Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Rick Womer]

Thanks for the suggestions, all!

I really like this group…

Rick

> On Mar 1, 2023, at 6:56 AM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> I three that it is better :-)
> 
> ann
> 
> On 2/28/2023 11:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> I agree that it is indeed better.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:38 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bill, this is the best I could do; it -is- an improvement methinks:
>>> 
>>> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-wwVgf5Z/A
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
 On Feb 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Bill  wrote:
 
 On 2/28/2023 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
> Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto 
> RGB.
> 
> Rick
 That's pretty much what I do, but I set to sRGB because the raw file 
 doesn't care, but I get one more letter for filename customization.
 ProPhoto is the widest gamut available, sRGB is the smallest.
 
 See:
 https://learn.zoner.com/srgb-prophoto-rgb-and-more-do-you-know-your-color-spaces/
 
 ProPhoto handles cyan much better. That being the opposite of red, reds 
 benefit.
 Of course, when we convert to sRGB, all that nice cyan information is gone 
 and the reds saturate and block up and all seem to be the same shade.
 And that is why the red flower needed a little help for the web.
 
 At least, that's what I understand how it works.
 
 bill
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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[ann sanfedele]

I three that it is better :-)

ann

On 2/28/2023 11:22 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

I agree that it is indeed better.



On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:38 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:

Bill, this is the best I could do; it -is- an improvement methinks:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-wwVgf5Z/A

Cheers,

Rick


On Feb 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 2/28/2023 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto RGB.

Rick

That's pretty much what I do, but I set to sRGB because the raw file doesn't 
care, but I get one more letter for filename customization.
ProPhoto is the widest gamut available, sRGB is the smallest.

See:
https://learn.zoner.com/srgb-prophoto-rgb-and-more-do-you-know-your-color-spaces/

ProPhoto handles cyan much better. That being the opposite of red, reds benefit.
Of course, when we convert to sRGB, all that nice cyan information is gone and 
the reds saturate and block up and all seem to be the same shade.
And that is why the red flower needed a little help for the web.

At least, that's what I understand how it works.

bill
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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Larry Colen]

I agree that it is indeed better.


> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:38 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> 
> Bill, this is the best I could do; it -is- an improvement methinks:
> 
> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-wwVgf5Z/A
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rick
> 
>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Bill  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2/28/2023 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>>> Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto RGB.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>> That's pretty much what I do, but I set to sRGB because the raw file doesn't 
>> care, but I get one more letter for filename customization.
>> ProPhoto is the widest gamut available, sRGB is the smallest.
>> 
>> See:
>> https://learn.zoner.com/srgb-prophoto-rgb-and-more-do-you-know-your-color-spaces/
>> 
>> ProPhoto handles cyan much better. That being the opposite of red, reds 
>> benefit.
>> Of course, when we convert to sRGB, all that nice cyan information is gone 
>> and the reds saturate and block up and all seem to be the same shade.
>> And that is why the red flower needed a little help for the web.
>> 
>> At least, that's what I understand how it works.
>> 
>> bill
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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Bill]

I like that a lot better. The overall view of it is happier, Ann's 
comment about lightening it a bit was a good one, and now the red flower 
has more presence. I like that the white flower is brighter as well.

I like this presentation.

thanks

bill

On 2/28/2023 8:38 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bill, this is the best I could do; it -is- an improvement methinks:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-wwVgf5Z/A

Cheers,

Rick


On Feb 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 2/28/2023 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto RGB.

Rick

That's pretty much what I do, but I set to sRGB because the raw file doesn't 
care, but I get one more letter for filename customization.
ProPhoto is the widest gamut available, sRGB is the smallest.

See:
https://learn.zoner.com/srgb-prophoto-rgb-and-more-do-you-know-your-color-spaces/

ProPhoto handles cyan much better. That being the opposite of red, reds benefit.
Of course, when we convert to sRGB, all that nice cyan information is gone and 
the reds saturate and block up and all seem to be the same shade.
And that is why the red flower needed a little help for the web.

At least, that's what I understand how it works.

bill


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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Rick Womer]

Bill, this is the best I could do; it -is- an improvement methinks:

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-wwVgf5Z/A

Cheers,

Rick

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 8:06 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 2/28/2023 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto RGB.
>> 
>> Rick
> That's pretty much what I do, but I set to sRGB because the raw file doesn't 
> care, but I get one more letter for filename customization.
> ProPhoto is the widest gamut available, sRGB is the smallest.
> 
> See:
> https://learn.zoner.com/srgb-prophoto-rgb-and-more-do-you-know-your-color-spaces/
> 
> ProPhoto handles cyan much better. That being the opposite of red, reds 
> benefit.
> Of course, when we convert to sRGB, all that nice cyan information is gone 
> and the reds saturate and block up and all seem to be the same shade.
> And that is why the red flower needed a little help for the web.
> 
> At least, that's what I understand how it works.
> 
> bill
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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Bill]

On 2/28/2023 6:46 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto RGB.

Rick
That's pretty much what I do, but I set to sRGB because the raw file 
doesn't care, but I get one more letter for filename customization.

ProPhoto is the widest gamut available, sRGB is the smallest.

See:
https://learn.zoner.com/srgb-prophoto-rgb-and-more-do-you-know-your-color-spaces/

ProPhoto handles cyan much better. That being the opposite of red, reds 
benefit.
Of course, when we convert to sRGB, all that nice cyan information is 
gone and the reds saturate and block up and all seem to be the same shade.

And that is why the red flower needed a little help for the web.

At least, that's what I understand how it works.

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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Rick Womer]

Bill, I shoot DNGs with Adobe RGB color space. Adobe is using ProPhoto RGB.

Rick

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 6:47 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> Depending on the colour space you edit in, converting to sRGB can kill things 
> like highlights and especially reds, which have a tiny little gamut in sRGB.
> 
> bill
> 
> On 2/28/2023 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Thanks, Bill.
>> 
>> The odd thing is that I did a series of adjustments to the dng file, 
>> increasing contrast and saturation and brightening the flowers. When I 
>> converted the dngs to jpgs, the changes were there but subtle. Usually the 
>> jpg is much closer to the final dng.
>> 
>> Methinks I will try again, abandoning any subtlety.
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>>> On Feb 28, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Bill  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2/28/2023 2:50 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
 Sunlight came through our living room window at just the right time.
 
 https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-F8Mft6Q/A
 
 (K-5, DA 17-70)
 
 Comments always appreciated.
>>> That is really quite pretty.
>>> If I could make a suggestion, go back in and raise the reds and the whites/ 
>>> highlights just a little wee bit. Just to give them a bit of pop.
>>> I don't do this often, but I took the liberty of downloading the image. I 
>>> put it into Camera Raw and raised the whites/highlights just enough to have 
>>> the clipping warning come on, and the reds I dialed in -21.
>>> 
>>> I really like that image.
>>> 
>>> bill
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Bill]

Depending on the colour space you edit in, converting to sRGB can kill 
things like highlights and especially reds, which have a tiny little 
gamut in sRGB.


bill

On 2/28/2023 5:19 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Thanks, Bill.

