Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread Joseph Tainter
"I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all
be because of the istDs"
A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on 
Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will 
soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that 
Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what 
I think has happened:

1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford 
Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.

2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most, 
FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).

3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and 
see how few primes are now listed.

4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens 
production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax 
did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong 
demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no 
longer being produced.

5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
Joe


Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread John Forbes
Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to other  
brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 2002 and 2003,  
while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the second-hand market.

That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers have  
pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles.  I recently  
paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a K 300mm f4 which  
went for very little.

John
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all
be because of the istDs"
A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's what  
I think has happened:

1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford  
Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.

2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least most,  
FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).

3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site and  
see how few primes are now listed.

4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting lens  
production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA lines. Pentax  
did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes would be in strong  
demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly so, and they are no  
longer being produced.

5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
Joe



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Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread Peter J. Alling
The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey.
John Forbes wrote:
Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to 
other  brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 
2002 and 2003,  while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the 
second-hand market.

That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers 
have  pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles.  
I recently  paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a 
K 300mm f4 which  went for very little.

John
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

"I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all
be because of the istDs"
A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's 
what  I think has happened:

1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford  
Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.

2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least 
most,  FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).

3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site 
and  see how few primes are now listed.

4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting 
lens  production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA 
lines. Pentax  did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes 
would be in strong  demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly 
so, and they are no  longer being produced.

5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
Joe





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During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke




Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread pnstenquist
I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses seem to be up by a 
considerable amount. Yes, it's most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 
50/1.4s are going for more than B&H's new price on ebay -- $209-- and B&H is 
sold out.) If you missed the thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go 
take a look. The *istD and *istDS have revived the brand. I guess that's a good 
thing.
Paul


> The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey.
> 
> John Forbes wrote:
> 
> > Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to 
> > other  brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 
> > 2002 and 2003,  while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the 
> > second-hand market.
> >
> > That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers 
> > have  pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles.  
> > I recently  paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a 
> > K 300mm f4 which  went for very little.
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> "I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all
> >> be because of the istDs"
> >>
> >> A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
> >> Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
> >> soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
> >> Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's 
> >> what  I think has happened:
> >>
> >> 1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford  
> >> Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.
> >>
> >> 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least 
> >> most,  FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).
> >>
> >> 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site 
> >> and  see how few primes are now listed.
> >>
> >> 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting 
> >> lens  production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA 
> >> lines. Pentax  did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes 
> >> would be in strong  demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly 
> >> so, and they are no  longer being produced.
> >>
> >> 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
> >>
> >> 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
> >>
> >> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> -- 
> I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
> During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
> and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during 
> peacetime.
>   --P.J. O'Rourke
> 
> 



Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread Steve Pearson
What Leica forum are you referring to?  Do you have a
link to it?

TIA

PS:  I can't believe some of the prices on ebay
recently.  Almost makes me think about selling all of
my gear.


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses
> seem to be up by a considerable amount. Yes, it's
> most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 50/1.4s
> are going for more than B&H's new price on ebay --
> $209-- and B&H is sold out.) If you missed the
> thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go
> take a look. The *istD and *istDS have revived the
> brand. I guess that's a good thing.
> Paul
> 
> 
> > The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey.
> > 
> > John Forbes wrote:
> > 
> > > Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted
> in some defections to 
> > > other  brands, which depressed demand for Pentax
> glass between say 
> > > 2002 and 2003,  while putting quite a lot of
> used lenses onto the 
> > > second-hand market.
> > >
> > > That process has presumably slowed or reversed,
> and digital buyers 
> > > have  pushed up demand for wide-angles, though
> not for longer teles.  
> > > I recently  paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and
> just missed bidding on a 
> > > K 300mm f4 which  went for very little.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph
> Tainter  
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> "I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax
> prices lately. It can't all
> > >> be because of the istDs"
> > >>
> > >> A few months after the release of the D there
> began to be a run on  
> > >> Pentax primes. It still continues, and I
> suspect that DS owners will  
> > >> soon try to join in after they decide which
> zoom to buy. Note that  
> > >> Pentax autofocus primes have virtually
> disappeared from KEH. Here's 
> > >> what  I think has happened:
> > >>
> > >> 1. People who bought the D care about image
> quality and can afford  
> > >> Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.
> > >>
> > >> 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of
> all, or at least 
> > >> most,  FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).
> > >>
> > >> 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at
> Pentax USA's web site 
> > >> and  see how few primes are now listed.
> > >>
> > >> 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the
> middle of shifting 
> > >> lens  production to Vietnam and was planning
> the new DA and D FA 
> > >> lines. Pentax  did not anticipate that suddenly
> the old FA primes 
> > >> would be in strong  demand. Existing stocks
> have sold out, or nearly 
> > >> so, and they are no  longer being produced.
> > >>
> > >> 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
> > >>
> > >> 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
> > >>
> > >> Joe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
> > During a war you get to drive tanks through the
> sides of buildings 
> > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually
> frowned on during peacetime.
> > --P.J. O'Rourke
> > 
> > 
> 
> 


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Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread pnstenquist
The Pnoto Net Leica forum is here:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/forum?topic_id=1548

The recent Pentax digital thread is here:
http://www.photo.net/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=00B20N

