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on 2012-12-05 19:50 Mark Roberts wrote Thanks for all the help. I just don't think any of the approaches I've found so far is practical for my students you didn't say it was for your bloody _students_ i wouldn't have gone to the trouble for them ;?> -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Of course, since you're a studly bit-banger too, you could just create a little app with Automator that extracted the bits for you. Should take you about ten minutes. :-) -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Thanks for all the help. I just don't think any of the approaches I've > found so far is practical for my students - there's now way most of > them could even operate a command line tool. And I shudder at the > hassle of getting out IT people to install software on the machines in > our Mac lab. We'll just have to get them to check this stuff on a > Windows box when necessary. Well, since OS X doesn't use the OS/2 permissions data, it's probably irrelevant to worry about it on OS X. If the "embeddable" flag in the font info is there, try it and see what happens to documents in which you embed fonts. They should be embedded. Of course, I think it's sensible for you to teach those young whippersnappers how to use the Terminal for this kind of semi-pointless stuff. It doesn't take much in way of brains to use a command line like this, or use a HEX calculator to add offsets. It would do them good to understand there's more underneath the hood on their computers than their little minds currently can imagine. ;-) -- Godfrey "Hey you kids! Get off the grass!" -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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steve harley wrote:
>on 2012-12-05 14:59 Mark Roberts wrote
>> I just confirmed the behaviour I suspected. I copied three fonts with
>> different embeddability settings from my Windows machine to my Mac.
>> The Info in Mac showed all three as having the same value on the
>> "Embeddable" line ("yes"). I need a more detailed assessment than
>> that.
>
>yeah, i had a few brain cells tickling me about that OS X failing; there are
>several tools that can help but those that aren't command-line based are large
>apps (e.g. FontForge, which is free but hard to install); i think the
>straightest path for you is ttx, a command line tool which you can obtain most
>easily by installing Adobe's FDK (download link at bottom of EULA):
>
>
Thanks for all the help. I just don't think any of the approaches I've
found so far is practical for my students - there's now way most of
them could even operate a command line tool. And I shudder at the
hassle of getting out IT people to install software on the machines in
our Mac lab. We'll just have to get them to check this stuff on a
Windows box when necessary.
Thanks again for all the help, everyone.
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on 2012-12-05 14:59 Mark Roberts wrote
I just confirmed the behaviour I suspected. I copied three fonts with
different embeddability settings from my Windows machine to my Mac.
The Info in Mac showed all three as having the same value on the
"Embeddable" line ("yes"). I need a more detailed assessment than
that.
yeah, i had a few brain cells tickling me about that OS X failing; there are
several tools that can help but those that aren't command-line based are large
apps (e.g. FontForge, which is free but hard to install); i think the
straightest path for you is ttx, a command line tool which you can obtain most
easily by installing Adobe's FDK (download link at bottom of EULA):
(do read Read_Me_First.html)
once installed, you can start by inspecting fonts one at a time with this
pattern, which dumps the OS/2 table into a ".ttx" file in /tmp, then finds the
fsType line in that file:
ttx -d /tmp -t OS/2 /path/to/myfont.otf
grep fsType /tmp/myfont.ttx
differing from the technique Godfrey posted, the result value will be in
binary, rather than octal, so output of:
shows bit 3 is on (zero-based, read from the right); in the Microsoft table
Godfrey's friend noted, this means "editable embedding"; i also found i have
quite a few "free" fonts with no embedding restrictions:
i bet you are more interested in abnormal cases; so the following is how to
process a whole folder of fonts to find those with odd embedding bits; these
specific commands will inspect .ttf and .otf files in your "user" fonts folder:
ttx -d /tmp -t OS/2 ~/Library/Fonts/*.*tf
grep fsType /tmp/*.ttx | grep -Ev '(1000"|")' | open -tf
the result will display in TextEdit; in my case i have a large font library in
in my /Users/Shared folder, at different levels in the folder hierarchy, so i
ran a series of commands to process them all:
ttx -d /tmp -t OS/2 /Users/Shared/font\ library/*/*.*tf
ttx -d /tmp -t OS/2 /Users/Shared/font\ library/*/*/*.*tf
ttx -d /tmp -t OS/2 /Users/Shared/font\ library/*/*/*/*.*tf
[quitting after four more levels]
and then ran the grep command above; i learned that i have about 500 fonts with
other variations of the rightmost 4 bits; none use bits 8 or 9, but a few use
bit 0, which is supposed to be off limits
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On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac? Font embedding > falls into four categories: Installable, editable, view/printable and > non-embeddable. I would like to know which permissions level a font > has *before* using it in a document! I know how to do it in Windows > but haven't been able to find out how in Mac. > ... This is from the friend of mine who invented TrueType fonts ... I sent him Mark's question: ".. the font question, the embedding privileges are stored in a field in the font's OS/2 table. Since Apple doesn't use the OS/2 table, its documentation is a bit out of date. Here's a link to the MS page describing the fsType field (where the embedding info is stored): http://www.microsoft.com/typography/otspec/os2.htm#fst There are tools that can show this value and otherwise deal with it, but honestly, it's probably easier to just do it directly from the command line. Launch Terminal, and navigate to the directory containing the font in question. First, do this (this example uses a font called fred.ttf): $ xxd -l 64 -u fred.ttf This will produce a few lines of output, like this: 000: 0001 0012 0100 0004 0020 4F53 2F32 ... OS/2 010: 6926 F3EC 0001 56CC 0060 636D 6170 i&V`cmap 020: 8E1F 46FD 0001 07D4 05A6 6376 7420 ..F.cvt 030: 0023 0011 EEAC 0006 6665 6174 .#..feat See the end of the first line there, where it says OS/2? That's the directory entry for the OS/2 table. That tag comes first, then a 4-byte checksum, and then the 4-byte offset to the table, which is 0x000156CC here. The fsType field is always 8 bytes from the start of the OS/2 table, and extends for 2 bytes. Adding 8 to 0x000156CC we get 0x000156D4, which is the offset of our value. Look at it via this command: $ xxd -l 2 -s 0x156D4 -u fred.ttf This finally gives you the embedding value: 00156d4: .. You can interpret the bits via the documentation linked to above." Enjoy. -- Godfrey certifed geek worthy -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 5 December 2012 21:59, Mark Roberts wrote:
> Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>>steve harley wrote:
>>
>>>on 2012-12-05 12:50 Mark Roberts wrote
How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac?
>>>
>>>at the most basic level, assuming the font is already installed, open Font
>>>Book
>>>and select the font; the circle-i item in the toolbar will show you "info"
>>>including an Embeddable line; all the fonts i looked at say "Yes", so i can't
>>>tell how much detail there is when the answer is a "partial" yes
>>>
>>>let me know if that's not sufficient and i'll find you a good free tool (i'm
>>>a
>>>dormant font ninja)
>>
>>Yeah, that's all I've been able to find and it's too general: It's
>>very important to know what level of embeddability you're getting!
>>Something that reads the "ft_fsType" bits is what I really need.
>
> I just confirmed the behaviour I suspected. I copied three fonts with
> different embeddability settings from my Windows machine to my Mac.
> The Info in Mac showed all three as having the same value on the
> "Embeddable" line ("yes"). I need a more detailed assessment than
> that.
OSX seems to come with the freetype libraries already installed. Is
this CLI front end to that library any use?
http://code.google.com/p/freetype-py/
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Mark Roberts wrote:
>steve harley wrote:
>
>>on 2012-12-05 12:50 Mark Roberts wrote
>>> How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac?
>>
>>at the most basic level, assuming the font is already installed, open Font
>>Book
>>and select the font; the circle-i item in the toolbar will show you "info"
>>including an Embeddable line; all the fonts i looked at say "Yes", so i can't
>>tell how much detail there is when the answer is a "partial" yes
>>
>>let me know if that's not sufficient and i'll find you a good free tool (i'm
>>a
>>dormant font ninja)
>
>Yeah, that's all I've been able to find and it's too general: It's
>very important to know what level of embeddability you're getting!