The odd thing is that I did a series of adjustments to the dng file, increasing 
contrast and saturation and brightening the flowers. When I converted the dngs 
to jpgs, the changes were there but subtle. Usually the jpg is much closer to 
the final dng.

Methinks I will try again, abandoning any subtlety.

Rick


On Feb 28, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 2/28/2023 2:50 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Sunlight came through our living room window at just the right time.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-F8Mft6Q/A

(K-5, DA 17-70)

Comments always appreciated.

That is really quite pretty.
If I could make a suggestion, go back in and raise the reds and the whites/ 
highlights just a little wee bit. Just to give them a bit of pop.
I don't do this often, but I took the liberty of downloading the image. I put 
it into Camera Raw and raised the whites/highlights just enough to have the 
clipping warning come on, and the reds I dialed in -21.

I really like that image.

bill



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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[ann sanfedele]

yes it did.. :-)  I think you could lighten the whole thing up a bit 
though..


peaked at the next photo.. same thing going on on my street.. that is it 
looks like sink hole or water pipe problem..


ann

On 2/28/2023 3:50 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Sunlight came through our living room window at just the right time.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-F8Mft6Q/A

(K-5, DA 17-70)

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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Rick Womer]

Thanks, Bill.  

The odd thing is that I did a series of adjustments to the dng file, increasing 
contrast and saturation and brightening the flowers. When I converted the dngs 
to jpgs, the changes were there but subtle. Usually the jpg is much closer to 
the final dng.

Methinks I will try again, abandoning any subtlety.

Rick

> On Feb 28, 2023, at 5:43 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 2/28/2023 2:50 PM, Rick Womer wrote:
>> Sunlight came through our living room window at just the right time.
>> 
>> https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-F8Mft6Q/A
>> 
>> (K-5, DA 17-70)
>> 
>> Comments always appreciated.
> That is really quite pretty.
> If I could make a suggestion, go back in and raise the reds and the whites/ 
> highlights just a little wee bit. Just to give them a bit of pop.
> I don't do this often, but I took the liberty of downloading the image. I put 
> it into Camera Raw and raised the whites/highlights just enough to have the 
> clipping warning come on, and the reds I dialed in -21.
> 
> I really like that image.
> 
> bill
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Re: PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Bill]

On 2/28/2023 2:50 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

Sunlight came through our living room window at just the right time.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-F8Mft6Q/A

(K-5, DA 17-70)

Comments always appreciated.

That is really quite pretty.
If I could make a suggestion, go back in and raise the reds and the 
whites/ highlights just a little wee bit. Just to give them a bit of pop.
I don't do this often, but I took the liberty of downloading the image. 
I put it into Camera Raw and raised the whites/highlights just enough to 
have the clipping warning come on, and the reds I dialed in -21.


I really like that image.

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PESO - Flowers' Shadow

[Rick Womer]

Sunlight came through our living room window at just the right time.

https://rickwomer.smugmug.com/2023/February-2023/Feb-miscellany/i-F8Mft6Q/A

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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[John]

On 7/19/2020 06:49:44, Bill wrote:

On Sat, 18 Jul 2020, 4:15 pm Larry Colen,  wrote:





On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Bill  wrote:

On 7/17/2020 4:17 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Four wheel disc brakes were a much later improvement.


I don't think these are your daddy's disc brakes either:



https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123457933/in/dateposted-public/


Damn this lens is amazing.


I’d love to see what it could do with the comet.



So would I. It's been overcast here every evening for the last week and a
half.





I finally saw it & got some images on my 4th try:

1. Rained out
2. Very thin cloud cover & I was looking in the wrong place
3. Rained out again
4. Scattered overcast with thin, thin clouds in between, but I finally "got a 
break".


I'm going to give it another try tonight. Chance of thunderstorms this afternoon 
& evening, but there was not a cloud in the sky when I went out earlier to walk 
the dog.


Heat index is high & I could definitely feel it. Good thing I won't have to 
carry the tripod very far to set it up; about a thousand feet.




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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

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On Sat, 18 Jul 2020, 4:15 pm Larry Colen,  wrote:

>
>
> > On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Bill  wrote:
> >
> > On 7/17/2020 4:17 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
> >> Four wheel disc brakes were a much later improvement.
> >
> > I don't think these are your daddy's disc brakes either:
> >
> >
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123457933/in/dateposted-public/
> >
> > Damn this lens is amazing.
>
> I’d love to see what it could do with the comet.
>

So would I. It's been overcast here every evening for the last week and a
half.

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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

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> On Jul 17, 2020, at 3:47 PM, Bill  wrote:
> 
> On 7/17/2020 4:17 PM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> Four wheel disc brakes were a much later improvement.
> 
> I don't think these are your daddy's disc brakes either:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123457933/in/dateposted-public/
> 
> Damn this lens is amazing.

I’d love to see what it could do with the comet.  



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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[Ken Waller]

Four wheel disc brakes were a much later improvement.


-Original Message-
>From: John 
>Subject: Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile
>
>On 7/17/2020 13:29:51, Bill wrote:
>> A few from this morning, shot with the D FA* 85/1.4.
>> I am deriving much pleasure of ownership with this lens.
>> I also discovered Flickr, if this gives people viewing problems, please tell 
>> me.
>> 
>> Enjoy:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123394402/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> A detail of the above:
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123138221/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> And the automobile.
>> I have no idea what it is. Hello Paul?
>> 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123213561/in/dateposted-public/
>> 
>> bill
>> 
>
>Looks like a hot-rodded Studebaker. Maybe a '53 - '55 Commander Coupe.
>
>The tail-lights look slightly wrong, and I don't think Studebaker had 4-wheel 
>disk brakes at that time.
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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[Ken Waller]

The car is an early 50s (52-53 ?) Studebaker.


-Original Message-
>From: Bill 
>Sent: Jul 17, 2020 1:29 PM
>Subject: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile
>
>A few from this morning, shot with the D FA* 85/1.4.
>I am deriving much pleasure of ownership with this lens.
>I also discovered Flickr, if this gives people viewing problems, please 
>tell me.
>
>Enjoy:
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123394402/in/dateposted-public/
>
>A detail of the above:
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123138221/in/dateposted-public/
>
>And the automobile.
>I have no idea what it is. Hello Paul?
>
>https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123213561/in/dateposted-public/
>
>bill


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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[Bill]

On 7/17/2020 4:17 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

Four wheel disc brakes were a much later improvement.


I don't think these are your daddy's disc brakes either:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123457933/in/dateposted-public/

Damn this lens is amazing.

bill




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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[John]

On 7/17/2020 13:29:51, Bill wrote:

A few from this morning, shot with the D FA* 85/1.4.
I am deriving much pleasure of ownership with this lens.
I also discovered Flickr, if this gives people viewing problems, please tell me.

