Ghm... National Assoc. of Professional Child Photographers

2018-02-21 Thread Igor PDML-StR



While thinking about photographers taking photos of school groups, I was 
curious what alternatives we have in the area, so, I googled.


One of the first websites that Google returned was for the
"National Assoc. of Professional Child Photographers".
I was a bit afraid what I might see there when I clicked on that link.
http://www.napcp.com/

Well it wasn't anything awful, and it might be a legit association 
But the very first few photos (actually composites of photos) I see on the 
website, - ghm... Only one photo in them is related to children:

http://www.napcp.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/ImageCompExamples.jpg


Yes, I understand it is about activities for the assoc. members, but ...

Maybe I am just being grumpy this morning...

Igor



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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-24 Thread Bill

On 2/22/2017 3:19 PM, mike wilson wrote:



Any other interesting system bits?



Lots. I'll send you an inventory this weekend, probably not until Sunday 
afternoon my time.



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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-22 Thread mike wilson
> On 22 February 2017 at 21:14 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/22/2017 1:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 21 February 2017 at 21:52 Bill  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >>> I just found this article.
> >>>
> >>> A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti
> >>>
> >>> https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/
> >>
> >> Nice.
> >> I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since
> >> around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of
> >> various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then
> >> put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems
> >> like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of
> >> what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first
> >> girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).
> >
> > Beg to differ.  It pretty much does what it always did, given allowance for
> > the
> > vagaries of time, plus it has bonus qualities.  As an example of how it
> > improves
> > over your first girlfriend, I'll ask how much you want for the AF-1W and
> > I'll
> > check to see which screens I am missing from my set.  I bet you didn't get
> > any
> > financial return from your other candidate in the useless stakes.
> >
> 
> Sadly, no FA-1W finder. It's about the only one I don't have.

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-22 Thread Bill

On 2/22/2017 1:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 21 February 2017 at 21:52 Bill  wrote:


On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I just found this article.

A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti

https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/


Nice.
I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since
around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of
various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then
put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems
like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of
what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first
girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).


Beg to differ.  It pretty much does what it always did, given allowance for the
vagaries of time, plus it has bonus qualities.  As an example of how it improves
over your first girlfriend, I'll ask how much you want for the AF-1W and I'll
check to see which screens I am missing from my set.  I bet you didn't get any
financial return from your other candidate in the useless stakes.



Sadly, no FA-1W finder. It's about the only one I don't have.

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-22 Thread Jostein Øksne
Way it always goes when Sauron learns of your precious.
Jostein

Den 22. februar 2017 17.11.54 CET, skrev "P. J. Alling" 
:
>I'm of two minds about articles like this.  Yes, it's nice that the 
>author reinforces my belief that my favorite film camera is best in 
>class, especially as it's the top class.  However it means that if and 
>when I decide to replace the LX I dropped not long ago, or if it's 
>repairable, (the prism is probably a total loss), or the prism after
>the 
>body is repaired, I'll have to pay a higher price than I would
>otherwise 
>for an under appreciated gem.
>
>
>On 2/21/2017 4:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
>> I just found this article.
>>
>> A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti
>>
>>
>https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> +
>> Brian Walters
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>> http://anpsa.org.au
>> https://www.facebook.com/anpsa
>>

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-22 Thread John

Buy now before prices go up.

On 2/22/2017 11:11 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I'm of two minds about articles like this.  Yes, it's nice that the
author reinforces my belief that my favorite film camera is best in
class, especially as it's the top class.  However it means that if and
when I decide to replace the LX I dropped not long ago, or if it's
repairable, (the prism is probably a total loss), or the prism after the
body is repaired, I'll have to pay a higher price than I would otherwise
for an under appreciated gem.


On 2/21/2017 4:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I just found this article.

A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti

https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/



Cheers

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-22 Thread P. J. Alling
I'm of two minds about articles like this.  Yes, it's nice that the 
author reinforces my belief that my favorite film camera is best in 
class, especially as it's the top class.  However it means that if and 
when I decide to replace the LX I dropped not long ago, or if it's 
repairable, (the prism is probably a total loss), or the prism after the 
body is repaired, I'll have to pay a higher price than I would otherwise 
for an under appreciated gem.



On 2/21/2017 4:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I just found this article.

A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti

https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-22 Thread Bill

On 2/22/2017 1:24 AM, mike wilson wrote:

On 21 February 2017 at 21:52 Bill  wrote:


On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I just found this article.

A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti

https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/


Nice.
I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since
around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of
various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then
put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems
like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of
what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first
girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).


Beg to differ.  It pretty much does what it always did, given allowance for the
vagaries of time, plus it has bonus qualities.  As an example of how it improves
over your first girlfriend, I'll ask how much you want for the AF-1W and I'll
check to see which screens I am missing from my set.  I bet you didn't get any
financial return from your other candidate in the useless stakes.



She was willing to have sex with me. That was, in it's own way, a 
financial return.
The FA-1W might be the one that I don't have. I'll check and get back to 
you after breakfast.


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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-21 Thread mike wilson
> On 21 February 2017 at 21:52 Bill  wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > I just found this article.
> >
> > A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti
> >
> > https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/
> 
> Nice.
> I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since 
> around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of 
> various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then 
> put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems 
> like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of 
> what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first 
> girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).

Beg to differ.  It pretty much does what it always did, given allowance for the
vagaries of time, plus it has bonus qualities.  As an example of how it improves
over your first girlfriend, I'll ask how much you want for the AF-1W and I'll
check to see which screens I am missing from my set.  I bet you didn't get any
financial return from your other candidate in the useless stakes.

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Re: Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-21 Thread Bill

On 2/21/2017 3:10 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

I just found this article.

A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti

https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/


Nice.
I'm in the process of moving from a storage lock-up that I've had since 
around the time I did the big home reno in 2003. Going through boxes of 
various stuff I found 3 (yes 3) LX bodies, all serviced in 2002 qnd then 
put away, the full selection of viewfinders, A Winder LX, what seems 
like an endless variety of filters, just an amazing treasure trove of 
what has become very pretty, but useless junk (kind of like my first 
girlfriend, who was also useless but very pretty).




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Pentax LX: The best professional 35mm SLR around

2017-02-21 Thread Brian Walters
I just found this article.

A bit of nostalgia for the LX cognoscenti

https://www.casualphotophile.com/2017/02/19/pentax-lx-camera-review-the-best-professional-35mm-slr-around/


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Lexar SD Card for the K-3f - Lexar SDXC Professional 1000x - 64GB

2016-01-13 Thread Jens Bladt

Thanks Christina

I just discovered, that it's only one of my two 64 GB Lexar cards, 
that's making trouble!?

And only in the JPEG compartment (Number 2).
I guess one card is faulty. I tried to send it back, but there was just 
too much paperwork involved...

I guess I'l just mark it "DNG-only"

Funny enough ther both work flawlessly in my SONY ILCE 6000.
But I got the pair for my K-3 :-(

Best Regards
Jens

Den 09-01-2016 kl. 14:32 skrev Christine Aguila:

I always use Lexar cards and have never had this problem, though I should say I 
don’t use the speed level you state below.  I’m assuming you formatted both 
cards in the K-3.   Perhaps they are damaged and you can return them.

Sorry this is not much help.
Christine



On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Jens Bladt  wrote:

I still don't know why this cards keeps giveng med error messages in my K-3:
Lexar SDXC Professional 1000x - 64GB

I works fine in my Sony ILCE 6000 - not in my Pentax'es???

