Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Mon, 6 Feb 2006, Mat Maessen wrote:


2. Specular highlights tend to flare. I first noticed this in chrome
trim on a car. I can point to pictures to demonstrate. Probably due to
the large number of glass elements in the lens.


Can you please show a picture demonstrating that? I am interested in 
the artifact.


Kostas



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-07 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/7/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  2. Specular highlights tend to flare. I first noticed this in chrome
  trim on a car. I can point to pictures to demonstrate. Probably due to
  the large number of glass elements in the lens.

 Can you please show a picture demonstrating that? I am interested in
 the artifact.

http://www.matoe.org/pics/MINI/roll1/030_28.jpg

Give it a while to load, since it's large (1536x1024).
Look at the chrome surrounding the headlight on the right side of the picture.

-Mat



RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-07 Thread Jens Bladt
That's not real flare - it's just a mirror refletion of the sun - shaped
like a star, caused by the aperture blades.
This is flare:
http://www.ghostweb.com/lens_1.gif
http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/flare.shtml
http://www.gamedev.net/reference/articles/lensflare/lens-flare-tut-shot1.jpg
http://www.hash.com/users/joewllms/FlaresReference1.jpg
http://dominique.hoffmann.free.fr/photos/phenomen/lens_flare.jpg

Regards
Jens Bladt
http://www.jensbladt.dk

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On 2/7/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  2. Specular highlights tend to flare. I first noticed this in chrome
  trim on a car. I can point to pictures to demonstrate. Probably due to
  the large number of glass elements in the lens.

 Can you please show a picture demonstrating that? I am interested in
 the artifact.

http://www.matoe.org/pics/MINI/roll1/030_28.jpg

Give it a while to load, since it's large (1536x1024).
Look at the chrome surrounding the headlight on the right side of the
picture.

-Mat





Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-07 Thread Kostas Kavoussanakis

On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Mat Maessen wrote:


On 2/7/06, Kostas Kavoussanakis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2. Specular highlights tend to flare. I first noticed this in chrome
trim on a car. I can point to pictures to demonstrate. Probably due to
the large number of glass elements in the lens.


Can you please show a picture demonstrating that? I am interested in
the artifact.


http://www.matoe.org/pics/MINI/roll1/030_28.jpg

Give it a while to load, since it's large (1536x1024).
Look at the chrome surrounding the headlight on the right side of the picture.


Thanks Mat. I have never been offended by this artifact, I thought it 
was natural. Goes to tell you :-)


Kostas



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
 Rather rare, isn't it?

No, I wouldn't say it's rare.  I think it's a little more commonly seen
than its sibling, the A 28-135/4.

 Any comments on the performance of this lens is greatly appreciated,
 please.

The A 35-105/3.5 is an excellent zoom, highly regarded here on the PDML.
Its build quality is high (which, of course, means that it's a heavy lens).
It is sharp and contrasty, as zoom lenses go.  It's so-called macro
unction is nothing to write home about, though (as in most so-called macro
zooms).

I actually prefer the slightly greater versatility (a bit wider zoom range)
of the A 28-135/4, and I no longer have either of my A 35-105/3.5's (I did
have two of them at one time).

 It's a very nice focal length for portraits on the D, isn't it
 (equivalent to 52-202mm on 135 film)?

It ought to do very nicely on a Pentax DSLR, I would think.

Fred



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Ralf R. Radermacher
Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It ought to do very nicely on a Pentax DSLR, I would think.

So I thought. I have an A 28-135 and was really looking forward to using
it on my DS. Tried it once and found that holding this combination for
longer than, say, 10 secs would cause cramps in my hands. The DSLRs are
simply too lightweight.

It takes an LX plus winder on the rear end to balance this lens and make
it kind of manageable.

Ralf

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RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Don Sanderson
Jens if I had to give an award to the three best A zooms
here's what I'd pick:
A 35-105/3.5
A 70-210/4
A 35-70/4

Fred likes the A 28-135/4, I agree that it's a fine lens.
Just too big and heavy for my tastes.
The three above, and especially the 35-105, are three I
don't believe I'll ever sell, they're that good.

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 3:00 PM
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: SV: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please


 Sorry - it's the 3.5 35-105mm, naturally!!!

 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk

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 Fra: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sendt: 6. februar 2006 21:43
 Til: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Emne: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please


 I spotted one of these at a local auction (ends February 12th), which
 normally won't go too high (limited amount of potential buyers). Rather
 rare, isn't it?
 Any comments on the performance of this lens is greatly
 appreciated, please.
 It's a very nice focal length for portraits on the D, isn't it (equivalent
 to 52-202mm on 135 film)?

 BTW:
 This guy is also selling a Tokina 80-200 F 4.5. I sold one of these
 recently. Since I already owned a F 70-210mm, I didn't keep it.
 BTW: It's an
 excellent performer, utilizing a macro function.
 Regards
 Jens


 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk







Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Colin J
Hi Jens,

I am a great fan of this lens.  I have owned
three.  One broke when I dropped it, so I bought
a replacement *and* a spare. g

The lens is almost unique among Pentax zooms, in
that it offers excellent sharpness, low
distortion  throughout the zoom range and very
smooth bokeh. This is a rare combination.