Enjoy:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123394402/in/dateposted-public/

A detail of the above:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123138221/in/dateposted-public/

And the automobile.
I have no idea what it is. Hello Paul?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123213561/in/dateposted-public/

bill



Looks like a hot-rodded Studebaker. Maybe a '53 - '55 Commander Coupe.

The tail-lights look slightly wrong, and I don't think Studebaker had 4-wheel 
disk brakes at that time.


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Re: Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Nice composition and attractive colors.

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On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 1:30 PM Bill  wrote:

> A few from this morning, shot with the D FA* 85/1.4.
> I am deriving much pleasure of ownership with this lens.
> I also discovered Flickr, if this gives people viewing problems, please
> tell me.
>
> Enjoy:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123394402/in/dateposted-public/
>
> A detail of the above:
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123138221/in/dateposted-public/
>
> And the automobile.
> I have no idea what it is. Hello Paul?
>
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123213561/in/dateposted-public/
>
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Peso: Flowers and an Automobile

[Bill]

A few from this morning, shot with the D FA* 85/1.4.
I am deriving much pleasure of ownership with this lens.
I also discovered Flickr, if this gives people viewing problems, please 
tell me.


Enjoy:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123394402/in/dateposted-public/

A detail of the above:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123138221/in/dateposted-public/

And the automobile.
I have no idea what it is. Hello Paul?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/11819824@N03/50123213561/in/dateposted-public/

bill

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Re: Peso - Flowers

[patrick nelson]

Rick

Thanks for the comments.  I also dislike the Morning Glory plants and 
remove when I can. I have tried with the sliders in light room but I 
need to experiment more as I am still not happy with the results.


Patrick

On 4/16/2020 1:20 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

Patrick,

I particularly like the morning glory pic—very nice use of lighting, DOF, and 
color. I hate morning glory plants, though, because once they get into a garden 
they’re almost impossible to get rid of.

If you’re shooting RAW, and using Lightroom, I’ve played with the Saturation 
slider in HSL to tame red and yellow flowers.

Rick


On Apr 12, 2020, at 12:23 PM, patrick nelson  wrote:

Hello All

Trying to keep amused under lockdown

Geranium Bud

https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcrx

Morning Glory

https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcuo

Both taken with Ks-2 and Pentax A 100 F4 Macro with extension tubes

I need to look into focus stacking and the Geranium tends to blow out the reds.

Comments welcome


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Re: Peso - Flowers

[Rick Womer]

Patrick,

I particularly like the morning glory pic—very nice use of lighting, DOF, and 
color. I hate morning glory plants, though, because once they get into a garden 
they’re almost impossible to get rid of.

If you’re shooting RAW, and using Lightroom, I’ve played with the Saturation 
slider in HSL to tame red and yellow flowers.

Rick

> On Apr 12, 2020, at 12:23 PM, patrick nelson  wrote:
> 
> Hello All
> 
> Trying to keep amused under lockdown
> 
> Geranium Bud
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcrx
> 
> Morning Glory
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcuo
> 
> Both taken with Ks-2 and Pentax A 100 F4 Macro with extension tubes
> 
> I need to look into focus stacking and the Geranium tends to blow out the 
> reds.
> 
> Comments welcome
> 
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Re: Peso - Flowers

[Steve Cottrell]

On 12/4/20, patrick nelson, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Geranium Bud
>
>https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcrx

Love that mate! Really nice job

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Peso - Flowers

[patrick nelson]

Hello All

Trying to keep amused under lockdown

Geranium Bud

https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcrx

Morning Glory

https://flic.kr/p/2iPBcuo

Both taken with Ks-2 and Pentax A 100 F4 Macro with extension tubes

I need to look into focus stacking and the Geranium tends to blow out 
the reds.


Comments welcome


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Re: PESO - Flowers

[Ken Waller]

Very nice. I like the simplicity and color palette.


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>
>Geraniums...
>
>https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/geranium-flowers/#jp-carousel-2627
>
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>Bulent
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Re: PESO - Flowers

[Larry Colen]

Bulent Celasun wrote:

Geraniums...

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/geranium-flowers/#jp-carousel-2627



Very nice



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Re: PESO - Flowers

[ann sanfedele]

Hi, Bulent
I jsut posted a comment directly to your page - I said 'Lovely shot" and 
after I did and entered my name and all that required stuff I got the 
message
"Your comment is in moderation"  I didn't think it ws that moderate... I 
thought I gave it a 10 :-)


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On 2/4/2017 3:20 PM, Bulent Celasun wrote:

Geraniums...

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/geranium-flowers/#jp-carousel-2627


Bulent

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PESO - Flowers

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Geraniums...

https://celasun.wordpress.com/2017/02/02/geranium-flowers/#jp-carousel-2627


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Re: Peso flowers

[Donald Guthrie]

Always a beautiful flower and dependable bloomer. I particularly like 
the second one.


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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:03:23 -0400
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Our Asiatic lilies are all in full bloom.

Here are two of them

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051772

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051773

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Re: Peso flowers

[Jack Davis]

Glorious color, David!

J

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Subject: Peso flowers

Our Asiatic lilies are all in full bloom.

Here are two of them

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051772

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051773

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Re: Peso flowers

[Paul Stenquist]

Nice compositions, beautiful blooms!

Paul via phone

> On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:03 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> 
> Our Asiatic lilies are all in full bloom.
> 
> Here are two of them
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051772
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051773
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[David J Brooks]

Our Asiatic lilies are all in full bloom.

Here are two of them

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http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=18051773

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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Frank focused?  

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 11:32 AM, Walt  wrote:
> Just great, Frank! You nailed the focus like nobody's business.
>
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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

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Just great, Frank! You nailed the focus like nobody's business.

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On 5/28/2013 7:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

I don't think I ever showed this one; forgive me if I did.

Sometimes bike messengers are asked to carry items that won't fit in the 
messenger bag. Of course we aren't ~supposed~ to ride with one hand on the 
bars, or on the sidewalk, or buzz pedestrians...

  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flowers-by-bike.html?m=1

Chris here is one of the fastest in the city but sometimes speed isn't possible.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

[Christine Aguila]

Excellent Frank.  I tried some panning the other day and had you in mind, but 
sorry to say my results were not as nice as yours.  This is really great--the 
cyclist just pops out of the frame and all the rest is a blur.  Lovely work.  
Cheers, Christine



On May 29, 2013, at 7:44 AM, Stan Halpin  wrote:

> Very nice Frank! The sharp focus plus panning the shot really make the rider 
> stand out as the clear focus of the image. 
> 
> stan
> 
> On May 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
>> I don't think I ever showed this one; forgive me if I did.
>> 
>> Sometimes bike messengers are asked to carry items that won't fit in the 
>> messenger bag. Of course we aren't ~supposed~ to ride with one hand on the 
>> bars, or on the sidewalk, or buzz pedestrians...
>> 
>> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flowers-by-bike.html?m=1
>> 
>> Chris here is one of the fastest in the city but sometimes speed isn't 
>> possible.
>> 
>> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> frank 
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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Excellent, Frank!  I love the way only the messenger and the flowers
are in focus.  The fact that the woman seems to be looking at the
flowers adds a lot as well, IMO.