Any ideas, please ??
Regards
Jens


aDen 13-12-2015 kl. 13:23 skrev Jens Bladt:

Hi guys
I just wanted to let you know:
A member of my family owns a couples of photo shops. He adviced me to
buy Lexar cards. The reason was that my SanDisk Cards often brakes.

So, I bought two Lexar Cards: Lexar Professional SD XC II s 150MB/s 64GB.

They gave me repeating error messages.
I noticed that the white slide lock is very bright and allmost transparent.
I guessed the lock is working with a light mechanism??
So, I took a permanent speed marker and painted the sliding lockers dark
blue (should perhaps have been black..).
Now I don't get error messages anymore.


Regards
Jens



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Re: Lexar SD Card for the K-3f - Lexar SDXC Professional 1000x - 64GB

2016-01-09 Thread Christine Aguila
I always use Lexar cards and have never had this problem, though I should say I 
don’t use the speed level you state below.  I’m assuming you formatted both 
cards in the K-3.   Perhaps they are damaged and you can return them.

Sorry this is not much help.
Christine


> On Jan 8, 2016, at 12:06 PM, Jens Bladt  wrote:
> 
> I still don't know why this cards keeps giveng med error messages in my K-3:  
> Lexar SDXC Professional 1000x - 64GB
> 
> I works fine in my Sony ILCE 6000 - not in my Pentax'es???
> 
> Any ideas, please ??
> Regards
> Jens
> 
> 
> aDen 13-12-2015 kl. 13:23 skrev Jens Bladt:
>> Hi guys
>> I just wanted to let you know:
>> A member of my family owns a couples of photo shops. He adviced me to
>> buy Lexar cards. The reason was that my SanDisk Cards often brakes.
>> 
>> So, I bought two Lexar Cards: Lexar Professional SD XC II s 150MB/s 64GB.
>> 
>> They gave me repeating error messages.
>> I noticed that the white slide lock is very bright and allmost transparent.
>> I guessed the lock is working with a light mechanism??
>> So, I took a permanent speed marker and painted the sliding lockers dark
>> blue (should perhaps have been black..).
>> Now I don't get error messages anymore.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> Jens
>> 
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Re: Lexar SD Card for the K-3f - Lexar SDXC Professional 1000x - 64GB

2016-01-08 Thread Jens Bladt
I still don't know why this cards keeps giveng med error messages in my 
K-3: 	Lexar SDXC Professional 1000x - 64GB


I works fine in my Sony ILCE 6000 - not in my Pentax'es???

Any ideas, please ??
Regards
Jens


aDen 13-12-2015 kl. 13:23 skrev Jens Bladt:

Hi guys
I just wanted to let you know:
A member of my family owns a couples of photo shops. He adviced me to
buy Lexar cards. The reason was that my SanDisk Cards often brakes.

So, I bought two Lexar Cards: Lexar Professional SD XC II s 150MB/s 64GB.

They gave me repeating error messages.
I noticed that the white slide lock is very bright and allmost transparent.
I guessed the lock is working with a light mechanism??
So, I took a permanent speed marker and painted the sliding lockers dark
blue (should perhaps have been black..).
Now I don't get error messages anymore.


Regards
Jens



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Re: OT: Portrait Professional 10 and Paint Engine filtering

2013-03-26 Thread Jens

Thanks Daniel and Bruce.
Regards
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On Mar 20, 2013 14:42 "Daniel J. Matyola"  wrote:
> That is an engaging portrait, Jens
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> 
> On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Jens  wrote:
> > Hi guys
> > I've been spending lots of time filtering images.
> > I've been using Topaz Simplify 4 and ImpressionFX Paint Engine
> > software.
> > And once in a while Portrait Professional 10 Studio.
> >
> > I thought you'd like to se some of my work:
> >
> > This set is from a portrait workshop I run once a month. The girl is
> > Nanna (22), the daughter of a friend of mine:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157633043684748/show/
> >
> > This set shows images currently exhibited at a local "Culture
> > Building", wher the local camera club is showing appr. 100
> > photographs:
> >
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157632924577297/show/
> >
> > Enjoy :-)
> >
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional 10 and Paint Engine filtering

2013-03-20 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is an engaging portrait, Jens
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Jens  wrote:
> Hi guys
> I've been spending lots of time filtering images.
> I've been using Topaz Simplify 4 and ImpressionFX Paint Engine software.
> And once in a while Portrait Professional 10 Studio.
>
> I thought you'd like to se some of my work:
>
> This set is from a portrait workshop I run once a month. The girl is Nanna 
> (22), the daughter of a friend of mine:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157633043684748/show/
>
> This set shows images currently exhibited at a local "Culture Building", wher 
> the local camera club is showing appr. 100 photographs:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157632924577297/show/
>
> Enjoy :-)
>
> Regards
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional 10 and Paint Engine filtering

2013-03-20 Thread Bruce Walker
A very nicely done portrait, Jens. The final three filter-processed
images are not to my liking though.

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 6:42 AM, Jens  wrote:
> Hi guys
> I've been spending lots of time filtering images.
> I've been using Topaz Simplify 4 and ImpressionFX Paint Engine software.
> And once in a while Portrait Professional 10 Studio.
>
> I thought you'd like to se some of my work:
>
> This set is from a portrait workshop I run once a month. The girl is Nanna 
> (22), the daughter of a friend of mine:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157633043684748/show/
>
> This set shows images currently exhibited at a local "Culture Building", wher 
> the local camera club is showing appr. 100 photographs:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157632924577297/show/
>
> Enjoy :-)
>
> Regards
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional 10 and Paint Engine filtering

2013-03-20 Thread Paul Stenquist
I like the way you shot her, and the original is good. I like a couple of the 
first few with minor revisions. But the final result appears way overdone and 
cartoonish to my eye.

Paul
On Mar 20, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Jens  wrote:

> Hi guys
> I've been spending lots of time filtering images.
> I've been using Topaz Simplify 4 and ImpressionFX Paint Engine software.
> And once in a while Portrait Professional 10 Studio.
> 
> I thought you'd like to se some of my work:
> 
> This set is from a portrait workshop I run once a month. The girl is Nanna 
> (22), the daughter of a friend of mine:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157633043684748/show/
> 
> This set shows images currently exhibited at a local "Culture Building", wher 
> the local camera club is showing appr. 100 photographs:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157632924577297/show/
> 
> Enjoy :-)
> 
> Regards
> Jens Bladt
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OT: Portrait Professional 10 and Paint Engine filtering

2013-03-20 Thread Jens
Hi guys
I've been spending lots of time filtering images.
I've been using Topaz Simplify 4 and ImpressionFX Paint Engine software.
And once in a while Portrait Professional 10 Studio.

I thought you'd like to se some of my work:

This set is from a portrait workshop I run once a month. The girl is Nanna 
(22), the daughter of a friend of mine:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157633043684748/show/

This set shows images currently exhibited at a local "Culture Building", wher 
the local camera club is showing appr. 100 photographs:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/sets/72157632924577297/show/

Enjoy :-)

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re: FujiFilm discontinues two professional slide films

2012-07-19 Thread John Sessoms

From: Darren Addy


www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/2193030/fujifilm-discontinues-two-professional-films


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Re: FujiFilm discontinues two professional slide films

2012-07-19 Thread Adam Montoya
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 1:35 PM, Darren Addy  wrote:
> www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/2193030/fujifilm-discontinues-two-professional-films
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So no more  Velvia 100F but we'll still be able to play with the 50 in
120 and 35mm.


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FujiFilm discontinues two professional slide films

2012-07-19 Thread Darren Addy
www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/2193030/fujifilm-discontinues-two-professional-films

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Professional question: Anybody know anyone at Getty images?

2012-06-07 Thread Mark Roberts
Contact me off-list if so.