It also offers a useful close focusing facility -
not exactly Macro but that's what Pentax call
it.

The only downside to this lens, if any, is that
it is not a true zoom, but a vari-focal lens. The
point of focus varies considerably through the
zoom range.  I found this alarming at first, but
the second example I bought was exactly the same.
 Even if you zoom by only a small amount, it is
essential that you re-focus.  You will soon get
used to it.

The lens works extremely well as a portrait lens
in the 75~105mm range on film and in the 50~70mm
range on the *ist D.  Being an A lens it operates
in all exposure modes on the *ist D and gives
accurate exposures. 

As I said, I am a great fan. I judge a lens only
by its results, and in my opinion, this is a fine
optical design.

I previously owned an SMC Pentax-M 45-125mm f/4.
I bought this lens because of several strong
recommendations.  However, I have to say that the
SMC Pentax-A 35-105mm f/3.5 is a far superior
optic, with much lower distortion and exceptional
bokeh for a zoom lens.  

The 45-125mm is sharp, but it distorts badly and
the bokeh is relatively harsh.  I think you will
be very happy with a 35-105mm f/3.5.

Regards,

Colin
 
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 I spotted one of these at a local auction (ends
 February 12th), which
 normally won't go too high (limited amount of
 potential buyers). Rather
 rare, isn't it?
 Any comments on the performance of this lens is
 greatly appreciated, please.
 It's a very nice focal length for portraits on
 the D, isn't it (equivalent
 to 52-202mm on 135 film)?
 
 BTW:
 This guy is also selling a Tokina 80-200 F 4.5.
 I sold one of these
 recently. Since I already owned a F 70-210mm, I
 didn't keep it. BTW: It's an
 excellent performer, utilizing a macro
 function.
 Regards
 Jens




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RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Bob W
I had one of these and it was the worst Pentax lens I ever owned. It was so
bad that when I was burgled, they had the good sense to leave it behind.

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Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2006 20:43
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please
 
 I spotted one of these at a local auction (ends February 
 12th), which normally won't go too high (limited amount of 
 potential buyers). Rather rare, isn't it?
 Any comments on the performance of this lens is greatly 
 appreciated, please.



RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Bob W
I had one of these and it was very good indeed.

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Cheers,
 Bob 

 -Original Message-
 From: Jens Bladt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2006 21:00
 To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net
 Subject: SV: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please
 
 Sorry - it's the 3.5 35-105mm, naturally!!!
 
 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
 I had one of these and it was the worst Pentax lens I ever owned. It was so
 bad that when I was burgled, they had the good sense to leave it behind.

 I had one of these and it was very good indeed.

Bo, do you want to clarify the above two statements?  Which lenses are you
referring to?  (I can't believe that the first comment is about the A
35-105/3.5.)

Fred



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread sdstory
Quoting Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I spotted one of these at a local auction (ends February 12th), which
 normally won't go too high (limited amount of potential buyers). Rather
 rare, isn't it?
 Any comments on the performance of this lens is greatly appreciated, please.
 It's a very nice focal length for portraits on the D, isn't it (equivalent
 to 52-202mm on 135 film)?
 
 BTW:
 This guy is also selling a Tokina 80-200 F 4.5. I sold one of these
 recently. Since I already owned a F 70-210mm, I didn't keep it. BTW: It's an
 excellent performer, utilizing a macro function.
 Regards
 Jens
 
 
 Jens Bladt
 http://www.jensbladt.dk
 
 New guy here, I have this lens  have given it what i think is a good work 
out. when i got it i tested it  my vivitar series 1 28-105 f2.8. Who won ? 
well i sold the vivitar  never looked back!,good stuff! BTW, I ALSO OWN THE A 
35-70,F4.0  THE A 80-210,F4.0, also good stuff!   




Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
 Jens if I had to give an award to the three best A zooms
 here's what I'd pick:
 A 35-105/3.5
 A 70-210/4
 A 35-70/4

I agree with Don here, Jens, although I think I'd add the A 70-210/4 to
this list.  To be relevant to your inquiry, though, Jens, the A 35-105/3.5
definitely belongs on a list of the best Pentax manual focus zooms.

Fred



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Mat Maessen
On 2/6/06, Jens Bladt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sorry - it's the 3.5 35-105mm, naturally!!!

Excellent lens. Only three beefs I have with it:

1. It's on the heavy side. On my super program, it makes the camera
nose-heavy without the winder on it as a grip. If you're using it in a
kit w/ a similarly-sized 80-200, not a problem.
2. Specular highlights tend to flare. I first noticed this in chrome
trim on a car. I can point to pictures to demonstrate. Probably due to
the large number of glass elements in the lens.
3. The Pentax hood for it is pretty close to useless. Find an
aftermarket metal hood (67mm), use your hands, or improvise something
else if you need a hood.

