Re: OT: Test Message
On 7/11/2019 7:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A have never heard of a "pro bono" class action. That is very much a contradiction in terms. In Canada, anyway, the majority of class action lawsuits are initiated by a handful of ambulance chasers. These are people who are very much in it for the money and not any social good that might come from their beating up on some corporation. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
On 7/11/2019 7:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote: A have never heard of a "pro bono" class action. That is very much a contradiction in terms. In Canada, anyway, the majority of class action lawsuits are initiated by a handful of ambulance chasers. These are people who are very much in it for the money and not any social good that might come from their beating up on some corporation. bill -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
A have never heard of a "pro bono" class action. First, the cost of conducting that type of litigation is enormous -- even excluding attorney fees. Second, one purpose of creating a class action is to get the court to award attorneys fees paid by the defendant to the attorneys for the class. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 2:02 AM mike wilson wrote: > > Can't you find a leagal eagle willing to initiate a pro bono class action? > > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
> On 10 July 2019 at 21:26 John wrote: > > > The chronic problem I've had with using Earthlink with PDML has been that the > server pool in Atlanta where my emails most often go through regularly > appears > on the black-hole SPAM blocking service that the PDML server uses. It's one > guy > SPAMMING mail lists. > > I've talked to Earthlink "tech support" about it and they DON'T CARE. Can't you find a leagal eagle willing to initiate a pro bono class action? > > On 7/9/2019 10:16:40, Ken Waller wrote: > > FWIW, I'm having no issues with my E-link account re PDMLPENTAX. > > > > > > -Original Message- > >> From: John > >> Subject: Re: OT: Test Message > >> > >> Thanks. I can see it with Yahoo, but it's still not showing up in my > >> Earthlink > >> account inbox. > >> > >> On 7/9/2019 06:32:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > >>> Am 09.07.19 um 11:50 schrieb John Sessoms: > >>> > >>>> Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only > >>>> PDML is affected. > >>> > >>> Received loud and clear in Cologne. > >>> > >>> Ralf -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
The chronic problem I've had with using Earthlink with PDML has been that the server pool in Atlanta where my emails most often go through regularly appears on the black-hole SPAM blocking service that the PDML server uses. It's one guy SPAMMING mail lists. I've talked to Earthlink "tech support" about it and they DON'T CARE. On 7/9/2019 10:16:40, Ken Waller wrote: FWIW, I'm having no issues with my E-link account re PDMLPENTAX. -Original Message- From: John Subject: Re: OT: Test Message Thanks. I can see it with Yahoo, but it's still not showing up in my Earthlink account inbox. On 7/9/2019 06:32:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 09.07.19 um 11:50 schrieb John Sessoms: Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only PDML is affected. Received loud and clear in Cologne. Ralf -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
It appears to have gotten to the list. On 7/9/2019 5:50 AM, John Sessoms wrote: Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only PDML is affected. -- America wasn't founded so that we could all be better. America was founded so we could all be anything we damn well please. - P.J. O'Rourke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
FWIW, I'm having no issues with my E-link account re PDMLPENTAX. -Original Message- >From: John >Subject: Re: OT: Test Message > >Thanks. I can see it with Yahoo, but it's still not showing up in my Earthlink >account inbox. > >On 7/9/2019 06:32:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: >> Am 09.07.19 um 11:50 schrieb John Sessoms: >> >>> Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only >>> PDML is affected. >> >> Received loud and clear in Cologne. >> >> Ralf >> >> -- >> Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany >> Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com >> Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf >> Web : http://www.fotoralf.de >> > >-- >Science - Questions we may never find answers for. >Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
Thanks. I can see it with Yahoo, but it's still not showing up in my Earthlink account inbox. On 7/9/2019 06:32:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 09.07.19 um 11:50 schrieb John Sessoms: Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only PDML is affected. Received loud and clear in Cologne. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test Message
Am 09.07.19 um 11:50 schrieb John Sessoms: Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only PDML is affected. Received loud and clear in Cologne. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That's Ok. Since I was sending from Yahoo, I expected gmail would deliver it to SPAM folders. I hoped some others might see it in their inbox or PDML folders. Which they did. What I was really looking for was whether Roadrunner would deliver it to me. It didn't, but roadrunner email does seem to be back online now. I think I just lost about 24 hours worth of messages. The only reason I still have the Yahoo is to cross-check PDML for online transactions that require you to give an email address. Thanks to all who saw it replied. On 5/25/2014 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote: Now you're appearing in my spam folder. (not by my doing) You can't win... On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM, John Sessoms johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I already paid for something better. Now, I'm just trying to get what I'm paying for to work. On 5/24/2014 1:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Got your message, but something is wrong. Some 10% to 20% of the messages on this list are you having problems or complaining of problems with your service. You need to bite the bullet and pay for something better. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test