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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-15 Thread David J Brooks
Excellent find Mark. Reconfirms my getting out, so to speak.

Dave

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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread Ken Waller
The pro outdoor photogs that I know make their money now by doing workshops, 
tours & seminars. Twenty years ago they made their income selling their 
images for publication.


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Subject: Re: Professional photography: Right on the money


An excellent review of the limited opportunities and common missteps. 
Thanks for posting.

Paul
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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Bill,
I agree, he's on a treadmill to keep 1 step ahead of his photographers.
He and his wife do all the sales & marketing so he holds onto that
aspect tightly.
I really think that's where the money is.
With the financial crisis, more than half his business dried-up.
He fired more than half of his photographers and came out OK.
He's not the guy I'd want to shoot my daughter's wedding.
(Where's Tom VanVeen?)
Regards,  Bob S.

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> On 14/05/2011 4:48 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>> That's a good perspective.
>> The only photographer I know who is really successful (4 Corvettes, 2
>> boats, etc.),
>> leverages his marketing and salesman skills by hiring people to shoot
>> weddings.
>> He's the consumate salesman and had 12 people working for him last
>> weekend,
>> running photos, videos, DJ'ing, and running photo booths.
>> Each client paid a retainer before the event.
>
> The guy I learned wedding photography from did much the same thing. The only
> problem was that when he had as many as 18 photographers working for him he
> was for the most part no longer a photographer nor in control of his brand
> name.
> A number of people just plain refused to shoot his particular style (I
> didn't especially like his work, but I shot how I was told to shoot).
> Consequently, quite often what he was selling was not what the people were
> getting.
> I stopped shooting for him entirely when I realized that what I was doing
> for him wasn't compatible at all with how I wanted to shoot.
> Eventually the whole thing fell apart on him because his style of
> photography went out of style he refused to change, and he ended up
> competing with a lot of the people who he had mentored, myself included.
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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread William Robb

On 14/05/2011 4:48 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote:

Mark,
That's a good perspective.
The only photographer I know who is really successful (4 Corvettes, 2
boats, etc.),
leverages his marketing and salesman skills by hiring people to shoot weddings.
He's the consumate salesman and had 12 people working for him last weekend,
running photos, videos, DJ'ing, and running photo booths.
Each client paid a retainer before the event.


The guy I learned wedding photography from did much the same thing. The 
only problem was that when he had as many as 18 photographers working 
for him he was for the most part no longer a photographer nor in control 
of his brand name.
A number of people just plain refused to shoot his particular style (I 
didn't especially like his work, but I shot how I was told to shoot).
Consequently, quite often what he was selling was not what the people 
were getting.
I stopped shooting for him entirely when I realized that what I was 
doing for him wasn't compatible at all with how I wanted to shoot.
Eventually the whole thing fell apart on him because his style of 
photography went out of style he refused to change, and he ended up 
competing with a lot of the people who he had mentored, myself included.


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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread Bob Sullivan
Mark,
That's a good perspective.
The only photographer I know who is really successful (4 Corvettes, 2
boats, etc.),
leverages his marketing and salesman skills by hiring people to shoot weddings.
He's the consumate salesman and had 12 people working for him last weekend,
running photos, videos, DJ'ing, and running photo booths.
Each client paid a retainer before the event.
Regards,  Bob S.

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>>Photography as a profession:
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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread Cotty
On 14/5/11, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Photography as a profession:




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Re: Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread Paul Stenquist
An excellent review of the limited opportunities and common missteps. Thanks 
for posting.
Paul
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Professional photography: Right on the money

2011-05-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Photography as a profession:
http://laurencekim.com/2011/04/28/the-photography-business-and-the-american-dream/
 
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OT follow up Portrait Professional

2011-02-02 Thread Elizabeth Masoner
Ok, after seeing Portrait Professional advertised on my own website (I
REALLY wish the ad guys would tell me ahead of time when they land a new
client) and seeing a previous discussion here I contacted the developers and
got my hands on a review copy of the Portrait Professional Studio software
(step up from the basic).

After spending several hours testing the software out on numerous facial
types I can honestly say it is a very powerful tool.  It IS easy to go
overboard but if used with a cautious hand it is very quick and simple to
remove acne, slim faces, and generally clean up portraits.  I think it is
most useful for glamour shot type work (like proms and such where folks
don't care about reality - they want to be at least as pretty as their
clothes).

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Ha!  One of my favorites.  I'm actually more interested in it now that
I went to the website.  You can  do more minor touch ups which would
be handy:

http://www.portraitprofessional.com/photo_editing_software/

If nothing else, watch the video.  It's pretty scary to watch the face
shape change.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Cotty
>>
>> On 18/1/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> >I missed that.  wow.  Don't worry though.  At some point plastic
>>> >surgery will become common and people will actually look like that.
>>
>> If I had a body like that I'd play with it every day :)
>>
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread John Sessoms

From: Cotty

On 18/1/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:


>I missed that.  wow.  Don't worry though.  At some point plastic
>surgery will become common and people will actually look like that.

If I had a body like that I'd play with it every day :)




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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread William Robb

On 18/01/2011 9:09 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On 11-01-17 11:00 AM, Jens wrote:

Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite 
impressive, actually.
I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless 
software like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken 
of :-)


http://www.planfoto.dk/home/Tests/Portrait_Professional/testimage.htm

Regards
Jens

Jens, by now you can see why such things are rarely spoken of in this 
venue. I would call it "Don't-ask-don't-tell-ware". ;-)


I recommend that you take a good look at Imagenomic Portraiture:
http://www.imagenomic.com/pt.aspx

While the prices are higher than Portrait Pro and some of the others 
you've probably seen, the quality of this software is extremely high. 
Portraiture goes to a great deal of trouble to preserve natural skin 
detail, pores, fine hairs, etc, while minimizing blemishes, lines, and 
blotchiness.  If you do a careful job of preparing the portrait with a 
first pass to remove acne scars, reduce under-eye shadow and such, 
Portraiture will give you very clean natural looking skin without that 
blurred, plastic look that gives touching-up such a bad reputation.


Actually, if you *want* the plastic look it can do it. Just pull all 
the sliders up to 11 and you'll get the fashion/glamour mannequin 
look. They provide presets to do things like overexpose and 
de-saturate skin so it looks like those 1980's Robert Palmer videos.


What I generally do is use Portraiture as a Photoshop filter and have 
it produce its results in a new layer. I then reduce the opacity of 
that layer so that some of the original unretouched image shows 
through to improve the naturalness. I also use it with fairly 
un-aggressive settings unless requested otherwise.


Have fun!

-bmw



I was going to reply to this thread, but you just did it for me.
I had a look at Portrait Pro a while back and decided it wasn't for me. 
I was able to make it do what I wanted, but it was far too much trouble 
to map facial features for the program given the amount of portraiture I 
was doing and the time it would take to do it.


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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
Now that is motivation for medical science.  ;-)

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>>I missed that.  wow.  Don't worry though.  At some point plastic
>>surgery will become common and people will actually look like that.
>
> If I had a body like that I'd play with it every day :)
>
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread Bruce Walker

On 11-01-17 11:00 AM, Jens wrote:

Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive, actually.
I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software like 
this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)

http://www.planfoto.dk/home/Tests/Portrait_Professional/testimage.htm

Regards
Jens

Jens, by now you can see why such things are rarely spoken of in this 
venue. I would call it "Don't-ask-don't-tell-ware". ;-)


I recommend that you take a good look at Imagenomic Portraiture:
http://www.imagenomic.com/pt.aspx

While the prices are higher than Portrait Pro and some of the others 
you've probably seen, the quality of this software is extremely high. 
Portraiture goes to a great deal of trouble to preserve natural skin 
detail, pores, fine hairs, etc, while minimizing blemishes, lines, and 
blotchiness.  If you do a careful job of preparing the portrait with a 
first pass to remove acne scars, reduce under-eye shadow and such, 
Portraiture will give you very clean natural looking skin without that 
blurred, plastic look that gives touching-up such a bad reputation.


