the French one comes to Toronto next I just might get them together for a shoot. It would be a blast I know. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > Excellent idea, well executed, but I think it is worth revisiting with what > you have learned. > I wonder if maybe you could find models from the dance communities. Igor or I > might be able to introduce you to people in the blues, fusion, lindy or tango > communities. > One of my first nude photo shoots was an attempt at dance photos. > Unfortunately, that was also one of my first photo shoots and my technical > skills were sorely lacking. It is a concept that I've been meaning to revisit. > > > On September 9, 2016 11:07:52 AM PDT, Bruce Walker > wrote: >>Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more >>relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly >>what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite >>well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would >>have resulted in falling short of perfection. >> >>Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's >>trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on >>a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their >>curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this >>one pose. >> >>Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45 >>minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever >>worked with two nude models. >> >>If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I >>could get even a better overall look. >> >>But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you. >> >>:) >> >>Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated! >> >> >>On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR >>wrote: >>> >>> >>> Cuteing edge photography? ;-) >>> >>> >>> Bruce, >>> Nice idea and photo. >>> >>> But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in >>the >>> morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. >>> >>> You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having >>been >>> dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate >>the >>> ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing >>yields >>> the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. >>> Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related >>topics >>> (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance >>> instructors from difference dances. >>> >>> While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops >>on how >>> to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've >>analyzed >>> together with the workshop participants the visible level of >>> ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant >>aspects of >>> that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in >>motion >>> (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. >>> And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually >>see how >>> ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's >>dances. >>> >>> >>> All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming >>from. >>> (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your >>photography.) >>> We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of >>2014. >>> So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas >>introduction >>> now, 2+ years later. >>> >>> Now, to the point: >>> What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is >>rather >>> uncomfortable for the model on the right. >>> I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in >>this >>> case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more >>> comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. >>> But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? >>> >>> Igor >>> >>> >>> >>> ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: >>> >>> cutting edge photography :-) >>> >>> nice >>> >>> ann >>> >>> >>> On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY nsfw: nipples in profile. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO Comments always welcome! >>
Re: PESO - jigsaw
Thank you, Paul! On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 8:50 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote: > An intriguing concept, well executed. > > Paul via phone > >> On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: >> >> On 9/9/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >> >>> Next in my Body Language series. >>> >>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY >> >> Tonality is subtle and pleasing, shapes also. >> >> Really nice work as usual Bruce >> >> -- >> >> >> Cheers, >> Cotty >> >> >> ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, >> || (O) |Web Video Production >> -- >> _ >> >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw
On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 6:37 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > On 9/9/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: > >>Next in my Body Language series. >> >>http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY > > Tonality is subtle and pleasing, shapes also. > > Really nice work as usual Bruce Thank you kindly, Cotty. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO - jigsaw
I did do some lying down shots, Igor, and they are coming up in my retouching list. But to address your idea that lying horizontally might make it easier to create the curves-match, well yes, but I'd not get the same results at all because: gravity. At the risk of sounding crude -- wait, you are married, are you not? Have you ever spent any time observing the effects of gravity on the human female breast? The shape of breasts varies wildly depending on their owner's orientation; most notably: standing, lying on side, lying on back, on hands and knees. So the only way to get that perfect teardrop shape (two intersecting catenary curves) with both Dorrie and Camille, they had to be standing. And for the lying shots, I climbed up a 12 foot ladder. I wasn't directly overhead, so there's a slight angle to the shots, but it was safer for them in case I dropped that 7 pound camera! I'd love to have a proper lift or a loft. Maybe when I can afford a better studio. :) Thanks once again, Igor. On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 3:31 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > After having written, a constructive idea came to my mind: > I am thinking if the same shot as you did would work better if the models > where lying (horizontally), while the camera would be right above them. That > would allow an easier back-curve "matching", while avoiding unnecessary > strain. > > But then, it might be harder to accomplish, unless you have some type of > gantry or a boom lift in the studio (or a 2-level loft with a balcony). > > ... but the models you have are better than that equipment. :-) > > Igor > > > > Bruce Walker Fri, 09 Sep 2016 11:09:18 -0700 wrote: > > Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more > relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly > what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite > well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would > have resulted in falling short of perfection. > > > Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's > trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on > a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their > curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this > one pose. > > Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45 > minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever > worked with two nude models. > > If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I > could get even a better overall look. > > But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you. > > :) > > Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated! > > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > >> >> >> Cuteing