Now you're appearing in my spam folder. (not by my doing) You can't win... On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM, John Sessoms johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I already paid for something better. Now, I'm just trying to get what I'm paying for to work. On 5/24/2014 1:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Got your message, but something is wrong. Some 10% to 20% of the messages on this list are you having problems or complaining of problems with your service. You need to bite the bullet and pay for something better. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Mine as well. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sun, May 25, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com wrote: Now you're appearing in my spam folder. (not by my doing) You can't win... On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:30 PM, John Sessoms johnsess...@yahoo.com wrote: I already paid for something better. Now, I'm just trying to get what I'm paying for to work. On 5/24/2014 1:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Got your message, but something is wrong. Some 10% to 20% of the messages on this list are you having problems or complaining of problems with your service. You need to bite the bullet and pay for something better. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test
John, Got your message, but something is wrong. Some 10% to 20% of the messages on this list are you having problems or complaining of problems with your service. You need to bite the bullet and pay for something better. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I already paid for something better. Now, I'm just trying to get what I'm paying for to work. On 5/24/2014 1:20 PM, Bob Sullivan wrote: John, Got your message, but something is wrong. Some 10% to 20% of the messages on this list are you having problems or complaining of problems with your service. You need to bite the bullet and pay for something better. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test
Copy that! J - Original Message - From: John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net, johnsess...@yahoo.com Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:12:16 AM Subject: OT: Test Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT: Test
Test received! J - Original Message - From: Bob Sullivan rf.sulli...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 10:20:52 AM Subject: Re: OT: Test John, Got your message, but something is wrong. Some 10% to 20% of the messages on this list are you having problems or complaining of problems with your service. You need to bite the bullet and pay for something better. Regards, Bob S. On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 12:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I received the test email, but it was in my SPAM folder, so I did not notice it at first. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I had several of those happen to me while on Yahoo. Am now, comcast. Jack - Original Message - From: Daniel J. Matyola danmaty...@gmail.com To: PDML pdml@pdml.net Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 11:50:40 AM Subject: Re: OT: Test I received the test email, but it was in my SPAM folder, so I did not notice it at first. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:12 PM, John jsessoms...@nc.rr.com wrote: Time-Warner Roadrunner appears to be hosed up again. I have received no email since 12:01am this morning. Checking that against my Yahoo account, there should be several messages from PDML. At this point, I'm trying to see if I can SEND mail using my TWC Roadrunner email account. -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
Someone you don't know. On 5/20/2010 3:59 PM, eckinator wrote: who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farrfarranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
What makes you so sure? 2010/5/20 P. J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com: Someone you don't know. On 5/20/2010 3:59 PM, eckinator wrote: who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farrfarranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
Just because... On 5/20/2010 4:22 PM, eckinator wrote: What makes you so sure? 2010/5/20 P. J. Allingwebstertwenty...@gmail.com: Someone you don't know. On 5/20/2010 3:59 PM, eckinator wrote: who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farrfarranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
Last name is Ymous Den 20. mai 2010 kl. 21.59 skrev eckinator: who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
From: eckinator who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony ? ?Of what use is lens and light ? ?to those who lack in mind and sight ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (Anon) Some guy named Al. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: OT - Test of Gmail threading
2010/5/21 John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com: From: eckinator who is this anon person anyway? 2010/5/20 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: Just checking again. regards, Anthony ? ?Of what use is lens and light ? ?to those who lack in mind and sight ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (Anon) Some guy named Al. I see the mighty Dodge sign bearing down on me... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Bob W Looks like it's going to be an interesting day at Lord's tomorrow! Droll! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Har Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:08 +0100, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: Looks like it's going to be an interesting day at Lord's tomorrow! Bob -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and love email again -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Less than a minute. Guess your all either sleeping or out taking pictures. Carry on. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2009/6/24 Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com: Nothing in the inbox and nothing in the PDML archive for hours. Just thought I'd ping the list and see how long it takes for the pong to come back around ;-) regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 24/06/2009, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing in the inbox and nothing in the PDML archive for hours. Just thought I'd ping the list and see how long it takes for the pong to come back around ;-) There must be good light world wide ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Evening, Rob. Been a quiet time on PDML tonight, eh. For once I'm up-to-date on this weeks mail, thanks to the lull. Last month's is another story. Once it goes back to the second page of Gmail and beyond it's out of sight and out of mind and I aint never gonna read it. regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) 2009/6/24 Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com: On 24/06/2009, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing in the inbox and nothing in the PDML archive for hours. Just thought I'd ping the list and see how long it takes for the pong to come back around ;-) There must be good light world wide ;-) -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Slow night. Anthony Farr wrote: Nothing in the inbox and nothing in the PDML archive for hours. Just thought I'd ping the list and see how long it takes for the pong to come back around ;-) regards, Anthony Of what use is lens and light to those who lack in mind and sight (Anon) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- The free man owns himself. He can damage himself with either eating or drinking; he can ruin himself with gambling. If he does he is certainly a damn fool, and he might possibly be a damned soul; but if he may not, he is not a free man any more than a dog. --G. K. Chesterton -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f - Original Message - From: Rob Studdert distudio.p...@gmail.com Subject: Re: OT - test On 24/06/2009, Anthony Farr farranth...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing in the inbox and nothing in the PDML archive for hours. Just thought I'd ping the list and see how long it takes for the pong to come back around ;-) There must be good light world wide ;-) I doubt a lot of photogs would notice -- Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC +10 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I hate to tell you this, but I think you're a figment of my imagination. I'm sure Frank is... John Sessoms wrote: I apologize, but I just got a mail bounce saying it couldn't verify that I exist. Wanted to see if it's going to do it again. This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: pdml@pdml.net Reason:Verification failed for [EMAIL PROTECTED] The mail server could not deliver mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The account or domain may not exist, they may be blacklisted, or missing the proper dns entries. Sender verify failed -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- You get further with a kind word and a gun, than with a kind word alone. --Al Capone. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I tried once. Got 19 and I ain't gonna do it again. My eyes are tired now. David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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heh. 15 on a 15 laptop screen from 2003... Look forward to do this on a brighter and more accurate screen. Didn't take that long... 4 minutes, maybe? Do a round of voting in the Pentax Gallery if you _really_ want to burn time :-) Jostein 2008/9/15 David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED]: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- http://www.alunfoto.no/galleri/ http://alunfoto.blogspot.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Cotty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 I started and got as far as moving three blocks until I realised that this task was pissing me off in a major way. Yah, and I throw my Rubik's Cube at the wall as well. Sod that! Rubik's Cube is a lot easier if you just peel all the stickers off before you start. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:38 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rubik's Cube is a lot easier if you just peel all the stickers off before you start. My middle daughter (who just started college fer gawd's sake!) was around 2 1/2 or 3 when the Rubik's Cube craze hit our part of the world. We had several of them around the house and we told her that the idea was to get each side to be all the same colour. You see where I'm going here, right? One afternoon, with great pride, she showed my then-wife and me her progress: she'd manipulated things so that almost two sides were completely the same colour. I worked on one for days and days to get maybe one and a half solid sides; we thought she must be some sort of a genius, a child prodigy, ~something~! We got busy calling Harvard, Yale and Oxford seeking her early admission, lining her up on the Tonight Show and Merv Griffin, but before any of them got back to us, we spied her (I think it was a day later), pulling stickers off and replacing them in the appropriate places. She really wasn't cheating, we just never explained it to her. Hey, she was showing real problem-solving skills, eh? Oh well, we came back to reality with a thud. cheers, frank -- Sharpness is a bourgeois concept. -Henri Cartier-Bresson -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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[...] We got busy calling Harvard, Yale and Oxford seeking her early admission, lining her up on the Tonight Show and Merv Griffin, but before any of them got back to us, we spied her (I think it was a day later), pulling stickers off and replacing them in the appropriate places. She really wasn't cheating, we just never explained it to her. Hey, she was showing real problem-solving skills, eh? Oh well, we came back to reality with a thud. you should go with the genius interpretation. One of the things that makes someone a genius is that they make their own rules. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I got an 18, and I'm not sure I want to do that again. My eyes went a little wonky. I kept blinking to try and get refocused. Thanks for posting that, Dave. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 6:27 PM Subject: OT Test your Colour IQ http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: frank theriault [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 9:38 AM, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rubik's Cube is a lot easier if you just peel all the stickers off before you start. My middle daughter (who just started college fer gawd's sake!) was around 2 1/2 or 3 when the Rubik's Cube craze hit our part of the world. We had several of them around the house and we told her that the idea was to get each side to be all the same colour. You see where I'm going here, right? One afternoon, with great pride, she showed my then-wife and me her progress: she'd manipulated things so that almost two sides were completely the same colour. I worked on one for days and days to get maybe one and a half solid sides; we thought she must be some sort of a genius, a child prodigy, ~something~! We got busy calling Harvard, Yale and Oxford seeking her early admission, lining her up on the Tonight Show and Merv Griffin, but before any of them got back to us, we spied her (I think it was a day later), pulling stickers off and replacing them in the appropriate places. She really wasn't cheating, we just never explained it to her. Hey, she was showing real problem-solving skills, eh? Oh well, we came back to reality with a thud. cheers, frank If you know someone who's memorized the formula for solving it, and yes, it is a formula ... actually several of them you use sequentially ... here's a fun thing to do. Pry one corner block loose, rotate it 120 or 240 degrees pop it back on. Thoroughly mix the sides corners and leave it where your patsy can find it. Makes 'em completely crazy. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 8:25 AM, Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. Now you just need a hard place and your all set. Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Had a few moments and did the test. Score of 24 on my Samsung SyncMaster 753df, CRT moniotor, Spyder I version. Had some bars in the yellow, purple and light green areas. Dave On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 7:27 PM, David Savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:44 AM, Maxime Thériault [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. I don't know. It does make a difference for prints at this end. Your eyes are better than mine then.:-) Dave -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. How old are you? :-) ann (71, got 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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24, it took me a little while in both try though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. How old are you? :-) ann (71, got 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Calibration matters when you want to match printer output to what you see on the screen, or when you want to make sure that images you deliver to clients are color accurate. In terms of this test, it doesn't matter because you're identifying color shift between samples. And even if the colors your looking at are not accurate, the shifts are still proportional. Paul (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). On Sep 16, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). Bawk bawk bawk bawk BAKK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? No, but it's a convenient excuse for people who scored poorly, and an in your face for those who did well without a calibrated monitor. Let them have their fun, please. We'll get back to doomsday discussions sooner or later. -- Scott Loveless New Cumberland, PA http://www.twosixteen.com/fivetoedsloth/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hello Doug, Yes, Halloween is almost here. Nice one. -- Best regards, Bruce Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 5:25:59 AM, you wrote: D On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 D I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2008/9/17 Scott Loveless [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? No, but it's a convenient excuse for people who scored poorly, and an in your face for those who did well without a calibrated monitor. Let them have their fun, please. We'll get back to doomsday discussions sooner or later. I may have blamed my laptop monitor, but I've always known I had poor colour sense. :-p Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I fell much better :-) ann Maxime Thériault wrote: 24, it took me a little while in both try though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. How old are you? :-) ann (71, got 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I feel much better :-) ann Maxime Thériault wrote: 24, it took me a little while in both try though. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ann sanfedele Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:02 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ Maxime Thériault wrote: Does calibration really matter? I have two non-calibrated Dell E228FP, both connected with dvi-d cables. I scored 0 on both of them. How old are you? :-) ann (71, got 8) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Doug Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:26 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: OT Test your Colour IQ On Sep 14, 2008, at 7:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I got 111 I got a rock. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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That sounds like a challenge. I'll get to it sooner or later. I think. Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Matthew Hunt wrote: On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). Bawk bawk bawk bawk BAKK! -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 16, 2008, at 09:00 , Paul Stenquist wrote: snip Paul (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). What time? It took less than 30 seconds a row. Pick the color on the left, move all hues with that color in them to that side, closest match first. Adjust order if needed, go to the right, adjust order of those starting with the closest hue. Done. Go to next row. If you stare at it trying to see subtle differences, you lose the ability to discern, and go blind with it. Keep the second guessing to a minimum. Now go try it again! :-) Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Okay, I did it. Took me at least five minutes. I scored 11. All of my errors were in the blue/green spectrum. Since I work largely with skin tones, I can live with that:-). Now, back to work. Paul On Sep 16, 2008, at 1:56 PM, Joseph McAllister wrote: On Sep 16, 2008, at 09:00 , Paul Stenquist wrote: snip Paul (Who did one row and decided he didn't have time for games at the moment:-). What time? It took less than 30 seconds a row. Pick the color on the left, move all hues with that color in them to that side, closest match first. Adjust order if needed, go to the right, adjust order of those starting with the closest hue. Done. Go to next row. If you stare at it trying to see subtle differences, you lose the ability to discern, and go blind with it. Keep the second guessing to a minimum. Now go try it again! :-) Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 16, 2008, at 12:28 , Paul Stenquist replied: Okay, I did it. Took me at least five minutes. I scored 11. All of my errors were in the blue/green spectrum. Since I work largely with skin tones, I can live with that:-). Now, back to work. Paul Congratulations! (I knew if I told you it would take 5 minutes you wouldn't do it!) :-) Those blue-greens are what killed my chances at perfection as well. Don't you feel good now? Joseph McAllister Pentaxian -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 14-Sep-08, at 5:27 PM, David Savage wrote: http://www.xrite.com/custom_page.aspx?PageID=77 0 is a perfect score I scored 38, using a 4 year old Apple Powerbook 12. My eyes are pretty tired now! Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 16, 2007, at 9:45, John Sessoms wrote: Got my main email computer back operating, but having some trouble with the mail and news servers. This is to test whether I can send to the list. Seems you can. Or did I imagine it? -Charles -- Charles Robinson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Minneapolis, MN http://charles.robinsontwins.org -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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gotcha rg2 On 9/16/07, John Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Got my main email computer back operating, but having some trouble with the mail and news servers. This is to test whether I can send to the list. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net -- the subject of a photograph is far less important than its composition -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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From: Charles Robinson On Sep 16, 2007, at 9:45, John Sessoms wrote: Got my main email computer back operating, but having some trouble with the mail and news servers. This is to test whether I can send to the list. Seems you can. Or did I imagine it? The News server kept rejecting the messages with a message they were too old. Finally figured out the computer date/time got stranded somehow; set to the date/time when it crashed ... about 3 days ago. Evidently the mail server didn't care, cause the date/time was still wrong when I sent that (morning of the 18th). -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
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I didn't get it. Dave S. -- All I ask is the chance to prove that money can't make me happy. - Spike Milligan
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The messages got caught in a time warp and are just now arriving (Sept 23). Rob Studdert wrote: Received absolutely nothing from the list since the 20th at 10am, are we still here? Am I still a subscriber? These questions and more will be answered shortly Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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Damn!!! Henri Toivonen got one into the archive. That's a run of 5 messages to me, according to the rule below. Beat that! regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] The rule is that I have to both receive my previous message back, AND see it in the archives. regards, Anthony Farr
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Anthony Farr wrote: Damn!!! Henri Toivonen got one into the archive. That's a run of 5 messages to me, according to the rule below. Beat that! regards, Anthony Farr Who? Wha? What? What did I do? :-) /Henri
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You've done nothing wrong, Henri. In fact, I'm very happy to see someone else out in listland, I was going a little stir-crazy in solitary confinement. The explanation can be read by tracking this thread at: http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/maillist.html#195499 (the chronological view, aka Date Index, is the most revealing). regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anthony Farr wrote: Damn!!! Henri Toivonen got one into the archive. That's a run of 5 messages to me, according to the rule below. Beat that! regards, Anthony Farr Who? Wha? What? What did I do? :-) /Henri
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Anthony Farr wrote: You've done nothing wrong, Henri. In fact, I'm very happy to see someone else out in listland, I was going a little stir-crazy in solitary confinement. The explanation can be read by tracking this thread at: http://www.mail-archive.com/pentax-discuss%40pdml.net/maillist.html#195499 (the chronological view, aka Date Index, is the most revealing). regards, Anthony Farr Well, your monologue did arrive to my mailbox atleast. You were starting to look a bit stir-crazy, talking to yourself like that. ;-) /Henri
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Somebody had to keep the list ticking over. You can have a turn now. regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Henri Toivonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, your monologue did arrive to my mailbox atleast. You were starting to look a bit stir-crazy, talking to yourself like that. ;-) /Henri
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Anthony Farr's paranoia acted up and he wrote: This is sad, I'm talking to myself. Hellooo. Did everyone but me unsubscribe and start a new list? Reminds me of the time my parents moved away while I was at school :-( Just kidding ;-) We're busy writing private e-mails about you. I can't believe not one person is defending you. G Tom Reese
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Careful, I might believe you ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Tom Reese [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're busy writing private e-mails about you. I can't believe not one person is defending you. G Tom Reese
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6am Sunday morning and you expect a reply? -- Anthony Farr wrote: This is sad, I'm talking to myself. Hellooo. Did everyone but me unsubscribe and start a new list? Reminds me of the time my parents moved away while I was at school :-( Just kidding ;-) regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: Anthony Farr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Got it back in minutes! And it's in the archive just as quickly. So where is everybody? Perfect shooting weather in the northern hemisphere, I suppose :-) regards, Anthony Farr -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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At this time of year it will have been light for over an hour, wouldn't it? regards, Anthony Farr - Original Message - From: graywolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6am Sunday morning and you expect a reply? --