-Mat



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
 I had one of these and it was the worst Pentax lens I ever owned. It was so
 bad that when I was burgled, they had the good sense to leave it behind.

 I had one of these and it was very good indeed.

 Bo, do you want to clarify the above two statements?  Which lenses are you
 referring to?  (I can't believe that the first comment is about the A
 35-105/3.5.)

Oops - make that Bob, not Bo - sheepish_grin.  Sorry, Bob.

Fred



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Lasse Karlsson

From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Don Sanderson pentax-discuss@pdml.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please



Jens if I had to give an award to the three best A zooms
here's what I'd pick:
A 35-105/3.5
A 70-210/4
A 35-70/4


I agree with Don here, Jens, although I think I'd add the A 70-210/4 to
this list.


You want two simultanous A 70-210/4:s?
g

Lasse


To be relevant to your inquiry, though, Jens, the A 35-105/3.5
definitely belongs on a list of the best Pentax manual focus zooms.

Fred




Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Charles Robinson

On Feb 6, 2006, at 16:56, Fred wrote:


Jens if I had to give an award to the three best A zooms
here's what I'd pick:
A 35-105/3.5
A 70-210/4
A 35-70/4




I missed Don's original post but I just have to chime in here that I  
purchased the  A35-70/4 from Godfrey not too long ago (he sold it for  
barely more than a song!) and I've really grown to love it.  Has all  
of the appeal (imagewise) of my A primes, but the flexibility of a  
zoom.  It's my main lens much of the time when I don't need a wide  
angle.


 -Charles

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RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Bob W
I was referring to the A 35-135/3.5-5.6 - however, that was later clarified.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2006 22:48
 To: Bob W
 Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please
 
  I had one of these and it was the worst Pentax lens I ever 
 owned. It 
  was so bad that when I was burgled, they had the good sense 
 to leave it behind.
 
  I had one of these and it was very good indeed.
 
 Bo, do you want to clarify the above two statements?  Which 
 lenses are you referring to?  (I can't believe that the first 
 comment is about the A
 35-105/3.5.)
 
 Fred
 
 
 
 



RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Bob W
  Bo, do you want to clarify the above two statements?  Which 
 lenses are 
  you referring to?  (I can't believe that the first comment is about 
  the A
  35-105/3.5.)
 
 Oops - make that Bob, not Bo - sheepish_grin.  Sorry, Bob.
 
 Fred
 

Don't worry, Fred. Bo knows.

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Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
 2. Specular highlights tend to flare. I first noticed this in chrome
 trim on a car. I can point to pictures to demonstrate. Probably due to
 the large number of glass elements in the lens.

There are ~so~ many glass to air surfaces in one of these that it's a
little more likely to flare than a more sensible prime lens.  (The A
28-135/4 is similar in this regard, I'd say.)

I even have a specular highlight starburst on a whale while using an A
35-105/3.5 - http://plg.komkon.org/a35-105_35/fl1.html .  Ordinarily, I
wouldn't be using such a lens for shooting whales, but I had just gotten
the lens and was anxious to try it out, and I did have to work that day
(whale watching), and I did have a very cooperative whale on one  trip that
day at a time that I happened to have that lens on one of the two bodies I
was using.

Fred



Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Fred
 Jens if I had to give an award to the three best A zooms
 here's what I'd pick:
 A 35-105/3.5
 A 70-210/4
 A 35-70/4
 
 I agree with Don here, Jens, although I think I'd add the A 70-210/4 to
 this list.

 You want two simultanous A 70-210/4:s?

groan  Oops - in the original post by Don, he listed those three, and
then immediately mentioned me liking the 28-135/4.  In my (feeble) mind, I
sort of elevated (I guess) the 28-135/4 into his list, and then decided
that the A 70-210/4 should also (g) be on his list.

I think I'd be a lot safer for everybody if I were merely a lurker - g.

Fred



RE: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please

2006-02-06 Thread Don Sanderson
What? And leave all the silly mistakes up to me?? ;-)

Don

 -Original Message-
 From: Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 06, 2006 5:29 PM
 To: Lasse Karlsson
 Subject: Re: SMC Pentax-A 3.5 35-135mm - comments, please


  Jens if I had to give an award to the three best A zooms
  here's what I'd pick:
  A 35-105/3.5
  A 70-210/4
  A 35-70/4
 
  I agree with Don here, Jens, although I think I'd add the A 70-210/4 to
  this list.

  You want two simultanous A 70-210/4:s?

 groan  Oops - in the original post by Don, he listed those three, and
 then immediately mentioned me liking the 28-135/4.  In my (feeble) mind, I
 sort of elevated (I guess) the 28-135/4 into his list, and then
 decided
 that the A 70-210/4 should also (g) be on his list.

 I think I'd be a lot safer for everybody if I were merely a
 lurker - g.

 Fred