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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

[Jack Davis]

Panning and shutter speed together make this an exceptional shot.
Just great, Frank!

Jack

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Very nice Frank! The sharp focus plus panning the shot really make the rider 
stand out as the clear focus of the image. 

stan

On May 28, 2013, at 8:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> I don't think I ever showed this one; forgive me if I did.
> 
> Sometimes bike messengers are asked to carry items that won't fit in the 
> messenger bag. Of course we aren't ~supposed~ to ride with one hand on the 
> bars, or on the sidewalk, or buzz pedestrians...
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flowers-by-bike.html?m=1
> 
> Chris here is one of the fastest in the city but sometimes speed isn't 
> possible.
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

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Very nice Frank! The sharp focus plus panning the shot really make the rider 
stand out as the clear focus of the image. 

stan

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> I don't think I ever showed this one; forgive me if I did.
> 
> Sometimes bike messengers are asked to carry items that won't fit in the 
> messenger bag. Of course we aren't ~supposed~ to ride with one hand on the 
> bars, or on the sidewalk, or buzz pedestrians...
> 
> http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flowers-by-bike.html?m=1
> 
> Chris here is one of the fastest in the city but sometimes speed isn't 
> possible.
> 
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: PESO - Flowers by Bike (messenger content)

[Bruce Walker]

That really grabs me, Frank. I just love how much the messenger and
bike are well defined and standing out while all else is blurred. It's
the rider's POV. Wonderful.

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>
> Sometimes bike messengers are asked to carry items that won't fit in the 
> messenger bag. Of course we aren't ~supposed~ to ride with one hand on the 
> bars, or on the sidewalk, or buzz pedestrians...
>
>  http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flowers-by-bike.html?m=1
>
> Chris here is one of the fastest in the city but sometimes speed isn't 
> possible.
>
> Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.
>
> Cheers,
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I don't think I ever showed this one; forgive me if I did.

Sometimes bike messengers are asked to carry items that won't fit in the 
messenger bag. Of course we aren't ~supposed~ to ride with one hand on the 
bars, or on the sidewalk, or buzz pedestrians...

 http://knarfdummyblog.blogspot.ca/2013/02/flowers-by-bike.html?m=1

Chris here is one of the fastest in the city but sometimes speed isn't possible.

Hope you enjoy. Comments welcome.

Cheers,
frank 

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Re: PESO: Flowers at Scott Base

[David J Brooks]

Ah, the redconeious bunchious.

Dave

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> I grabbed this photo off Facebook.  It's not my photo, and probably wasn't 
> taken with a Pentax either.  But I found it interesting.
>
> The Flowers in Cones tribute I mentioned the other day seems to have made it 
> all the way to Scott Base in Antarctica.  I found out that the idea 
> originally came from a local cartoonist called Henry Sunderland.
>
> http://www.multi.net.nz/feb-22-anniversary/scott-base.html
>
> Maybe some day I might go down there myself :)
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
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PESO: Flowers at Scott Base

[David Mann]

I grabbed this photo off Facebook.  It's not my photo, and probably wasn't 
taken with a Pentax either.  But I found it interesting.

The Flowers in Cones tribute I mentioned the other day seems to have made it 
all the way to Scott Base in Antarctica.  I found out that the idea originally 
came from a local cartoonist called Henry Sunderland.

http://www.multi.net.nz/feb-22-anniversary/scott-base.html

Maybe some day I might go down there myself :)

Cheers,
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Re: Peso, flowers part II

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On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
> Orchids for sure, but not enough for me to identify.
> The bird of paradise shot was great, this orchid only so so.
> Problem is no way to isolate the individual flower.

I have scissors.

Dave
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 9:35 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
>> This group of flowers was at the stems of the bird of paradise flowers
>> from last weekend. Orchids of some sort.??
>>
>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15030774
>>
>> D200, 18-70.
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Re: Peso, flowers part II

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Dave,
Orchids for sure, but not enough for me to identify.
The bird of paradise shot was great, this orchid only so so.
Problem is no way to isolate the individual flower.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>
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This group of flowers was at the stems of the bird of paradise flowers
from last weekend. Orchids of some sort.??

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15030774

D200, 18-70.

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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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On Jun 5, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:

> I looked at the others, too.  I think you picked the best.

Thanks.  It was a challenging composition as the bench was fairly tight between 
a not as pretty doorway and some less than attractive objects on the other 
side.  If I used a short enough focal length to make the flowers large and 
still show the bench, it was hard to crop out the things I didn't want in the 
photo. If I used a longer focal length, then in order to include the whole 
bench, the flowers were a lot smaller than I wanted.

I suppose I could have moved the table and flowers closer to the bench and 
house.


> 
> -p
> 
> On 6/5/2011 11:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>> 
>> On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
>> 
>>> Yep the color combination is attractive - the composition not so much.
>> 
>> Thanks for the feedback.  Do you have any suggestions?
>> I tried quite a few angles, and this was the one I liked the best.
>> 
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>>> - Original Message - From: "Larry Colen"
>>> Subject: peso flowers, table and bench
>>> 
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>>>> colors:
>>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5798980061
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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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I looked at the others, too.  I think you picked the best.

-p

On 6/5/2011 11:53 AM, Larry Colen wrote:


On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Ken Waller wrote:


Yep the color combination is attractive - the composition not so much.


Thanks for the feedback.  Do you have any suggestions?
I tried quite a few angles, and this was the one I liked the best.




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- Original Message - From: "Larry Colen"
Subject: peso flowers, table and bench



I was at a friend's birthday party today, and liked this combination of colors:
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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Colen" 

Subject: Re: peso flowers, table and bench




On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Ken Waller wrote:


Yep the color combination is attractive - the composition not so much.


Thanks for the feedback.  Do you have any suggestions?


Larry, two things jumped out at me on first viewing
- either give the bottom edge room below the bottom of the flower & pot or 
cut more away from the flower & pot to give the image a more finished look
-also I'd have moved the POV a little to the right to eliminate the partial 
view of the plant on that side and include more of the LH arm on the bench.


IMO both of these suggestions would makes the image appear to be less of a 
snapshot & more of a planned shot.



I tried quite a few angles, and this was the one I liked the best.




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- Original Message - From: "Larry Colen" 
Subject: peso flowers, table and bench


I was at a friend's birthday party today, and liked this combination of 
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5798980061

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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Yep the color combination is attractive - the composition not so much.

Thanks for the feedback.  Do you have any suggestions? 
I tried quite a few angles, and this was the one I liked the best.


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> Subject: peso flowers, table and bench
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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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On Jun 5, 2011, at 6:05 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> Wow!  Those are striking colors indeed, and the image has a very
> seasonal feel to it.  Well done.
> 
> Dan

Thanks Dan, also Dave and Tim, and anyone else who looked.