edge photography? ;-) >> >> >> Bruce, >> Nice idea and photo. >> >> But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in the >> morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. >> >> You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been >> dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the >> ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields >> the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. >> Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics >> (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance >> instructors from difference dances. >> >> While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how >> to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed >> together with the workshop participants the visible level of >> ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects of >> that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in motion >> (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. >> And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how >> ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances. >> >> >> All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from. >> (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.) >> We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 2014. >> So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas introduction >> now, 2+ years later. >> >> Now, to the point: >> What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is rather >> uncomfortable for the model on the right. >> I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in this >> case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more >> comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. >> But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? >> >> Igor >> >> >> ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: >> >> cutting edge photography :-) >> >> nice >> >> ann >> >> >> On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce W
Re: PESO - jigsaw
Excellent idea, well executed, but I think it is worth revisiting with what you have learned. I wonder if maybe you could find models from the dance communities. Igor or I might be able to introduce you to people in the blues, fusion, lindy or tango communities. One of my first nude photo shoots was an attempt at dance photos. Unfortunately, that was also one of my first photo shoots and my technical skills were sorely lacking. It is a concept that I've been meaning to revisit. On September 9, 2016 11:07:52 AM PDT, Bruce Walker wrote: >Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more >relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly >what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite >well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would >have resulted in falling short of perfection. > >Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's >trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on >a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their >curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this >one pose. > >Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45 >minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever >worked with two nude models. > >If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I >could get even a better overall look. > >But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you. > >:) > >Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated! > > >On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR >wrote: >> >> >> Cuteing edge photography? ;-) >> >> >> Bruce, >> Nice idea and photo. >> >> But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in >the >> morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. >> >> You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having >been >> dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate >the >> ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing >yields >> the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. >> Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related >topics >> (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance >> instructors from difference dances. >> >> While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops >on how >> to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've >analyzed >> together with the workshop participants the visible level of >> ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant >aspects of >> that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in >motion >> (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. >> And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually >see how >> ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's >dances. >> >> >> All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming >from. >> (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your >photography.) >> We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of >2014. >> So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas >introduction >> now, 2+ years later. >> >> Now, to the point: >> What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is >rather >> uncomfortable for the model on the right. >> I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in >this >> case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more >> comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. >> But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? >> >> Igor >> >> >> >> ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: >> >> cutting edge photography :-) >> >> nice >> >> ann >> >> >> On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> >>> Next in my Body Language series. >>> >>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY >>> >>> nsfw: nipples in profile. >>> >>> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO >>> >>> Comments always welcome! >>> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >and >> follow the directions. -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse any swypos. http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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At least I made you feel something, Jack. :) You may be much more perceptive of a person's comfort levels than I am, Jack; I just don't see it -- the strain, that is. They _are_ positioned very unnaturally in order to get the geometry I desired. But they claimed they were pretty comfortable and were able to hold the pose for a time while I instructed them to make small adjustments like the angle of raised arms to get shoulder blades into position. It may be that with other models, perhaps more flexible -- yoga instructors for instance -- that I can get even more "natural", composed looks. I will try that when I next get a chance. (I only know one nude art model who is great at yoga.) I'm always serious about these shoots. It takes too much effort to coordinate these things not to go all out. Thanks for looking and commenting, Jack! On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:27 PM, Jack Davis wrote: > > Like the consept, Bruce, but from the instant I saw this I was in sort of a > stress mode > attempting to make the models less strained and contorted. The idea is good, > but worthy of > a serious effort. > > J > > - Original Message - > From: "Bruce Walker" > To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 6:28:45 AM > Subject: PESO - jigsaw > > Next in my Body Language series. > > http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY > > nsfw: nipples in profile. > > 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO > > Comments always welcome! > > -- > -bmw > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > >> It likely took over a minute just to get this >> one pose. >> > > A whole minuite That is pretty efficient work, but anyone else's > standards! > > This image has wonderful curving lines; It is effective even as an > abstract. > > The tones are marvelous, and the overall composition quite effective. > > This series of images with nude models is really superb. Thank you very much, Dan. Really appreciate it. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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An intriguing concept, well executed. Paul via phone > On Sep 10, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote: > > On 9/9/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: > >> Next in my Body Language series. >> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY > > Tonality is subtle and pleasing, shapes also. > > Really nice work as usual Bruce > > -- > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, > || (O) |Web Video Production > -- > _ > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/9/16, Bruce Walker, discombobulated, unleashed: >Next in my Body Language series. > >http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY Tonality is subtle and pleasing, shapes also. Really nice work as usual Bruce -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production -- _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/9/2016 3:31 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: I see. And just as a followup thought (which is probably obvious): I didn't mean that dance experience of a model is needed (even though it could be a big added bonus). And in reverse, I am not sure that all good dancers would make good models. After having written, a constructive idea came to my mind: I am thinking if the same shot as you did would work better if the models where lying (horizontally), while the camera would be right above them. That would allow an easier back-curve "matching", while avoiding unnecessary strain. But then, it might be harder to accomplish, unless you have some type of gantry or a boom lift in the studio (or a 2-level loft with a balcony). ... but the models you have are better than that equipment. :-) Igor You could probably do it with one of those "Little Giant" ladders that folds every which way. Bruce Walker Fri, 09 Sep 2016 11:09:18 -0700 wrote: Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would have resulted in falling short of perfection. Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this one pose. Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45 minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever worked with two nude models. If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I could get even a better overall look. But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you. :) Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated! On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Cuteing edge photography? ;-) Bruce, Nice idea and photo. But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in the morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance instructors from difference dances. While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed together with the workshop participants the visible level of ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects of that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in motion (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances. All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from. (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.) We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 2014. So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas introduction now, 2+ years later. Now, to the point: What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is rather uncomfortable for the model on the right. I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in this case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? Igor ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: cutting edge photography :-) nice ann On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY nsfw: nipples in profile. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO Comments always welcome! -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I see. And just as a followup thought (which is probably obvious): I didn't mean that dance experience of a model is needed (even though it could be a big added bonus). And in reverse, I am not sure that all good dancers would make good models. After having written, a constructive idea came to my mind: I am thinking if the same shot as you did would work better if the models where lying (horizontally), while the camera would be right above them. That would allow an easier back-curve "matching", while avoiding unnecessary strain. But then, it might be harder to accomplish, unless you have some type of gantry or a boom lift in the studio (or a 2-level loft with a balcony). ... but the models you have are better than that equipment. :-) Igor Bruce Walker Fri, 09 Sep 2016 11:09:18 -0700 wrote: Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would have resulted in falling short of perfection. Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this one pose. Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45 minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever worked with two nude models. If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I could get even a better overall look. But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you. :) Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated! On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: Cuteing edge photography? ;-) Bruce, Nice idea and photo. But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in the morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance instructors from difference dances. While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed together with the workshop participants the visible level of ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects of that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in motion (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances. All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from. (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.) We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 2014. So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas introduction now, 2+ years later. Now, to the point: What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is rather uncomfortable for the model on the right. I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in this case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? Igor ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: cutting edge photography :-) nice ann On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY nsfw: nipples in profile. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO Comments always welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Like the consept, Bruce, but from the instant I saw this I was in sort of a stress mode attempting to make the models less strained and contorted. The idea is good, but worthy of a serious effort. J - Original Message - From: "Bruce Walker" To: "Pentax Discuss Mailing List" Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 6:28:45 AM Subject: PESO - jigsaw Next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY nsfw: nipples in profile. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO Comments always welcome! -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 2:07 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: > It likely took over a minute just to get this > one pose. > A whole minuite That is pretty efficient work, but anyone else's standards! This image has wonderful curving lines; It is effective even as an abstract. The tones are marvelous, and the overall composition quite effective. This series of images with nude models is really superb. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Thank you very much, Marco. I have long admired Robert Mapplethorpe's nude studies and I have strived to get the tones that he achieved in his female nude studies. With this one, I think I'm just about there. :) On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:29 PM, Marco Alpert wrote: > I’ll resist the impulse to pile on the pun train (to mangle a metaphor), and > point out that your B&W tonalities (here and elsewhere) are lovely in the > extreme. > > m > >> On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Well, I saw that coming. :) Thanks, Ann! >> >> On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: >>> cutting edge photography :-) >>> >>> nice >>> >>> ann >>> >>> >>> On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY nsfw: nipples in profile. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO Comments always welcome! > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Zooming right to the point, I agree with you, Igor, that the more relaxed the posing the better the results. And harmony is certainly what I hope to get if possible. I thought that my two models did quite well following my directions, but no doubt a number of factors would have resulted in falling short of perfection. Dorrie on the right is 5 inches shorter than Camille, and Camille's trunk is longer than Dorrie's. Neither of them dances. I put Dorrie on a step stool then iteratively directed them as they tried to fit their curved backs together. It likely took over a minute just to get this one pose. Oh, and Dorrie and Camille met for the first time at this shoot, 45 minutes before this shot. And this was the first time I had ever worked with two nude models. If I had a couple of trained dancers who also worked together, I bet I could get even a better overall look. But as they say, the best nude models are the ones you have with you. :) Thanks, as always for your well considered thoughts, Igor. Appreciated! On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Igor PDML-StR wrote: > > > Cuteing edge photography? ;-) > > > Bruce, > Nice idea and photo. > > But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in the > morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. > > You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been > dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the > ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields > the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. > Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics > (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance > instructors from difference dances. > > While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how > to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed > together with the workshop participants the visible level of > ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects of > that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in motion > (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. > And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how > ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances. > > > All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from. > (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.) > We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 2014. > So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas introduction > now, 2+ years later. > > Now, to the point: > What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is rather > uncomfortable for the model on the right. > I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in this > case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more > comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. > But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? > > Igor > > > > ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: > > cutting edge photography :-) > > nice > > ann > > > On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Next in my Body Language series. >> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY >> >> nsfw: nipples in profile. >> >> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO >> >> Comments always welcome! >> > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Cuteing edge photography? ;-) Bruce, Nice idea and photo. But there is something that bothered me when I looked at the photo in the morning, and it still does, when I am looking at it again. You might remember that I've been photographing dancers. And having been dancing myself a several different "vernacular" dances, I appreciate the ergonomics of the dance. And I am convinced that ergonomic dancing yields the true beauty of the dance, both social and performance versions. Over the years, I've had extensive discussions on this and related topics (including photographs of dancers) with several respectful dance instructors from difference dances. While sharing my thoughts dancers and photographers in my workshops on how to make better photographs of dancers (from both sides), I've analyzed together with the workshop participants the visible level of ergonomics/comfort in different photos. And a couple of relevant aspects of that are: (1) It is usually easy to see if the photo was taken in motion (dynamic) or while hitting the pose statically. And (2) in both dynamic and even in static photos, one can usually see how ergonomic that pose was. This is especially apparent in couple's dances. All this long prelude is to describe where my comment is stemming from. (As it is a rather different perspective than that of your photography.) We've already discussed the issue of pose ergonomics back in June of 2014. So, forgive me for repeating certain aspects of the same ideas introduction now, 2+ years later. Now, to the point: What keeps swirling in my mind is that in this photo the pose is rather uncomfortable for the model on the right. I might be wrong, but I don't think you were going after tension in this case, as I think it was the harmony. I think if the pose were more comfortable, the photo would radiate more harmony. But maybe you had a different intent. Hence my curiousity: Did you? Igor ann sanfedele Fri, 09 Sep 2016 08:20:31 -0700 wrote: cutting edge photography :-) nice ann On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: Next in my Body Language series. http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY nsfw: nipples in profile. 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO Comments always welcome! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I’ll resist the impulse to pile on the pun train (to mangle a metaphor), and point out that your B&W tonalities (here and elsewhere) are lovely in the extreme. m > On Sep 9, 2016, at 9:51 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: > > Well, I saw that coming. :) Thanks, Ann! > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: >> cutting edge photography :-) >> >> nice >> >> ann >> >> >> On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >>> >>> Next in my Body Language series. >>> >>> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY >>> >>> nsfw: nipples in profile. >>> >>> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO >>> >>> Comments always welcome! >>> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, I saw that coming. :) Thanks, Ann! On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 11:19 AM, ann sanfedele wrote: > cutting edge photography :-) > > nice > > ann > > > On 9/9/2016 9:28 AM, Bruce Walker wrote: >> >> Next in my Body Language series. >> >> http://portfolio.brucemwalker.com/index/I70xb_T3x.lY >> >> nsfw: nipples in profile. >> >> 645z, dfa645 90mm/2.8 macro, f:13, 1/125th sec, 100 ISO >> >> Comments always welcome! >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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