Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Lovely shot. I would'nt change a thing. Dave Brooks From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:14:59 -0600 My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Thanks. rg -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
E.R.N. Reed wrote: Shel Belinkoff wrote: The image looks a bit too reddish on my monitor. Ran it through a couple of color checkers to verify - so it's not my monitor calibration that's off. I fiddled a bit with the color inPS and found something that looked a bit more natural. Of course, color is such a subjective thing wrt what one sees and what one likes, so take my comment with that in mind. But to my eyes, it doesn't have that old style, warm tone at all. [Original Message] From: Gonz My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. I agree with Shel about the reddish tone. Before I opened the picture, I was rather expecting something more like sepia. Yellowish-brownish, rather than reddish. I trimmed the rest of Shel's comments 'cause I didn't agree about the blur. Incidentally, when I attempt soft for a portrait (not very often, lately) I use an old UV filter which I've sprayed lightly with matte spray. Don't know if that would give you results you'd like. Thanks for the comments. I've tried the soft front filter technique with limited success. I've been playing around with the tone too. I realized that it looks alot warmer on LCD displays than my CRT monitor and will play with it so that its pretty much in the middle of both. ERN
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Gonz Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. The colour reminds me of some Autochromes that my father in law has. If you are going for an old look, I'd say you've hit the mark pretty close. It's a very good portrait. Thank you Bill, thats basically what I'm trying to get. William Robb
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Excellent shot. Well composed, well executed. Paul On Feb 3, 2006, at 11:09 AM, Tom C wrote: Very nice Gonz. Frameable and displayable AS-IS in my opinion. Tom C. From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:14:59 -0600 My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Thanks. rg -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
In a message dated 2/3/2006 7:16:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Thanks. rg === Nice. Very. Bet she likes it a lot. Marnie aka Doe
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Don't change a thing. -- Mark Roberts Photography and writing www.robertstech.com
RE: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Very nice Gonz. Frameable and displayable AS-IS in my opinion. Tom C. From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:14:59 -0600 My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Thanks. rg -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Don't change a thing. Thanks Mark. -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Tom C wrote: Very nice Gonz. Frameable and displayable AS-IS in my opinion. Thanks Tom. I think I will. Tom C. From: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot Date: Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:14:59 -0600 My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Thanks. rg -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
- Original Message - From: Gonz Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. The colour reminds me of some Autochromes that my father in law has. If you are going for an old look, I'd say you've hit the mark pretty close. It's a very good portrait. William Robb
RE: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Hi, The image looks a bit too reddish on my monitor. Ran it through a couple of color checkers to verify - so it's not my monitor calibration that's off. I fiddled a bit with the color inPS and found something that looked a bit more natural. Of course, color is such a subjective thing wrt what one sees and what one likes, so take my comment with that in mind. But to my eyes, it doesn't have that old style, warm tone at all. More important, I don't like the way the blur looks on this one. The earlier shot, while not without problems, looked nicer, more natural or old fashioned, if that's the look you're for which your striving. I really think that an old lens, used at wider apertures, will give you the look. Photoshop can only do so much - at some point you've got to rely upon your equipment to do the job, or at least give you a good, strong start. The soft lens that you're looking for may help, but, from what I've seen over the years of the photos it produces, it too lacks that certain something that's so readily found in older glass. BTW, I love that Hedberg tag Shel [Original Message] From: Gonz My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome.
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
If Gonz was going for an old color look, like from old slides, especially those that have faded over the years, then I might agree with you. But, as an old look based on BW photography, not even close, IMO. Shel [Original Message] From: William Robb The colour reminds me of some Autochromes that my father in law has. If you are going for an old look, I'd say you've hit the mark pretty close. It's a very good portrait. From: Gonz Subject: PESO PAW Another soft shot My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Shel Belinkoff wrote: Hi, The image looks a bit too reddish on my monitor. Ran it through a couple of color checkers to verify - so it's not my monitor calibration that's off. I fiddled a bit with the color inPS and found something that looked a bit more natural. Of course, color is such a subjective thing wrt what one sees and what one likes, so take my comment with that in mind. But to my eyes, it doesn't have that old style, warm tone at all. Thanks Shel, I do want to continue trying different tones. More important, I don't like the way the blur looks on this one. The earlier shot, while not without problems, looked nicer, more natural or old fashioned, if that's the look you're for which your striving. I really think that an old lens, used at wider apertures, will give you the look. Photoshop can only do so much - at some point you've got to rely upon your equipment to do the job, or at least give you a good, strong start. The soft lens that you're looking for may help, but, from what I've seen over the years of the photos it produces, it too lacks that certain something that's so readily found in older glass. I have a 50mm 1.2 that I can try also. BTW, I love that Hedberg tag Yeah, I picked it up when I read recently about the results of his autopsy and I went to go read a little more about him. There was a website full of his one liners, and this one made me chuckle and was camera related. Shel [Original Message] From: Gonz My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. -- Someone handed me a picture and said, This is a picture of me when I was younger. Every picture of you is when you were younger. ...Here's a picture of me when I'm older. Where'd you get that camera man? - Mitch Hedberg
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
- Original Message - From: Shel Belinkoff Subject: Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot If Gonz was going for an old color look, like from old slides, especially those that have faded over the years, then I might agree with you. But, as an old look based on BW photography, not even close, IMO. Well, it still is a colour image, so I'm not about to compare it to a black and white. Colour has been around in photography since WW1, there are some colour processes that date back 90 or more years. William Robb
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Shel Belinkoff wrote: The image looks a bit too reddish on my monitor. Ran it through a couple of color checkers to verify - so it's not my monitor calibration that's off. I fiddled a bit with the color inPS and found something that looked a bit more natural. Of course, color is such a subjective thing wrt what one sees and what one likes, so take my comment with that in mind. But to my eyes, it doesn't have that old style, warm tone at all. [Original Message] From: Gonz My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. I agree with Shel about the reddish tone. Before I opened the picture, I was rather expecting something more like sepia. Yellowish-brownish, rather than reddish. I trimmed the rest of Shel's comments 'cause I didn't agree about the blur. Incidentally, when I attempt soft for a portrait (not very often, lately) I use an old UV filter which I've sprayed lightly with matte spray. Don't know if that would give you results you'd like. ERN
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Don't change a thing. I agree with Mark. Absolutely gorgeous! (I don't care whether you've got the old portrait look or not.) BTW In this photo, your daughter looks remarkably like mine! The likeness is quite uncanny. Keith McG
Re: PESO PAW Another soft shot
Keith McGuinness wrote: Mark Roberts wrote: Gonz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My youngest, she loves drama and this was her chance to act out a little in front of the camera. I didnt make it entirely Black and White. Trying to get an old portrait look. Do I need to desaturate more? http://www.g0nz.com/4imgs/data/media/1/anframe.jpg Comments, critiques, etc. welcome. Don't change a thing. I agree with Mark. Absolutely gorgeous! (I don't care whether you've got the old portrait look or not.) Thank you Keith. I really appreciate the comment. BTW In this photo, your daughter looks remarkably like mine! The likeness is quite uncanny. Thats amazing. Now your gonna have to post a pic! Keith McG
