Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[ann sanfedele]

I remember -that- car! (not that precise one, of course)

ann

On 4/16/2023 1:34 PM, Bill wrote:

I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
Ford from the late 1950s.

https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9

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Re: PESO: Flying MGA

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> On 16/04/2023 22:37 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> At least I think that's what it is.
> I put up before and after pictures, so two links.
> I can see some pretty stomach churning memes coming out of this tool.
> 
> Before:
> https://flic.kr/p/2otGBoq
> And after
> https://flic.kr/p/2otGBnD

Missed your calling.  "Senior Executive in charge of car styling" has a certain 
ring to it.  George Lucas might have wanted a word, as well.
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Re: PESO: Flying MGA

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Mine was only a red MGB, but I loved it.

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On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 5:37 PM Bill  wrote:

> At least I think that's what it is.
> I put up before and after pictures, so two links.
> I can see some pretty stomach churning memes coming out of this tool.
>
> Before:
> https://flic.kr/p/2otGBoq
> And after
> https://flic.kr/p/2otGBnD
>
> Enjoy
>
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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[Paul Sorenson]

Cool...from the look of the tail fins, a 1957 version.

-p

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I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
Ford from the late 1950s.

https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9

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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[Bill]

Link away. The tool is amazing, but like most Photoshop tools, my
implementation leaves something to be desired.

bill

On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 2:14 PM mike wilson  wrote:

>
> > On 16/04/2023 18:34 Bill  wrote:
> >
> >
> > I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
> > Ford from the late 1950s.
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
> >
> > Shot on the Fuji X-Pro 1 and 35/1.4 Fujinon lens.
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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

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> On 16/04/2023 18:34 Bill  wrote:
> 
>  
> I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
> Ford from the late 1950s.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
> 
> Shot on the Fuji X-Pro 1 and 35/1.4 Fujinon lens.
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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[lrc]

That looks cool, did you use Photoshop to add front and rear fender skirts?
It is hard to see details  on my phone but there might be an artifact under the 
front bumper

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>Ford from the late 1950s.
>
>https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[Daniel J. Matyola]

"We'll have fun, fun, fun 'till Daddy takes the T- Bird away."

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On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 1:34 PM Bill  wrote:

> I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
> Ford from the late 1950s.
>
> https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
>
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Re: PESO: Flying T-Bird (No Pentax Content)

[Bob W PDML]

Looks like it wouldn’t have much trouble catching Maybellene at the top of the 
hill. Nothin’ outruns a V8 Foad. 

> On 16 Apr 2023, at 18:34, Bill  wrote:
> 
> I was at a car show a while back and happened upon this very futuristic
> Ford from the late 1950s.
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/2otHvy9
> 
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Re: PESO Flying Mouse

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On Thu, 10 May 2018 17:27:00 -0400
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> A Titmouse atop one of my shepherd crooks. Pretty little bird. I see
> them only rarely. https://www.photo.net/photo/18472592/Titmouse

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Re: PESO Flying Mouse

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You guess, correctly. Thanks!

> On May 10, 2018, at 5:55 PM, Jack Davis  wrote:
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> I've finally seen a Titmouse...I guess.
> Nice image, Paul!
> J
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>> only rarely.
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Re: PESO Flying Mouse

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I've finally seen a Titmouse...I guess.
Nice image, Paul!
J

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Re: PESO -- Flying Shark.

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On August 9, 2016 5:54:41 AM PDT, "P.J. Alling"  
wrote:
>On 8/9/2016 12:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>
>> P.J. Alling wrote:
>>> Sighted at a seafood restaurant.
>>>
>>> Who thought flying sharks might be a good idea?
>>
>> Claire Lee Chennault?
>
>They were tigers, ... tigers...

note the mouth painted of them. Sharks mouth, not tiger.

>
>>
>>>
>>>
>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20flyingshark.html
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Equipment: Pentax K-5 II w/smc Pentax A 24mm f2.8
>>>
>>> As usual comments are welcome but may be totally ignored.
>>
>> Nice capture of an interesting piece in challenging light.
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Re: PESO -- Flying Shark.

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On 8/9/2016 12:33 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



P.J. Alling wrote:

Sighted at a seafood restaurant.

Who thought flying sharks might be a good idea?


Claire Lee Chennault?


They were tigers, ... tigers...





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Re: PESO -- Flying Shark.

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P.J. Alling wrote:

Sighted at a seafood restaurant.

Who thought flying sharks might be a good idea?


Claire Lee Chennault?



https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20flyingshark.html


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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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Thanks, Don.  I don't know if you can tell, but the plane is towing
the flag as part of a tiny air show.

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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 1:54 PM, Don Guthrie  wrote:
> Nice juxtaposition of subjects.Very clever.
>
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>>> >On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
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>>> >http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17867831
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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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Nice juxtaposition of subjects.Very clever.

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>On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

[Ann Sanfedele]

ah - I see - well as Paul said, perfect positioning of the elements
it just looks not real to me.. I think a print would unconfuse me :-)

ann

On 9/29/2014 00:10, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

Thanks, Ann.

Our Rotary District held a Veterans Appreciation day at a local
airport.  There were various veterans services organizations giving
out information on the support they provide, as well as food, plane
rides, helicopter rides, balloon rides, and exhibits of aircraft,
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

I like the plane and the sky - but sadly the flag somehow looks as if it
were added in photoshop. I gather the plane is pulling the flag structure --
maybe if the drag line were clearer it wouldn't look
so articficial

what exactly was going on there, btw?  Air show?

ann




On 9/28/2014 19:18, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:


Thanks, Paul.

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Paul Stenquist 
wrote:


Nicely framed.

