Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-27 Thread John Sessoms

From: P.J. Alling

To make a long story short.  The USPS finally did the right thing and
forwarded the package to my local Post Office, and put a delivery notice
in my P.O. Box.  I had contacted Adorama to find out how to a. end this
round robin and b. keep it from happening in the future.  Adorama didn't
give me an answer, but they did refund the shipping charges, so there's
that.  I'm fairly happy with the results, (it was pretty funny in a way,
they shipped my item in a box big enough to hold several hundred of
them), except, I still have no idea which address to give them when I
order again...


Adorama offers USPS priority mail as one of their standard shipping 
options, which should allow you to have it shipped directly to your 
P.O.Box.


http://www.adorama.com/help/shippingAndDelivery

Their shipping FAQ says they ship to P.O.Boxes and to APO/FPO addresses. 
It says allow 6-8 weeks, but I think that really only applies to APO/FPO 
addresses.


My experience with having stuff shipped USPS Priority Mail is it's about 
the same speed as UPS Ground with the exception that the USPS *does not* 
charge extra for Saturday delivery.


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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-26 Thread P.J. Alling
To make a long story short.  The USPS finally did the right thing and 
forwarded the package to my local Post Office, and put a delivery notice 
in my P.O. Box.  I had contacted Adorama to find out how to a. end this 
round robin and b. keep it from happening in the future.  Adorama didn't 
give me an answer, but they did refund the shipping charges, so there's 
that.  I'm fairly happy with the results, (it was pretty funny in a way, 
they shipped my item in a box big enough to hold several hundred of 
them), except, I still have no idea which address to give them when I 
order again...


On 3/25/2013 9:02 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:

Steve Cottrell wrote:


On 23/3/13, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:


Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.

Is this what they call the American Dream?

...as envisioned by Kafka.

... and realized by Scorsese http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088680/

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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-25 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 23/3/13, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver 
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a 
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't 
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.

Is this what they call the American Dream?

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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-25 Thread Mark Roberts
Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 23/3/13, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver 
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a 
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't 
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.

Is this what they call the American Dream?

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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-25 Thread Bruce Walker
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Mark Roberts
postmas...@robertstech.com wrote:
 Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 23/3/13, P.J. Alling, discombobulated, unleashed:

Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.

Is this what they call the American Dream?

 ...as envisioned by Kafka.

... and realized by Scorsese http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088680/

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RE: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-24 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling
 
 So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave
 them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard
 delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine
 until I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North Haven.
 Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver
 packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a
 post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't
 deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.
 

it's the retailer's responsibility to get the thing to you. Tell them to use
a shipper who can actually be bothered to do what they're paid to do.

Sometimes online sellers have shipped things to me via one of the private
carriers, and left a note to say the item is in their depot, which is in an
obscure part of London which would entail a 2-hour round trip for me to
collect. 

Well, if I'd wanted to spend 2 hours buying it, I wouldn't have bought it
online. 

So I leave it, and it gets returned to the seller. 

I tell the seller that I will cancel the sale unless they use the Royal Mail
to send it, so that if it's undelivered I can at least collect it from a
local depot or post office or, better still, they will leave it with a
neighbour.

B


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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-24 Thread mike wilson

On 24/03/2013 10:21, Bob W wrote:

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling

So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave
them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard
delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine
until I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North Haven.
Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.



it's the retailer's responsibility to get the thing to you. Tell them to use
a shipper who can actually be bothered to do what they're paid to do.


Only here, I suspect.  In the USA, if something you buy does not 
function as required, you have to seek recourse from the manufacturer, 
not the retailer.  It's probably the buyer's responsibility to make sure 
something is delivered to them, as well.




Sometimes online sellers have shipped things to me via one of the private
carriers, and left a note to say the item is in their depot, which is in an
obscure part of London which would entail a 2-hour round trip for me to
collect.

Well, if I'd wanted to spend 2 hours buying it, I wouldn't have bought it
online.

So I leave it, and it gets returned to the seller.

I tell the seller that I will cancel the sale unless they use the Royal Mail
to send it, so that if it's undelivered I can at least collect it from a
local depot or post office or, better still, they will leave it with a
neighbour.

B





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RE: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-24 Thread Bob W
 From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of mike wilson
 
 On 24/03/2013 10:21, Bob W wrote:
  From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling
 
  So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave
  them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard
  delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine
  until I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North
 Haven.
  Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to
 deliver
  packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have
 a
  post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't
  deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.
 
 
  it's the retailer's responsibility to get the thing to you. Tell them
  to use a shipper who can actually be bothered to do what they're paid
 to do.
 
 Only here, I suspect.  In the USA, if something you buy does not
 function as required, you have to seek recourse from the manufacturer,
 not the retailer.  It's probably the buyer's responsibility to make
 sure something is delivered to them, as well.
 

Maybe so, but if their customers start going elsewhere perhaps the retailers
will start listening.

B


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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-24 Thread Aahz Maruch
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013, mike wilson wrote:
 On 24/03/2013 10:21, Bob W wrote:

it's the retailer's responsibility to get the thing to you. Tell them to use
a shipper who can actually be bothered to do what they're paid to do.
 
 Only here, I suspect.  In the USA, if something you buy does not
 function as required, you have to seek recourse from the
 manufacturer, not the retailer.  It's probably the buyer's
 responsibility to make sure something is delivered to them, as well.

Nope, it's the seller's/shipper's responsibility to ensure delivery.
Especially if you pay with a credit card (and who doesn't for online
sales?), you can dispute the charge if it doesn't get delivered.
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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-24 Thread John Sessoms

From: mike wilson

On 24/03/2013 10:21, Bob W wrote:

From: PDML [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of P.J. Alling

So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave
them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard
delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine
until I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North Haven.
Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.



it's the retailer's responsibility to get the thing to you. Tell them to use
a shipper who can actually be bothered to do what they're paid to do.


Only here, I suspect.  In the USA, if something you buy does not
function as required, you have to seek recourse from the manufacturer,
not the retailer.  It's probably the buyer's responsibility to make sure
something is delivered to them, as well.



It is the seller's responsibility to deliver. Especially if you PAID for
shipping  handling.

I ran into that UPS - USPS contract recently, although it worked to my
advantage. Something I ordered was shipped UPS Ground (or whatever they
call it now) and didn't arrive by Friday.

I was resigned to waiting for it until Monday, but Saturday morning
there was a knock on my door and there was the Postman with my package.
I've always preferred USPS over UPS. In my experience, they've always
been more reliable.

I would suggest checking with the Post Office that has your P.O.Box just
to see if they might have the package.

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Re: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

2013-03-23 Thread Kenneth Waller
Bitch to Adorama!


-Original Message-
From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com
Subject: OT Really f*ck*ng annoying.

So I ordered an item Adorama through Amazon.  Paid by card, and gave 
them my street address, as Adorama ships via UPS or FedEx, standard 
delivery as I'm not in a hurry.  Everything seems to be going fine until 
I realize the item hasn't moved since it arrived in North Haven.  
Checking into I find that UPS has contracted with the USPS to deliver 
packages!!!  Now I don't have a mail receptacle at my house, I have a 
post office box.  UPS doesn't deliver to PO Boxes. The US mail won't 
deliver to my house, no receptacle.  I think I'll scream.

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