Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
Not really, I've already got a Bessa R and an M3, it's the digital side that's not covered. Maybe a NEX will work. -Adam On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 1:00 AM, John Coyle jco...@iinet.net.au wrote: Adam - I've got a Fed4L - any help? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 11:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES 12. If I could get a reasonably priced digital M mount camera I'd ditch all my 35mm SLR kit. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- M. Adam Maas http://www.mawz.ca Explorations of the City Around Us. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
2010/8/3 William Robb war...@gmail.com: MILC looks a lot like MILF, which is a great acronym. A Mirrorless Female? Drop the thought, they only stay pretty for /so/ long... ]=) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
On 6/8/10, Michael Beacom, discombobulated, unleashed: Finally- a Pentax Rangefinder! Except it's a fantasy that 8 or maybe 10 people share. 11. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 7:05 PM, Cotty cotty...@mac.com wrote: On 6/8/10, Michael Beacom, discombobulated, unleashed: Finally- a Pentax Rangefinder! Except it's a fantasy that 8 or maybe 10 people share. 11. -- Cheers, Cotty 12. If I could get a reasonably priced digital M mount camera I'd ditch all my 35mm SLR kit. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
Adam - I've got a Fed4L - any help? -Original Message- From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of Adam Maas Sent: Sunday, 8 August 2010 11:25 AM To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List Subject: Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES 12. If I could get a reasonably priced digital M mount camera I'd ditch all my 35mm SLR kit. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? -- When shooting in manual focus mode, shutter lag is almost imperceptible with DSLRs. I don't know if that's true of EVF cameras. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
If you put everything on Manual it's very fast. OTOH, you really have to pre-focus to get it to work. On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:38 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? -- When shooting in manual focus mode, shutter lag is almost imperceptible with DSLRs. I don't know if that's true of EVF cameras. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
-- From: P N Stenquist Subject: Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? -- When shooting in manual focus mode, shutter lag is almost imperceptible with DSLRs. I don't know if that's true of EVF cameras. Shutter lag on modern SLRs is in the range of 40ms, IIRC, which is, as you say, almost imperceptible. Viewfinder lag on modern EVFs, while I don't have the numbers at hand, are noticeable and annoyingly long. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
On Aug 6, 2010, at 10:17 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote: If you put everything on Manual it's very fast. OTOH, you really have to pre-focus to get it to work. Not really. With some practice, one can learn to focus as one pans. Another alternative is continuous autofocus, which causes no shutter lag. It was almost useless on previous Pentax cameras, but it's quite good on the K-7 and will, hopefully, be even better on the K-5. Paul On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:38 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? -- When shooting in manual focus mode, shutter lag is almost imperceptible with DSLRs. I don't know if that's true of EVF cameras. Paul PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:38 AM, P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 9:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? -- When shooting in manual focus mode, shutter lag is almost imperceptible with DSLRs. I don't know if that's true of EVF cameras. Paul Shutter lag is not an issue, viewfinder lag is definitely one, especially because the LV feed reset can be in the 200ms range. With the G1 every second frame seemed to fire before I got the LV back to frame the shot. LVIL camera's are NOT suitable for fast action or continuous frame advance. If you shoot single-frame advance and the subject is not moving very fast the lag isn't much of an issue. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Subject: Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? John, it sounds like you've never tried to capture any action with an EVF. I used a Nikon Coolpix 5700 for a few years in my work @ Ford. It was a very, very good camera for what I was mainly using it for - to capture static views of vehicles and parts, with a moveable LCD and great image quality. Initially I tried to capture some action shots - kids, birds etc. I never timed the delay between pushing the release and actually getting the image recorded but it was enough that in most cases the desired subject was almost out of the frame. I could never capture the image as I saw it when I pushed the release. You had to run it in a burst mode and hope one of the captured frame was useable. Hell even my Optio S has an optical viewfinder. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be,, YES