Paul via phone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola 
wrote:

Thanks, Bruce!

I was also in the air at the time, at a lower altitude.  I took
several shots over a couple of minutes, but this was the only one
where the flag was against the blue sky.

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Bruce 
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I like how the plane is silhouetted against the darker part of the
cloud while the flag is over against blue sky.  Nicely done.

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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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Thanks, Christine.

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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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Good shot, Dan!  Agree with Paul about the framing. Cheers, Christine 

Sent from my iPad

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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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Thanks, Ann.

Our Rotary District held a Veterans Appreciation day at a local
airport.  There were various veterans services organizations giving
out information on the support they provide, as well as food, plane
rides, helicopter rides, balloon rides, and exhibits of aircraft,
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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
> I like the plane and the sky - but sadly the flag somehow looks as if it
> were added in photoshop. I gather the plane is pulling the flag structure --
> maybe if the drag line were clearer it wouldn't look
> so articficial
>
> what exactly was going on there, btw?  Air show?
>
> ann
>
>
>
>
> On 9/28/2014 19:18, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Paul.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
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>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Paul Stenquist 
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>>> Nicely framed.
>>>
>>> Paul via phone
>>>
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 Thanks, Bruce!

 I was also in the air at the time, at a lower altitude.  I took
 several shots over a couple of minutes, but this was the only one
 where the flag was against the blue sky.

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>
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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

[Ann Sanfedele]

I like the plane and the sky - but sadly the flag somehow looks as if it 
were added in photoshop. I gather the plane is pulling the flag 
structure -- maybe if the drag line were clearer it wouldn't look

so articficial

what exactly was going on there, btw?  Air show?

ann



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Thanks, Paul.

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Nicely framed.

Paul via phone


On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

Thanks, Bruce!

I was also in the air at the time, at a lower altitude.  I took
several shots over a couple of minutes, but this was the only one
where the flag was against the blue sky.

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I like how the plane is silhouetted against the darker part of the cloud while 
the flag is over against blue sky.  Nicely done.

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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Paul.

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On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Nicely framed.
>
> Paul via phone
>
>> On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Bruce!
>>
>> I was also in the air at the time, at a lower altitude.  I took
>> several shots over a couple of minutes, but this was the only one
>> where the flag was against the blue sky.
>>
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>>
>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Bruce  wrote:
>>> I like how the plane is silhouetted against the darker part of the cloud 
>>> while the flag is over against blue sky.  Nicely done.
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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Nicely framed.

Paul via phone

> On Sep 28, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
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> Thanks, Bruce!
> 
> I was also in the air at the time, at a lower altitude.  I took
> several shots over a couple of minutes, but this was the only one
> where the flag was against the blue sky.
> 
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> 
> 
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Bruce  wrote:
>> I like how the plane is silhouetted against the darker part of the cloud 
>> while the flag is over against blue sky.  Nicely done.
>> 
>> --
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>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Bruce!

I was also in the air at the time, at a lower altitude.  I took
several shots over a couple of minutes, but this was the only one
where the flag was against the blue sky.

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> while the flag is over against blue sky.  Nicely done.
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Re: PESO: Flying the Flag

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I like how the plane is silhouetted against the darker part of the cloud while 
the flag is over against blue sky.  Nicely done. 

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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Alan.

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On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 2:32 AM, Alan C  wrote:
> Right time, right place. A wonderful scene, Dan.
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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Alan C]

Right time, right place. A wonderful scene, Dan.

Alan C

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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Igor.

I did take images of the sunset without the helicopter:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17822444
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17822443

I prefer the one with the helicopter, however;  perhaps because of my
interest in aviation or because I take sunset images every evening
during our trips to Maui every winter.  I will, however, try cropping
out the chopper from this image, to see if that improves it as you
suggest.

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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Igor Roshchin  wrote:
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> Hi Dan,
>
>
> I've been busy to write any comments, but I thought I'd quickly on
> this photo.
>
> First, it took me some time to figure out _who_ is flying.
> Then, I realized what it was.  I like the colors and the light, but
> I think  the framing is not that good to make a connection between
> the helicopter and the sun.
> If you didn't crop it, and hence don't have more around the helicopter,
> I would actually consider chopping [!] it off completely, for a nice
> picture of the sunset.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
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> Tue Jul 29 09:16:41 EDT 2014
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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Igor Roshchin]

Hi Dan,


I've been busy to write any comments, but I thought I'd quickly on
this photo.

First, it took me some time to figure out _who_ is flying.
Then, I realized what it was.  I like the colors and the light, but
I think  the framing is not that good to make a connection between 
the helicopter and the sun.
If you didn't crop it, and hence don't have more around the helicopter, 
I would actually consider chopping [!] it off completely, for a nice 
picture of the sunset.

Cheers,

Igor



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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Paul and Attila!
Yes, Paul, I agree that a longer exposure would have improved the
image by showing motion in the chopper blades.  Unfortunately, we were
on the way to our car when I noticed the chopper heading into the
sunset, and I had only a moment to put down the other things I was
carrying, open the camera bag, and pick up the camera before the
chopper move out of this nice position relative to the sunset.  I
don't think I even had time to check the camera settings -- I just
snapped and they it was out of position.

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On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Paul  wrote:
> Nice colors.  I like the placement of the helicopter.  Minor nit...a longer
> exposure would have shown a little motion in the chopper blades.
>
> -p
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>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17822233
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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Attila Boros]

Like it!

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Re: PESO: Flying into the Sunset

[Paul]

Nice colors.  I like the placement of the helicopter.  Minor nit...a 
longer exposure would have shown a little motion in the chopper blades.


