Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
The real test is how they appear in prints. Yes absolutely. My Epson 1290S is in for service at the moment though. How do you compare the sharpening in ACR to C1? I never seem to be able to get a truly sharp image using the controls in ACR, no big deal if I'm going to open the image in PS and use USM or Smart sharpen, but there would be an advantage for me at work if the image was truly sharp straight from the RAW conversion which I believe I can get from C1. For my own work I may still stick with ACR, I like the workflow from Bridge to ACR to PS and finally Iview Mediapro to catalogue everything. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
I bought a 2GB Sandisk extreme III card and with it came a cd with RescuePro and a license for registrering CaptureOne LE. As it doesn't support the pef of the K10D yet, I didn't look further into it. I am entitled to one upgrade, so I hope the next upgrade includes the support of the K10D for PEF files. Frits Wüthrich On Monday 08 January 2007 19:00, John Whittingham wrote: Has anybody tried Capture One Pro? There's a demo available, I was just wondering what the general opinions were. John --- - The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. --- - -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
I bought a 2GB Sandisk extreme III card and with it came a cd with RescuePro and a license for registrering CaptureOne LE. As it doesn't support the pef of the K10D yet, I didn't look further into it. I am entitled to one upgrade, so I hope the next upgrade includes the support of the K10D for PEF files. Frits Wüthrich Yes me too, I'm currently using the demo for my *istD pef files, initially it didn't seem as intuitive as ACR but I've got used to it somewhat after 2 days. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
I love using Capture One. I used to use BreezeBrowser for batch conversions, now I tend to use C1. It doesn't support the K10D pef and DNG yet, unfortunately. I have the LE version. Wendy On 1/8/07, John Whittingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anybody tried Capture One Pro? There's a demo available, I was just wondering what the general opinions were. John -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
I love using Capture One. I used to use BreezeBrowser for batch conversions, now I tend to use C1. It doesn't support the K10D pef and DNG yet, unfortunately. I have the LE version. Wendy Thanks Wendy, I seem to be able to get sharper images with C1 than with ACR, at least that's how they appear on the monitor. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
The real test is how they appear in prints. How do you compare the sharpening in ACR to C1? Shel [Original Message] From: John Whittingham Thanks Wendy, I seem to be able to get sharper images with C1 than with ACR, at least that's how they appear on the monitor. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
Hello John, I have used C1 for quite a long time. What I found was that it was very good for doing batches of images. If you were only going to do one or two, then some of the batch capabilities didn't really help much. It shines best when adjust the first image of a group of similar (WB, exposure, etc), then applying to the rest of the batch. After that, quickly clicking through each one and verifying your settings and possibly making a tweak here and there. -- Bruce Tuesday, January 9, 2007, 3:42:42 PM, you wrote: I love using Capture One. I used to use BreezeBrowser for batch conversions, now I tend to use C1. It doesn't support the K10D pef and DNG yet, unfortunately. I have the LE version. Wendy JW Thanks Wendy, I seem to be able to get sharper images with C1 than with ACR, JW at least that's how they appear on the monitor. JW John JW JW The information transmitted is intended only for the person JW to whom it is addressed and may contain JW confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received JW an email in error please notify Carmel College JW on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. JW Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails JW and email attachments for viruses we cannot JW guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor JW accept any responsibility for viruses. JW Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails JW for inappropriate content, the college cannot JW be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. JW The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel JW College and Carmel College cannot be held JW responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. JW -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
Thanks for the info - I'm heading out to the library this afternoon to check out Fraser's book. Thanks! Ed On 1/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also purchase Bruce Fraser's Real World Camera RAW. It was written with CS1 in mind, but it's quite a close match to Elements. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Hello Ed, If you're using Camera Raw with Photoshop Elements, most of the information from Bruce Fraser's excellent book, Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2, as pertains to RAW data theory and Camera Raw basic functions, and suggested operational use, will be very helpful to you. There's a lot of other stuff in there that is specific to PS CS2 and Bridge, but the book is well worth it for just those bits. Bruce's book will make clear the benefits and options available with RAW capture. You also have the option of giving Adobe Lightroom v4.1 beta a try ... it is available from http://labs.adobe.com/ free of charge while the beta period continues. There are a couple of video tutorials on workflow there as well. I use a slightly customized version of Bruce's suggested workflow with PSCS2 and Camera Raw. It works extremely well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
Has anybody tried Capture One Pro? There's a demo available, I was just wondering what the general opinions were. John The information transmitted is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. If you have received an email in error please notify Carmel College on [EMAIL PROTECTED] then delete all copies of it from your systems. Although Carmel College scans incoming and outgoing emails and email attachments for viruses we cannot guarantee a communication to be free of all viruses nor accept any responsibility for viruses. Although Carmel College monitors incoming and outgoing emails for inappropriate content, the college cannot be held responsible for the views or expressions of the author. The views expressed may not necessarily be those of Carmel College and Carmel College cannot be held responsible for any loss or injury resulting from the contents of a message. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