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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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Yep the color combination is attractive - the composition not so much.

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Subject: peso flowers, table and bench


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http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/5798980061

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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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Brought an early-morning smile to my face. Thanks!  -T

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> Nice arrangement and colours
>
> Dave
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> On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:19 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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Nice arrangement and colours

Dave

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Re: peso flowers, table and bench

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Wow!  Those are striking colors indeed, and the image has a very
seasonal feel to it.  Well done.

Dan

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Re: OT PESO - Flowers

[Christine Aguila]

Wow, the body art is very pretty--colors lovely.  I like the light you've 
used here too, Dave.  Not sure about the head tilt though--something about 
the angle of the model's head doesn't seem to work with the complete 
composition and it's cropped a bit tight at the top.  Still, very nice work 
here. The pose of the body does a great job of featuring the art.  Must have 
been an interesting shoot.  Cheers, Christine



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G'day All,

Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:

*WARNING*

(possibly) NSFW

*/WARNING*

<http://www.amnet.net.au/~savage/Misc/Images/D700/Flowers.jpg>

D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
honeycomb grid above & to the left.

Enjoy,

Cheers,

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Re: OT PESO - Flowers

[David J Brooks]

Great job.

Dave

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> G'day All,
>
> Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:
>
> *WARNING*
>
> (possibly) NSFW
>
> */WARNING*
>
> 
>
> D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
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> Enjoy,
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> Cheers,
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Re: OT PESO - Flowers

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Thats good.

DS

On 29 May 2011 02:15, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> enjoying...
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:21 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:
>>
>> *WARNING*
>>
>> (possibly) NSFW
>>
>> */WARNING*
>>
>> 
>>
>> D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
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>>
>> Enjoy,
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: OT PESO - Flowers

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If I had done that all you would have seen was goose flesh.

The poor dear was s cold.

DS

On 29 May 2011 04:20, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> It's good, Dave, but you need to use the macro . . .
>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 2:15 PM, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
>> enjoying...
>>
>> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:21 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:
>>>
>>> *WARNING*
>>>
>>> (possibly) NSFW
>>>
>>> */WARNING*
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
>>> honeycomb grid above & to the left.
>>>
>>> Enjoy,
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Dave

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Re: OT PESO - Flowers

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It's good, Dave, but you need to use the macro . . .

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>
> On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 10:21 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:
>>
>> *WARNING*
>>
>> (possibly) NSFW
>>
>> */WARNING*
>>
>> 
>>
>> D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
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>> Enjoy,
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Re: OT PESO - Flowers

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enjoying...

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> Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:
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> *WARNING*
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> (possibly) NSFW
>
> */WARNING*
>
> 
>
> D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
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[David Savage]

G'day All,

Here is a pic from a shoot I took part in today:

*WARNING*

(possibly) NSFW

*/WARNING*



D700, AF-D 85mm f1.4, 1/125 @ f6.3, ISO 100. 50cm Beauty dish with
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Cheers,

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Re: PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty

[Luiz Felipe]

A sad story, very good pic. The degree of damage is probably too much to 
repair - yet another boat lost.


LF

Rick Womer escreveu:

Along the canal that runs between Jericho and the Thames:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770499&size=lg

Rick


  


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Re: PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty

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In a message dated 3/18/2009 2:17:54 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
rwomer1...@yahoo.com writes:
Along the canal that runs  between Jericho and the  Thames:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770499&size=lg

Rick

==
Interesting  shot, Rick. Sorry flowers still don't make it pretty. :-) Does 
make one wonder  if someone on the boat planted them. Good eye, good capture.

Marnie aka  Doe :-)

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Re: PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty

[David J Brooks]

Good shot. Nice angle, again on this one

Dave

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> Along the canal that runs between Jericho and the Thames:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770499&size=lg
>
> Rick
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Re: PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty

[Jack Davis]

Really well seen, Rick. Composition right on!

Jack


--- On Wed, 3/18/09, Rick Womer  wrote:

> From: Rick Womer 
> Subject: PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty
> To: pdml@pdml.net
> Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 2:17 PM
> Along the canal that runs between Jericho and the Thames:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770499&size=lg
> 
> Rick
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Re: PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty

[frank theriault]

On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:17 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
>
> Along the canal that runs between Jericho and the Thames:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770499&size=lg

Nice shot, Rick.  Interesting juxtaposition between daffodils and derelict boat.

cheers,
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PESO - Flowers Make It Pretty

[Rick Womer]

Along the canal that runs between Jericho and the Thames:

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=8770499&size=lg

Rick


  

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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[Allison Trueman]

I agree with you that the flowers get lost in monochrome, but given  
the "old world" feel of the grocer (as opposed to the supermarket) the  
b&w works for me too.

Still, after looking again, I like the color better. I just focused on  
that wonderful rainbow of peppers...

Allison


On May 1, 2008, at 8:42 AM, frank theriault wrote:

> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
>
> Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
>
> I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's more
> obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
> in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
> to a preference.
>
> cheers,
> frank
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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[frank theriault]

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  I'll say I like the B&W one better because everyone else like the color one.

I'd expect that from you.

;-)

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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[Christian]

frank theriault wrote:
> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
> 
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
> 
> Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
> 
> I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's more
> obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
> in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
> to a preference.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 

I'll say I like the B&W one better because everyone else like the color one.

Christian

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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[P. J. Alling]

I think the color version makes the stronger statement in this case.  
However you could probably make something interesting using selective 
color or higher contrast in the flowers as well.

frank theriault wrote:
> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
>
> Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
>
> I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's more
> obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
> in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
> to a preference.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
>   


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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[David J Brooks]

Have to agree on colour for this one Frank.

The shot, needs that punch, the B&W does not have.

Nice framing to.

Dave

On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 8:42 AM, frank theriault
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
>
>  
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
>
>  Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
>
>  http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
>
>  
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
>
>  I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's more
>  obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
>  in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
>  to a preference.
>
>  cheers,
>  frank
>
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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[Paul Stenquist]

Definitely color. And a nice composition. Good use of those  
foreground elements.
Paul
On May 1, 2008, at 9:53 AM, Christine Aguila wrote:
> Hi Frank:  I prefer, as you do, the color version "by a fair  
> extent."  Nice
> one.  Cheers, Christine
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:42 AM
> Subject: PESO - Flowers for the Missus
>
>
>> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
>>
>> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/ 
>> 4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
>>
>> Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
>>
>> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/ 
>> UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
>>
>> I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's  
>> more
>> obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
>> in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
>> to a preference.
>>
>> cheers,
>> frank
>>
>> -- 
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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[Jack Davis]

I absolutely agree with your preference for the color version.
If it were my PS treatment, I'd want to see a more natural color tone on the 
predominate red and orange bell peppers in the foreground. Very small nit, I 
know, but it divulges some color interpolation..on my monitor.
A terrific moment!

