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That's always sucky. Feel better, Frank. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
Very, very glad to know it wasn't worse. I recommend seeking refuge in booze for the next couple of days. -- Walt On 9/21/2012 11:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... bad luck - glad it wasn't worse, and glad the bike has survived. How did the collision happen? I haven't been able to ride my bike, or jog or take any exercise for over a month. My plans to cycle to Paris and back had to be scrapped and I went by train. My physio told me this week that the problem I have is tarsal tunnel syndrome - it's the same thing that I thought was gout last year when it coincided with a kidney stone (gout and kidney stones have the same root cause). Anyway, now that we know what it is it can be treated properly and I can take steps (literally) to avoid a repetition, and the physio treatment is improving it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 21, 2012, at 9:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Let me guess, the driver didn't see you and turned right in front of you. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). Better luck next time. Better yet, no next time. X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. I can empathize. I banged my shoulder up pretty seriously in a motorcycle getoff some years back. I self medicated with single malt that night. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ah crap. Be careful, Frank. Partially torn rotator cuffs can become dangerous if you don't rest up. Are you going for cortisone? On 22/09/2012 2:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I prescribe ibuprofen and beer. Hope you feel better soon! (Is it every 2 years you have one of these incidents?) Cheers, Rick http://photo.net/photos/RickW - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 12:33 AM Subject: OT - Minor Cycling Incident Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry to hear, Frank. Hope that pain is very temporary. Paul On Sep 22, 2012, at 12:33 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Do recover fully and soon, Frank. Did you manage to get the details of the car? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:33 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ouch!! Hope you're right handed. I am and I had my right rotator cuff repaired a couple years ago. It was probably two months before I could raise and hold a camera to my eye. Jack Davis http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/jackdavis http://www.photolightimages.com/ - Original Message - From: knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com To: PDML@pdml.net Cc: Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 9:33 PM Subject: OT - Minor Cycling Incident Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ouch, but glad your ok. I ride in relatively quiet areas and still have close calls, so i can just imagine riding in Toronto Dave On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 12:33 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Frank, Get well soon! Don't force it, let it heal properly. Rotator cuff is a serious issue. One of my colleagues had to undergo a surgery for those last year, and his recovery was about half a year. Igor -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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How did the collision happen? The short version: Riding in the right lane of a four lane street. Just behind an suv. He stops but I don't have a chance to react - from where I was I didn't notice his brake lights. Before I know it an oncoming vehicle turns left in front of suv and in front of me. Turns out the suv waved him across. Because the suv was so large he blocked my view of turning car (and car's view of me). I slammed on brakes too late; t-boned him on the passenger door. Luckily I did have the chance to apply some brake and I also turned to the right. Meant that the front wheel and handlebars took most of the force and not the fork or frame. Yay! The sorest part of me is right where my messenger bag strap sits atop my shoulder so I don't know if the most serious of my injuries was from my shoulder ramming his car or the force of my bag full of groceries yanking down as I landed on my back on the pavement. Car got charged with illegal left, I got charged with illegal pass on right and I will fight it (brief research indicates I have a very good case - won't bore you with details). The car driver was very nice, apologetic and offered to pay to fix my bike (which as it turns out only needs the front wheel trued - less than $10 and I am not going to ask him for that small amount. Ashamed that we both got charged imho. He made a mistake and was apologetic and I know he learned his lesson. I did nothing wrong. Silly to make us both go through all of this... Anyway, that's that. I will heal and all will be good again. Sorry to hear of your injuries, Bob. Middle age is so much fun! ;-) One thing I notice is that I take much longer to heal now than when I was younger. That being said, here's to both of us being back on the road soon! I will answer a few more posts on this thread, but in the interest of list brevity, not all of them. I would, however like to thank each and every one of you for your thoughts and support. It means a lot to me. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... bad luck - glad it wasn't worse, and glad the bike has survived. How did the collision happen? I haven't been able to ride my bike, or jog or take any exercise for over a month. My plans to cycle to Paris and back had to be scrapped and I went by train. My physio told me this week that the problem I have is tarsal tunnel syndrome - it's the same thing that I thought was gout last year when it coincided with a kidney stone (gout and kidney stones have the same root cause). Anyway, now that we know what it is it can be treated properly and I can take steps (literally) to avoid a repetition, and the physio treatment is improving it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Yeah, it could be a lot worse. If it happened here in the states you'd be dealing with trying to figure out how to pay for treatment. Hope you're feeling better soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry to hear of your injuries, Bob. Middle age is so much fun! ;-) Damn right - and I've only just got there! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-19622330 Thanks. Shame that they're charging you both. Shit happens - you see it all the time commuting in London, but when someone is genuinely guilty they seem to get away with it. B -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: 22 September 2012 15:06 To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident How did the collision happen? The short version: Riding in the right lane of a four lane street. Just behind an suv. He stops but I don't have a chance to react - from where I was I didn't notice his brake lights. Before I know it an oncoming vehicle turns left in front of suv and in front of me. Turns out the suv waved him across. Because the suv was so large he blocked my view of turning car (and car's view of me). I slammed on brakes too late; t-boned him on the passenger door. Luckily I did have the chance to apply some brake and I also turned to the right. Meant that the front wheel and handlebars took most of the force and not the fork or frame. Yay! The sorest part of me is right where my messenger bag strap sits atop my shoulder so I don't know if the most serious of my injuries was from my shoulder ramming his car or the force of my bag full of groceries yanking down as I landed on my back on the pavement. Car got charged with illegal left, I got charged with illegal pass on right and I will fight it (brief research indicates I have a very good case - won't bore you with details). The car driver was very nice, apologetic and offered to pay to fix my bike (which as it turns out only needs the front wheel trued - less than $10 and I am not going to ask him for that small amount. Ashamed that we both got charged imho. He made a mistake and was apologetic and I know he learned his lesson. I did nothing wrong. Silly to make us both go through all of this... Anyway, that's that. I will heal and all will be good again. Sorry to hear of your injuries, Bob. Middle age is so much fun! ;-) One thing I notice is that I take much longer to heal now than when I was younger. That being said, here's to both of us being back on the road soon! I will answer a few more posts on this thread, but in the interest of list brevity, not all of them. I would, however like to thank each and every one of you for your thoughts and support. It means a lot to me. Cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: Bob W p...@web-options.com Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12 To: 'Pentax-Discuss Mail List' pdml@pdml.net Subject: RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... bad luck - glad it wasn't worse, and glad the bike has survived. How did the collision happen? I haven't been able to ride my bike, or jog or take any exercise for over a month. My plans to cycle to Paris and back had to be scrapped and I went by train. My physio told me this week that the problem I have is tarsal tunnel syndrome - it's the same thing that I thought was gout last year when it coincided with a kidney stone (gout and kidney stones have the same root cause). Anyway, now that we know what it is it can be treated properly and I can take steps (literally) to avoid a repetition, and the physio treatment is improving it. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from
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Absolutely! As a cyclist I seem to make good use of our healthcare system! ;-) Of course the flip side is that as a very fit individual I tend not to get sick and with my healthy ticker will likely live a long, illness-free life, so in the long run I'd like to think that I'll be less taxing (pun intended) on our system than most. Whenever Americans get into the debate about universal healthcare some point to the flaws in our system, most of which have to do with wait times (including emergency room line ups). Yes, it was busy last night (Friday nights tend to be a busy time) but you know what? I was there for about 2 1/2 hours. In at 7:30 out at 10:00. That's registration, triage, a nurse for initial interview and vitals, first interview with doctor, x-rays and assessment/follow up chat with doctor. Quite incredible, actually. In maybe a half dozen emergency room visits over the past decade on one occasion I spent 12 hours on a very busy night when my hospital was the designated trauma centre for the region. I understand triage and accept that delay. Otherwise I don't think I've spent more than 4 hours in emergency, 3 hours being closer to my average. Our system works very well for acute situations. I admit that I have heard of (but not directly experienced) some horror stories wrt surgery wait times. Cheers, frank (always ready to sound the trumpet wrt our universal healthcare system) What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident Yeah, it could be a lot worse. If it happened here in the states you'd be dealing with trying to figure out how to pay for treatment. Hope you're feeling better soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/22/12 12:33 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. yeah, there's a lot of left turning going on after the week Mitt Romney had. Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Try the veal! But seriously, Frank, take care of that shoulder. Once you damage things having to do with your joints, it's a slog to get them right again. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Well, as long as the bike's ok -- glad you have your priorities straight :-) You're not a kid anymore, Frank - don't panic if you hurt for a couple of weeks instead of a couple of days... Poor you -- I know how much that hurts - just take good care and don't be macho hugs, ann On 9/22/2012 00:33, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Absolutely! As a cyclist I seem to make good use of our healthcare system! ;-) [...] Our system works very well for acute situations. I admit that I have heard of (but not directly experienced) some horror stories wrt surgery wait times. ours is pretty good at that, too - they were brilliant at treating my wrist when I broke it - and at the other extreme of dealing with things like cancer. As a family we've easily had our money's worth out of the system for cancer treatments. Where it's a bit crap is in dealing with some of the middling stuff. I saw about 6 different GPs over several years before one of them finally referred me to an ENT specialist when I was first dealing with cholesteatoma. Meanwhile each of them came up with different wrong diagnoses and treatments. Once I had the referral everything went brilliantly, luckily, otherwise I'd be dead by now. Similarly, I've been having these foot problems periodically for 3 or 4 years now, and it's only by by-passing my GP and going straight to a private physiotherapist that I've actually been given a diagnosis and some treatment that makes sense. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
He's a Canadian, they'll bill the Canadian health system. On 9/22/2012 10:14 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Yeah, it could be a lot worse. If it happened here in the states you'd be dealing with trying to figure out how to pay for treatment. Hope you're feeling better soon. -- Don't lose heart, they might want to cut it out, and they'll want to avoid a lengthly search. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
Sorry you got injured Frank. Glad it wasn't worse. Without wishing to sound pedantic, may I remind you of the Pauli Principle and it's application in everyday life... two solid objects cannot occupy the same place in the same time. :) Glad you're OK. Tom C. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C Sorry you got injured Frank. Glad it wasn't worse. Without wishing to sound pedantic, may I remind you of the Pauli Principle and it's application in everyday life... two solid objects cannot occupy the same place in the same time. :) Glad you're OK. You sure about that? I thought the Paulie Principle was somewhat different. I thought the Paulie Principle was But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week, no matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me. Wiseguy, huh? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
Sorry to hear this Frank. Shoulder injuries like that can hurt for a while. Hopefully thye at least gave you some meds for sleeping. Maybe a sling while you are off the bike? On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C Sorry you got injured Frank. Glad it wasn't worse. Without wishing to sound pedantic, may I remind you of the Pauli Principle and it's application in everyday life... two solid objects cannot occupy the same place in the same time. :) Glad you're OK. You sure about that? I thought the Paulie Principle was somewhat different. I thought the Paulie Principle was But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week, no matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me. Wiseguy, huh? B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
You are confusing the Pauli exclusion principle with the Paulie extortion principle. Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Tom C Sorry you got injured Frank. Glad it wasn't worse. Without wishing to sound pedantic, may I remind you of the Pauli Principle and it's application in everyday life... two solid objects cannot occupy the same place in the same time. :) Glad you're OK. You sure about that? I thought the Paulie Principle was somewhat different. I thought the Paulie Principle was But now the guy's gotta come up with Paulie's money every week, no matter what. Business bad? Fuck you, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? Fuck you, pay me. Place got hit by lightning, huh? Fuck you, pay me. Wiseguy, huh? B -- Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
Sorry to hear that - hope you are feeling better! Mark On 9/22/2012 12:33 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