-p

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Re: PESO - Flying

[Bruce Walker]

That's really good, both as a demo of the kit and as a lovely portrait.

Paul, did you shoot wide open at f2.8? So then I would gather that the
result is f4.0 with the TC.


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> some pretty quick acton. The combination makes a nice compact long zoom.
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[mike wilson]

On 28/03/2014, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>...I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.
>
> But did you enjoy the trip ?

It was a whoop.

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> - Original Message -
> From: "mike wilson" 
> Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>
>
>> On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>>>So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
>>>
>>> Only when singing your swan song.
>>
>> I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was
>> so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.
>>
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Alan C" 
>>> Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>>>
>>>
>>> So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Paul Stenquist
>>> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
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>>> Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>>>
>>> Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S.,
>>> including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native
>>> species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered
>>> invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native
>>> Trumpeter
>>> swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people
>>> who
>>> get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which
>>> are
>>> powerful enough to break a man’s leg.
>>>
>>> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close
>>> relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But
>>> most
>>> those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans.
>>> Butchering
>>> a
>>> Mute Swan is a big job.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
>>>> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
>>>>
>>>> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than
>>>> that!
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>>>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X
>>>>> converter,
>>>>>
>>>>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
>>>>>
>>>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[mike wilson]

On 28/03/2014, Bob W-PDML  wrote:
> On 28 Mar 2014, at 13:28, "mike wilson"  wrote:
>>
>> On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller  wrote:
 So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
>>>
>>> Only when singing your swan song.
>>
>> I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was
>> so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.
>>>
>
>> Ledahosen
>
> That swan for the classicists, you smartypants, you!

Mute point.

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Ken Waller]

...I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.


But did you enjoy the trip ?

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- Original Message - 
From: "mike wilson" 

Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version



On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller  wrote:

So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?


Only when singing your swan song.


I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was
so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.


- Original Message -
From: "Alan C" 
Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version


So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?

Alan C

-Original Message-
From: Paul Stenquist
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S.,
including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native
species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered
invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native 
Trumpeter
swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people 
who
get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which 
are

powerful enough to break a man’s leg.

Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close
relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But
most
those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. 
Butchering

a
Mute Swan is a big job.

Paul
On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell 
wrote:


Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
distracting - would it be better with that cropped?

Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than
that!
Chris

On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X 
converter,


f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg



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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Bob W-PDML]

On 28 Mar 2014, at 13:28, "mike wilson"  wrote:
> 
> On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>> So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
>> 
>> Only when singing your swan song.
> 
> I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was
> so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.
>> 

> Ledahosen

That swan for the classicists, you smartypants, you!

B

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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On 27/03/2014, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
>
> Only when singing your swan song.

I was going to make a pun leading from Lieder to Ledahosen but it was
so complex I forgot the beginning by the time I arrived at the end.

> - Original Message -
> From: "Alan C" 
> Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>
>
> So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>
> Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S.,
> including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native
> species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered
> invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter
> swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who
> get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are
> powerful enough to break a man’s leg.
>
> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close
> relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But
> most
> those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering
> a
> Mute Swan is a big job.
>
> Paul
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell 
> wrote:
>
>> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
>> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
>>
>> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than
>> that!
>> Chris
>>
>> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter,
>>>
>>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Ken Waller]

So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?


Only when singing your swan song.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Alan C" 

Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version


So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S.,
including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native
species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered
invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter
swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who
get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are
powerful enough to break a man’s leg.

Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close
relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most
those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a
Mute Swan is a big job.

Paul
On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell 
wrote:


Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
distracting - would it be better with that cropped?

Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
Chris

On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400


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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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On Mar 25, 2014, at 3:26 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> On 24 March 2014 13:41, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., 
>> including Michigan, they're just as much a problem. They are not a native 
>> species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered 
>> invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter 
>> swan.
> 
> I didn't realise that they were an invader. We've got major issues
> with giant freshwater crayfish, Japanese knotweed and the dreaded grey
> squirrel
> 
>> They're also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get 
>> too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are 
>> powerful enough to break a man's leg.
>> 
>> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close 
>> relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most 
>> those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a 
>> Mute Swan is a big job.
> 
> The swans in the UK mostly belong to the Queen, or so it's said.

She must have been a very naughty girl to deserve such a fate.

Paul
> In
> the past people caught with a swan supper have been incarcerated in
> the Tower or, even worse, been transported to Australia...
> 
> Chris
>> 
>> Paul
>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>> 
>>> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
>>> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
>>> 
>>> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
>>> Chris
>>> 
>>> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
 Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
 f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
 
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[John]

On 3/25/2014 3:26 AM, Chris Mitchell wrote:



The swans in the UK mostly belong to the Queen, or so it's said. In
the past people caught with a swan supper have been incarcerated in
the Tower or, even worse, been transported to Australia...

Chris


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_Upping

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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On 24 March 2014 13:41, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., 
> including Michigan, they're just as much a problem. They are not a native 
> species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered 
> invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter 
> swan.

I didn't realise that they were an invader. We've got major issues
with giant freshwater crayfish, Japanese knotweed and the dreaded grey
squirrel

>They're also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get too 
>close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are powerful 
>enough to break a man's leg.
>
> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, 
> the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who 
> wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan 
> is a big job.

The swans in the UK mostly belong to the Queen, or so it's said. In
the past people caught with a swan supper have been incarcerated in
the Tower or, even worse, been transported to Australia...

Chris
>
> Paul
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>
>> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
>> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
>>
>> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
>> Chris
>>
>> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
>>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
>>>
>>> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[John]

Only if your name is Siegfried or Odette.