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On 16/7/04, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, offered: I am not receiving messages from the list. If this gets through, I request that someone please reply to the list with a cc to my email address to let me know. Reading you loud and clear Dan Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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This is the second message I've got from you on this list in a short time.. keith whaley Don Sanderson wrote: I've sent several posts now, they don't seem to get through. Don
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I've been trying to send one asking some questions about Film vs Digital. Doesn't seem to want to work. I'll get it figured out eventually. BTW: PAW = Photographer At Work??? Thanks Don -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Test? This is the second message I've got from you on this list in a short time.. keith whaley Don Sanderson wrote: I've sent several posts now, they don't seem to get through. Don
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Whan we are at it, what about the meaning of PESO ? Thibouille -Message d'origine- De : Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 1 juillet 2004 14:40 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: OT: Test? I've been trying to send one asking some questions about Film vs Digital. Doesn't seem to want to work. I'll get it figured out eventually. BTW: PAW = Photographer At Work??? Thanks Don -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Test? This is the second message I've got from you on this list in a short time.. keith whaley Don Sanderson wrote: I've sent several posts now, they don't seem to get through. Don
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Picture a Week. Like the old photo clubs ... On 1 Jul 2004, at 14:39, Don Sanderson wrote: I've been trying to send one asking some questions about Film vs Digital. Doesn't seem to want to work. I'll get it figured out eventually. BTW: PAW = Photographer At Work??? Thanks Don -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Test? This is the second message I've got from you on this list in a short time.. keith whaley Don Sanderson wrote: I've sent several posts now, they don't seem to get through. Don
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PESO = Photo Every So Often (-: Can't remember who coined it, but it works for me (-: David Thibs wrote: Whan we are at it, what about the meaning of PESO ? Thibouille -Message d'origine- De : Don Sanderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoyé : jeudi 1 juillet 2004 14:40 À : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Objet : RE: OT: Test? I've been trying to send one asking some questions about Film vs Digital. Doesn't seem to want to work. I'll get it figured out eventually. BTW: PAW = Photographer At Work??? Thanks Don -Original Message- From: Keith Whaley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 01, 2004 7:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT: Test? This is the second message I've got from you on this list in a short time.. keith whaley Don Sanderson wrote: I've sent several posts now, they don't seem to get through. Don
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This one did, I guess you pass. Don Sanderson wrote: I've sent several posts now, they don't seem to get through. Don
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Steve, Congratulations on landing the Beeb job. I seem to recall you were interviewing them around the time of the London PDML event. John On Fri, 25 Jun 2004 23:58:21 +0100 (BST), Steve Jolly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Cotty wrote: I kid you not: the VJ is the first to arrive and the last to depart a presser, and the result sucks big time. But the people who have the power to make these things happen, the people in charge of TV companies now are not program makers, they are corporate execs who could be in charge of a telecoms co, a fast food chain, a retail chain, anything you care to mention. It's all about money. Quality is taking a back seat. Nearly. :-) If there's a place for VJs, the scrum at press conferences isn't it. Whether there *is* a place for them or not, well, that's definitely not my area of expertise. :-) Suffice it to say that I'm definitely on your side in the quality-vs-cost-cutting debate. Steve, if you want to improve the TV news, forget about consolidating staff positions through hardware, instead - make things faster. Instant broadcast quality live pics and sound from anywhere via mobile technology with minimal fuss will be a big step forward. Forget landlines etc, it needs to be completely standalone, operating in the field, no mid-points, but no satellites either- too expensive. maybe new mpeg compression or something? It'll come, I'm sure. The success of videophones in TV news pretty much guarantees it. :-) Broadcast quality might even be feasible once 3G mobile phone technology gets properly off the ground, although quality of service and coverage are issues with that technology. I genuinely have no inside information on this one, but I'm sure it's being looked at. S -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/
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On 30/6/04, John Forbes, discombobulated, offered: Steve, Congratulations on landing the Beeb job. I seem to recall you were interviewing them around the time of the London PDML event. John I'll bet he *was* interviewing them as well ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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still doesn't work? On Sunday 27 June 2004 21:24, Cotty wrote: FJW On 27/6/04, Cotty, discombobulated, offered: FJW FJW bloody thing FJW FJW refuses to work FJW FJW FJW try again FJW FJW FJW -- Frits Wüthrich