Ed - There are two versions of the book. It was rewritten when CS2 was released. GS On 1/8/07, Ed Keeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info - I'm heading out to the library this afternoon to check out Fraser's book. Thanks! Ed On 1/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also purchase Bruce Fraser's Real World Camera RAW. It was written with CS1 in mind, but it's quite a close match to Elements. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Hello Ed, If you're using Camera Raw with Photoshop Elements, most of the information from Bruce Fraser's excellent book, Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2, as pertains to RAW data theory and Camera Raw basic functions, and suggested operational use, will be very helpful to you. There's a lot of other stuff in there that is specific to PS CS2 and Bridge, but the book is well worth it for just those bits. Bruce's book will make clear the benefits and options available with RAW capture. You also have the option of giving Adobe Lightroom v4.1 beta a try ... it is available from http://labs.adobe.com/ free of charge while the beta period continues. There are a couple of video tutorials on workflow there as well. I use a slightly customized version of Bruce's suggested workflow with PSCS2 and Camera Raw. It works extremely well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
Yes, but I think the first edition is more applicable to Elements. Paul On Jan 8, 2007, at 9:34 PM, George Sinos wrote: Ed - There are two versions of the book. It was rewritten when CS2 was released. GS On 1/8/07, Ed Keeney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the info - I'm heading out to the library this afternoon to check out Fraser's book. Thanks! Ed On 1/6/07, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can also purchase Bruce Fraser's Real World Camera RAW. It was written with CS1 in mind, but it's quite a close match to Elements. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Hello Ed, If you're using Camera Raw with Photoshop Elements, most of the information from Bruce Fraser's excellent book, Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2, as pertains to RAW data theory and Camera Raw basic functions, and suggested operational use, will be very helpful to you. There's a lot of other stuff in there that is specific to PS CS2 and Bridge, but the book is well worth it for just those bits. Bruce's book will make clear the benefits and options available with RAW capture. You also have the option of giving Adobe Lightroom v4.1 beta a try ... it is available from http://labs.adobe.com/ free of charge while the beta period continues. There are a couple of video tutorials on workflow there as well. I use a slightly customized version of Bruce's suggested workflow with PSCS2 and Camera Raw. It works extremely well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- Thanks! Ed http://picasaweb.google.com/ewkphoto -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
Hello Ed, If you're using Camera Raw with Photoshop Elements, most of the information from Bruce Fraser's excellent book, Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2, as pertains to RAW data theory and Camera Raw basic functions, and suggested operational use, will be very helpful to you. There's a lot of other stuff in there that is specific to PS CS2 and Bridge, but the book is well worth it for just those bits. Bruce's book will make clear the benefits and options available with RAW capture. You also have the option of giving Adobe Lightroom v4.1 beta a try ... it is available from http://labs.adobe.com/ free of charge while the beta period continues. There are a couple of video tutorials on workflow there as well. I use a slightly customized version of Bruce's suggested workflow with PSCS2 and Camera Raw. It works extremely well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow (was: introduction)
You can also purchase Bruce Fraser's Real World Camera RAW. It was written with CS1 in mind, but it's quite a close match to Elements. Paul On Jan 6, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote: Hello Ed, If you're using Camera Raw with Photoshop Elements, most of the information from Bruce Fraser's excellent book, Real World Camera Raw with Photoshop CS2, as pertains to RAW data theory and Camera Raw basic functions, and suggested operational use, will be very helpful to you. There's a lot of other stuff in there that is specific to PS CS2 and Bridge, but the book is well worth it for just those bits. Bruce's book will make clear the benefits and options available with RAW capture. You also have the option of giving Adobe Lightroom v4.1 beta a try ... it is available from http://labs.adobe.com/ free of charge while the beta period continues. There are a couple of video tutorials on workflow there as well. I use a slightly customized version of Bruce's suggested workflow with PSCS2 and Camera Raw. It works extremely well. Godfrey -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
On 7/16/06, Bob W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. They both have their place. If I'm upsizing, I'll bring the file into ACR. I know there's a way of batching files for conversion in ACR but I haven't tried it. I use C1LE for that. I like the way I can individually tweak the conversion settings in C1 and also crop each image. Then I add each image to the queue and let the tool process the whole batch. -- Wendy Beard Ottawa Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