On 3/24/2014 10:05 AM, Alan C wrote:

So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S.,
including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a
native species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are
considered invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the
native Trumpeter swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known
to attack people who get too close to their nests.They bite and slap
with their wings, which are powerful enough to break a man’s leg.

Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close
relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But
most those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans.
Butchering a Mute Swan is a big job.

Paul
On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell 
wrote:


Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
distracting - would it be better with that cropped?

Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than
that!
Chris

On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X
converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg


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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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On 24 Mar 2014, at 13:42, "Paul Stenquist"  wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, 
> the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who 
> wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan 
> is a big job.

Not good for gout, but you can find plenty of historical recipes for it. I 
would imagine the gizards taste nice as a confit:

Salt 1kg if them abundantly and leave to marinate 12 hours. Rinse and drain 
them. Warm 1kg of  duck fat, add the gizards and add 3 cloves of garlic in 
their skins, a sprig of thyme and a bay leaf. Simmer gently for at least 1 
hour. Check they are cooked, then let them cool down.

These will keep, covered in the duck fat, for up to a fortnight in the fridge.

In Britain all swans bilong Mrs. Kwin and I don't think she lets us eat them.

B


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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?

That’s ice. I left it in because it seemed to give it some time and place 
reference. Perhaps a prettier pic without it.

Paul
> 
> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
> Chris
> 


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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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That seems to be true. I don’t sneak up on swans. We try to ignore each other.

Paul
On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Alan C  wrote:

> So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
> 
> Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., 
> including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native 
> species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered 
> invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter 
> swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who 
> get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are 
> powerful enough to break a man’s leg.
> 
> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, 
> the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who 
> wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan 
> is a big job.
> 
> Paul
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
> 
>> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
>> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
>> 
>> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
>> Chris
>> 
>> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Alan C]

So Swan Lake is a dangerous place?

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Paul Stenquist

Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:41 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., 
including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native 
species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered 
invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter 
swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who 
get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are 
powerful enough to break a man’s leg.


Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close 
relative, the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most 
those who wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a 
Mute Swan is a big job.


Paul
On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  
wrote:



Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
distracting - would it be better with that cropped?

Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
Chris

On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400


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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Daniel J. Matyola]

A park near us had to eliminate the swans from its pond, because they
were injuring young children.

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., 
> including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native 
> species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered 
> invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter 
> swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who 
> get too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are 
> powerful enough to break a man’s leg.
>
> Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, 
> the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who 
> wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan 
> is a big job.
>
> Paul
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:
>
>> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
>> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
>>
>> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
>> Chris
>>
>> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
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>>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Paul Stenquist]

Mute swans are much prettier than geese, but in some parts of the U.S., 
including Michigan, they’re just as much a problem. They are not a native 
species but were introduced from Europe many years ago and are considered 
invasive. They multiply rapidly and have squeezed out the native Trumpeter 
swan. They’re also very aggressive and have been known to attack people who get 
too close to their nests.They bite and slap with their wings, which are 
powerful enough to break a man’s leg.

Swans are supposedly good to eat, allegedly better than their close relative, 
the goose. Some states have opened a swan hunting season. But most those who 
wish to dine on swan go for the smaller Tundra Swans. Butchering a Mute Swan is 
a big job.

Paul
On Mar 24, 2014, at 3:12 AM, Chris Mitchell  wrote:

> Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
> distracting - would it be better with that cropped?
> 
> Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
> Chris
> 
> On 23 March 2014 17:54, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Chris Mitchell]

Very nice. I find the light bit of water at the top a little
distracting - would it be better with that cropped?

Not sure of the flying rat reference. They're much more elegant than that!
Chris

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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Been there, done that.
On Mar 23, 2014, at 10:53 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

> Cut and paste editing usually benefits from pasting.  I cut out a big part, 
> and tried to rearrange my thoughts, obviously I failed in more ways than one.
> 
> 
> On 3/23/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>> 
>>> Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright 
>>> scene even with a slow lens will.
>> I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re 
>> trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help.
>> 
>> 
>>> The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline.
>>> 
>>> On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:
 correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
 TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
 down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
 lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
 F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
 say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
 open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
 whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
 as the lens can go
 
 Alastair
 
 On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and 
> it worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.
> 
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:
> 
>> Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my 
>> old Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 
>> 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 
>> f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of 
>> course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at 
>> f9 - f11.
>> 
>> Alan C
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM
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>> Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>> 
>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[P.J. Alling]

Cut and paste editing usually benefits from pasting.  I cut out a big 
part, and tried to rearrange my thoughts, obviously I failed in more 
ways than one.



On 3/23/2014 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:


Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright 
scene even with a slow lens will.

I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re 
trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help.



The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline.

On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
as the lens can go

Alastair

On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it 
worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.

On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:


Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x 
teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that 
combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 
& see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm 
still works at f9 - f11.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
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Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 
1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Bruce Walker]

Paul Stenquist blurted:
> I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea
> what you’re trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help.

Mark!


On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 7:26 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:
>
>> Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright 
>> scene even with a slow lens will.
>
> I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re 
> trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help.
>
>
>> The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline.
>>
>> On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:
>>> correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
>>> TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
>>> down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
>>> lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
>>> F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
>>> say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
>>> open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
>>> whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
>>> as the lens can go
>>>
>>> Alastair
>>>
>>> On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
 I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it 
 worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.

 On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old 
> Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 
> f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a 
> distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of course. It will be 
> interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11.
>
> Alan C
>
> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM
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> Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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On Mar 23, 2014, at 6:25 PM, P.J. Alling  wrote:

> Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a bright 
> scene even with a slow lens will.  

I may have had a couple of cocktails today, but I have no idea what you’re 
trying to say here, and I doubt that total sobriety would help.