Jack


--- On Thu, 5/1/08, frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: frank theriault <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO - Flowers for the Missus
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, May 1, 2008, 5:42 AM
> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
> 
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
> 
> Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
> 
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
> 
> I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly
> because it's more
> obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get
> lost somewhat
> in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear
> anyone's opinion as
> to a preference.
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> -- 
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> Cartier-Bresson
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Re: PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[Christine Aguila]

Hi Frank:  I prefer, as you do, the color version "by a fair extent."  Nice 
one.  Cheers, Christine


- Original Message - 
From: "frank theriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:42 AM
Subject: PESO - Flowers for the Missus


> Decisions, decisions, decisions:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff
>
> http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg
>
> Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9
>
> http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg
>
> I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's more
> obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
> in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
> to a preference.
>
> cheers,
> frank
>
> -- 
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PESO - Flowers for the Missus

[frank theriault]

Decisions, decisions, decisions:

http://tinyurl.com/4te3ff

http://bp0.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2OBD9QXI/B8E/4CP0vvuoymo/s1600-h/may_01_08+002.jpg

Okay, so I have to admit, I tried a B&W conversion:

http://tinyurl.com/4vdov9

http://bp2.blogger.com/_EaTEtfR4WJw/SBm2dhD9QYI/B8M/UouBlioEDnQ/s1600-h/may_01_08+003.jpg

I prefer the colour version by a fair extent, mainly because it's more
obvious that he's looking at flowers (which seem to get lost somewhat
in monochrome), however I'd be interested to hear anyone's opinion as
to a preference.

cheers,
frank

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Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Herb Chong]

same reason why i got my Nikon 4000ED. i knew how many slides i had to scan 
and i knew that good quality scans were going to cost me between $5 and $10 
each in quantity. even at $1 each, i would have broke even.


Herb
- Original Message - 
From: "Kenneth Waller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended


Bob, for me the numbers (as in $) were against continued usage of the 
Photo CD. when I stopped, I had already spent the cost of a decent scanner 
on the Photo CDs. I popped for a Nikon Super Coolscan IV scanner and am 
not looking back. While it is taking more of my time to scan, I find I'm 
more selective in what I'm scanning and while its scanning, I'm doing 
something else. Plus with bigger files I can print bigger sizes.

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Bob Sullivan"

Subject: Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended



Ken & Shel,

I have 3 or 400 scanned slides on Kodak CD's.
This is the first batch to turn out so poorly.
I'm looking for somewhere else to take my business.


Bob, I presume that you have never managed to make a mistake in your life?
Take the job back to the lab, explain what is wrong and ask them to correct 
it.
I don't understand the drop it and run mentality that people have with 
regards to their labs. If they have done a good enough job in the past, they 
deserve the opportunity to correct their error.


William Robb 

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Kenneth Waller]

Bob, for me the numbers (as in $) were against continued usage of the Photo CD. 
when I stopped, I had already spent the cost of a decent scanner on the Photo 
CDs. I popped for a Nikon Super Coolscan IV scanner and am not looking back. 
While it is taking more of my time to scan, I find I'm more selective in what 
I'm scanning and while its scanning, I'm doing something else. Plus with bigger 
files I can print bigger sizes.

-Original Message-
From: Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

Ken & Shel,

I have 3 or 400 scanned slides on Kodak CD's.
This is the first batch to turn out so poorly.
I'm looking for somewhere else to take my business.

I would think about doing it myself, but like I said before,
I don't need any more time sitting in front of the computer screen.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/31/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
> at all.
> 
> I suspect, Photo CD's are like any other photographic process done 
> commercially - If you find a good processor, that takes the time and wants to 
> do a good job, stick with them.
> I never received Photo CD scans that were bad enough to warrant rescanning, 
> but if I had I would have gone back to the processor and demanded a rescan. 
> By accepting poor quality scans (like anything else), you're just supporting 
> poor quality.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended
> 
> A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
> at all.  If you've got a lot of slides or film to scan, you'd be ahead of
> the game economically to get a good film scanner, and with a little
> practice and reading of some on-line tutorials, you'll be getting better
> results in short order.
> 
> I don't recall now, but can you get a 16-bit TIFF file from a Photo CD?
> 
> Shel
> 
> "When you find yourself beginning to feel a bond between yourself and the
> people you photograph, when you laugh and cry with their laughter and
> tears, you will know you are on the right track." - Arthur Fellig
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kenneth Waller
> 
> > I was told by a local processor, several years ago, that Kodak had
> stopped supporting the scanning equipment needed to produce the Photo CD.
> Local processor was keeping it going on their own. Last time I checked,
> several years ago now, they were still offering Photo CD's.
> >
> > BTW, I have around 1000 images done by local processor on Photo CD and I
> could always improve the resulting scans somewhat by resetting white
> point/black point even tho the original slide exposures were spot on.
> > I was paying between $1.25 to $1.75 each scan.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Bob Sullivan]

Ken & Shel,

I have 3 or 400 scanned slides on Kodak CD's.
This is the first batch to turn out so poorly.
I'm looking for somewhere else to take my business.

I would think about doing it myself, but like I said before,
I don't need any more time sitting in front of the computer screen.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/31/05, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
> at all.
> 
> I suspect, Photo CD's are like any other photographic process done 
> commercially - If you find a good processor, that takes the time and wants to 
> do a good job, stick with them.
> I never received Photo CD scans that were bad enough to warrant rescanning, 
> but if I had I would have gone back to the processor and demanded a rescan. 
> By accepting poor quality scans (like anything else), you're just supporting 
> poor quality.
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended
> 
> A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
> at all.  If you've got a lot of slides or film to scan, you'd be ahead of
> the game economically to get a good film scanner, and with a little
> practice and reading of some on-line tutorials, you'll be getting better
> results in short order.
> 
> I don't recall now, but can you get a 16-bit TIFF file from a Photo CD?
> 
> Shel
> 
> "When you find yourself beginning to feel a bond between yourself and the
> people you photograph, when you laugh and cry with their laughter and
> tears, you will know you are on the right track." - Arthur Fellig
> 
> 
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Kenneth Waller
> 
> > I was told by a local processor, several years ago, that Kodak had
> stopped supporting the scanning equipment needed to produce the Photo CD.
> Local processor was keeping it going on their own. Last time I checked,
> several years ago now, they were still offering Photo CD's.
> >
> > BTW, I have around 1000 images done by local processor on Photo CD and I
> could always improve the resulting scans somewhat by resetting white
> point/black point even tho the original slide exposures were spot on.
> > I was paying between $1.25 to $1.75 each scan.
> >
> > Kenneth Waller
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> http://www.peoplepc.com
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RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Kenneth Waller]

>A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
at all.

I suspect, Photo CD's are like any other photographic process done commercially 
- If you find a good processor, that takes the time and wants to do a good job, 
stick with them.
I never received Photo CD scans that were bad enough to warrant rescanning, but 
if I had I would have gone back to the processor and demanded a rescan. By 
accepting poor quality scans (like anything else), you're just supporting poor 
quality.