Actually, if you *want* the plastic look it can do it. Just pull all the 
sliders up to 11 and you'll get the fashion/glamour mannequin look. They 
provide presets to do things like overexpose and de-saturate skin so it 
looks like those 1980's Robert Palmer videos.


What I generally do is use Portraiture as a Photoshop filter and have it 
produce its results in a new layer. I then reduce the opacity of that 
layer so that some of the original unretouched image shows through to 
improve the naturalness. I also use it with fairly un-aggressive 
settings unless requested otherwise.


Have fun!

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 18/1/11, Steven Desjardins, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I missed that.  wow.  Don't worry though.  At some point plastic
>surgery will become common and people will actually look like that.

If I had a body like that I'd play with it every day :)

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread eckinator
2011/1/18 Steven Desjardins :
>
> I missed that.  wow.  Don't worry though.  At some point plastic
> surgery will become common and people will actually look like that.

yeah and that is where they got the idea for "I am Legend"

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread Steven Desjardins
I missed that.  wow.  Don't worry though.  At some point plastic
surgery will become common and people will actually look like that.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 6:41 AM, Cotty  wrote:
> On 17/1/11, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
>>This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive,
>>actually.
>>I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software
>>like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)
>>
>>http://www.planfoto.dk/home/Tests/Portrait_Professional/testimage.htm
>
> Does it change the shape of her head?? Jesus wept.
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-18 Thread Cotty
On 17/1/11, Jens, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
>This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive,
>actually.
>I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software
>like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)
>
>http://www.planfoto.dk/home/Tests/Portrait_Professional/testimage.htm

Does it change the shape of her head?? Jesus wept.

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread P. J. Alling
No, Becky Carter makes them look lie plastic models made by 
extraterrestrials that heard rumors of what humans looked like.


On 1/17/2011 5:22 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

From: "P. J. Alling"

She looks like a high end manikin or maybe sex doll, not human at all...

On 1/17/2011 1:50 PM, Jens wrote:

> For a little closer look, please see this:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5363291943/
>
> Regards
> Jens
>


I disagree. She looks to me like a perfectly normal young woman who's 
photograph has been smoothed and softened in such a way as to flatter 
her, and make her look as attractive as possible by current standards 
of fashion.


This ain't that Becky Carter, make 'em look like a f*g Barbie Doll 
crap.


That's how young ladies want to look in a photograph now-a-days, and 
it's not my place to tell them they're wrong. Nor do I think they are 
wrong. It's style and fashion and tastes differ.


The only "flaw" I see is the effect appears to stop at the line of the 
necklace. Below the necklace, the skin doesn't appear to have been 
softened and smoothed to the same extent as the rest of the portrait. 
If you're going to use that effect, it should be applied to all of the 
visible skin. Makes the effect less obvious.



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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P. J. Alling"

She looks like a high end manikin or maybe sex doll, not human at all...

On 1/17/2011 1:50 PM, Jens wrote:

> For a little closer look, please see this:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5363291943/
>
> Regards
> Jens
>


I disagree. She looks to me like a perfectly normal young woman who's 
photograph has been smoothed and softened in such a way as to flatter 
her, and make her look as attractive as possible by current standards of 
fashion.


This ain't that Becky Carter, make 'em look like a f*g Barbie Doll crap.

That's how young ladies want to look in a photograph now-a-days, and 
it's not my place to tell them they're wrong. Nor do I think they are 
wrong. It's style and fashion and tastes differ.


The only "flaw" I see is the effect appears to stop at the line of the 
necklace. Below the necklace, the skin doesn't appear to have been 
softened and smoothed to the same extent as the rest of the portrait. If 
you're going to use that effect, it should be applied to all of the 
visible skin. Makes the effect less obvious.



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Re: Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
Of course.  I know many folks like this treatment and this one
supposedly does it quickly.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:45 PM, Jens  wrote:
> So do I, Steven. But it's nice to know, it can be done, in case customers or 
> friend prefere it.
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> On Jan 17, 2011 17:54 "Steven Desjardins"  wrote:
>> We've actually talked about this.  I personally dislike that extreme
>> level of "plastic" skin".  I much prefer the middle image as a touched
>> up final version.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator 
>> wrote:
>> > had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for those
>> > producing portraiture for an advertising or personal gift context.
>> > not
>> > my cup of tea though, I prefer deep wrinkles ;]
>> > cheers
>> > Ecke
>> >
>> > 2011/1/17 Jens :
>> >> Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
>> >> This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite
>> >> impressive, actually.
>> >> I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless
>> >> software like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely
>> >> spoken of :-)
>> >>
>> >> Regards
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Paul Stenquist

On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:


Probably not. All that high end commercial stuff is done with
high end commercial software.

True. PhotoShop specifically.


Along with the Nik Dynamic Skin Softener filter plug-in (from Color
Efex Pro) and some highly paid talent who know how to get everything
possible out of it. That's the really high end part, the guy/gal behind
the tablet who knows how to make it RAWK!!

Yet you still get the occasional "Photoshop Disasters".

http://www.psdisasters.com/

I love that site. IMHO, just about the most fun you can have with your 
clothes on.



This is low-cost software for us poor folks who can't afford high
end commercial software, but still want to be able to produce
that "airbrushed to hell and gone" look.

Exactly.



Basically using an algorithm to replace that experienced high end 
talent. It looks like it could be good software, but it's only going to 
be as good as the person using it. I see that it is available as a 
plug-in for Photoshop.



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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread P. J. Alling

She looks like a high end manikin or maybe sex doll, not human at all...

On 1/17/2011 1:50 PM, Jens wrote:

For a little closer look, please see this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5363291943/

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Paul Sorenson
Around here they still use it for that most important of all 
terminologies - the "Senior Discount" :-)


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On 1/17/2011 12:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
Probably not. All that high end commercial stuff is done with high end 
commercial software.


This is low-cost software for us poor folks who can't afford high end 
commercial software, but still want to be able to produce that 
"airbrushed to hell and gone" look. When you're selling photography, 
whether you like the look or not is less important than whether the 
customer likes the look.


I'd use it for brides in a heartbeat, 'cause I know that's the look 
they want. I'm sure the target market is "Seniors" photographers.


Which always confuses me BTW, because "Seniors" doesn't mean people my 
age. I spent a lifetime getting to be a senior, and now they've taken 
the word away from me to use it for high school kids.


I guess I shouldn't complain, nobody wants to hear it and at least 
they haven't taken away the discount buffet (if I get there before 
4:00pm).  8-D



From: eckinator

same here. but I know that it is probably used for every single cover
photo of my tv guide - these people look like never so much as a pore
had ever disgraced their faces, let alone any character or even
charisma 2011/1/17 Steven Desjardins :

We've actually talked about this. ?I personally dislike that
extreme level of "plastic" skin". ?I much prefer the middle image
as a touched up final version.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator 
wrote:

had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for
those producing portraiture for an advertising or personal
gift context. not my cup of tea though, I prefer deep
wrinkles ;] cheers Ecke

2011/1/17 Jens :

Anyone here using Portrait Professional? This is
software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite
impressive, actually. I guess it's not "Come il fout" or
PC these days. Nevertheless software like this may be
quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)

Regards Jens




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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Jan 17, 2011, at 1:58 PM, John Sessoms wrote:

> Probably not. All that high end commercial stuff is done with high end 
> commercial software.