> The maximum aperture of the primary lens is only a guideline.
> 
> On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:
>> correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
>> TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
>> down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
>> lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
>> F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
>> say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
>> open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
>> whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
>> as the lens can go
>> 
>> Alastair
>> 
>> On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>>> I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it 
>>> worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>>> 
 Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old 
 Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 
 f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a 
 distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of course. It will be 
 interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11.
 
 Alan C
 
 -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
 Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM
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 Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
 
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[John]

On 3/23/2014 4:58 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Paul Stenquist :


Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X
converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400

http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17716268&size=lg



Very nice.  The diffuse reflection adds a subtle impact.

But 'Flying Rat'?  Seems a little harsh.  Are they not widely loved?




Besides, if Mute Swans are "flying rats" what do you call pigeons (Rock 
Doves)?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Dove

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Bruce Walker]

He's probably mute with fury at your pejorative caption.


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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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Well, actually it's the EV of the scene you're trying to focus on a 
bright scene even with a slow lens will.  The maximum aperture of the 
primary lens is only a guideline.


On 3/23/2014 5:47 PM, Alastair Robertson wrote:

correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
as the lens can go

Alastair

On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist  wrote:

I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it 
worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.

On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:


Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old Vivitar MC 2x 
teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 f4.5. I'll try that 
combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a distant subject with the K7 
& see what happens. MF, of course. It will be interesting to see if the AF confirm 
still works at f9 - f11.

Alan C

-Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, f5.6, 
1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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correct me if I am wrong, but it is the maximum aperture of the lens
TC that matters on an automatic lens, not what you have stopped it
down to, since the AF is done with the lens wide open just before the
lens is stopped down and the shutter opens.  So a setting of F22 on an
F5.6 setup will make no difference to the AF capability compared with
say F8.  Putting a TC on a slow lens is a problem because even wide
open, the light levels are already too low for accurate AF.  I doubt
whether Alan's F9-11 combination will allow AF because this is as open
as the lens can go

Alastair

On 24 March 2014 09:25, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> I've tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it 
> worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.
>
> On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:
>
>> Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old 
>> Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 
>> f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a 
>> distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of course. It will be 
>> interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11.
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
>> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2014 7:54 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: PESO Flying Rat, European Version
>>
>> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
>> f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400
>>
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Paul Stenquist :

Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X  
converter, f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400


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Very nice.  The diffuse reflection adds a subtle impact.

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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

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I’ve tried autofocus at up to f22 with the 1.5X and the DA8 60-250, and it 
worked fine, although that was with a high contrast scene.

On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old 
> Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 
> f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a 
> distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of course. It will be 
> interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11.
> 
> Alan C
> 
> -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist
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> Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Alan. Not sure what the range might have been. I would guesstimate it at 
about 75 feet.

On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Alan C  wrote:

> Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old 
> Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 
> f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a 
> distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of course. It will be 
> interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11.
> 
> Alan C
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Re: PESO Flying Rat, European Version

[Alan C]

Very nice. What was the range, Paul? You've inspired me to dig out my old 
Vivitar MC 2x teleconverter which I used to use with a Vivitar (A) 75-200 
f4.5. I'll try that combination & also with the FA100-300 f4.5-5.6 on a 
distant subject with the K7 & see what happens. MF, of course. It will be 
interesting to see if the AF confirm still works at f9 - f11.


Alan C

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Shot on a lake this afternoon. K-3 DA* 60-250/4 with the 1.4X converter, 
f5.6, 1/2500, 350mm, ISO 400


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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Mark C]

Nice subject and lighting - I likethe rock in the foreground and the 
placement of the goose in the frame. Great highlight in the eye. The 
golden light seems a little dark to my eye - hard to get exactly the 
right balance.


Amazing that these birds were near extinction a few decades ago. Too bad 
other species did not rebound as robustly.


Mark

PS: I use the Tokina 400 f5.6 AX-X lens as well, and have to say that it 
is a very good performer.


On 9/7/2013 10:34 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this for 
quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post directly to it.  
Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on my own site.  I'm open to 
suggestions from the group if this doesn't work too well.

Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680

Pentax K5
Tokina AT-X 400
ISO 800
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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[John]

On 9/7/2013 11:48 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Bruce Dayton :


Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing
this for quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post
directly to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on
my own site.  I'm open to suggestions from the group if this doesn't
work too well.

Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680





Beautiful bird - but I take it they are not widely loved.

As others have mentioned, I'd like to see the bird's head lighted a bit.




They're a pretty foul fowl.

We have a number of flood control lakes around here that have been
turned into parks with green-way walking/riding paths around them.
Canada geese turn what could be a lovely evening's walk into a stroll
through a minefield. There's a reason "like shit trough a goose" became
a cliché.

It's especially bad where kids feed them bread.

Raleigh recently enacted an ordinance prohibiting feeding.


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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Brian Walters]

Quoting Bruce Dayton :

Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing  
this for quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can  
post directly to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the  
HTML on my own site.  I'm open to suggestions from the group if this  
doesn't work too well.


Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680




Beautiful bird - but I take it they are not widely loved.

As others have mentioned, I'd like to see the bird's head lighted a bit.


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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[knarf]

Lovely golden light. We have many of these to send down so you can take more 
beautiful photos like this.  ;-)

Nice one!