-Original Message-
From: Shel Belinkoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
at all.  If you've got a lot of slides or film to scan, you'd be ahead of
the game economically to get a good film scanner, and with a little
practice and reading of some on-line tutorials, you'll be getting better
results in short order.

I don't recall now, but can you get a 16-bit TIFF file from a Photo CD?

Shel 

"When you find yourself beginning to feel a bond between yourself and the
people you photograph, when you laugh and cry with their laughter and
tears, you will know you are on the right track." - Arthur Fellig


> [Original Message]
> From: Kenneth Waller 

> I was told by a local processor, several years ago, that Kodak had
stopped supporting the scanning equipment needed to produce the Photo CD.
Local processor was keeping it going on their own. Last time I checked,
several years ago now, they were still offering Photo CD's.
>
> BTW, I have around 1000 images done by local processor on Photo CD and I
could always improve the resulting scans somewhat by resetting white
point/black point even tho the original slide exposures were spot on.
> I was paying between $1.25 to $1.75 each scan.
>
> Kenneth Waller





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RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Shel Belinkoff]

A friend showed me several discs of Photo CD scans and I was not impressed
at all.  If you've got a lot of slides or film to scan, you'd be ahead of
the game economically to get a good film scanner, and with a little
practice and reading of some on-line tutorials, you'll be getting better
results in short order.

I don't recall now, but can you get a 16-bit TIFF file from a Photo CD?

Shel 

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people you photograph, when you laugh and cry with their laughter and
tears, you will know you are on the right track." - Arthur Fellig


> [Original Message]
> From: Kenneth Waller 

> I was told by a local processor, several years ago, that Kodak had
stopped supporting the scanning equipment needed to produce the Photo CD.
Local processor was keeping it going on their own. Last time I checked,
several years ago now, they were still offering Photo CD's.
>
> BTW, I have around 1000 images done by local processor on Photo CD and I
could always improve the resulting scans somewhat by resetting white
point/black point even tho the original slide exposures were spot on.
> I was paying between $1.25 to $1.75 each scan.
>
> Kenneth Waller

RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Kenneth Waller]

I was told by a local processor, several years ago, that Kodak had stopped 
supporting the scanning equipment needed to produce the Photo CD. Local 
processor was keeping it going on their own. Last time I checked, several years 
ago now, they were still offering Photo CD's.

BTW, I have around 1000 images done by local processor on Photo CD and I could 
always improve the resulting scans somewhat by resetting white point/black 
point even tho the original slide exposures were spot on.
I was paying between $1.25 to $1.75 each scan.

Kenneth Waller

-Original Message-
From: Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

Hi Bob
I did not know that you can still order Kodak CD's. That are the ones with
the different high resolution scans on it, right?
Here in Switzerland you can only order a low resolution JPG Picture CD which
is unusable for my needs. I would love to have the
Kodak CD instead of scanning. It would be some kind of additional free
backup too, I just added backup hard disks yesterday.

I think that Kodak charged to much royalties, so that format never got
accepted and the big warehouses sadly stopped soon
offering it :-(

greetings
Markus




>>
>>Markus,
>>
>>The sad part of these scans being too dark is that I sent them out for
>>a professional scan to a Kodak CD.  I paid about $1.75 each to have 50
>>slides put to a CD.  I was underwhelmed by what Helix did for me here
>>in Chicago.  Next time I'm going elsewhere.  Perhaps somebody on the
>>pdml can recommend a good service.
>
>>





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RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Markus Maurer]

Hi Bob
I did not know that you can still order Kodak CD's. That are the ones with
the different high resolution scans on it, right?
Here in Switzerland you can only order a low resolution JPG Picture CD which
is unusable for my needs. I would love to have the
Kodak CD instead of scanning. It would be some kind of additional free
backup too, I just added backup hard disks yesterday.

I think that Kodak charged to much royalties, so that format never got
accepted and the big warehouses sadly stopped soon
offering it :-(

greetings
Markus




>>
>>Markus,
>>
>>The sad part of these scans being too dark is that I sent them out for
>>a professional scan to a Kodak CD.  I paid about $1.75 each to have 50
>>slides put to a CD.  I was underwhelmed by what Helix did for me here
>>in Chicago.  Next time I'm going elsewhere.  Perhaps somebody on the
>>pdml can recommend a good service.
>
>>

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Bob Sullivan]

Markus,

The sad part of these scans being too dark is that I sent them out for
a professional scan to a Kodak CD.  I paid about $1.75 each to have 50
slides put to a CD.  I was underwhelmed by what Helix did for me here
in Chicago.  Next time I'm going elsewhere.  Perhaps somebody on the
pdml can recommend a good service.

I agree that a good scanner is expensive.  The cost plus the time
involved in physically doing the scans have kept me from buying one. 
I don't want to do the post processing but have been disappointed by
this last batch of slides.  I spent serious time with PSP7.0 in
lightening the results.

The post processing idea is what is keeping me away from digital.  I
don't want more hours in front of a computer screen processing RAW
images.  I was interested in what Cotty said about shooting jpegs and
just leaving it at that.  But for the time being, I'm sticking to
slide film.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/31/05, Markus Maurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Bob
> I like the second one :-)
> 
> What scanner are you using for the slides and do you like it?
> I just read some reviews and most of the cheaper film scanners seem to scan
> too dark.
> 
> 
> I'm just wondering because my scanner starts to add nasty yellow/brown lines
> along the edges of the scans
> and I wonder whether it's now the time to switch to a digital body. A new,
> well enough scanner cost about
> 50% of the Pentax DS here.
> greetings
> Markus
> 
> 
> >>http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg
> >>
> >>Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from Kodachrome 64.
> >>(Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and scan too dark.
> >>Some repairs were in order.)
> 
> 
>

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Bob Sullivan]

Frank and Boris,
Thanks for looking and the comments.
Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/31/05, Boris Liberman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > Well Frank inspired me.
> > I've had a number of slides scanned and thought to share a few.
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Ranuncula1.jpg
> > and
> > http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg
> >
> > Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from Kodachrome 64.
> > (Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and scan too dark.
> > Some repairs were in order.)
> >
> > Overcast day with light rain...Comments?
> 
> Bob, I think Frank's are more sentimental while yours are more academic...
> 
> They are good technically, but they don't inspire as much as Frank's do...
> 
> No offense, as usual, just MHO.
> 
> Boris
> 
>

RE: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Markus Maurer]

Hi Bob
I like the second one :-)

What scanner are you using for the slides and do you like it?
I just read some reviews and most of the cheaper film scanners seem to scan
too dark.


I'm just wondering because my scanner starts to add nasty yellow/brown lines
along the edges of the scans
and I wonder whether it's now the time to switch to a digital body. A new,
well enough scanner cost about
50% of the Pentax DS here.
greetings
Markus


>>http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg
>>
>>Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from Kodachrome 64.
>>(Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and scan too dark.
>>Some repairs were in order.)