From: Ken Waller From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? John, it sounds like you've never tried to capture any action with an EVF. No, I haven't ... that's why I asked. I have experienced problems shooting action, both with film and with digital, due to the delay between the time I press the shutter release and the shutter operation, but I learned to compensate and overcome that. Moot in any case. I don't expect to be in the market for a new camera any time soon, and these mirrorless designs don't sound like what I will be looking for when I am. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
On Aug 6, 2010, at 6:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? When I'm shooting in manual mode I don't notice any shutter lag. A few years ago, just before I bought my K100 I went out shooting with friends. For most of the day, I used an FZ50, and truly appreciated the live histogram in the viewfinder. At the end of the day, I ran a roll of film through my SRT-101 and was blown away by how much easier it is to see through the viewfinder of an SLR. Each technology has its own strengths and weaknesses. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be, YES
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: On Aug 6, 2010, at 6:15 AM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? When I'm shooting in manual mode I don't notice any shutter lag. A few years ago, just before I bought my K100 I went out shooting with friends. For most of the day, I used an FZ50, and truly appreciated the live histogram in the viewfinder. At the end of the day, I ran a roll of film through my SRT-101 and was blown away by how much easier it is to see through the viewfinder of an SLR. Each technology has its own strengths and weaknesses. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est The FZ50's low-rez and tiny EVF is in no way comparable to the large, high-resolution units which are showing up on most LVIL cameras these days. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be,, YES
I just tried a few combinations. On MF, the E-P1 will initially enlarge the center portion of the image for focusing. (this is a nice feature). After that, the shutter release is essentially immediate. -Original Message- From: John Sessoms jsessoms...@nc.rr.com Sender: pdml-boun...@pdml.net Date: Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:17:28 To: pdml@pdml.net Reply-To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Subject: Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be,, YES From: Ken Waller From: Ken Waller Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller I dunno. Is it any greater problem than shutter lag is now? John, it sounds like you've never tried to capture any action with an EVF. No, I haven't ... that's why I asked. I have experienced problems shooting action, both with film and with digital, due to the delay between the time I press the shutter release and the shutter operation, but I learned to compensate and overcome that. Moot in any case. I don't expect to be in the market for a new camera any time soon, and these mirrorless designs don't sound like what I will be looking for when I am. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Finally- a Pentax Rangefinder! Except it's a fantasy that 8 or maybe 10 people share. Cheers, Mike -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
Just wait till you try to capture some action with the EVF Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES My problem is that I hate to compose pictures looking through a LCD screen...and so far I don't like either to do it using an electronic viewfinder... ...I am afraid I will have to get used to... - Mensaje original De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: mar,3 agosto, 2010 22:28 Asunto: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Due to my ongoing love affair with the Samsung NX10, I really hope this rumour ends up being real. I REALLY want a Pentax MILC. My opinion: A Samsung NX10 with Pentax's image processing and menu system/features, plus weather-sealing, and a line of small WR primes would be very successful. The potential of an APS-C sensor in a small body like the NX10 with a bunch of pancake primes is enormous. I know some of you will disagree, and I ask you to please vent your anger in this thread :-) Cheers, --MILCserere -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
On 3 August 2010 17:30, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Would be cool. And they'd probably sell boatloads of them. But if you'll look at the right-hand column of that page you'll see a rumor from last September about a Samyang 35mm f/1.4 for Pentax mount coming in early 2010 I'm just sayin'... :) Now there's info coming out of Spain, of all places: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35962286 K-5 above K-7 and K-r above K-x. And a mirrorless too. By the way, Mark, I stopped at Bromfield on Saturday and they said you'd just left--I missed you by a matter of minutes. We should meet up some day! --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 3 August 2010 17:30, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Would be cool. And they'd probably sell boatloads of them. But if you'll look at the right-hand column of that page you'll see a rumor from last September about a Samyang 35mm f/1.4 for Pentax mount coming in early 2010 I'm just sayin'... :) Now there's info coming out of Spain, of all places: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036message=35962286 K-5 above K-7 and K-r above K-x. And a mirrorless too. By the way, Mark, I stopped at Bromfield on Saturday and they said you'd just left--I missed you by a matter of minutes. We should meet up some day! --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
