Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013, Larry Colen wrote: You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html Because I know Laura, I prefer this version: http://edp.org/monkey.htm -- Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6http://rule6.info/ * * * Help a hearing-impaired person: http://rule6.info/hearing.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Jun 29, 2013, at 11:31 AM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Christine Aguila I have no idea what you guys are talking about. :-) Cheers, Christine http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/0//000/00/1/2000/500/12563/12563.strip.gif lol. indeed. Cheers, Christine -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
I have no idea what you guys are talking about. :-) Cheers, Christine On Jun 28, 2013, at 9:15 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!? After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, multiply etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a GE-teletype system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 used cassette tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs! You mean, thank you Steve Wozniak. Jobs was just in the room when it happen Uh, when it happened. At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a Radar-type person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed fore-ground/back-ground dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so that it would properly interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage the I/O data capture to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my experiments. To debug my programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code to find which registers were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun times! stan On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,... Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending it's way back to the East Coast through various servers. I don't think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school. Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a protocol analyzer in real time. It's a skill I'm glad I've lost. On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
From: Charles Robinson On Jun 28, 2013, at 16:09 , John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Larry Colen On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way I've found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC children's program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for them to come out on DVD. No Bittorrent options? None that I could get to work. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
From: Christine Aguila I have no idea what you guys are talking about. :-) Cheers, Christine http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/0//000/00/1/2000/500/12563/12563.strip.gif -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:31:52PM -0400, John Sessoms wrote: From: Christine Aguila I have no idea what you guys are talking about. :-) Cheers, Christine http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/0//000/00/1/2000/500/12563/12563.strip.gif I think she was bragging, not confused. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:05 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Charles Robinson On Jun 28, 2013, at 16:09 , John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way I've found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC children's program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for them to come out on DVD. No Bittorrent options? None that I could get to work. Have you tried Transmission? http://www.transmissionbt.com/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/trqtw/ Windows Best client I've used by far. Actually helps you debug firewall issues. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
From: Bruce Walker On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:05 PM, John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Charles Robinson On Jun 28, 2013, at 16:09 , John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way I've found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC children's program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for them to come out on DVD. No Bittorrent options? None that I could get to work. Have you tried Transmission? http://www.transmissionbt.com/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/trqtw/ Windows Best client I've used by far. Actually helps you debug firewall issues. I'll keep it in mind if I ever decide I want to try bittorrent again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
By the way one should never examine noodles too closely... On 6/28/2013 5:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:02:25PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories You had 300 baud modems? We had to implement RFC 1149: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt What is truly awesome is that some people actually did implement RFC 1149: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
Mmn, thank you, I will submit this as a new module for FreeSwitch. Using Rogers internet for Voip gives almost the same latency :-) gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:09 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:02:25PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories You had 300 baud modems? We had to implement RFC 1149: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt What is truly awesome is that some people actually did implement RFC 1149: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic
On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:08 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 03:02:25PM -0400, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories You had 300 baud modems? We had to implement RFC 1149: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt What is truly awesome is that some people actually did implement RFC 1149: http://www.blug.linux.no/rfc1149/ I was never much of a computer geek, but I did learn to write dial up and log-in threads on my Apple //c with AE Express. I started delivering digital docs to Popular Mechanics in the early eighties and spent time on some user group servers. I remember one group that was based in Jersey called Washington Apple Tree. Another was the Micronetworked Apple Users Group or MAUG. I think MAUG eventually evolved into Compuserve. Paul Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending it's way back to the East Coast through various servers. I don't think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school. Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a protocol analyzer in real time. It's a skill I'm glad I've lost. On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Larry Colen On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way I've found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC children's program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for them to come out on DVD. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 28, 2013, at 16:09 , John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: From: Larry Colen On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Believe it or not, I actually have a usenet account. It's the only way I've found to get access to recent episodes of a certain venerable BBC children's program without having to wait for the 50th anniversary for them to come out on DVD. No Bittorrent options? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - charl...@visi.com Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org http://www.facebook.com/charles.robinson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!? After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, multiply etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a GE-teletype system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 used cassette tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs! At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a Radar-type person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed fore-ground/back-ground dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so that it would properly interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage the I/O data capture to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my experiments. To debug my programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code to find which registers were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun times! stan On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,... Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending it's way back to the East Coast through various servers. I don't think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school. Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a protocol analyzer in real time. It's a skill I'm glad I've lost. On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!? After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, multiply etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a GE-teletype system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 used cassette tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs! You mean, thank you Steve Wozniak. Jobs was just in the room when it happen At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a Radar-type person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed fore-ground/back-ground dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so that it would properly interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage the I/O data capture to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my experiments. To debug my programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code to find which registers were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun times! stan On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,... Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending it's way back to the East Coast through various servers. I don't think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school. Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a protocol analyzer in real time. It's a skill I'm glad I've lost. On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit
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On Jun 28, 2013, at 10:12 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Jun 28, 2013, at 8:44 PM, Stan Halpin s...@stans-photography.info wrote: P.J. - you are are revealed as a deprived youngster! No paper tape?!? After a one-semester exposure to programming an IBM 1486 (IIRC) Accounting Machine with a big honking 15lb board that was pulled out one end so that jumper connections could be made to instruct the machine to tabulate, multiply etc., I mostly used punch cards. But I did have one year with a GE-teletype system that used paper tape. And of course the Commodore C-64 used cassette tape. Then came floppy discs. I thought I had died and gone to heaven when I started using 3 1/4 discs! Thank you Steve Jobs! You mean, thank you Steve Wozniak. Jobs was just in the room when it happen Uh, when it happened. At one point, one of the guys in our computer lab (a draftee FWIW, a Radar-type person) had written an OS for our CDC 3300 that allowed fore-ground/back-ground dual processing. He modified our Fortran compiler so that it would properly interact with his OS. I wrote Fortran code to manage the I/O data capture to/from terminals that were used by subjects in my experiments. To debug my programs, I had to interpret the core dump hex code to find which registers were in what state at the time of the crash. Fun times! stan On Jun 28, 2013, at 3:28 PM, P.J. Alling wrote: ...I don't think I ever used paper tape,... Actually I used to subscribe to USENET newsgroups at the first company I worked for that had a direct internet connection, (they also had their own trunk line from the East Coast to California, you could trace email paths from my cube in Connecticut to friends at various Universities on the East Coast, from our office server it would go to our server in California almost instantaneously, then spent the next couple of hours to a day or so wending it's way back to the East Coast through various servers. I don't think I ever used paper tape, and never saw a punch card after graduate school. Though I did work with 75 baud communications, you could read the octal on a protocol analyzer in real time. It's a skill I'm glad I've lost. On 6/28/2013 3:02 PM, Gerrit Visser wrote: Usenet, dial up modems starting at 300 baud, acoustic couplers, paper tape punching/reading at 110 baud. Ah, the memories Thank you for providing another sink hole for my time :-) Gerrit -Original Message- From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Larry Colen Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 2:43 PM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: PESO Muruga's lunch / first K-5II pic On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 02:29:42PM -0400, P.J. Alling wrote: Manual? Hell I find it more disturbing that Larry has Cow-orkers. What are orkers? That he talks to! What are orkers anyway? Sounds more like something that a pig would have not a cow... I guess you aren't old enough to remember usenet: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/C/cow-orker.html BTW, the Jargon files are a wonderfully fun timesuck. Pick a word, and start following interesting looking links in the definition: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/go01.html You can even learn about such things as scratch-monkeys: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/S/scratch-monkey.html On 6/28/2013 10:17 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: The K-5II has a manual? A MANUAL! We don't need no stinking manuals! Regards, Bob S. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 4:00 AM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: I was going to read the K-5II manual at lunch, and got chatting with my cow-orkers. They were curious about the DA35 macro, so I snapped this pic of Muruga's lunch. For sucha silly shot, I think it turned out pretty nice: http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/9158332052/ -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- There are two kinds of computer users those who've experienced a hard drive failure, and those that will. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail