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On 28/6/04, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, offered: still doesn't work? No! Bloody £$%£$%*$!! thing. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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He has managed to filter out all e-mail from the PDML, or people on the PDML. GRIN Frits Wüthrich wrote: still doesn't work? On Sunday 27 June 2004 21:24, Cotty wrote: FJW On 27/6/04, Cotty, discombobulated, offered: FJW FJW bloody thing FJW FJW refuses to work FJW FJW FJW try again FJW FJW FJW -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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Must be that easy to use Mac software... Cotty wrote: On 28/6/04, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, offered: still doesn't work? No! Bloody £$%£$%*$!! thing. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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On 28/6/04, graywolf, discombobulated, offered: Must be that easy to use Mac software... Don't start!!! Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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it's *working* Mutley snigger Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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And nice to see that your email client now properly uses threading. So your email messages show up in the thread, instead of creating a new one. On Thursday 24 June 2004 19:30, Cotty wrote: FJW On 24/6/04, Keith Whaley, discombobulated, offered: FJW FJW Aha! Congratulations! FJW Good to see it works just fine. FJW FJW Oh yeah, is it working fine. It's really weird to be getting PDML FJW messages in real time. FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW Cheers, FJW Cotty FJW FJW FJW ___/\__ FJW || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche FJW ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps FJW _ FJW FJW FJW FJW -- Frits Wüthrich
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On 27/6/04, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, offered: And nice to see that your email client now properly uses threading. So your email messages show up in the thread, instead of creating a new one. In digest, you have to copy and paste the subject line into the reply email - was this action you describe above happening to any other digest users? Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Actually, I never checked that. For some reason I noticed your email's in the past did that, and I didn't realize it was related to reading the digest. I noticed you used to reply to your own email messages when you replied to other threads, so I was wondering why this happened, now I understand. I guess that is happening with other readers of the digest as well, but as I didn't keep track of who is reading the digest, I never made that connection. As I set my email client to thread the messages in my PDML folder, it is an advantage for me if this works. On Sunday 27 June 2004 14:08, Cotty wrote: FJW On 27/6/04, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, offered: FJW FJW And nice to see that your email client now properly uses threading. So FJW your email messages show up in the thread, instead of creating a new one. FJW FJW In digest, you have to copy and paste the subject line into the reply FJW email - was this action you describe above happening to any other digest FJW users? FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW Cheers, FJW Cotty FJW FJW FJW ___/\__ FJW || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche FJW ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps FJW _ FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW -- Frits Wüthrich
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1 rule for the in crow eh, another for the rest Antonio On 25 Jun 2004, at 01:20, Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Get a grip antonio, they aren't hurting anyone's feelings with THEIR posts, and besides, I've been laughing along with them with every post. tan. -Original Message- From: Antonio Aparicio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, 25 June 2004 9:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: OT - test Sheesh, and you guys have a go at me for being OT? Why dont you email each other with your private chit chat? A. On 25 Jun 2004, at 00:55, Cotty wrote: On 24/6/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, offered: Kripes, Cotty, For that kind of money, just pay to fly me over the pond: I'll whisper my posts into your ear... LOL. Right now I could do with a shoulder massage. Been filming in a rowdy and crowded pub in Oxford, watching England go out of the European football championships :-( It gets past fun and into downright painful territory with that bloody camera (25 lbs) sitting up there for more than 2 hours (match, plus extra time plus penalty shoot out). I've had some aspirin and arnica gel rubbed in but boy that's painful! Anyway, off to bed. Cheerio mate. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Good thing England lost that game, else you had another night in a pub coming in a few days, with even more shoulder pain. On Friday 25 June 2004 00:55, Cotty wrote: FJW On 24/6/04, frank theriault, discombobulated, offered: FJW FJW Kripes, Cotty, FJW FJW For that kind of money, just pay to fly me over the pond: FJW FJW I'll whisper my posts into your ear... FJW FJW LOL. FJW FJW Right now I could do with a shoulder massage. Been filming in a rowdy and FJW crowded pub in Oxford, watching England go out of the European football FJW championships :-( It gets past fun and into downright painful territory FJW with that bloody camera (25 lbs) sitting up there for more than 2 hours FJW (match, plus extra time plus penalty shoot out). I've had some aspirin FJW and arnica gel rubbed in but boy that's painful! FJW FJW Anyway, off to bed. FJW FJW Cheerio mate. FJW FJW FJW FJW FJW Cheers, FJW Cotty FJW FJW FJW ___/\__ FJW || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche FJW ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps FJW _ FJW FJW FJW FJW -- Frits Wüthrich
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Open letter to Cotty! Why _ever_ do those cameras weigh 25 lbs? You would think that with the advances in image recording technology in the past 10 years, they'd be able to shrink the size of those cameras considerably! I know the weight helps steady things, but that's what we have IS for! So it seems to me. Have you taken out stock in the makers of arnica gel? g keith Frits Wüthrich wrote: Good thing England lost that game, else you had another night in a pub coming in a few days, with even more shoulder pain. On Friday 25 June 2004 00:55, Cotty wrote: FJW Right now I could do with a shoulder massage. Been filming in a rowdy and FJW crowded pub in Oxford, watching England go out of the European football FJW championships :-( It gets past fun and into downright painful territory FJW with that bloody camera (25 lbs) sitting up there for more than 2 hours FJW (match, plus extra time plus penalty shoot out). I've had some aspirin FJW and arnica gel rubbed in but boy that's painful! FJW FJW Anyway, off to bed. FJW FJW Cheerio mate.
