Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-23 Thread Butch Black

In 35mm it is somewhat clouded by the fact that Pentax hasn't really
marketed to the pro market. It would be safe to say that any of their *
lenses (A*, FA*,etc) are pro oriented as would be most of their really long
glass. All of their medium format lenses would be considered pro oriented
but that is pretty consistent with most MF manufacturers.

35mm pro lenses are usually fast for their focal length, superior optical
and usually build quality, and very expensive.

Margo Ellen Gesser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote;

Now hears ANOTHER dumb question: I comprehend the difference between
consumer and pro bodies. Could you good people enlighten me as to the
difference between consumer and pro LENSES? And what series of Pentax lenses
are pro?

P.S. That's not a dumb question.

BUTCH

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself
Hermann Hesse (Demian)




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-23 Thread Pål Jensen

Bruce wrote:

Your homework
 assignment is to find out how many current production lenses Pentax has that
 meets these criteria.


Count all FA* and FA Limited lenses and the few odd A pro grade lenses still in 
production and you're all set. If you want to, you can count all Pentax MF lenses as 
well. No shortage of pro grade lenses. The situations is certanly far worse when 
coming to Pentax bodies.

Pål





Re: Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-22 Thread David Brooks

I have 1 Nikon body and 7 Pentax bodies.:)
Prior to optaining the DSLR body all of my 
horse work was done with the K1000,now about 
75%.
Dave

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From: Rodelion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 21:39:02 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Professional Gear


A Nikon user with a K1000... Odd, indeed... I 
guess it must have been some
kind of nostalgy?

- Original Message -
 From: James Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Professional Gear


 I know this topic keeps coming up but I to 
metion what happened today.  I
 coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today 
was picture day.  There were
 about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo 
outfit that was handling it
had
 4 stations setup.  One for team shoots and 3 
induvidual player shots.  It
 was a nice and efficent set up.  THe team 
photo was taken with a Nikon F5,
 no surprice there.  When I got my team in 
line line at the station for
 individual shots, the photographer was using 
a Pentax K-1000.  I do not
know
 what the lens was but I found it intersiting 
to see it being used.

 Jim




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Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-22 Thread Margo Ellen Gesser

on 9/22/02 6:22 PM, Butch Black   at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No, I wasn't aware that Nikon is designing all levels of lenses as G lenses.
 I bet it will P*** off a number of Nikon users.
 
 You mean like Nikon's new 70-200/2.8 AF-S VR? Or didn't you know that Nikon
 has started dropping the aperture rings from their top of the line pro
 lenses? While this was a rather questionable move, it does meant that all
 one knows from the G designation is that it doesn't have an aperture ring:
 it
 no longer indicates quality


Now hears ANOTHER dumb question: I comprehend the difference between
consumer and pro bodies. Could you good people enlighten me as to the
difference between consumer and pro LENSES? And what series of Pentax lenses
are pro?

Margo




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-22 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

Yes it has, is and will.


From: Butch Black [EMAIL PROTECTED]
No, I wasn't aware that Nikon is designing all levels of lenses as G
lenses.
I bet it will P*** off a number of Nikon users.






Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-22 Thread Bruce Rubenstein

Using the term pro quickly gets things into a muddle, because of its many
connotations. Keep the concept industrial strength/high performance in
your mind when thinking about camera equipment. Generally, (I said
generally) prime lenses and f2.8 constant aperture zoom lenses are ruggedly
built and have high performance are considered pro. Your homework
assignment is to find out how many current production lenses Pentax has that
meets these criteria.

From: Margo Ellen Gesser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Could you good people enlighten me as to the
difference between consumer and pro .
Margo





Professional Gear

2002-09-21 Thread James Fellows

I know this topic keeps coming up but I to metion what happened today.  I
coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today was picture day.  There were
about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo outfit that was handling it had
4 stations setup.  One for team shoots and 3 induvidual player shots.  It
was a nice and efficent set up.  THe team photo was taken with a Nikon F5,
no surprice there.  When I got my team in line line at the station for
individual shots, the photographer was using a Pentax K-1000.  I do not know
what the lens was but I found it intersiting to see it being used.

Jim




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-21 Thread William Robb


- Original Message -
From: James Fellows
Subject: Professional Gear


photographer was using a Pentax K-1000.  I do not know
 what the lens was but I found it intersiting to see it being
used.

I shot a lot of weddings and portraits with my K1000's. I really
like the things.

William Robb




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-21 Thread Rodelion

A Nikon user with a K1000... Odd, indeed... I guess it must have been some
kind of nostalgy?

- Original Message -
From: James Fellows [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 8:26 PM
Subject: Professional Gear


 I know this topic keeps coming up but I to metion what happened today.  I
 coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today was picture day.  There were
 about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo outfit that was handling it
had
 4 stations setup.  One for team shoots and 3 induvidual player shots.  It
 was a nice and efficent set up.  THe team photo was taken with a Nikon F5,
 no surprice there.  When I got my team in line line at the station for
 individual shots, the photographer was using a Pentax K-1000.  I do not
know
 what the lens was but I found it intersiting to see it being used.

 Jim





Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-21 Thread Dan Scott


On Saturday, September 21, 2002, at 01:26  PM, James Fellows wrote:

 I know this topic keeps coming up but I to metion what happened 
 today.  I
 coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today was picture day.  There were
 about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo outfit that was handling 
 it had
 4 stations setup.  One for team shoots and 3 induvidual player shots.  
 It
 was a nice and efficent set up.  THe team photo was taken with a Nikon 
 F5,
 no surprice there.  When I got my team in line line at the station for
 individual shots, the photographer was using a Pentax K-1000.  I do not 
 know
 what the lens was but I found it intersiting to see it being used.

 Jim

While making small talk at a kid's birthday party a few weeks ago, one 
of the parents was telling me about how great his new Nikon F5 was, he 
also confided that he had recently inherited his late father-in-law's 
K1000 and 50mm lens and, in lowered tones, was surprised that he could 
get better pictures with it than with his new F5. Go figure.

Dan Scott




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-21 Thread Rob Studdert

On 21 Sep 2002 at 14:26, James Fellows wrote:

 I know this topic keeps coming up but I to metion what happened today.  I
 coach my 5 yeqr old's soccer team and today was picture day.  There were
 about 50 teams of 10 kids each and the photo outfit that was handling it had 4
 stations setup.  One for team shoots and 3 induvidual player shots.  It was a
 nice and efficent set up.  THe team photo was taken with a Nikon F5, no surprice
 there.  When I got my team in line line at the station for individual shots, the
 photographer was using a Pentax K-1000.  I do not know what the lens was but I
 found it intersiting to see it being used.

Hi Jim,

If he truly wanted to produce a professional product he would have been using 
at least a 645 for the group shots, an F5 is still 35mm no matter how many 
frames per second it can shoot whist multi-point colour matrix metering :-)

Practically any quality 35mm camera especially fully manual could be used quite 
successfully for the individual player shots however a winder of some sort 
would be advantageous.

Cheers,

Rob Studdert
HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA
Tel +61-2-9554-4110
UTC(GMT)  +10 Hours
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http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications.html




Re: Professional Gear

2002-09-21 Thread Butch Black

It could also be that he got the F5 with a consumer grade zoom, or worse yet
a G lens. Nikon's consumer grade zooms range from ok to poor and the G in G
lens stands for garbage.

 also confided that he had recently inherited his late father-in-law's
 K1000 and 50mm lens and, in lowered tones, was surprised that
 he could
 get better pictures with it than with his new F5. Go figure.


BUTCH

Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself
Hermann Hesse (Demian)