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[David Mann]

On May 31, 2005, at 9:02 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:


Thanks for the comments.  You are on target with soft & etherial.  My
wife tells me the flower is a ranuncula (ra-nun-cu-la?) and you've got
the colors right.  Quite unusual colors on a 3-4 inch globe shaped
flower bud from the Illinois Botanic Gardens in Highland Park.


I think a single flower is a ranunculus - is ranuncula the plural?

We grow a few of these here every year and they come in all sorts of  
different colours.  They make great photographic subjects.


Here's one of mine:
http://www.bluemoon.net.nz/photo/printsdb/view.php?t=PAW&print_id=91

BTW I liked your photos (I especially like shallow DOF in macro  
shots) but they do look a little dark.


Cheers,

- Dave

http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!


Well Frank inspired me.
I've had a number of slides scanned and thought to share a few.

http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Ranuncula1.jpg
and
http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg

Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from Kodachrome 64.
(Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and scan too dark.
Some repairs were in order.)

Overcast day with light rain...Comments?


Bob, I think Frank's are more sentimental while yours are more academic...

They are good technically, but they don't inspire as much as Frank's do...

No offense, as usual, just MHO.

Boris

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[frank theriault]

On 5/30/05, Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well Frank inspired me.
> I've had a number of slides scanned and thought to share a few.
> 
> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Ranuncula1.jpg
> and
> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg

Like 'em both, especially the second one.  Those bright colours with
the black background really do it for me.

The first one, the colours seem a bit subdued to me, and the blossom
fills the frame so much that there's not enough of that velvety black
background that I liked so much in #2.

cheers,
frank


-- 
"Sharpness is a bourgeois concept."  -Henri Cartier-Bresson

Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Bob Sullivan]

Jack,

Thanks for the comments.  You are on target with soft & etherial.  My
wife tells me the flower is a ranuncula (ra-nun-cu-la?) and you've got
the colors right.  Quite unusual colors on a 3-4 inch globe shaped
flower bud from the Illinois Botanic Gardens in Highland Park.

Regards,  Bob S.

On 5/30/05, Jack Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Bob,
> My monitor renders the rose (?) a subtle but very
> different and odd blend of red/orange/tan/rusty/etc...
> Shallow DOF is OK with me.
> Other flower seems to made up of the same general
> color group with a bit of dark something added.
> If you were going for soft artificial ethereal hews,
> you succeeded.
> Maybe you can let me know where you were going with
> such 'unique' tones.
> I was not offended by the images and hope you're not
> offended by my remarks.
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Well Frank inspired me.
> > I've had a number of slides scanned and thought to
> > share a few.
> >
> > http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Ranuncula1.jpg
> > and
> > http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg
> >
> > Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from
> > Kodachrome 64.
> > (Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and
> > scan too dark.
> > Some repairs were in order.)
> >
> > Overcast day with light rain...Comments?
> >
> > Regards,  Bob S.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Jack Davis]

Bob,
My monitor renders the rose (?) a subtle but very
different and odd blend of red/orange/tan/rusty/etc...
Shallow DOF is OK with me.
Other flower seems to made up of the same general
color group with a bit of dark something added.
If you were going for soft artificial ethereal hews,
you succeeded.
Maybe you can let me know where you were going with
such 'unique' tones.
I was not offended by the images and hope you're not
offended by my remarks.

Jack

--- Bob Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Well Frank inspired me.
> I've had a number of slides scanned and thought to
> share a few.
> 
> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Ranuncula1.jpg
> and
> http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg
> 
> Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from
> Kodachrome 64.
> (Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and
> scan too dark.
> Some repairs were in order.)
> 
> Overcast day with light rain...Comments?
> 
> Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> 





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PESO: Flowers - don't look if offended

[Bob Sullivan]

Well Frank inspired me.
I've had a number of slides scanned and thought to share a few.

http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Ranuncula1.jpg
and
http://members.aol.com/rfsindg/Tulip3.jpg

Both with the MZ-S, A200/4 Macro, and scanned from Kodachrome 64.
(Generally, the slides are coming back too dark and scan too dark.
Some repairs were in order.)

Overcast day with light rain...Comments?

Regards,  Bob S.

RE: PESO Flowers

[Thibouille]

I mainly agree with Boris except I actually prefer the B&W one.
But I'd like better the B&W being a bit brighter as the top of the pic is
quite dark.

But I quite like it.

Thibouille
-Message d'origine-
De : Boris Liberman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : mercredi 28 juillet 2004 6:39
À : Don Sanderson
Objet : Re: PESO Flowers

Hi!

DS> Here' one I took a couple of weeks ago.
DS> It's technically pretty bad and I wasn't going to post it.
DS> But my eye keeps wandering to the print for some reason.

DS> I think maybe I like the BW version better.
DS> See what you think.

DS> http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Flower.htm

Don, the color version is a little bit better than the b/w one. Still
in my opinion both are just average. You see, there is a path that eye
follows that is made by the flowers. Path from the front bottom to the
top middle. But there is nothing except darkness at the end of that
path. And the bright flower on the left which pops out does not add
anything. So, the whole composition is confusing, at least to me.

Please don't be upset or offended as I mean no such thing.

HTH.

Boris
([EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: PESO Flowers

[Bruce Dayton]

I'm with Rob on this one.  The color version is better.  I do find it
a bit intriguing to look at.  Kind of nice, actually.

Bruce


Thursday, July 22, 2004, 7:28:17 PM, you wrote:

RS> On 22 Jul 2004 at 21:21, Don Sanderson wrote:

>> Here' one I took a couple of weeks ago.
>> It's technically pretty bad and I wasn't going to post it.
>> But my eye keeps wandering to the print for some reason.
>> 
>> I think maybe I like the BW version better.
>> See what you think.
>> 
>> http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Flower.htm

RS> I find the B&W version less attractive. How did you do your B&W conversion?
RS> Have you tried the conversion methods outlined on Shels page?

RS> http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/color2bw.html

RS> Cheers,


RS> Rob Studdert
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RS> Tel +61-2-9554-4110
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Re: PESO Flowers

[Rob Studdert]

On 22 Jul 2004 at 21:21, Don Sanderson wrote:

> Here' one I took a couple of weeks ago.
> It's technically pretty bad and I wasn't going to post it.
> But my eye keeps wandering to the print for some reason.
> 
> I think maybe I like the BW version better.
> See what you think.
> 
> http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Flower.htm

I find the B&W version less attractive. How did you do your B&W conversion? 
Have you tried the conversion methods outlined on Shels page?

http://home.earthlink.net/~scbelinkoff/color2bw.html

Cheers,


Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998

PESO Flowers

[Don Sanderson]

Here' one I took a couple of weeks ago.
It's technically pretty bad and I wasn't going to post it.
But my eye keeps wandering to the print for some reason.

I think maybe I like the BW version better.
See what you think.

http://www.donsauction.com/PDML/Flower.htm

don