True. PhotoShop specifically.
> 
> This is low-cost software for us poor folks who can't afford high end 
> commercial software, but still want to be able to produce that "airbrushed to 
> hell and gone" look.

Exactly. 

> When you're selling photography, whether you like the look or not is less 
> important than whether the customer likes the look.

Very true.
> 
> I'd use it for brides in a heartbeat, 'cause I know that's the look they 
> want. I'm sure the target market is "Seniors" photographers.
> 
> Which always confuses me BTW, because "Seniors" doesn't mean people my age. I 
> spent a lifetime getting to be a senior, and now they've taken the word away 
> from me to use it for high school kids.
> 
> I guess I shouldn't complain, nobody wants to hear it and at least they 
> haven't taken away the discount buffet (if I get there before 4:00pm).  8-D
> 
> 
> From: eckinator
>> same here. but I know that it is probably used for every single cover
>> photo of my tv guide - these people look like never so much as a pore
>> had ever disgraced their faces, let alone any character or even
>> charisma 2011/1/17 Steven Desjardins :
>>>> We've actually talked about this. ?I personally dislike that
>>>> extreme level of "plastic" skin". ?I much prefer the middle image
>>>> as a touched up final version.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for
>>>>>> those producing portraiture for an advertising or personal
>>>>>> gift context. not my cup of tea though, I prefer deep
>>>>>> wrinkles ;] cheers Ecke
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2011/1/17 Jens :
>>>>>>>> Anyone here using Portrait Professional? This is
>>>>>>>> software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite
>>>>>>>> impressive, actually. I guess it's not "Come il fout" or
>>>>>>>> PC these days. Nevertheless software like this may be
>>>>>>>> quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Regards Jens
> 
> 
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread John Sessoms
Probably not. All that high end commercial stuff is done with high end 
commercial software.


This is low-cost software for us poor folks who can't afford high end 
commercial software, but still want to be able to produce that 
"airbrushed to hell and gone" look. When you're selling photography, 
whether you like the look or not is less important than whether the 
customer likes the look.


I'd use it for brides in a heartbeat, 'cause I know that's the look they 
want. I'm sure the target market is "Seniors" photographers.


Which always confuses me BTW, because "Seniors" doesn't mean people my 
age. I spent a lifetime getting to be a senior, and now they've taken 
the word away from me to use it for high school kids.


I guess I shouldn't complain, nobody wants to hear it and at least they 
haven't taken away the discount buffet (if I get there before 4:00pm).  8-D



From: eckinator

same here. but I know that it is probably used for every single cover
photo of my tv guide - these people look like never so much as a pore
had ever disgraced their faces, let alone any character or even
charisma 2011/1/17 Steven Desjardins :

We've actually talked about this. ?I personally dislike that
extreme level of "plastic" skin". ?I much prefer the middle image
as a touched up final version.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator 
wrote:

had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for
those producing portraiture for an advertising or personal
gift context. not my cup of tea though, I prefer deep
wrinkles ;] cheers Ecke

2011/1/17 Jens :

Anyone here using Portrait Professional? This is
software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite
impressive, actually. I guess it's not "Come il fout" or
PC these days. Nevertheless software like this may be
quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)

Regards Jens




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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Jens
For a little closer look, please see this:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bladt/5363291943/

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On Jan 17, 2011 17:00 "Jens"  wrote:
> Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
> This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive,
> actually.
> I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless
> software like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken
> of :-)
> 
> http://www.planfoto.dk/home/Tests/Portrait_Professional/testimage.htm
> 
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Re: Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Jens
So do I, Steven. But it's nice to know, it can be done, in case customers or 
friend prefere it.
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On Jan 17, 2011 17:54 "Steven Desjardins"  wrote:
> We've actually talked about this.  I personally dislike that extreme
> level of "plastic" skin".  I much prefer the middle image as a touched
> up final version.
> 
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator 
> wrote:
> > had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for those
> > producing portraiture for an advertising or personal gift context.
> > not
> > my cup of tea though, I prefer deep wrinkles ;]
> > cheers
> > Ecke
> >
> > 2011/1/17 Jens :
> >> Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
> >> This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite
> >> impressive, actually.
> >> I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless
> >> software like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely
> >> spoken of :-)
> >>
> >> Regards
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RE: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: "Jens"

Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive,
actually.
I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software
like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)



I don't know whether it's "Come il fout" or not. The question is, does 
it give you results your customers want to buy?


I have not worked with this particular application, but I'm aware of it 
and what it claims it can do for you. I don't have any basis to evaluate 
whether it actually delivers on those claims or not.


If it delivers what it promises, and that's what your customers want, 
then I think it would be a useful tool.



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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread eckinator
same here. but I know that it is probably used for every single cover
photo of my tv guide - these people look like never so much as a pore
had ever disgraced their faces, let alone any character or even
charisma

2011/1/17 Steven Desjardins :
> We've actually talked about this.  I personally dislike that extreme
> level of "plastic" skin".  I much prefer the middle image as a touched
> up final version.
>
> On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator  wrote:
>> had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for those
>> producing portraiture for an advertising or personal gift context. not
>> my cup of tea though, I prefer deep wrinkles ;]
>> cheers
>> Ecke
>>
>> 2011/1/17 Jens :
>>> Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
>>> This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive, 
>>> actually.
>>> I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software 
>>> like this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)
>>>
>>> Regards
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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Steven Desjardins
We've actually talked about this.  I personally dislike that extreme
level of "plastic" skin".  I much prefer the middle image as a touched
up final version.

On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for those
> producing portraiture for an advertising or personal gift context. not
> my cup of tea though, I prefer deep wrinkles ;]
> cheers
> Ecke
>
> 2011/1/17 Jens :
>> Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
>> This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive, 
>> actually.
>> I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software like 
>> this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)
>>
>> Regards
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OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Jens
Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive, actually.
I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software like 
this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)

http://www.planfoto.dk/home/Tests/Portrait_Professional/testimage.htm

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Re: OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread eckinator
had never even heard of it. looks like it could be useful for those
producing portraiture for an advertising or personal gift context. not
my cup of tea though, I prefer deep wrinkles ;]
cheers
Ecke

2011/1/17 Jens :
> Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
> This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive, 
> actually.
> I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software like 
> this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)
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OT: Portrait Professional

2011-01-17 Thread Jens
Anyone here using Portrait Professional?
This is software, that's affordable, easy to use and quite impressive, actually.
I guess it's not "Come il fout" or PC these days. Nevertheless software like 
this may be quite commonly used, although rarely spoken of :-)

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Re: OT a professional photographer's tale of woe

2010-10-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: Steven Desjardins

I realize that she's probably an annoying prima donna, but she's very
talented.  Her troubles aren't completely her fault either.  My
sympathies lean toward her.


Yeah, seems like it all started from some kind of problems with the 
contractor's renovating her condo damaging the neighbors property or 
something, but I always wondered why the contractor's insurance wouldn't 
cover that. Why did Leibovitz have to pay for it?


I'm not impressed with her photography. No criticism intended, it's just 
not to my taste.


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Re: OT a professional photographer's tale of woe

2010-10-25 Thread Steven Desjardins
I realize that she's probably an annoying prima donna, but she's very
talented.  Her troubles aren't completely her fault either.  My
sympathies lean toward her.