My problem is that I hate to compose pictures looking through a LCD screen...and so far I don't like either to do it using an electronic viewfinder... ...I am afraid I will have to get used to... - Mensaje original De: Miserere miser...@gmail.com Para: Pentax-Discuss Mail List pdml@pdml.net Enviado: mar,3 agosto, 2010 22:28 Asunto: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Due to my ongoing love affair with the Samsung NX10, I really hope this rumour ends up being real. I REALLY want a Pentax MILC. My opinion: A Samsung NX10 with Pentax's image processing and menu system/features, plus weather-sealing, and a line of small WR primes would be very successful. The potential of an APS-C sensor in a small body like the NX10 with a bunch of pancake primes is enormous. I know some of you will disagree, and I ask you to please vent your anger in this thread :-) Cheers, --MILCserere -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4 August 2010 07:10, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: My problem is that I hate to compose pictures looking through a LCD screen...and so far I don't like either to do it using an electronic viewfinder... ...I am afraid I will have to get used to... Not necessarily, Jaume. It will still be a few years until the high-end DSLRs go EVF, and when they do, I suspect EVFs will have evolved into something a lot better than they are today. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 4 August 2010 07:10, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: My problem is that I hate to compose pictures looking through a LCD screen...and so far I don't like either to do it using an electronic viewfinder... ...I am afraid I will have to get used to... Not necessarily, Jaume. It will still be a few years until the high-end DSLRs go EVF, and when they do, I suspect EVFs will have evolved into something a lot better than they are today. I can confidently predict that SLRs will never go exclusively EVF. A camera with only an EVF is no longer a reflex camera, by definition. EVF cameras will become more professional however, in that they will start to have weather-sealed bodies, larger sensors etc. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I actually acquired the Lumix 20mm 1.7 pancake to go with the E-P1. It's a very small package and carry everywhere camera. It's also wonderfully sharp. Pentax has a certain reputation for small cameras and I think this would appeal to there current market, especially given their experience with pancake lenses. I assumed I would hate composing on the LCD screen but adapted quickly. The E-P1 has become the camera I grab when needed and I would love to have a Pentax alternative. Some folks want FF, I was lured to the small body. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2010 07:10, Jaume Lahuerta jlah...@yahoo.com wrote: My problem is that I hate to compose pictures looking through a LCD screen...and so far I don't like either to do it using an electronic viewfinder... ...I am afraid I will have to get used to... Not necessarily, Jaume. It will still be a few years until the high-end DSLRs go EVF, and when they do, I suspect EVFs will have evolved into something a lot better than they are today. --M. -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
-- From: Miserere Subject: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Due to my ongoing love affair with the Samsung NX10, I really hope this rumour ends up being real. I REALLY want a Pentax MILC. My opinion: A Samsung NX10 with Pentax's image processing and menu system/features, plus weather-sealing, and a line of small WR primes would be very successful. The potential of an APS-C sensor in a small body like the NX10 with a bunch of pancake primes is enormous. I know some of you will disagree, and I ask you to please vent your anger in this thread :-) MILC looks a lot like MILF, which is a great acronym. As long as they don't drop real viewfinders I couldn't care less. The world is moving towards electronic viewfinders, and if I could get a little camera like that Panasonic thing that I had with me in Chicago with a compact lens set, I'd probably buy into it, if for no other reason than I like shiny things. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Due to my ongoing love affair with the Samsung NX10, I really hope this rumour ends up being real. I REALLY want a Pentax MILC. My opinion: A Samsung NX10 with Pentax's image processing and menu system/features, plus weather-sealing, and a line of small WR primes would be very successful. The potential of an APS-C sensor in a small body like the NX10 with a bunch of pancake primes is enormous. I know some of you will disagree, and I ask you to please vent your anger in this thread :-) Cheers, --MILCserere There's zero chance of my buying any NX mount LVIL camera. M mount compatibility is a requirement for me and that's impossible with NX mount. Also an NX10-based camera, even with Pentax's PRIME engine, would still lag the competition for higher ISO IQ (although it would no doubt beat the current NX bodies) as the Samsung 14MP sensor simply lags state of the art by a noticeable amount at this point. If Pentax was to use another mount, I'd say using an M variant or E mount would be the best choices. They could easily do M mount with KA-style contacts to drive AF and in doing so get the sort of backwards compatibility that K mount also has and E mount already supports full aperture coupling for a KAF3-style mount (A mount is very close to KAF3 in basic design). I'd love to see weather sealing as a LVIL feature as well. m43 would be another option, but I'd expect Pentax to be better served by sticking to their current APS-C format rather than adding a third format to the mix. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:47 PM, William Robb war...@gmail.com wrote: -- From: Miserere Subject: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Due to my ongoing love affair with the Samsung NX10, I really hope this rumour ends up being real. I REALLY want a Pentax MILC. My opinion: A Samsung NX10 with Pentax's image processing and menu system/features, plus weather-sealing, and a line of small WR primes would be very successful. The potential of an APS-C sensor in a small body like the NX10 with a bunch of pancake primes is enormous. I know some of you will disagree, and I ask you to please vent your anger in this thread :-) MILC looks a lot like MILF, which is a great acronym. As long as they don't drop real viewfinders I couldn't care less. The world is moving towards electronic viewfinders, and if I could get a little camera like that Panasonic thing that I had with me in Chicago with a compact lens set, I'd probably buy into it, if for no other reason than I like shiny things. William Robb I'd rather an EVF, which are much nicer to work with than APS-C OVF's for anything except shooting action. Note that Sony's got a couple EVF-equipped DSLR's about to be released (they use a pellix mirror to feed the phase detect AF system but otherwise use LV), I'm quite interested, a sub-$1000 DSLR that manual focuses as easily as a Panasonic G1 is a must-have to me. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I love the construct of rumor headlines: Monkeys to Fly out your Butt? The Answer Could Be Yes! Darren Addy Kearney, NE -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Pentax to Release Mirrorless Camera? The Answer Might Be YES
Miserere wrote: From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is distinct from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesnt give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Would be cool. And they'd probably sell boatloads of them. But if you'll look at the right-hand column of that page you'll see a rumor from last September about a Samyang 35mm f/1.4 for Pentax mount coming in early 2010 I'm just sayin'... :) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:30 PM, Mark Roberts m...@robertstech.com wrote: Miserere wrote: From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Would be cool. And they'd probably sell boatloads of them. But if you'll look at the right-hand column of that page you'll see a rumor from last September about a Samyang 35mm f/1.4 for Pentax mount coming in early 2010 I'm just sayin'... :) The Samyang 35/1.4 will be released at Photokina, Samyang has actually confirmed this in email to people on the FredMiranda Alt Lens Forum. The redesign of the 14/2.8 at the very last minute (in fact after the first run shipped) seems to have pushed the release of the 35/1.4 back. Actually, we may well see 2 different 35/1.4's at Photokina in K mount, the other being the long-rumoured Zeiss ZK version, which was leaked by Erwin Puts last fall. -Adam -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:06 PM, CheekyGeek cheekyg...@gmail.com wrote: Monkeys to Fly out your Butt? The Answer Could Be Yes! Mark! -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I've seen four distinct rumors combining Pentax and a non-SLR/interchangeable lens camera. The NX10 leaves me cold, but I'm open to a good new camera from Pentax. Meanwhile, I'm quite happy with what I've got at present, it's serving me well. -- Godfrey godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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So rich in detail! I also liked the rumors about Hoya selling Pentax. I think we should all chip in. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:28 PM, Miserere miser...@gmail.com wrote: From K-rumors: According to Citigroup Global Markets Japan Inc Hoya plans to release a mirrorless camera that is “distinct” from other mirrorless cameras. Citigroup doesn’t give any further detail but this is an official document were they analyzed the Business conditions from Hoya. Read full post: http://k-rumors.com/k4-finally-hoya-decided-to-make-a-pentax-mirrorless-camera/ Due to my ongoing love affair with the Samsung NX10, I really hope this rumour ends up being real. I REALLY want a Pentax MILC. My opinion: A Samsung NX10 with Pentax's image processing and menu system/features, plus weather-sealing, and a line of small WR primes would be very successful. The potential of an APS-C sensor in a small body like the NX10 with a bunch of pancake primes is enormous. I know some of you will disagree, and I ask you to please vent your anger in this thread :-) Cheers, --MILCserere -- \/\/o/\/\ -- http://WorldOfMiserere.com http://EnticingTheLight.com A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- Steve Desjardins -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