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C Oh yeah, is it working fine. It's really weird to be getting PDML C messages in real time. Hah! So can we except to read more cottisms now on PDML ;-) ? Best regards, Frantisek Vlcek
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On 25/6/04, Frits Wüthrich, discombobulated, offered: Good thing England lost that game, else you had another night in a pub coming in a few days, with even more shoulder pain. Funny, I thought exactly the same thing ;-) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|www.macads.co.uk/snaps _
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Well I can answer that one. They don't weigh 25 lbs. The big fast zoom lens, and big heavy batteries (remember they need to run that thing for up to a couple of hours) are most of that weight. The rest is simply ruggedness. Those camcorders get thrown around and beat up a lot. Something like Adelheid's nifty Canon XL-1 (6 lbs or so) would not last 6 months in heavy news use. And the advances in technology did lighten them they used to weigh 45-50 lbs. -- Keith Whaley wrote: Open letter to Cotty! Why _ever_ do those cameras weigh 25 lbs? You would think that with the advances in image recording technology in the past 10 years, they'd be able to shrink the size of those cameras considerably! I know the weight helps steady things, but that's what we have IS for! So it seems to me. Have you taken out stock in the makers of arnica gel? g keith Frits Wüthrich wrote: Good thing England lost that game, else you had another night in a pub coming in a few days, with even more shoulder pain. On Friday 25 June 2004 00:55, Cotty wrote: FJW Right now I could do with a shoulder massage. Been filming in a rowdy and FJW crowded pub in Oxford, watching England go out of the European football FJW championships :-( It gets past fun and into downright painful territory FJW with that bloody camera (25 lbs) sitting up there for more than 2 hours FJW (match, plus extra time plus penalty shoot out). I've had some aspirin FJW and arnica gel rubbed in but boy that's painful! FJW FJW Anyway, off to bed. FJW FJW Cheerio mate. -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com/graywolf.html
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Cotty wrote: Why Frank, all your posts I have printed off and sent to a specialist signwriter and glass-blower who constructs 20 - foot high billboards in glowing neon and rabbit fur of your missives, that are then paraded endlessly outside my house by a fleet of purpose-made trucks. I bet that you lot think he's joking. S
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Open letter to Cotty! Why _ever_ do those cameras weigh 25 lbs? You would think that with the advances in image recording technology in the past 10 years, they'd be able to shrink the size of those cameras considerably! At Portland last weekend I noticed a small remote camera perched on top of the catch fencing. The camera body was about the size of a three-pack of video tapes, and the lens assembly was around the size of a coke can. Closer inspection revealed this to be an HDTV camera. It was externally powered (which is how I first spotted it), and had no record capability, but I was still impressed by the small size as compared to a BetaCam.
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On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Cotty wrote: You asked about size. Other things that stipulate a camera's size: acquisition format (tape, basically). Betacam is made by Sony and a camera tape is physically identical in size to the old Betamax tapes you may recall that died after JVC won the domestic market in videotape all those years ago. Panasonic is another contender with its DVC Pro, and they are smaller tapes, as is Sony's own DV Cam. Surprisingly the high end cameras using these latter two formats are not much smaller than a Betacam. Hmmm, I've been playing with a Sony DCR-VX2000E lately, which is the standard camera the BBC's issuing its video journalists with right now (a video journalist is one person doing all the jobs of a reporter, camera operator, sound operator and producer...) - it's a hell of a lot lighter than beta; perhaps 12lb including a mounted shotgun mike and two-hour battery? It's not rugged though; that's probably the difference. I guess there's news and there's news :-) Betacam is definitely broadcast-quality though; the smaller formats aren't really. (Disclaimer - I now work for the BBC and therefore consider myself entirely qualified to bore the list with this kind of thing ;-) ) S
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Hi, Friday, June 25, 2004, 8:43:04 PM, Steve wrote: On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Cotty wrote: Why Frank, all your posts I have printed off and sent to a specialist signwriter and glass-blower who constructs 20 - foot high billboards in glowing neon and rabbit fur of your missives, that are then paraded endlessly outside my house by a fleet of purpose-made trucks. I bet that you lot think he's joking. If anybody doubts it, they should take a look at Cotty's Oxford house: http://www.headington.org.uk/history/misc/shark.htm -- Cheers, Bob