>Something that reads the "ft_fsType" bits is what I really need.
I just confirmed the behaviour I suspected. I copied three fonts with
different embeddability settings from my Windows machine to my Mac.
The Info in Mac showed all three as having the same value on the
"Embeddable" line ("yes"). I need a more detailed assessment than
that.
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steve harley wrote: >on 2012-12-05 12:50 Mark Roberts wrote >> How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac? > >at the most basic level, assuming the font is already installed, open Font >Book >and select the font; the circle-i item in the toolbar will show you "info" >including an Embeddable line; all the fonts i looked at say "Yes", so i can't >tell how much detail there is when the answer is a "partial" yes > >let me know if that's not sufficient and i'll find you a good free tool (i'm a >dormant font ninja) Yeah, that's all I've been able to find and it's too general: It's very important to know what level of embeddability you're getting! Something that reads the "ft_fsType" bits is what I really need. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Darren Addy wrote: >Embedding in what type of DOCUMENT, Mark? The document type is irrelevant: It could be MS Word, Adobe Illustrator, etc. I need to find out how the fstype bits are set in the FONT file. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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on 2012-12-05 12:50 Mark Roberts wrote How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac? at the most basic level, assuming the font is already installed, open Font Book and select the font; the circle-i item in the toolbar will show you "info" including an Embeddable line; all the fonts i looked at say "Yes", so i can't tell how much detail there is when the answer is a "partial" yes let me know if that's not sufficient and i'll find you a good free tool (i'm a dormant font ninja) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Embedding in what type of DOCUMENT, Mark? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Darren Addy wrote: > >>On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Mark Roberts >>wrote: >>> How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac? Font embedding >>> falls into four categories: Installable, editable, view/printable and >>> non-embeddable. I would like to know which permissions level a font >>> has *before* using it in a document! I know how to do it in Windows >>> but haven't been able to find out how in Mac. >>> >>What type of document, Mark? > > TrueType or Open Type files. > > The flag is FT_FSTYPE — obviously, I could open the type file in a hex > editor and ascertain the setting, but that's not really practical when > reading through a list of fonts. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Darren Addy wrote: >On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Mark Roberts >wrote: >> How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac? Font embedding >> falls into four categories: Installable, editable, view/printable and >> non-embeddable. I would like to know which permissions level a font >> has *before* using it in a document! I know how to do it in Windows >> but haven't been able to find out how in Mac. >> >What type of document, Mark? TrueType or Open Type files. The flag is FT_FSTYPE obviously, I could open the type file in a hex editor and ascertain the setting, but that's not really practical when reading through a list of fonts. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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What type of document, Mark? On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:50 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > How can I check the embeddability of a font on a Mac? Font embedding > falls into four categories: Installable, editable, view/printable and > non-embeddable. I would like to know which permissions level a font > has *before* using it in a document! I know how to do it in Windows > but haven't been able to find out how in Mac. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 2010-02-04 12:19 , Mark Roberts wrote: Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? whatever is causing the problem is kicking in at the tail end of logging in the user session; at that point the OS has booted and the user session may be launching any "login items", so there are a few things you can try, in order of increasing complexity 1. restart holding the shift key; this turns a lot of optional stuff off; if the system reboots correctly, then you know it is either your account preferences or something that is launching automatically at startup, so step 2 is the first thing to try; if this restart still hangs, go to step 3 instead 2. review your login items; go to System Preferences > Accounts and click on the Login Items tab (it's a little different on older versions of the OS); review this list -- if you see anything that you recognize as unneeded, select it and click the minus buton and delete it; try restarting to see if that was the cure; if not, maybe there is still something in Login Items that is causing the hang; you may need one of these tools, so the real if you take it out of login items and that cures the problem, you may need to delete the preferences or reinstall that tool; describing how is beyond the scope of this help, so use your judgment 3. if still stuck, create a new user account: go to System Preferences > Accounts, click the lock and enter your password, and click the "+" below the account list; after you create a new account, choose Log Out from the Apple menu, then log into the new account -- if the problem has gone away, you can be sure it is somewhere in your regular account's preferences; probably the easiest thing to do is eliminate all Login items, or use the new account and start fresh (it may need new preferences for every application, including email, etc.) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Bad system install. Somethings been corrupted. If it were mine, with what I know of Mac OS X, I'd fix it. For a client, I'd backup their data and apps, reinstall the OS. On Thursday, February 4, 2010, Mark Roberts wrote: > Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my > office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just > before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel > power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've run across some PCS cards (is that the term?) that prevent a Mac from waking up. One was a SCSI card, the other was a Belkin USB or firewire card. Both required shutdown and restart if the computer went to sleepl On Feb 4, 2010, at 10:26 PM, Stan Halpin wrote: > Not sure of your question. When you say "won't boot" are you talking about a > system that is turned off, and now you are turning it on? One that is asleep > and you are waking it? One where one user is logged in, you are trying to > switch to a different user? Or one that is running, and you chose File Menu > Restart? > > If it is the later, I can say that since at least system 10.4.2 or so through > system 10.6.2, on a variety of laptops and desktops, I very seldom get a > clean system restart via menu selection. If I load system upgrades/patches > that require a restart, managed by the patch software, they likewise do not > restart produce a restart. Blue screen with spinning wheel. Since that is the > one and only issue I can remember having with Mac system software, I just use > the power button to do a hard startup, mutter a bit, and forget it until next > time. I have never seen any indication that there is any hardware, software, > or file corruption issues stemming from the use of the hard startup. > > stan > > On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my >> office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just >> before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel >> power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> PDML@pdml.net >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Not sure of your question. When you say "won't boot" are you talking about a system that is turned off, and now you are turning it on? One that is asleep and you are waking it? One where one user is logged in, you are trying to switch to a different user? Or one that is running, and you chose File Menu Restart? If it is the later, I can say that since at least system 10.4.2 or so through system 10.6.2, on a variety of laptops and desktops, I very seldom get a clean system restart via menu selection. If I load system upgrades/patches that require a restart, managed by the patch software, they likewise do not restart produce a restart. Blue screen with spinning wheel. Since that is the one and only issue I can remember having with Mac system software, I just use the power button to do a hard startup, mutter a bit, and forget it until next time. I have never seen any indication that there is any hardware, software, or file corruption issues stemming from the use of the hard startup. stan On Feb 4, 2010, at 11:19 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my > office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just > before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel > power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: "David J Brooks" Subject: Re: Question for Mac experts Do the second try first.?? Use the Windows system ? Dave On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That makes a certain kind of sense, sort of like I found my keys in the
last place I looked for them.
On 2/4/2010 1:21 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
Do the second try first.??
Dave
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my
office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just
before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel
power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions?
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Do the second try first.?? Dave On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my > office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just > before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel > power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That is not normal behavior. Macs wake up from sleep instantly when they are running properly (I re-start mine once a month, whether it needs it or not). Whenever something is wonky with one of our Macs, my first stop is the Disk Utilities program. Run Verify Disk, Repair Disk (if there are problems), and Repair Disk Permissions. I don't know what repairing permissions does, but it often straightens things out. Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW --- On Thu, 2/4/10, Mark Roberts wrote: > From: Mark Roberts > Subject: Question for Mac experts > To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" > Date: Thursday, February 4, 2010, 12:19 PM > Here at the college we have both Mac > and Windows systems. The Mac in my office won't ever boot > for me on the first try. It always locks up just before the > Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front > panel power switch. Second try always works. Any > suggestions? > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link > directly above and follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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> Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my > office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just > before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front > panel power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? Which Mac, which Mac OS? -- Jetzt kostenlos herunterladen: Internet Explorer 8 und Mozilla Firefox 3.5 - sicherer, schneller und einfacher! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Here at the college we have both Mac and Windows systems. The Mac in my office won't ever boot for me on the first try. It always locks up just before the Dock should appear and has to be re-booted via the front panel power switch. Second try always works. Any suggestions? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
