Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you?
Don't forget Tom "I don't use camera straps" VanVeen. Also, I don't think Doug Brewer is "leerless". I've seen him leer at lots of women. Bill - Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you? > I like it here, and have learned a lot from the more > experienced (though not likely older) folks. > > Who have you learned the most from here? > > > I'll kick it off with a safe nominee (Wm Robb) and a > dark horse (B. Rubenstein). Both seem to know a fair > amount, though Robb is usually easier to digest, from > a Pentax point of view, than BR. > > There have, of course, been others. Mark Cassino, Bill > Cassleberry, Cotty (brap hic! frlappp...) all come to mind. > Alan Chen, Pal, Herb Chong, our leerless feeder and all around > list guy Doug Brewer, the folks who run PUG, John Mustarde, > and others I can't think of I could have voted for here. > > I'm not factoring in PUG favorites, that's a whole other cup > of tea. > > -Lon > >
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The danger of quotes. "leerless feeder" is a pun on fearless leader. Wink. Bill Owens wrote: Don't forget Tom "I don't use camera straps" VanVeen. Also, I don't think Doug Brewer is "leerless". I've seen him leer at lots of women. Bill - Original Message - From: "Lon Williamson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PDML Pentax Discuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 1:23 PM Subject: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you? I like it here, and have learned a lot from the more experienced (though not likely older) folks. Who have you learned the most from here? I'll kick it off with a safe nominee (Wm Robb) and a dark horse (B. Rubenstein). Both seem to know a fair amount, though Robb is usually easier to digest, from a Pentax point of view, than BR. There have, of course, been others. Mark Cassino, Bill Cassleberry, Cotty (brap hic! frlappp...) all come to mind. Alan Chen, Pal, Herb Chong, our leerless feeder and all around list guy Doug Brewer, the folks who run PUG, John Mustarde, and others I can't think of I could have voted for here. I'm not factoring in PUG favorites, that's a whole other cup of tea. -Lon
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Hi! I generally second your opinion. Your list may be missing a person or two, but generally it fits my opinion too. I suppose William Robb would get my vote for that nomination too. But then when it comes to body knowledge, Alan Chan is very strong in my opinion. And of course all others that somehow keep the talk on track . Anyway, I must admit that I learned a lot since I joined the crew - both technology-wise and craft/art-wise.. Though I must also point out that I also learned quite a bit of (foul) language, politics, ways to express one's extreme opinion and last but definitely not least - the beer... Boris (who has Tak K 135/2.5, shots C-41 b/w and considers M 35/2.8 a very good lens)... ===8<==Original message text=== LW> I like it here, and have learned a lot from the more LW> experienced (though not likely older) folks. LW> Who have you learned the most from here? LW> I'll kick it off with a safe nominee (Wm Robb) and a LW> dark horse (B. Rubenstein). Both seem to know a fair LW> amount, though Robb is usually easier to digest, from LW> a Pentax point of view, than BR. LW> There have, of course, been others. Mark Cassino, Bill LW> Cassleberry, Cotty (brap hic! frlappp...) all come to mind. LW> Alan Chen, Pal, Herb Chong, our leerless feeder and all around LW> list guy Doug Brewer, the folks who run PUG, John Mustarde, LW> and others I can't think of I could have voted for here. LW> I'm not factoring in PUG favorites, that's a whole other cup LW> of tea. LW> -Lon ===8<===End of original message text===
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Fer Gawds sake you guys. Yer embarrassing me. Thanks though, I feel kinda warm and fuzzy now. William Robb - Original Message - From: "Boris Liberman" Subject: Re: Survey: Whose PDML posts have helped you? > Hi! > > I generally second your opinion. Your list may be missing a person or > two, but generally it fits my opinion too. > > I suppose William Robb would get my vote for that nomination too. But > then when it comes to body knowledge, Alan Chan is very strong in my > opinion. And of course all others that somehow keep the talk on track > . > > Anyway, I must admit that I learned a lot since I joined the crew - > both technology-wise and craft/art-wise.. Though I must also point out > that I also learned quite a bit of (foul) language, politics, ways to > express one's extreme opinion and last but definitely not least - the > beer... > > Boris (who has Tak K 135/2.5, shots C-41 b/w and considers M 35/2.8 a > very good lens)... > > > > > ===8<==Original message text=== > LW> I like it here, and have learned a lot from the more > LW> experienced (though not likely older) folks. > > LW> Who have you learned the most from here? > > > LW> I'll kick it off with a safe nominee (Wm Robb) and a > LW> dark horse (B. Rubenstein). Both seem to know a fair > LW> amount, though Robb is usually easier to digest, from > LW> a Pentax point of view, than BR. > > LW> There have, of course, been others. Mark Cassino, Bill > LW> Cassleberry, Cotty (brap hic! frlappp...) all come to mind. > LW> Alan Chen, Pal, Herb Chong, our leerless feeder and all around > LW> list guy Doug Brewer, the folks who run PUG, John Mustarde, > LW> and others I can't think of I could have voted for here. > > LW> I'm not factoring in PUG favorites, that's a whole other cup > LW> of tea. > > LW> -Lon > > ===8<===End of original message text=== > > >
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>Fer Gawds sake you guys. >Yer embarrassing me. >Thanks though, I feel kinda warm and fuzzy now. Oh God. He'll be signing autographs in a minute. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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>In the category Cool-Guy, Cotty and Frank, they have >great sense of humour, great guys. Albano, I want to marry you and have your babies. (BTW, if Frank is cool, I am a poppadom!) Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Fer Gawds sake you guys. Yer embarrassing me. Thanks though, I feel kinda warm and fuzzy now. sounds like overdevelopment and out of focus to me BUTCH Each man had only one genuine vocation - to find the way to himself. Hermann Hess (Demian)