Cheers,
frank

Bruce Dayton  wrote:
>Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this
>for quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post
>directly to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on
>my own site.  I'm open to suggestions from the group if this doesn't
>work too well.
>
>Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680
>
>Pentax K5
>Tokina AT-X 400
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>1/1250 sec

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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Lovely image of a rotten bird.
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On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this for 
> quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post directly to it.  
> Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on my own site.  I'm open 
> to suggestions from the group if this doesn't work too well.
>
> Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680
>
> Pentax K5
> Tokina AT-X 400
> ISO 800
> F/8
> 1/1250 sec
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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Eactivist]

Very nice light, but not that intriquing  subject-wise or composition-wise. 
You can do tons better.

HTH, Marnie aka  Doe ;-)

In a message dated 9/7/2013 10:32:48 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
bruce.wal...@gmail.com writes:
> Thought I would take a stab at posting a  PESO.  Haven't been doing this 
for quite a while and decided to try Flickr  as Aperture can post directly 
to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing  with the HTML on my own site.  
I'm open to suggestions from the group if  this doesn't work too well.
>
> Anyway, here it is taken at the  golden light of sunset:
>
>  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680
>
>  Pentax K5
> Tokina AT-X 400
> ISO 800
> F/8
> 1/1250 sec   


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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Bruce Walker]

Might not be enough copyable content to do a decent job with CAF. You
need to mask out stuff you don't want cloned, like the goose and the
beach area, and there's not a lot of blue. I'd try simply stretching
the blue area upward a little. 5% likely won't be noticeable -- except
to us now that we're talking about it. ;-)


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM, John  wrote:
> The top is one of those places content aware fill might work.
>
>
> On 9/7/2013 10:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>>
>> Nice shot!
>>
>> To my eye, it could stand to be just a hair brighter. The framing is
>> a bit tight up top, but I suspect you don't have any more image area
>> to work with. :-)
>>
>> G
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Bruce Dayton 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing
>>> this for quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can
>>> post directly to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the
>>> HTML on my own site.  I'm open to suggestions from the group if
>>> this doesn't work too well.
>>>
>>> Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680
>>
>>
>>>
>>
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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Bruce Walker]

I like it. You've got him at a pretty nice angle and pose. I'm not
very fond of Canada Geese as our shores and parks are often overrun
with them. Very messy things.

Regarding Flickr: there's been a bit of a backlash against
Flickr-hosted PESOs of late. The user interface drives a few vocal
PDML members to distraction and several won't even go there. Trouble
is, there's no single photo-hosting site that makes _everyone_ happy
so you might as well pick one that works for you and stick with it.
I'd say the majority of PDMLers are okay with PESOs on Flickr.

One work-around for Flickr's annoyances is to post a Flickriver.com
link to your image instead of the native Flickr link. Flickriver's UI
is simpler and doesn't randomly toss you into an annoying Ken Burns
dizzying slideshow.

I too am a Flickr user for various reasons including it being well
supported in Lightroom.


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this for 
> quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post directly to it.  
> Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on my own site.  I'm open 
> to suggestions from the group if this doesn't work too well.
>
> Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680
>
> Pentax K5
> Tokina AT-X 400
> ISO 800
> F/8
> 1/1250 sec
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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[John]

The top is one of those places content aware fill might work.

On 9/7/2013 10:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

Nice shot!

To my eye, it could stand to be just a hair brighter. The framing is
a bit tight up top, but I suspect you don't have any more image area
to work with. :-)

G

On Sep 7, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Bruce Dayton 
wrote:


Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing
this for quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can
post directly to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the
HTML on my own site.  I'm open to suggestions from the group if
this doesn't work too well.

Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680








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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[John]

Looks good to me.

On 9/7/2013 10:34 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing
this for quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post
directly to it.  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML
on my own site.  I'm open to suggestions from the group if this
doesn't work too well.

Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680

 Pentax K5 Tokina AT-X 400 ISO 800 F/8 1/1250 sec




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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Bruce]

I have posted your suggestions to the same link.  Thanks for looking and 
offering your ideas. 

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On Sep 7, 2013, at 7:43 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:

> Nice shot! 
> 
> To my eye, it could stand to be just a hair brighter. The framing is a bit 
> tight up top, but I suspect you don't have any more image area to work with. 
> :-)
> 
> G
> 
> On Sep 7, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> 
>> Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this for 
>> quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post directly to it. 
>>  Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on my own site.  I'm 
>> open to suggestions from the group if this doesn't work too well.
>> 
>> Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680
> 
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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Jack Davis]

Like it, Bruce. I'd have to try lightening the black on the upper neck and 
head, especially the eye area. Defining the eye would bring it more alive.
The upper frame background is not what I'd chose, but like you, I'd settle for 
it in this case.

Jack

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From: Bruce Dayton 
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Sent: Saturday, September 7, 2013 7:34 AM
Subject: PESO - Flying Rat

Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this for 
quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post directly to it.  
Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on my own site.  I'm open to 
suggestions from the group if this doesn't work too well.

Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680

Pentax K5
Tokina AT-X 400
ISO 800
F/8
1/1250 sec


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Re: PESO - Flying Rat

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Nice shot! 

To my eye, it could stand to be just a hair brighter. The framing is a bit 
tight up top, but I suspect you don't have any more image area to work with. :-)

G

On Sep 7, 2013, at 7:34 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> Thought I would take a stab at posting a PESO.  Haven't been doing this for 
> quite a while and decided to try Flickr as Aperture can post directly to it.  
> Much quicker and easier than dealing with the HTML on my own site.  I'm open 
> to suggestions from the group if this doesn't work too well.
> 
> Anyway, here it is taken at the golden light of sunset:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/101434682@N06/9689161611/in/set-72157635419000680


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Re: PESO - Flying "squirrel"

[knarftheria...@gmail.com]

Okay, those guys are just crazy. Darwinism in action.