On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> On 10-10-25 7:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://gawker.com/5672711/the-mystery-of-annie-leibovitzs-economic-collapse-solved-nobody-likes-her-pictures
>>
>> which points to:
>>
>> http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/76af3c7a-dbf2-11df-af09-00144feabdc0.html
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>
> "Leibovitz has consistently failed, throughout her career, to sufficiently
> kiss the asses of the sort of people who would spend $3.5 million on a bunch
> of photographic prints."
>
> Which entirely confirms my suspicions for how The Modern Art World really
> works.
>
> I'm quite impressed by Leibovitz' work, especially her earlier stuff. I've
> got her book Photographs Portfolio 1970-1990 and it's great.
>
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Re: OT a professional photographer's tale of woe

2010-10-25 Thread Bruce Walker

On 10-10-25 7:41 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

http://gawker.com/5672711/the-mystery-of-annie-leibovitzs-economic-collapse-solved-nobody-likes-her-pictures

which points to:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/76af3c7a-dbf2-11df-af09-00144feabdc0.html


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Which entirely confirms my suspicions for how The Modern Art World 
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I'm quite impressed by Leibovitz' work, especially her earlier stuff. 
I've got her book Photographs Portfolio 1970-1990 and it's great.


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OT a professional photographer's tale of woe

2010-10-25 Thread Larry Colen

http://gawker.com/5672711/the-mystery-of-annie-leibovitzs-economic-collapse-solved-nobody-likes-her-pictures

which points to:

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Re: lexar professional udma compact flash & sd reader (usb 2.0)

2010-06-20 Thread Cotty
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>I'm happy to report that this card reader works nicely.  Just tried it out
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This is the same card reader I got for Stef - highly recommended.

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-19 Thread eckinator
2010/6/18 Doug Franklin :
>>>
>>> Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!
>>
>> Definitely. He doesn't contradict himself even once.
>
> The photos are prettier, too.

I'm proud to announce I've gone pro, too. My shot doesn't show quite
as much detail but like he said I can't possibly be quite as good...
http://tinyurl.com/GonePro
http://preview.tinyurl.com/GonePro
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-06-18 16:39, eckinator wrote:

2010/6/18 Doug Franklin:


Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!


Definitely. He doesn't contradict himself even once.


The photos are prettier, too.

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread eckinator
2010/6/18 Doug Franklin :
>
> Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!

Definitely. He doesn't contradict himself even once.
Cheers
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling

On 6/18/2010 3:45 PM, Doug Franklin wrote:

On 2010-06-18 14:07, Larry Colen wrote:
Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera 
and a wide aperature.

http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html


Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!

In this case using Kenny's full name might be useful, so of the poor 
sots might find the comparison enlightening.


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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Doug Franklin

On 2010-06-18 14:07, Larry Colen wrote:

Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera and a wide 
aperature.
http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html


Hey, that guy's better than KR!!!

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Paul Sorenson

I usually set mine on P (Professional)

-p

On 6/18/2010 1:32 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:29 AM, David Parsons wrote:

   

Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
have a great keyboard.
 

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Ken Waller

He left out the need for a black camera body !

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

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Subject: Re: How to become a professional photographer



Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
have a great keyboard.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
Professional photography tips with Thomas, who has a digital camera and a 
wide aperature.

http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen

On Jun 18, 2010, at 11:29 AM, David Parsons wrote:

> Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
> have a great keyboard.

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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread David Parsons
Wow, never heard of any of those tips before.  He writes good, he must
have a great keyboard.

On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> wide aperature.
> http://www.27bslash6.com/photography.html
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Re: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread P. J. Alling

That just /sounds/ so *dirty* .

On 6/18/2010 2:07 PM, Larry Colen wrote:

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RE: How to become a professional photographer

2010-06-18 Thread Chris Mitchell
Larry Colen wrote:
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2010-06-18 Thread Larry Colen
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lexar professional udma compact flash & sd reader (usb 2.0)

2010-06-17 Thread Christine Aguila
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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-30 Thread Rob Studdert
On 30/01/2010, frank theriault  wrote:

> After they take photos, they look on the camera back to "human" what
> they just took.  They say they've been waiting years to get us back...

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-29 Thread frank theriault
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Bob W  wrote:
> At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
>
> Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
> on pieces of scrap paper and hand them to another, who appeared to pose
> before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...

They've also purpose-built a chimp-proof DSLR.

After they take photos, they look on the camera back to "human" what
they just took.  They say they've been waiting years to get us back...

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-26 Thread John Sessoms

From: "P. J. Alling"


Does Cotty know about this?



Know about it? I thought he was the star.


 On 1/25/2010 5:10 PM, Bob W wrote:

> At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
>
> Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
> on pieces of scrap paper and hand them to another, who appeared to pose
> before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...
>
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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-26 Thread P. J. Alling

Does Cotty know about this?

On 1/25/2010 5:10 PM, Bob W wrote:

At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm

Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
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before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-26 Thread AlunFoto
2010/1/25 Bob W :
> At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm

Chimping on both sides of the lens? Wow...

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RE: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-26 Thread Bob W
> > >At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> > 
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
> > 
> > 
> > I tell you what, they do a better job of it than some of 
> the journos 
> > at our place!
> 
> Fortunately they haven't yet learned to drive Land Rovers ...
> 

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-25 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:06:04PM +, Cotty wrote:
> On 25/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
> 
> 
> I tell you what, they do a better job of it than some of the journos at
> our place!

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RE: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-25 Thread Bob W

> >Which raises a question: Do Cotty's knuckles drag on the ground?
> 
> That's not so much an issue as those horrible unexplained raw 
> patches on my ass.
> 

Aren't you the one they call Sally?

Bob


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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-25 Thread Cotty
On 26/1/10, David Savage, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Which raises a question: Do Cotty's knuckles drag on the ground?

That's not so much an issue as those horrible unexplained raw patches on
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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-25 Thread David Savage
2010/1/26 Bob W :
> At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm
>
> Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
> on pieces of scrap paper and hand them to another, who appeared to pose
> before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...

Which raises a question: Do Cotty's knuckles drag on the ground?

:-D

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Re: OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-25 Thread Cotty
On 25/1/10, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed:

>At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
>http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm


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OT: Chimp threat to professional news-gatherers

2010-01-25 Thread Bob W
At a zoo in Scotland chimpanzees have learned to make videos:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8472000/8472831.stm

Researchers were surprised by scenes in which one chimp was seen to scribble
on pieces of scrap paper and hand them to another, who appeared to pose
before the camera and read "Alas, poor Cheeta! I knew him, Bubbles"...

Bob


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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-19 Thread Luiz Felipe
Roger that... my "Disney Travellers" venture allows me to cut whatever I 
feel like, as long as they're smiling... and I get less worries about 
clenched fists. Happy they are, but not everyone feels like being 
photographed with the company logo behind.


Sorry about the "income compensation" issue. Some time ago I discovered 
that the moment my income passed some limit I would end up with less 
than before. :-/ Today it's so low I need not bother... :-(


lf

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On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:47:29PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
Larry, the only suggestion I can think of is trying a longer focal and 
lower angle to avoid the end of the banner near the floor. Good grabs on 
the tables...


Yeah, but I didn't want to cut off their feet.


lf

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I reported the $500 that I'll eventually get paid for my first gig. My
unemployment check showed up today, $375 lighter than it would have
been. So, basically, if I find a short term job, for every dollar that
I earn, I get to keep about $.25, which is just about enough to pay
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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-17 Thread Paul Sorenson

Cash is king...  :-X

-p

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I reported the $500 that I'll eventually get paid for my first gig. My
unemployment check showed up today, $375 lighter than it would have
been. So, basically, if I find a short term job, for every dollar that
I earn, I get to keep about $.25, which is just about enough to pay
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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-17 Thread John Sessoms

From: Larry Colen

On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:47:29PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> Larry, the only suggestion I can think of is trying a longer focal and 
> lower angle to avoid the end of the banner near the floor. Good grabs on 
> the tables...