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Wow, thanks Cotty. I'll marry you and let you have my babies ;-) Really thanks Albano Cotty wrote: Albano Garcia because he brings a freshness and a fashionable angle to proceedings. He is also a stunning photographer - but then most of us are. He particularly so. --- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gosh, Lon, that's a real tough one. Lessee. I > suppose I would have to say > Rob Studdert - what that man doesn't know just about > ain't worth knowing. > Not bad for an Aussie ;-) > > And William Robb it is true speaks from a pretty > astonishing knowledge > base - when he speaks I (and a lot of others) listen > intently. > > Frankie-boy T makes me chuckle, and in amongst the > gags there is a > serious side that shines through. > > Jostein comes out with some real profound stuff, but > is always ready to > crack a bit of wit that puts mine to shame. > > Steve Larson deserves honourable mention because he > suggests things that > might seem outrageous, but upon closer inspection > are entirely possible > (like a flash quench disabling switch in an AF280T > ;-) > > Mark Roberts is a fountain of knowledge and library > of factoidia second > to none. > > Mike Johnston (bless him) - I miss his version of > sanity. > > Albano Garcia because he brings a freshness and a > fashionable angle to > proceedings. He is also a stunning photographer - > but then most of us > are. He particularly so. > > I love Cesar's ramblings - really there could not > have been more > appropriate a name for this chap. > > The truth is, I could go on and mention everyone's > name because I > couldn't actually pin down one name overall that I > thought had helped me > the most. The actual answer for me is 'The List' - > all the contributors > have helped me in one way or the other over the > (good grief I was going > to write 'months', but it is now) years. > > Time to raise a glass to the PDML. French and white > and cold and dry > enough to cut your throat on. Cheers all. > > *parp* > > > Cheers, > Cotty > > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk > = Albano Garcia "El Pibe Asahi" __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com
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Hi, Albano, Me 'n Cotty being mentioned in the sentence, eh? I'm not sure about that... Surely, an Odder Couple has never existed (apologies to Neil Simon). cheers, frank Albano Garcia wrote: > > In the category Cool-Guy, Cotty and Frank, they have > great sense of humour, great guys. -- "I don't believe in God, but I do believe in pi" - Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Hey, Cotty, Well, aint' that the truth! When I read the first post in this thread, I thought, "Wow, who could I mention?" (I really said "wow - it's true: I really do talk like that...). Every name I've seen so far (except of course mine - what the hell are you guys thinking?) would be on my list, plus lots more. And that's the problem. There are so many people that have so much knowledge to pass on about Pentax, cameras, photography, nature versus nuture, the mind/body question, political science, real science, philosophy, pretty much anything and everything, that I simply couldn't narrow it down to one person who has helped me the most. I've made many friends off-list, and in person (TOPDML), which is something I never would have expected when I stumbled upon this happy little crew a couple of years ago. It's been a great time. So, upon Cotty's advice, I've gone to the fridge, and opened a bottle of Amsterdam Natural Blond Lager (a local mini-brew). I am now raising my glass: "TO THE LIST - CHEERS!" regards, frank Cotty wrote: > The truth is, I could go on and mention everyone's name because I > couldn't actually pin down one name overall that I thought had helped me > the most. The actual answer for me is 'The List' - all the contributors > have helped me in one way or the other over the (good grief I was going > to write 'months', but it is now) years. > > Time to raise a glass to the PDML. French and white and cold and dry > enough to cut your throat on. Cheers all. > > *parp* > > Cheers, > Cotty > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk -- "I don't believe in God, but I do believe in pi" - Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Okay, Cotty, You know what my next question is! Was that an insult or a compliment? (as if I have to ask...) -frank Cotty wrote: > (BTW, if Frank is cool, I am a poppadom!) > > Cheers, > Cotty > > ___/\__ > || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche > ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps > _ > Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk -- "I don't believe in God, but I do believe in pi" - Henri Cartier-Bresson
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Damn vowel substitutions. Alan Chan wrote: Alan Chen, Pal, Herb Chong, our leerless feeder and all around list guy Doug Brewer, the folks who run PUG, John Mustarde, and others I can't think of I could have voted for here. That's nice. :-) Oh wait! That wasn't me, was it? Must be the Mandarin version of myself. LOL. regards, Alan Chan _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail
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> I like it here, and have learned a lot from the more > experienced (though not likely older) folks. > > Who have you learned the most from here? > -Lon > For fear of missing someone,here are the folk that have been helpfull to me.No particular order: -Tom V -Graywolf -Bill Casselberry -Sid Barras(both are my IR guys) -Herb -Alan -Bruce Dayton -ex Aaron Reynolds -The good fol;k at the TOPDMLFrank,Jeff,David,Brendan -BR(After all i do own some Nikon gear) -Cotty -Both Marks(Roberts and Cassino) -Pal -BOZ Thanks Marnie,for including me in your list.Must have answered a quiry instead of asking my many>LOL I'm sure there are a few others that have helped me immensly since 2001.Sorry if i forgot to name you. I can honestly say that my photographty jas improved 100% since subscribing.Mostly relearning things i forgot when i did not shoot a whole lot in the late 80's early 90's. I really enjoy the film issues,who like what and why.I always thought Kodak Max400 was my only choice as a non pro.LOL Dave Brooks
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There see i new i forgot some.LOL -William Robb -Pat White -Chris Brogden
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>I'd choose the Oscar role, if I had the choosing to do. But, what the >hell's a poppadom? It's a round crispy thing made of chick peas and fried in oil and you eat them in an Indian restaurant (spicy or plain) before the starters and main course, but usually too many so that by the time poppadoms the starters are finished you're too stuffed to eat the main course but you've had some beer or wine and it smells delicious anyway so you stuff yourself even more and regret it bitterly the next morning... Famous quote from UK politico-humourous mag Private Eye editor Ian Hislop upon losing a libel case: 'If that's justice, I am a banana'. BTW, I take it back, you are pretty cool :-) Oscar. Cheers, Felix ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Dave Brooks wrote: > > For fear of missing someone,here are the folk that have been helpfull to me.No particular > order: > -Tom V > -Graywolf > -Bill Casselberry > -Sid Barras(both are my IR guys) > -Herb > -Alan > -Bruce Dayton > -ex Aaron Reynolds > -The good fol;k at the TOPDMLFrank,Jeff,David,Brendan > -BR(After all i do own some Nikon gear) > -Cotty > -Both Marks(Roberts and Cassino) > -Pal > -BOZ I think I've learned something from *everyone* on the list, whether in response to my queries about gear or in general discussions. I would not wish to single out anyone in particular, nor a small group of people. Why? For the simple reason that it is usually *the discussion* that informs, not the individual replies of individuals or of a clique (such things appear not to exist on PDML, thank goodness!). So thanks to y'all! John P. S. I found when assembling a Pentax outfit was that there are several resources, set up by PDML members, displaying shots that supported the views posted on here. Now that's *particularly* useful !
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> > I would not wish to single out anyone in particular, nor a > small group of people. Why? For the simple reason that it > is usually *the discussion* that informs, not the individual > replies of individuals or of a clique (such things appear > not to exist on PDML, thank goodness!). > > So thanks to y'all! > > John I tend to agree with your thoughts John,but i have leaned VERY heavly on some of those mentioned.They deserve it. :-) Dave
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> -Original Message- > From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > There have been many PDML members who have helped me a lot, > mostly by > sharing their experience, ideas and, of course, their > images, but one > stands out. He's no longer on the list but Bill Cornett gave me > extensive hand-holding to get me through my first > professional sale. It > was so long ago that many people on the list might not recognize his > name but he was a good photographer and a real class act. I > have saved > his emails and they're still worth reading from time to time. > I can never remember his name, but you're right, he was a good guy. tv
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>Whose PDML posts have helped you? So many! I've found I've got useful and interesting information dozens of threads that most of the PDML regulars have contributed to. Special mention has to go to Cotty though - because he knows his stuff, expresses it well and most always in a cheerful or humorous way. I've found that's a rare thing. I do have a complaint though. When I joined the list I had one camera/lens and was quite happy with it. Now, less than two years later, I have ten lenses, three bodies, multiple winders, flashes, tripods, filters, brolly's... most all on advice from the list. I used to be happy with what I had, now I just need more more more. :-) Simon
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Cotty, I am gob-smacked! Never did I imagine I would be listed in this thread. I humbly bow with reddened face... I will have to let my parents know that they did allright with the naming... I reciprocate in saying that I have learned quite a few things from your posts the least is not the fact that we need to get together. And to that end, I am trying to line up a two-week trip to England probably in October. I will let everyone know. I should be based in London, but I can see a trip to Oxford and even sunny Brighton ;-) Jumping into a future thread from this original post - I am getting a kick out of the RV in Scotland... Cheers! Cesar Panama City, Florida last full day in Baltimore -- -Original Message- -- From: Cotty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 5:40 PM -- -- are. He particularly so. -- -- I love Cesar's ramblings - really there could not have been more -- appropriate a name for this chap. -- -- The truth is, I could go on and mention everyone's name because I -- couldn't actually pin down one name overall that I thought -- had helped me -- the most. The actual answer for me is 'The List' - all the -- contributors -- have helped me in one way or the other over the (good grief -- I was going -- to write 'months', but it is now) years. -- -- Time to raise a glass to the PDML. French and white and cold and dry -- enough to cut your throat on. Cheers all. -- -- *parp* -- -- -- Cheers, -- Cotty -- -- -- ___/\__ -- || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps -- _ -- Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk --