Re: PESO: Queen for a day
On 5/14/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Frank, I haven't noticed the post 'til u mentioned it, thanks for that Dave, Dave, Rick Christian, thanks for the comments. Christian, I hope you didn't take my answer the wrong way, I didn't have a good day today and gave a direct answer to a direct question... Anyway, after that rant I'm too embarased to post anything, so I'm out of the peso business, I'll find other venues for my photos. Apologies. Don't be silly! You've shown many terrific photos - I for one would be most disappointed if you choose not to share those with us. Don't worry about Christian. He doesn't even use Pentax anymore... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Queen for a day
frank theriault wrote: Don't worry about Christian. He doesn't even use Pentax anymore... :-P I still use my Optios! -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/15/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frank theriault wrote: Don't worry about Christian. He doesn't even use Pentax anymore... :-P I still use my Optios! Whatever... ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Queen for a day
On 5/14/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Frank, I haven't noticed the post 'til u mentioned it, thanks for that Dave, Dave, Rick Christian, thanks for the comments. Christian, I hope you didn't take my answer the wrong way, I didn't have a good day today and gave a direct answer to a direct question... Anyway, after that rant I'm too embarased to post anything, so I'm out of the peso business, I'll find other venues for my photos. Apologies. Don't do that Sir. No one likes mine, and i still antagonize the list with them.:-) We learn from our booboo's Dave Aloha, Fernando On 5/14/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/12/07, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o My biggest problem is that lightpost growing out of her shoulder. I find it very distracting. And ditto the darkness and contrast problems that everyone else mentioned. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Why do I feel I'm 5 back again... Anyway, the thing is that I still like the shot, but I might have posted it to quickly, I'll revisit it in couple of months to see if still like it or this whole thing is just a product of a chemical imbalance. When I read back these emails I realize I put some extra emphasis in Christian's question (stupid voiceless internet) and well, reacted like a pig heading to the slaughterhouse. On 5/15/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't be silly! You've shown many terrific photos You mean the links that I posted ;o) ? - I for one would be most disappointed if you choose not to share those with us. Really, thanks for that. Don't worry about Christian. He doesn't even use Pentax anymore... oohhh, so why am I listening him then? ;-) -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/15/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I read back these emails I realize I put some extra emphasis in Christian's question (stupid voiceless internet) and well, reacted like a pig heading to the slaughterhouse. snip Now you know you're really a PDML lister! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/15/07, David J Brooks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip No one likes mine, and i still antagonize the list with them.:-) We learn from our booboo's Thanks Dave, actually, I found a techi-booboo, when I copied my BW conversion from 16 to 8 bits I did it over a BW jpeg not color jpeg and that shifted the whole histogram to the left, I guess I didn't want to see it dark... -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Because I compared myself to a pig ;o) On 5/15/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/15/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip When I read back these emails I realize I put some extra emphasis in Christian's question (stupid voiceless internet) and well, reacted like a pig heading to the slaughterhouse. snip Now you know you're really a PDML lister! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/15/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I compared myself to a pig ;o) Nah. I'm just funnin' with ya, Fernando! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I know, I know, I was just kidding On 5/15/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/15/07, Fernando [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because I compared myself to a pig ;o) Nah. I'm just funnin' with ya, Fernando! ;-) cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/13/07, Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fernando, please don't take this the wrong way, I don't but this is the type of street shot I just don't get. It's a woman's back as she enters a limo... ok? now what? Slice of life scene? What can I say, I just saw something and pressed the little doohickey ;-) Like a joke, there's no grace in explaining a shot, right? The short answer is that I like it, the long, well, I was strolling down Queen St. on Saturday morning and while I was passing by Toronto's City Hall I see a woman, 2 meters from where I am, entering into a limo, surrounded by three guys, that looked like a Three Stooges version of a bodyguard group, kinda mafia like, and with sunglasses. She wasn't obviously getting maried, just getting into a limo walking a red carpet, and it just spured my curiosity and the whole scene looked funny to me, I took a quick picture with the wideangle prime and the k10d that I'm carrying all the time with me, and kept walking. One of a guys problably saw me, but I didn't care. So I guess, I am just appealing to your curiosity, the same one that I felt when I was there, the wideangle look I like because instead of detaching you with a tele 'voyeuristic' look I am just trying to put you there where I was. And not that much to more say. It just lacks interest for me. Judging for the number of comments it collected here at PDML you are not alone my man ;-) Funny thing is that the next day I posted this photo it got accepted in a heavily curated pool of street images that I like (my first one): http://www.flickr.com/groups/onthestreet/pool/ the Hardcore Street Photography ooohhh ;-) (who knows for how long because the admins of that group usually go back and review old images), nothing really important, but this was a little personal milestone that I was looking for, since I started trying this street stuff a month ago or so. Anyway, in a month from now I could be hating this image anyway, I just don't have the time to dedicate to this the way I should, letting these images decant for a year and reviewing them with no attachment at all, so sending these photos to groups is a quick reality check, that's all. This doesn't mean that I dump my memory cards to the internet, I still try to detach myself from the emotions I felt and select images that I find interesting, but I just found that this is more difficult in this type of photography, you see, there's this thing of facing your fears, in the end you are next to a stranger, taking a photograph, trying to capture a candid moment, and you don't know how that person might react. I don't want to shoot from the hip because it's just too miss and hit, neither I hide what I'm doing, I just do it quickly, most of the time no one sees me, but if I'm seen I just smile. So all this macho game for a shy guy like me just triggers extra emotions I guess, and makes it harder to forget that moment when I took that shot. Then again, my birds might be dull and boring to you. Not even close my friend, let me refresh your memory, this is an extract from one of your last PESO's: Fernando: Great photo Christian!! Sharp, nice light, I like it. I'm amazed by your wildlife photography. And that's sincere man, I like the stuff you do, the fact that I'm trying this now doesn't preclude me from liking your work, just like I can enjoy Beethoven, The Police, Nirvana and Iron Maiden, I just switch on and off different mechanisms in my brain I guess. Just like I didn't like beer the first time I tried it, the first time I saw this kind of difficult-to-like street photo in photo.net, from a guy named Andy something, I disliked it, and kept watching his portfolio because I couldn't believe this guy, sending this snapshots, and acting so cocky and confident about it, until I saw an image that wow'ed me, and then I kept reading, and watching photos, and reading, and well, I developed a taste for this stuff. Anyway, this long reply is here, because I think, that your words but this is the TYPE of 'street' shot I just don't 'get'. Had and extra meaning over a simple criticism to a simple image destined to fade away just like some of the other so many PESO's that die alone here at PDML, if I was right and you really are just a little bit curious about this stuff, and you only have to time to read one of the links that I'm posting, try this one: http://2point8.whileseated.org/?p=57 If you are still reading this and I haven't kill you by boredom, please don't judge this genre by my photos, as I said, I'm just starting, but take a look at these guys (no one is famous BTW): http://www.flickr.com/photos/mecan/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/hinius/ This one used a pentax+da21 for a while but now is shooting film: http://www.flickr.com/photos/shveckle/ And this guy is living in Tokyo and had a series of photos taken with a Mamiya Press camera at night (yep with a big bulbe flash) that I find interesting:
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Sorry sir, but i have to agree on the to much contrast/dark comments. Dave On 5/13/07, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ditto what Rick said. Cheers, Dave On 5/13/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This image seems to have too much contrast, and to be too dark to be effective. Rick --- Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o Comments, tips, pointers, all appreciated. Cheers, Fernando -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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On 5/12/07, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o My biggest problem is that lightpost growing out of her shoulder. I find it very distracting. And ditto the darkness and contrast problems that everyone else mentioned. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: PESO: Queen for a day
Thanks Frank, I haven't noticed the post 'til u mentioned it, thanks for that Dave, Dave, Rick Christian, thanks for the comments. Christian, I hope you didn't take my answer the wrong way, I didn't have a good day today and gave a direct answer to a direct question... Anyway, after that rant I'm too embarased to post anything, so I'm out of the peso business, I'll find other venues for my photos. Apologies. Aloha, Fernando On 5/14/07, frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/12/07, Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o My biggest problem is that lightpost growing out of her shoulder. I find it very distracting. And ditto the darkness and contrast problems that everyone else mentioned. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fernando wrote: Thanks Frank, I haven't noticed the post 'til u mentioned it, thanks for that Dave, Dave, Rick Christian, thanks for the comments. Christian, I hope you didn't take my answer the wrong way, I didn't have a good day today and gave a direct answer to a direct question... LOL... Still digesting it! I appreciated your comments to my comments and I'm happy to understand your thought/photographic process a little better now. Anyway, after that rant I'm too embarased to post anything, so I'm out of the peso business, I'll find other venues for my photos. Apologies. That's pretty darn silly! What are you apologizing for? do YOU like your picture? Of course you do and you wanted to share it on the list. So what if other people didn't give it overwhelming praise and throw roses at your feet! That should NEVER stop you from sharing images you are pleased with. If I don't see another PESO post from you soon, I'll be disappointed. Seeing different styles of photography is one benefit of this list. True I didn't get your shot, but after your comments i see what you are going for. Maybe the next one will appeal to me more. Maybe not. But who CARES what I think? No one! (except me about my OWN images; but that's another issue and one I'm seeing a specialist about g). Sometimes, however, a fresh view is a good way to improve your own skills. For example: I post some of the same images I post here to the Naturescapes.net forum. Those guys are brutal! But they have helped me improve my [EMAIL PROTECTED] skillz g as a bird photographer. If I were doing street photography I'd want Juan's, frank's or Ann's opinions because I respect their work and see that they have an eye for that sort of thing. Not to say that you don't, my opinion is based on a single image from you. And again, I don't KNOW that style of photography. Anyway, one rambling response deserves another. Don't stop posting PESOs, ok? -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Fernando Terrazzino wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o Comments, tips, pointers, all appreciated. Fernando, please don't take this the wrong way, but this is the type of street shot I just don't get. It's a woman's back as she enters a limo... ok? now what? Slice of life scene? It just lacks interest for me. Then again, my birds might be dull and boring to you. Also, as Rick and Dave mentioned, too dark. -- Christian http://photography.skofteland.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
PESO: Queen for a day
Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o Comments, tips, pointers, all appreciated. Cheers, Fernando -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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This image seems to have too much contrast, and to be too dark to be effective. Rick --- Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o Comments, tips, pointers, all appreciated. Cheers, Fernando -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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Ditto what Rick said. Cheers, Dave On 5/13/07, Rick Womer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This image seems to have too much contrast, and to be too dark to be effective. Rick --- Fernando Terrazzino [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Snapshot from today, still having trouble composing quickly, I'll try not to rush that much next time, an extra pause, half a second, that's what I need. Anyway, she looked important enough to get a shot from her ;-) Location: Toronto Pentax k10D, DA21/3.2, BW in CS2 cropped to 8x10 http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=495528847size=o Comments, tips, pointers, all appreciated. Cheers, Fernando -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net http://www.photo.net/photos/RickW Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.php -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I really like the coney's I almost miss them. It was the one thing I craved when I came back home from detroit. Well maybe not. But I was 8months pregnant. :) sandy http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Queen For A Day Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:17:46 -0500 This is a crop, so it's actually shot from about a meter further away than it appears to be. I'll have to look at it again, but it felt better tight when I was processing it. Paul On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to disturb the balance of the shot. It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. Paul, I am with Frank here... A question for you, Paul... Did you have a chance to take a shot from, say a meter further away from the lady? Boris
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I hadn't had a coney in almost a year, but I had two yesterday. I think I'll wait at least another year before indulging again. But they were good in that sloppy coney way. Of course the truly good ones are too messy to pick up and eat and require a fork :-). Paul On Apr 2, 2006, at 6:47 AM, Sandra Hermann wrote: I really like the coney's I almost miss them. It was the one thing I craved when I came back home from detroit. Well maybe not. But I was 8months pregnant. :) sandy http://www.fotocommunity.com/pc/pc/mypics/698154 From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: PESO: Queen For A Day Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:17:46 -0500 This is a crop, so it's actually shot from about a meter further away than it appears to be. I'll have to look at it again, but it felt better tight when I was processing it. Paul On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to disturb the balance of the shot. It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. Paul, I am with Frank here... A question for you, Paul... Did you have a chance to take a shot from, say a meter further away from the lady? Boris
Re: PESO: Queen For A Day (a different frame)
Hi Boris, As I said in an earlier reply, I cropped the shot, because it looked unbalanced. Here's the next frame. She's posing now. Perhaps not as much fun as when she was preening. But she does still show that big toothy grin. http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4288507 On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to disturb the balance of the shot. It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. Paul, I am with Frank here... A question for you, Paul... Did you have a chance to take a shot from, say a meter further away from the lady? Boris
PESO: Queen For A Day
I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716
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Nice capture Paul, but a little soft in the focus on the face. Looks like the focus is somewhat behind her face (the crown looks in focus to me.) BTW, Mayor Kilpatrick, of Detroit, said recently one of the greatest things about Detroit was the ability to get a Coney Dog @ 2 AM. I think I'll pass. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Queen For A Day I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716
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Thanks for looking, Ken. I can handle a coney dog every now and then. But Kwami looks like he's a frequent customer. Blowing up the hi-res tiff, I can see that the eyes and the crown are both equally sharp or, if you will, equally soft. At 1/15th, there's probably a wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop perhaps, but the moment was quickly passing. Paul On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Nice capture Paul, but a little soft in the focus on the face. Looks like the focus is somewhat behind her face (the crown looks in focus to me.) BTW, Mayor Kilpatrick, of Detroit, said recently one of the greatest things about Detroit was the ability to get a Coney Dog @ 2 AM. I think I'll pass. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Queen For A Day I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716