;-)

Very cool photo, though. Quite spectacular !

cheers,
frank

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On May 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/05/flying-squirrel.html

Love it.  I've seen a few scary films of those guys.  It looks like something 
you'd want to print BIG.

An English guy recently managed to land one of those suits without a parachute, 
but he cheated a bit by having a huge pile of cardboard boxes to land on.  
Still takes bigger balls than I have.

Dave


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Re: PESO - Flying "squirrel"

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Moose and Squirrel must die.
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On 5/30/2012 5:51 PM, David J Brooks wrote:

Nice perspective Bullwinkle.:-)

Dave

On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:10 PM, AlunFoto  wrote:

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The List Archive has currently exceeded its bandwidth limits for the
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Re: PESO - Flying "squirrel"

[David J Brooks]

Nice perspective Bullwinkle.:-)

Dave

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Re: PESO - Flying "squirrel"

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On May 30, 2012, at 7:10 AM, AlunFoto wrote:

> http://alunfoto.blogspot.com/2012/05/flying-squirrel.html

Love it.  I've seen a few scary films of those guys.  It looks like something 
you'd want to print BIG.

An English guy recently managed to land one of those suits without a parachute, 
but he cheated a bit by having a huge pile of cardboard boxes to land on.  
Still takes bigger balls than I have.

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Re: PESO: Flying HIgh

[Paul Stenquist]

Thanks Frank. 

On Apr 15, 2012, at 10:44 PM, knarftheria...@gmail.com wrote:

> Quite the look of determination on Grace's face.
> 
> Great shot by you. Perfect timing!
> 
> cheers,
> frank
> 
> "What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof." -- 
> Christopher Hitchens
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> --- Original Message ---
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RE: PESO: Flying HIgh

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Quite the look of determination on Grace's face.

Great shot by you. Perfect timing!

cheers,
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Re: PESO: Flying HIgh

[Paul Stenquist]

On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

> I like her serious expression.. as if she were approaching the swinging high 
> as an important task.

It is an important task! She has to compete with the other girls on the school 
playground, so she's practicing when she's at the park with me:-). At least, 
thats my take on it.
Paul
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> ann
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Re: PESO: Flying HIgh

[Ann Sanfedele]

I like her serious expression.. as if she were approaching the swinging 
high as an important task.


ann

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Re: PESO: Flying HIgh

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I love the way her hair is flying in every direction!  Great catch.

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Re: PESO -- Flying home to Egret

[David J Brooks]

I'll egret this later i;m sure. Good shot.

Dave

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> Hey it's not much but it's a Pun.
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1604247/PESO/PESO%20--%20flyingegreti.html
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Re: PESO -- Flying home to Egret

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On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 5:23 AM, P. J. Alling
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As Bob said, that's a good catch.

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Re: PESO -- Flying home to Egret

[Bob Sullivan]

Good catch!  That F 70-210/4-5.6 ED zoom is a nice autofocus lens.
Regards,  Bob S.

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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Ken Waller]

Better !

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bruce Dayton" 

Subject: Re: PESO - Flying Swings



Based on several comments wishing to see the lower left hand object
removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that it gave some
balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit too open.

Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm

Original
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm


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Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:

LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually works well in this shot.

LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black threshold" level to knock
LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.

LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock out the mystery
LC> shadow is worthwhile.


LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
like.

Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5

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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Jack Davis]

Thinking that was likely the case, I tried cloning a crop that extended beyond 
the bottom, but I found the swing cables to be too much of a problem. While I 
imagine they could be tediously dealt with, however much I'd like it to be, 
it's not my image.
It has now been deleted from my files.

Jack

--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Flying Swings
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:26 AM
> Sorry, there is no more image to
> show, the original was full frame,
> so this one just has a side crop.
> 
> -- 
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> Bruce
> 
> 
> Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:15:07 AM, you wrote:
> 
> JD> Yes..better! Do you have a smidgen more available at
> the bottom?
> 
> JD> Jack
> 
> JD> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Bruce Dayton 
> wrote:
> 
> >> From: Bruce Dayton 
> >> Subject: Re: PESO - Flying Swings
> >> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> >> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:48 PM
> >> Based on several comments wishing to
> >> see the lower left hand object
> >> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt
> that
> >> it gave some
> >> balance to the image - without it, the left side
> felt a bit
> >> too open.
> >> 
> >> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you
> think.
> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
> >> 
> >> Original
> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> Bruce
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you
> wrote:
> >> 
> >> LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky
> actually
> >> works well in this shot.
> >> 
> >> LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black
> >> threshold" level to knock  
> >> LC> down a little of the noise in the
> silhouettes.
> >> 
> >> LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side
> to knock
> >> out the mystery  
> >> LC> shadow is worthwhile.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton
> wrote:
> >> 
> >> >> I rather like the effect here - I realize
> it is
> >> noisy, but it really
> >> >> doesn't bother me in this presentation. 
> Feel
> >> free to comment if you
> >> >> like.
> >> >>
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> Handheld
> >> >> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
> >> >>
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Bruce Dayton]

Sorry, there is no more image to show, the original was full frame,
so this one just has a side crop.

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Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:15:07 AM, you wrote:

JD> Yes..better! Do you have a smidgen more available at the bottom?