Sorry to hear about this Frank. Give it time to mend! That joint is tricky. stan On Sep 22, 2012, at 10:58 AM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely! As a cyclist I seem to make good use of our healthcare system! ;-) Of course the flip side is that as a very fit individual I tend not to get sick and with my healthy ticker will likely live a long, illness-free life, so in the long run I'd like to think that I'll be less taxing (pun intended) on our system than most. Whenever Americans get into the debate about universal healthcare some point to the flaws in our system, most of which have to do with wait times (including emergency room line ups). Yes, it was busy last night (Friday nights tend to be a busy time) but you know what? I was there for about 2 1/2 hours. In at 7:30 out at 10:00. That's registration, triage, a nurse for initial interview and vitals, first interview with doctor, x-rays and assessment/follow up chat with doctor. Quite incredible, actually. In maybe a half dozen emergency room visits over the past decade on one occasion I spent 12 hours on a very busy night when my hospital was the designated trauma centre for the region. I understand triage and accept that delay. Otherwise I don't think I've spent more than 4 hours in emergency, 3 hours being closer to my average. Our system works very well for acute situations. I admit that I have heard of (but not directly experienced) some horror stories wrt surgery wait times. Cheers, frank (always ready to sound the trumpet wrt our universal healthcare system) What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens --- Original Message --- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sent: September 22, 2012 9/22/12 To: pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident Yeah, it could be a lot worse. If it happened here in the states you'd be dealing with trying to figure out how to pay for treatment. Hope you're feeling better soon. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
on 2012-09-21 22:33 knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. yow! sounds like you are still playing it back in your mind be patient and diligent with your recovery; i had bilateral frozen shoulder two years ago, and it took manipulation under anesthesia plus intensive physical therapy to get me close to normal after about 9 months; it was a long haul and hard to keep the discipline with exercises, but it paid off -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
That's bad luck Frank - hope it mends quickly for you. John Coyle Brisbane, Australia -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of knarftheria...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, 22 September 2012 2:34 PM To: PDML@pdml.net Subject: OT - Minor Cycling Incident Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A guy from work suffered a broken hip that took a year to heal from a similar accident. Needed a new bicycle too! Just trying to make you feel a bit luckier :-) Glad you're OK, mate! (So do you get time off work?) —M. \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment On 22 September 2012 00:33, knarftheria...@gmail.com knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
On Sep 23, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Similarly, I've been having these foot problems periodically for 3 or 4 years now, and it's only by by-passing my GP and going straight to a private physiotherapist that I've actually been given a diagnosis and some treatment that makes sense. I've learned to automatically bypass my GP for anything sports-related. The time I went to my GP complaining about achilles pain, he prescribed an anti-inflammatory that turned my head to mush. Since then I've been going to a private sports clinic for any help I need. I managed to get my current injury on ACC (government-run accident insurance) as my previous one, which I thought would only need a couple of physio sessions, cost me several hundred dollars over a few months. Unfortunately ACC seems to cover bugger all for this one and I'm having to pay for most of treatment myself anyway. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Minor Cycling Incident
Gee that stinks. Still, it could have been a lot worse. And I'm glad the driver was good about it, too. Similar incidents happen here. I know of a couple of people who got pretty banged up when riding in a cycle lane during heavy traffic and someone waves a turning vehicle through. It's nearly happened to me a couple of times so I'm very careful around intersections. Good to hear you rode home, too. I attempted to ride home from the accident when I broke my collarbone (without knowing it was broken) but only lasted a couple of hundred metres so I walked a little over halfway before calling the Mrs to pick me up. I've yet to ride in an ambulance and I'd like to keep it that way. After treatment I read the label on the codeine pills they'd prescribed me, which said to limit alcohol intake. It didn't say what the limit was, nor whether it was meant to be an upper or lower limit :) Cheers, Dave On Sep 22, 2012, at 4:33 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote: Could have been a lot worse but I collided with a left-turning car this evening. Injured my left shoulder (again) and got an ambulance ride to the hospital (no sirens, damn it!). X-rays all negative but was diagnosed with partially torn rotator cuff. Can ride when pain permits. So I rode home. Very slowly. Hurt a fair bit but actually hurts much more when I am standing with my arm hanging by my side. Sigh... This is by far not the worst cycling injury I've sustained but I know I'll be sore as hell for a couple of days at least. Could have been much worse! Oh yeah, bike's okay. Handlbars and one brake lever were twisted 'round but have now been straightened. Front wheel out of true (but still ridable, so very true-able). Off to bed now. This will be a long night... ;-) cheers, frank What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. -- Christopher Hitchens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