Can't say how they compare, but being a user of Capture One LE, I can give you my rough take. The first time I tried Capture One, I wasn't that excited about it. It seemed fine, but nothing out of the ordinary. What I had done, was taken just a couple of images and played around with it. It wasn't until later that I decided to give it one more go, that I worked on an entire family portrait session (about 70 frames) that I discovered where the real strength of it was. It is really designed as a batch system with fine controls. Converting one at a time, is no better than other tools. But when you load up a whole batch, then it starts to shine. Basically, by batch, I mean one photo session - so if you shoot portraits or weddings or events where you will have lots of pictures with pretty much the same lighting, you can pick the first one and get it adjusted, then select others with the same basic settings and apply all your changes to them. Then you can very quickly, click on each picture and see the adjustments on it and possibly override slightly. When you are ready, just have it convert them all and you are about done. When I started using it, Adobe didn't have their workflow down very well - much more disjointed and RSE and Bibble didn't exist. I think all the other players have put forth much better workflow than they did in the past, so the differences may be much smaller than they were when I started doing RAW in earnest. Since I do lots of event stuff where Capture One is such a natural, as I have looked at the others, they haven't had anything that made me want to change. I can say that if I were shooting in a more casual way (smaller groups of similar shots), that one of the other products might have a better workflow for that. I seem to recall that RSE had some kind of quick grading system for you to quickly sort the best from the medium to bad and then work within those sortings. Anyway, I hope this helps you along. -- Best regards, Bruce Sunday, July 16, 2006, 3:04:56 AM, you wrote: BW Hi, BW how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) BW as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I BW haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture BW One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. BW One thing I don't much like about it is that it only reads RAW, not BW TIFF as far as I can tell. This is a disadvantage for me because I BW have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format, BW and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I BW don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different BW things just because the pictures come from a different source. BW So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW? BW -- BW Thanks, BW Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
On Jul 17, 2006, at 9:26 AM, wendy beard wrote: I know there's a way of batching files for conversion in ACR but I haven't tried it. I use C1LE for that. I like the way I can individually tweak the conversion settings in C1 and also crop each image. Then I add each image to the queue and let the tool process the whole batch. ACR used with Photoshop CS2 and Bridge allow you to do essentially the exact same thing. G -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RAW workflow
Hi, how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. One thing I don't much like about it is that it only reads RAW, not TIFF as far as I can tell. This is a disadvantage for me because I have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format, and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different things just because the pictures come from a different source. So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW? -- Thanks, Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
Adobe Camera Raw does not work on TIFF files either. No RAW converter does. Vuescan's TIFF RAW files are fundamentally different from digital camera RAW files in that they are already RGB files, they simply haven't been gamma corrected and color adjusted/inverted for film characteristics. The operations required are quite different from what is done to a digital camera's RAW capture output. I find it much more useful to use Vuescan including the basic scan corrections and output TIFF files for further adjustment in Photoshop CS2. In other words, my workflow from scanned film and digital capture intersect after the RAW conversion phase. I tried an eval of Capture One LE but preferred the options of using Photoshop CS2 + Bridge + Camera Raw. I also keep experimenting with the Adobe Lightroom beta ... it might pose a workflow solution that is appealing by the time it is finished. For best understanding of RAW workflow with Photoshop CS2, read Bruce Fraser's excellent Real World Camera One with Photoshop CS2. It will save weeks to months of experimentation time in learning. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Bob W wrote: how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. One thing I don't much like about it is that it only reads RAW, not TIFF as far as I can tell. This is a disadvantage for me because I have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format, and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different things just because the pictures come from a different source. So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RAW workflow
No ... it's a RAW converter and TIFF files are not RAW files. The advantage of ACR is that it's integrated into PS, so it's not as though you're using two different programs, but different modules of the same program. The user interface with ACR and PS is very similar, and, at least from my POV, I don't see myself doing significantly different things when working of scanned TIFF files or RAW files. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format, and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different things just because the pictures come from a different source. So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Re: RAW workflow
I'll second that for the umpteenth time only because I know there are those here who have not read the book and who complain about the extra time and difficulty involved in processing RAW files. And, for those using PS CS, there's Real World Camera RAW with Photoshop CS. Shel [Original Message] From: Godfrey DiGiorgi For best understanding of RAW workflow with Photoshop CS2, read Bruce Fraser's excellent Real World Camera One with Photoshop CS2. It will save weeks to months of experimentation time in learning. Godfrey On Jul 16, 2006, at 3:04 AM, Bob W wrote: how does Capture One LE compare with ACR? I don't have PS CS2 (yet?) as I'm still looking at the various options that are available. So I haven't used ACR, but I have downloaded the trial version of Capture One LE and it seems at first glance to be pretty good. One thing I don't much like about it is that it only reads RAW, not TIFF as far as I can tell. This is a disadvantage for me because I have a lot of film to scan, which I save in Vuescan's raw TIFF format, and then use the same workflow for both camera and scanned inputs - I don't want to be switching tools and doing significantly different things just because the pictures come from a different source. So, does ACR read and operate on TIFFs as well as RAW? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RAW workflow