Yeah, but I didn't want to cut off their feet.

> 
> lf
> 
> ...happy costumer, happy paycheck...


I reported the $500 that I'll eventually get paid for my first gig. My
unemployment check showed up today, $375 lighter than it would have
been. So, basically, if I find a short term job, for every dollar that
I earn, I get to keep about $.25, which is just about enough to pay
the taxes on it.


If it works the way it does here in NC (and I think it should if you're 
in the US, because it's a Federal regulation), there's a certain dollar 
amount you can earn in any one week without reducing your benefit for 
that week. Your "account" has a certain dollar value - so many weeks at 
whatever your weekly benefit.


The money withheld from this week's benefit should still be in the 
account, and should extend your benefit to another partial week.


When I was last drawing unemployment, any week I found partial work and 
the paycheck exceeded the earnings limit by any significant amount, I 
just didn't file for that week.


Again, if it works the way it does here, you don't have to take the 
benefits sequentially, a claim for benefits runs for a whole year from 
the date the claim is opened, so if you find a week's work you don't 
lose your benefit.


It's intended to encourage you to accept work even if it's only for a 
limited time.


Doing that, I managed to eke out 26 weeks of benefits to cover a full year.

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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-16 Thread Tim Bray
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:

> The company a friend works for put on a charity poker tournament (the
> winners got to donate to their favorite charity) as basically a
> shmoozefest for oracleworld.

Oracle Open World, to be precise, 35,000+ users of "Enterprise" (i.e.
expensive) server software.  I was there too, speaking and blogging.

Some shots:

One of the plenaries:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/10/13/-big/PS086543.jpg

The inside of an IBM mainframe:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/10/14/-big/PS086594.jpg

Spooky part of the trade-show floor:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/10/14/-big/PS086618.jpg

Write-up, probably only of interest to people who know what Oracle is:
http://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2009/10/14/OOW-Take-aways

Those shots are all with the Sigma 30mm f1.4, which I've had real
trouble getting comfy with.  So I left it screwed onto the camera for
3 days in a row to force myself to practice and practice.  I'm still
having trouble.

 -Tim

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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-16 Thread frank theriault
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> The company a friend works for put on a charity poker tournament (the
> winners got to donate to their favorite charity) as basically a
> shmoozefest for oracleworld.
>
> This was a very different style of photography than I've done. As long
> as it was "good enough" content and expediency were far more important
> than technical, or even artistic, perfection.
>
> I was hired nominally to get shots of the guests in front of the
> backdrop. They didn't do a great job of herding the guests to me as
> they came in and there was a hard time limit of when the instruction
> of how to play, and then the actual tournament would start.
>
> The plan was that I'd take the shots from 6:00 to 6:30, process them,
> and someone would run the files down to Walgreen's for 5x7 prints. I
> was then encouraged to take photos during the tournament. I took care
> to ask who were the people I should get the photos of (important
> customers etc.)
>
> One of the customers missed out on the first round of "prom photos",
> and asked if he could get a shot later. Rather than shooting with
> Anita Cocktail (the drag queen impersonator in several of the shots)
> we got a shot of him with Amy (the friend who organized the event). He
> was hamming it up a bit for the camera putting his head on her
> shoulder, so I told her to kiss him on the cheek. It turns out that
> their company may get a contract from his, so that may have worked out
> quite well.
>
> If your curious, the pictures are up. They aren't destined for any
> galleries, but the customer was happy, and the check cashed.
>
> Twenty three shots in the set:
> There are two ways of viewing them, the flickriver site shows them in
> 600x800, but is a little slower to load:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/
>
> The flickr site shows them as 100x100 crops
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/

I don't know why, but I really like these.  There's a sort of "formal
snapshot" look to the posed shots that I really like - they're almost
surreal.

cheers,
frank

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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-16 Thread Larry Colen
On Fri, Oct 16, 2009 at 06:47:29PM -0300, Luiz Felipe wrote:
> Larry, the only suggestion I can think of is trying a longer focal and 
> lower angle to avoid the end of the banner near the floor. Good grabs on 
> the tables...

Yeah, but I didn't want to cut off their feet.

> 
> lf
> 
> ...happy costumer, happy paycheck...

I reported the $500 that I'll eventually get paid for my first gig. My
unemployment check showed up today, $375 lighter than it would have
been. So, basically, if I find a short term job, for every dollar that
I earn, I get to keep about $.25, which is just about enough to pay
the taxes on it.


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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-16 Thread Luiz Felipe
Larry, the only suggestion I can think of is trying a longer focal and 
lower angle to avoid the end of the banner near the floor. Good grabs on 
the tables...


lf

...happy costumer, happy paycheck...

Larry Colen escreveu:

The company a friend works for put on a charity poker tournament (the
winners got to donate to their favorite charity) as basically a
shmoozefest for oracleworld.  


This was a very different style of photography than I've done. As long
as it was "good enough" content and expediency were far more important
than technical, or even artistic, perfection.

I was hired nominally to get shots of the guests in front of the
backdrop. They didn't do a great job of herding the guests to me as
they came in and there was a hard time limit of when the instruction
of how to play, and then the actual tournament would start. 


The plan was that I'd take the shots from 6:00 to 6:30, process them,
and someone would run the files down to Walgreen's for 5x7 prints. I
was then encouraged to take photos during the tournament. I took care
to ask who were the people I should get the photos of (important
customers etc.)

One of the customers missed out on the first round of "prom photos",
and asked if he could get a shot later. Rather than shooting with
Anita Cocktail (the drag queen impersonator in several of the shots)
we got a shot of him with Amy (the friend who organized the event). He
was hamming it up a bit for the camera putting his head on her
shoulder, so I told her to kiss him on the cheek. It turns out that
their company may get a contract from his, so that may have worked out
quite well.

If your curious, the pictures are up. They aren't destined for any
galleries, but the customer was happy, and the check cashed. 


Twenty three shots in the set:
There are two ways of viewing them, the flickriver site shows them in
600x800, but is a little slower to load:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/

The flickr site shows them as 100x100 crops
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/




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Re: Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-15 Thread Miserere
Larry,

the most important part of your post was:

"and the check cashed"

Everything else is secondary, mate  :-)

As you said, the client liked the photos, so that's great. Hopefully
you'll get some repeat business!

Cheers,


 --M.


2009/10/15 Larry Colen :
> The company a friend works for put on a charity poker tournament (the
> winners got to donate to their favorite charity) as basically a
> shmoozefest for oracleworld.
>
> This was a very different style of photography than I've done. As long
> as it was "good enough" content and expediency were far more important
> than technical, or even artistic, perfection.
>
> I was hired nominally to get shots of the guests in front of the
> backdrop. They didn't do a great job of herding the guests to me as
> they came in and there was a hard time limit of when the instruction
> of how to play, and then the actual tournament would start.
>
> The plan was that I'd take the shots from 6:00 to 6:30, process them,
> and someone would run the files down to Walgreen's for 5x7 prints. I
> was then encouraged to take photos during the tournament. I took care
> to ask who were the people I should get the photos of (important
> customers etc.)
>
> One of the customers missed out on the first round of "prom photos",
> and asked if he could get a shot later. Rather than shooting with
> Anita Cocktail (the drag queen impersonator in several of the shots)
> we got a shot of him with Amy (the friend who organized the event). He
> was hamming it up a bit for the camera putting his head on her
> shoulder, so I told her to kiss him on the cheek. It turns out that
> their company may get a contract from his, so that may have worked out
> quite well.
>
> If your curious, the pictures are up. They aren't destined for any
> galleries, but the customer was happy, and the check cashed.
>
> Twenty three shots in the set:
> There are two ways of viewing them, the flickriver site shows them in
> 600x800, but is a little slower to load:
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/
>
> The flickr site shows them as 100x100 crops
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/
>
>
> --
> The first step is learning to take great photos,
> the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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>
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Photos from my second professional gig

2009-10-15 Thread Larry Colen
The company a friend works for put on a charity poker tournament (the
winners got to donate to their favorite charity) as basically a
shmoozefest for oracleworld.  