JD> Jack

JD> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

>> From: Bruce Dayton 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Flying Swings
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:48 PM
>> Based on several comments wishing to
>> see the lower left hand object
>> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that
>> it gave some
>> balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit
>> too open.
>> 
>> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
>> 
>> Original
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually
>> works well in this shot.
>> 
>> LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black
>> threshold" level to knock  
>> LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.
>> 
>> LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock
>> out the mystery  
>> LC> shadow is worthwhile.
>> 
>> 
>> LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> 
>> >> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is
>> noisy, but it really
>> >> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel
>> free to comment if you
>> >> like.
>> >>
>> >> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
>> >> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
>> >>
>> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[paul stenquist]

I like the crop. Well done.
Paul
On Dec 31, 2009, at 8:15 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

> Yes..better! Do you have a smidgen more available at the bottom?
> 
> Jack
> 
> --- On Wed, 12/30/09, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> 
>> From: Bruce Dayton 
>> Subject: Re: PESO - Flying Swings
>> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:48 PM
>> Based on several comments wishing to
>> see the lower left hand object
>> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that
>> it gave some
>> balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit
>> too open.
>> 
>> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
>> 
>> Original
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Bruce
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually
>> works well in this shot.
>> 
>> LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black
>> threshold" level to knock  
>> LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.
>> 
>> LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock
>> out the mystery  
>> LC> shadow is worthwhile.
>> 
>> 
>> LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>> 
>>>> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is
>> noisy, but it really
>>>> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel
>> free to comment if you
>>>> like.
>>>> 
>>>> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
>>>> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
>>>> 
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Jack Davis]

Yes..better! Do you have a smidgen more available at the bottom?

Jack

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Bruce Dayton  wrote:

> From: Bruce Dayton 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Flying Swings
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:48 PM
> Based on several comments wishing to
> see the lower left hand object
> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that
> it gave some
> balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit
> too open.
> 
> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
> 
> Original
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
> 
> 
> --
> Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:
> 
> LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually
> works well in this shot.
> 
> LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black
> threshold" level to knock  
> LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.
> 
> LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock
> out the mystery  
> LC> shadow is worthwhile.
> 
> 
> LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> >> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is
> noisy, but it really
> >> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel
> free to comment if you
> >> like.
> >>
> >> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
> >> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
> >>
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Brian Walters]

I like the cropped version but I wonder (like Larry) whether it would
work better as a pure silhouette.


Cheers

Brian

Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia


On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 21:48 -0800, "Bruce Dayton"
 wrote:
> Based on several comments wishing to see the lower left hand object
> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that it gave some
> balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit too open.
> 
> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
> 
> Original
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
> 
> 
> --
> Bruce
> 
> 
> 
> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:
> 
> LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually works well in this shot.
> 
> LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black threshold" level to knock  
> LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.
> 
> LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock out the mystery  
> LC> shadow is worthwhile.
> 
> 
> LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
> 
> >> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
> >> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
> >> like.
> >>
> >> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
> >> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
> >>
> >> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
> >>
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> >>
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[P. J. Alling]

I didn't complain but the new version is better.



On 12/31/2009 12:48 AM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

Based on several comments wishing to see the lower left hand object
removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that it gave some
balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit too open.

Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm

Original
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm


--
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Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:

LC>  Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually works well in this shot.

LC>  It may be worth trying to raise the "black threshold" level to knock
LC>  down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.

LC>  I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock out the mystery
LC>  shadow is worthwhile.


LC>  On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

   

I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
like.

Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5

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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[frank theriault]

On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:48 AM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Based on several comments wishing to see the lower left hand object
> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that it gave some
> balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit too open.
>
> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
>
> Original
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm

The object in the original didn't bother me at all, but I have to say
that the cropped/cloned out version has much more impact to me.  I
prefer it to the original.

cheers,
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Bob Sullivan]

I do like the weight in the original.  Bob S.

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Bruce Dayton  wrote:
> Based on several comments wishing to see the lower left hand object
> removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that it gave some
> balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit too open.
>
> Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm
>
> Original
> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
>
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> Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:
>
> LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually works well in this shot.
>
> LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black threshold" level to knock
> LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.
>
> LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock out the mystery
> LC> shadow is worthwhile.
>
>
> LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:
>
>>> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
>>> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
>>> like.
>>>
>>> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
>>> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
>>>
>>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
>>>
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Bruce Dayton]

Based on several comments wishing to see the lower left hand object
removed, I have done so.  I had originally felt that it gave some
balance to the image - without it, the left side felt a bit too open.

Anyway, take a look at the crop and see what you think.
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659_1.htm

Original
http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm


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Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 3:28:24 PM, you wrote:

LC> Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually works well in this shot.

LC> It may be worth trying to raise the "black threshold" level to knock  
LC> down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.

LC> I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock out the mystery  
LC> shadow is worthwhile.


LC> On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:

>> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
>> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
>> like.
>>
>> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
>> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
>>
>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[Larry Colen]

Great shot.  The noise in the sky actually works well in this shot.

It may be worth trying to raise the "black threshold" level to knock  
down a little of the noise in the silhouettes.


I can't tell whether cropping the left side to knock out the mystery  
shadow is worthwhile.



On Dec 29, 2009, at 10:43 PM, Bruce Dayton wrote:


I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
like.

Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5

http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm

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Re: PESO - Flying Swings

[paul stenquist]

Interesting shot.
I agree with Ken in regard to the structure at lower left. A crop to square or 
even vertical might work very well here.
Paul
On Dec 30, 2009, at 3:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> I like it as is, but I believe an improvement would be to eliminate the 
> thingy in the LHL corner.
> Noise not an issue for me in this instance.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message - From: "Bruce Dayton" 
> Subject: PESO - Flying Swings
> 
> 
>> I rather like the effect here - I realize it is noisy, but it really
>> doesn't bother me in this presentation.  Feel free to comment if you
>> like.
>> 
>> Pentax K20D, DA 18-55A AL @ 24mm, Handheld
>> ISO 6400, 1/500 sec @ f/9.5
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>> http://www.daytonphoto.com/PAW/bkd20_0659.htm
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