I intend to buy it. In fact, I browsed through it in Foyles today, along with a couple of other Raw books. I didn't buy it today because it was the CS, not CS2, version. Probably doesn't make much difference, but I'd like to have matching versions. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16 July 2006 16:18 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: RAW workflow I'll second that for the umpteenth time only because I know there are those here who have not read the book and who complain about the extra time and difficulty involved in processing RAW files. And, for those using PS CS, there's Real World Camera RAW with Photoshop CS. Shel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RAW workflow
Makes a ~big~ difference. The CS version doesn't cover Bridge, which is a major difference between CS and CS2. Plus there are different features in the ACR converter - more features in the CS2 versions. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W I intend to buy it. In fact, I browsed through it in Foyles today, along with a couple of other Raw books. I didn't buy it today because it was the CS, not CS2, version. Probably doesn't make much difference, but I'd like to have matching versions. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
RE: RAW workflow
Ah! Good job I didn't buy it then! Ta. -- Cheers, Bob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shel Belinkoff Sent: 16 July 2006 17:39 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: RAW workflow Makes a ~big~ difference. The CS version doesn't cover Bridge, which is a major difference between CS and CS2. Plus there are different features in the ACR converter - more features in the CS2 versions. Shel [Original Message] From: Bob W I intend to buy it. In fact, I browsed through it in Foyles today, along with a couple of other Raw books. I didn't buy it today because it was the CS, not CS2, version. Probably doesn't make much difference, but I'd like to have matching versions. -- -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
Raw Workflow Whitepapers (was: USAF target and resolution tests)
On 4 Nov 2004 at 21:58, Shel Belinkoff wrote: I'm saying that, from what I've seen of high bit RAW files, yes, I believe they can. Again, take my comments with a grain of salt (and note the qualifiers) as I'm still just learning this stuff, and have just started to work with digi RAW files. Remember, digital can be very well matched with the scene, and there's control for manipulation throughout the workflow. Shel there are some pertinent articles at the following site: http://www.rawformat.com/ Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
C1 RAW Workflow v3.5, with Pentax Raw support
Due to be released later today, apparently: http://www.rawworkflow.com/ Hmm, there's a 15 day trial download. Definitely worth a look I'd think. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software
RE: C1 RAW Workflow v3.5, with Pentax Raw support
Yep, and so will the $300 or $400 they will want for it! Cheers Shaun -Original Message- From: Peter Loveday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2004 7:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: C1 RAW Workflow v3.5, with Pentax Raw support Due to be released later today, apparently: http://www.rawworkflow.com/ Hmm, there's a 15 day trial download. Definitely worth a look I'd think. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software
RE: C1 RAW Workflow v3.5, with Pentax Raw support
From dpreview: Those of you have waiting anxiously for C1-LE, you will find some bad news regarding today's update to version 3.5. The product no longer supports 16-bit output. You might want to add your voice to the storm of protest, as I have: As a Pentax *ist-D user, I was looking forward to purchasing C1LE in v3.5. It is difficult, though, to swallow the increase from $99 to $249 (for the C1-SE version) when the Pentax converter already supports full 16-bit TIF output. Some folks will make due with Pentax to Picture Window Pro. Others will probably come to the conclusion that they should just bite the bullet and go with PS-CS. From a marketing standpoint, wouldn't Phase 1 do better making 1,000 $99 sales rather than 100 $249 sales? Bottom line, folks who are interested in the quality step up promised by C1 are never going to be satisfied with the quality sacrifices inherent in 8-bit output. http://www.pictureflow.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4160; -Original Message- From: Peter Loveday [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 May 2004 12:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: C1 RAW Workflow v3.5, with Pentax Raw support Due to be released later today, apparently: http://www.rawworkflow.com/ Hmm, there's a 15 day trial download. Definitely worth a look I'd think. Love, Light and Peace, - Peter Loveday Director of Development, eyeon Software
Re: C1 RAW Workflow v3.5, with Pentax Raw support
On 28 May 2004 at 7:49, Peter Loveday wrote: Either way, I don't have a problem with the cost. I have no feel for how good this software is yet, not having used it. But it seems unlikely they could market a product that does nothing but raw conversion and have it be as bad as Photoshop CS's raw convertor. If it is good, it is worth paying for in its own right. Would I pay $250 for a good sharp lens to improve my image quality, or a good tripod? Hell yes.. Because its a software tool, rather than a piece of physical equipment, seems to somehow devalue it. As far as I'm concerned, if it can improve the quality of a picture, then its a tool like any other. And I can garruntee no one will be offering me an upgrade on my lens to something faster or better for $50 next year, either :) What I have a problem with is what can only be construed as deliberate under engineering or disabling so as to provide a path to future revenues. The *ist D stinks of this a little. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