This was a very different style of photography than I've done. As long
as it was "good enough" content and expediency were far more important
than technical, or even artistic, perfection.

I was hired nominally to get shots of the guests in front of the
backdrop. They didn't do a great job of herding the guests to me as
they came in and there was a hard time limit of when the instruction
of how to play, and then the actual tournament would start. 

The plan was that I'd take the shots from 6:00 to 6:30, process them,
and someone would run the files down to Walgreen's for 5x7 prints. I
was then encouraged to take photos during the tournament. I took care
to ask who were the people I should get the photos of (important
customers etc.)

One of the customers missed out on the first round of "prom photos",
and asked if he could get a shot later. Rather than shooting with
Anita Cocktail (the drag queen impersonator in several of the shots)
we got a shot of him with Amy (the friend who organized the event). He
was hamming it up a bit for the camera putting his head on her
shoulder, so I told her to kiss him on the cheek. It turns out that
their company may get a contract from his, so that may have worked out
quite well.

If your curious, the pictures are up. They aren't destined for any
galleries, but the customer was happy, and the check cashed. 

Twenty three shots in the set:
There are two ways of viewing them, the flickriver site shows them in
600x800, but is a little slower to load:
http://www.flickriver.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/

The flickr site shows them as 100x100 crops
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157622589959338/


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Re: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-06-02 Thread Jens
Hi guys
There are a number of great cameras and lenses out there.
I have been working professionally with my K20D and K10D for so,me time now. No 
problem.
Of course the are things I can't do with them. Like shooting 8 fps. or shoot 
images that require VERY fast AF. But most of the time this is not the issue.

Some lense manufactureres make lenses that can't be bought with a Pentax mount. 
That is a bit annoying. But in fact I CAN get a nice lense selection for 
Pentax, even a great lense for panoramas, like the Pentax/Tokina 10-17mm f. 
3.5.-4.5, wich can be "understood" be the panoramic software. 

As I said many times before: No customer ever asked me about my equipment. 
They are just interested in the pictures. So am I, really :-) And the paycheck, 
naturally.

Regards
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On Apr 20, 2009 19:25 "Luiz Felipe"  wrote:
> I understand your point fairly well.
> I decided to work as photographer some time ago. Got the same comments
> from everywhere, since I was using a Pentax LX and no professional
> would 
> use Pentax because those cameras weren´t up to Nikon, Canon,
> Minolta...
> 
> Stubborn, I pushed and got some acceptance - and won some bets too.
> Then 
> I needed some 120 format camera, and of course, I needed a
> Hasselblad... 
> since the Pentax 67 was such a poor camera and the lenses were no
> good...
> 
> One day I got really fed up, and cut my 67 slides a little more,
> placed 
> them in 66 mounts and told one of the smart guys I had just bought a 
> Hasselblad, and how did he like my photos? Smart guy congratulates me
> on 
> my new gear, loves my photos, wich show an impressive evolution, not 
> only because the Hassy was better, but also because I was able to 
> control my photos better. After I get him to praise the shots in the 
> next public meeting I just pull out the mount and tell him to get eyes
> checked. Won´t talk to me to this day, more than 20 years later...
> 
> I did add some Canon FD gear later (a full set for a very good price
> and 
> came with the selective metering Pentax wouldn´t offer then), found me
> a 
> good-working 500 C/M (polaroid,645 and 66 backs, more leaf shutter 
> lenses), bought a Sinar (4x5 and full moves, even if I used it more 
> often with the 67 back), and for a time had a set of tools almost 
> perfectly matched to the jobs at hand. While I became able to get more
> photos done, my photos didn't improve due to gear change... they 
> actually suffered for a while, until I got to control the new gear as
> I 
> handled the oldies. Time lag on the F1n alone made me return to the LX
> to grab some of those moments.
> 
> Then all pro photo in Fortaleza was done in 120 format, so I sold the
> FD 
> gear and returned to Pentax. Then the new trend would be Digital, and
> of 
> course I needed Canon or Mamiya(!) or some costly adapter that would 
> expose the colors in three different exposures, and one day I lose one
> specific project that was in the sixth month of development because...
> I 
> was working with obsolete slide film, and some local guy deported from
> somewhere in the world for working without permit had just arrived
> with 
> the perfect tool, capable of instant review, so he would continuously
> adjust the photos to the client interest... some brand new Nikon pro 
> camera, under 6 mp... not the obsolete Hasselblad.
> 
> Unless you would like the other aspects of the profession, you may end
> up enjoying your photos more as amateur. Not that I doubt you ARE 
> capable of working - at the photographic level your photos would allow
> you to work anywhere you want. But the smart persons you´ll work for
> and 
> the "proper profee tool" set are part of the deal. Even if you make
> your 
> way with the Amateur-oriented Pentax.
> 
> LF
> 
> LF
> 
> Timbah! escreveu:
> > One of the main problems is I've Pentax. Not kidding. An agency will
> > 
> > never talk with someone who has Pentax. The minimum is Full Frame,
> > which 
> > Pentax not planning to release. With a Nikon D700 or Canon EOS 5D
> > (MK1) 
> > I could start with luck :)
> > 
> > Also my equipment really lacks many things to become a professional.
> > All 
> > the shots with Dovile was made with the FA 50 f1.4 and I had some
> > "bad 
> > experience" with the focusing speed and accuracy of the K20D.
> > 
> > It also made me think about Pentax and Professional Photography.
> > 
> > Pentax is the very best amateur level camera and so far I know they
> > 
> > always were in the 35mm market. The Pentax K20D is a fantastic
> > camera, 
> >

Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-30 Thread mike wilson

 Miserere  wrote: 
> But hey, if somebody wants to pay me $1 million to hang around
> superstars 

You sell yourself rather cheaply..

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Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: "William Robb"
- Original Message - 
From: "Luiz Felipe"

Subject: Re: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography



>
> Yes, I ramble - this IS old age. the point is, the moment I assume to get 
> paid for some job I also assume the fine print (if any). The guy who wants 
> me to provide some photo with all rights and full contents of the camera 
> at the end of the session is just paying me an extra. No, I'm not touching 
> the legal or moral content of the session. No, I don't get that kind of 
> deal often and I simply won't sell off my projects like that. But I have 
> no interest of being known as the guy who took some so-so product photo 
> because the client wanted and paid for exactly that photo. I'm paid for 
> those photos, but I don't take them as art. Just the job at hand.

>


This is what professional photography is about.
The studio owner where I hang out puts it this way:
A professional takes pictures of what he is paid to take pictures of, an 
amateur takes pictures of what he wants to take pictures of, and generally, 
there is little cross talk between the two.


William Robb 



What I'm looking for is a professional gig to support my amateur gig.


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RE: Toughts... Pentax and Professional Photography

2009-04-29 Thread Bob W
> >
> It looks like she's had to sell the copyrights to just about 
> her entire body 
> of work to pay of debts, she may end up at Target yet.
> Do they have portrait studios?
> 
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcris
> is/4805404/Annie-Leibovitz-pawns-copyright-to-lifes-work-to-pa
> y-debts.html
> 
> William Robb 
> 
>

Jeez. How do supposedly smart people get themselves into such stupid
positions?

Bob


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