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On 4/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716 It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. With all the build up in your description, I was expecting that something in the photo would be unique to Coneys - a hot dog, a menu on which we could read the name of the establishment; in fact I thought it would be a shot of her eating one (but perhaps it's not fair to talk of such expectations - I should just comment on the photo, no?). I do like the dynamics of the photo - nicely blurred bottom parts, the tilt. I also like the booth partitions in the background - it gives the photo a sense of place. So, it's a mixed one for me Paul. Maybe your body of work is generally so outstanding that you've spoiled me for anything less than outstanding from you! g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Paul Stenquist - I can handle a Coney dog every now and then. But Kwami looks like he's a frequent customer. I also like them but not @ 2AM in Detroit! Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Queen For A Day Thanks for looking, Ken. I can handle a coney dog every now and then. But Kwami looks like he's a frequent customer. Blowing up the hi-res tiff, I can see that the eyes and the crown are both equally sharp or, if you will, equally soft. At 1/15th, there's probably a wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop perhaps, but the moment was quickly passing. Paul On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:24 PM, Kenneth Waller wrote: Nice capture Paul, but a little soft in the focus on the face. Looks like the focus is somewhat behind her face (the crown looks in focus to me.) BTW, Mayor Kilpatrick, of Detroit, said recently one of the greatest things about Detroit was the ability to get a Coney Dog @ 2 AM. I think I'll pass. Kenneth Waller - Original Message - From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PESO: Queen For A Day I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716
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Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to disturb the balance of the shot. Paul On Apr 1, 2006, at 3:38 PM, frank theriault wrote: On 4/1/06, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I went into town this afternoon with my sister, who is visiting from Arizona. Since she never had a Detroit Coney Dog, I took her to what we call a Coney for lunch. Coneys sell hot dogs with chili on them and various other fattening things, like chili cheese fries and some Greek fast food like Gyros. They're a Detroit/Greek tradition. Anyway, there was a young lady there with her mother. The young lady was wearing a wedding veil. She's getting married later today and had gone to the city with her mom to have her hair done. They stopped for lunch at the Coney. I recorded the blessed event:-). FA 50/1.4, f3.5 @ 1/15th, ISO 400 http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=4285716 It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. With all the build up in your description, I was expecting that something in the photo would be unique to Coneys - a hot dog, a menu on which we could read the name of the establishment; in fact I thought it would be a shot of her eating one (but perhaps it's not fair to talk of such expectations - I should just comment on the photo, no?). I do like the dynamics of the photo - nicely blurred bottom parts, the tilt. I also like the booth partitions in the background - it gives the photo a sense of place. So, it's a mixed one for me Paul. Maybe your body of work is generally so outstanding that you've spoiled me for anything less than outstanding from you! g cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson
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On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: At 1/15th, there's probably a wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop perhaps, but the moment was quickly passing. That was the point I was wanting to make: at 1/15 I don't even bother to press the shutter with a 50 *on 135 film*. Hat off to you, Steady... Kostas (1/45, 1/30 on a very good day...)
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Thanks, Kostas. I do try to have my camera ready for the prevailing conditions. But If I see a shot, I press the shutter, and worry about the numbers afterward:-). Paul On Apr 1, 2006, at 5:19 PM, Kostas Kavoussanakis wrote: On Sat, 1 Apr 2006, Paul Stenquist wrote: At 1/15th, there's probably a wee bit of camera shake. Should have opened up a stop perhaps, but the moment was quickly passing. That was the point I was wanting to make: at 1/15 I don't even bother to press the shutter with a 50 *on 135 film*. Hat off to you, Steady... Kostas (1/45, 1/30 on a very good day...)
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Hi! Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to disturb the balance of the shot. It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. Paul, I am with Frank here... A question for you, Paul... Did you have a chance to take a shot from, say a meter further away from the lady? Boris
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This is a crop, so it's actually shot from about a meter further away than it appears to be. I'll have to look at it again, but it felt better tight when I was processing it. Paul On Apr 2, 2006, at 12:07 AM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! Thanks for looking, Frank. Maybe you had to be there :-). Actually, she's preening, patting her hair in place before I shoot. The menu is partly visible in the foreground, but including more of it seemed to disturb the balance of the shot. It's not working for me. For one thing, she looks like a beautiful young woman, but that's not a particularly flattering photo of her. Also, I'm not sure what she's doing with her right arm behind her head. Is she winding up to throw something? It's really hard to tell, especially in the context of a restaurant. Paul, I am with Frank here... A question for you, Paul... Did you have a chance to take a shot from, say a meter further away from the lady? Boris