Paul


> What Leica forum are you referring to?  Do you have a
> link to it?
> 
> TIA
> 
> PS:  I can't believe some of the prices on ebay
> recently.  Almost makes me think about selling all of
> my gear.
> 
> 
> --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses
> > seem to be up by a considerable amount. Yes, it's
> > most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 50/1.4s
> > are going for more than B&H's new price on ebay --
> > $209-- and B&H is sold out.) If you missed the
> > thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go
> > take a look. The *istD and *istDS have revived the
> > brand. I guess that's a good thing.
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > > The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey.
> > > 
> > > John Forbes wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted
> > in some defections to 
> > > > other  brands, which depressed demand for Pentax
> > glass between say 
> > > > 2002 and 2003,  while putting quite a lot of
> > used lenses onto the 
> > > > second-hand market.
> > > >
> > > > That process has presumably slowed or reversed,
> > and digital buyers 
> > > > have  pushed up demand for wide-angles, though
> > not for longer teles.  
> > > > I recently  paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and
> > just missed bidding on a 
> > > > K 300mm f4 which  went for very little.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph
> > Tainter  
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> "I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax
> > prices lately. It can't all
> > > >> be because of the istDs"
> > > >>
> > > >> A few months after the release of the D there
> > began to be a run on  
> > > >> Pentax primes. It still continues, and I
> > suspect that DS owners will  
> > > >> soon try to join in after they decide which
> > zoom to buy. Note that  
> > > >> Pentax autofocus primes have virtually
> > disappeared from KEH. Here's 
> > > >> what  I think has happened:
> > > >>
> > > >> 1. People who bought the D care about image
> > quality and can afford  
> > > >> Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.
> > > >>
> > > >> 2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of
> > all, or at least 
> > > >> most,  FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).
> > > >>
> > > >> 3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at
> > Pentax USA's web site 
> > > >> and  see how few primes are now listed.
> > > >>
> > > >> 4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the
> > middle of shifting 
> > > >> lens  production to Vietnam and was planning
> > the new DA and D FA 
> > > >> lines. Pentax  did not anticipate that suddenly
> > the old FA primes 
> > > >> would be in strong  demand. Existing stocks
> > have sold out, or nearly 
> > > >> so, and they are no  longer being produced.
> > > >>
> > > >> 5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
> > > >>
> > > >> 6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
> > > >>
> > > >> Joe
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
> > > During a war you get to drive tanks through the
> > sides of buildings 
> > > and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually
> > frowned on during peacetime.
> > >   --P.J. O'Rourke
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-05 Thread Derby Chang
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. 

Yes, I've noticed it too. I'm thinking about getting the 31mm ltd but, 
oh no, Adorama aren't listing it at the moment (nor the 77mm, and the 
43mm is on back order). :(

Rob, can I ask you for that contact in Japan again? Maybe they still 
have the black 31mm.

D
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Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-06 Thread Mark Roberts
Derby Chang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
>
>>A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
>>Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
>>soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
>>Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. 
>
>Yes, I've noticed it too. I'm thinking about getting the 31mm ltd but, 
>oh no, Adorama aren't listing it at the moment (nor the 77mm, and the 
>43mm is on back order). :(

I had to wait a month to get the Tamron 17-35 in Pentax mount. My rep
said they were selling out as quickly as they came in. I also had to
wait to get the Sigma P-TTL flash because everyone kept selling out.
I expect that distributors, being naturally cautions and not wanting to
get stuck with stock that wouldn't sell, were ordering Pentax-compatible
product based on past sales numbers and were unprepared for the revival
of interest spurred by the ist-D and DS.

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com



AW: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-12 Thread Michael Heim

>
>  
>
>Also, the US dollar is down considerably lately, so international 
>bidders will tend to push the prices up when things are priced in USD.

That's a good arguement. 100$ was 160 Francs for me, two years ago. Now
it's 115!

Michael



Re: Prices of Pentax Lenses

2005-02-11 Thread Scott Nelson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've noticed that the prices on all Pentax lenses seem to be up by a considerable 
amount. Yes, it's most evident among the shorter lenses (FA 50/1.4s are going for more 
than B&H's new price on ebay -- $209-- and B&H is sold out.) If you missed the 
thread about Pentax digital on the Leica forum, go take a look. The *istD and *istDS 
have revived the brand. I guess that's a good thing.
Paul
 

The M* and A* 300's are still quite pricey.
John Forbes wrote:
   

Also, the long wait for a Pentax DSLR resulted in some defections to 
other  brands, which depressed demand for Pentax glass between say 
2002 and 2003,  while putting quite a lot of used lenses onto the 
second-hand market.

That process has presumably slowed or reversed, and digital buyers 
have  pushed up demand for wide-angles, though not for longer teles.  
I recently  paid quite a lot for a 20mm, and just missed bidding on a 
K 300mm f4 which  went for very little.

John
On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:27 -0700, Joseph Tainter  
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 

"I have noticed a sudden increase in pentax prices lately. It can't all
be because of the istDs"
A few months after the release of the D there began to be a run on  
Pentax primes. It still continues, and I suspect that DS owners will  
soon try to join in after they decide which zoom to buy. Note that  
Pentax autofocus primes have virtually disappeared from KEH. Here's 
what  I think has happened:

1. People who bought the D care about image quality and can afford  
Pentax primes. They began to buy FA primes.

2. Pentax, meanwhile, had stopped production of all, or at least 
most,  FA lenses (but maybe not FAJ lenses).

3. Existing stocks began to run out. Look at Pentax USA's web site 
and  see how few primes are now listed.

4. Pentax got caught by surprise. It was in the middle of shifting 
lens  production to Vietnam and was planning the new DA and D FA 
lines. Pentax  did not anticipate that suddenly the old FA primes 
would be in strong  demand. Existing stocks have sold out, or nearly 
so, and they are no  longer being produced.

5. Nguyen is ill again this winter.
6. Ebay prices began to shoot up.
Joe

   

 

--
I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. 
During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings 
and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime.
	--P.J. O'Rourke

   


 

Also, the US dollar is down considerably lately, so international 
bidders will tend to push the prices up when things are priced in USD.