Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi Peter, Doug and all, Peter Jesser wrote: Has anyone had one of these? Got any thoughts on it? ... Yes I have it. I didn't use it a lot but if you think it would be useful I could post some samples to the net. It doesn't seem so bad for me, but I have nothing to compare it to. Is not a lens you can handhold very easily and the tripod collar is not really sturdy but useful nonetheless. When I use it I try to keep it on the monopod (Manfrotto) at all times. Not a Pentax in sight until I saw this Tokina 400mm at the back. M42 mount (but that's no problem with a converter) new, in its box, marked Was $310, today only $210. That's Australian dollars! I know it isn't top drawer, but I have a new 400mm for about US $108. ... The price is certainly interesting, although the screwmount makes it slower to use. I paid mine 199USD last year from KEH in BGN conditions. So - if you have used one and can give me an idea of what to expect, I would like to hear about it. I am not a professional, but some of my pics get published with my hunting and conservation articles. I won't get to try it until next weekend. ... It could be a good deal but at 5.6 is not a fast lens, especially since you're supposed to stop it down a bit. I think it could be a fair starting point. Hope it helps, Flavio - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi Frits, On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:47:22 +0100, Frits J. Wthrich wrote: Anybody know how well a Pentax A 400mm f5.6 is? What would be a reasonable price for it? I don't know how much better it is than the SMC version, since I've never tried one. Right now, there are a couple on Keh's web site. They range in price from US$484 for excellent condition to $616 for excellent plus condition. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Doug Franklin wrote: Hi Frits, On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:47:22 +0100, Frits J. W*thrich wrote: Anybody know how well a Pentax A 400mm f5.6 is? What would be a reasonable price for it? I don't know how much better it is than the SMC version, since I've never tried one. They're considerably more desirable than the SMC version in that they have auto aperture and a far shorter minimum focus distance. I have the SMC version, and it's a very nice lens, but I cover the A. A very nice one went for $400 on ebay a few weeks ago, but I'm having to watch my pennies at the moment. Paul - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
I meant to say, I covet the A, not I cover the A. Although if I had one, I would cover it. Right now, I just covet it. Paul Doug Franklin wrote: Hi Frits, On Wed, 19 Sep 2001 22:47:22 +0100, Frits J. W*thrich wrote: Anybody know how well a Pentax A 400mm f5.6 is? What would be a reasonable price for it? I don't know how much better it is than the SMC version, since I've never tried one. Right now, there are a couple on Keh's web site. They range in price from US$484 for excellent condition to $616 for excellent plus condition. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Doug wrote: I have the SD version of this lens in PK-A mount, but I haven't tried it yet. I'll be trying it out the first weekend of October, if there's room in by bag. I've been using an SMC 400/5.6, so that will be benchmark against which I'm judging the Tokina. TTYL, DougF Doug, when you get around to trying it, please post your results here. I am much interested how a semi-modern SD/LD/APO tele compares to an older much simpler tele design I think the SMC K 400/5.6 is according to Boz. Resolution wise and contrast-wise. I found some older non-SD teles to have good performance, but that was stopped down a bit (1-2 stops), and actually the lens was for 6x6cm format 4/300mm Pentacon (it's a damn best for the money lens for 6x6cm you can get, it doesn't cost like a car or house g). good light! Frantisek - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:57:27 +0200, canislupus wrote: when you get around to trying [the Tokina SD 400/5.6], please post your results here. Will do. I am much interested how a semi-modern SD/LD/APO tele compares to an older much simpler tele design I think the SMC K 400/5.6 is according to Boz. Resolution wise and contrast-wise. I can tell you that the Tokina SD is noticeably smaller and lighter than the SMC. About 20% shorter; 72mm filter instead of 77 or 78mm; probably 25% or more lighter. I don't have the tripod mount for the SD, though, so it might not make the October trip. It would be much easier to handle than the SMC without its collar, though. Plus the SD has the A setting for Tv shooting, which makes motorsports photography a lot easier. For any spot on the track, I generally want to force the shutter speed, so that the pictures end up with a feeling of speed (wheels blurring a bit). The apertures for that spot then move around maybe +/1 one stop as the lighting changes. [...] I found some older non-SD teles to have good performance, but that was stopped down a bit (1-2 stops), [...] I'll remember that. Stopped down should be no problem, though. During daylight, when I'll be using the 400, I'll have to stop down (about f/8 to about f/22) to keep the shutter speed between about 1/125 and 1/500. Dusk and night, I'll be using shorter and faster lenses. TTYL, DougF - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi, when you look at the Tokina 400/f5.6 with inner focusing, look at the out of foucus areas. I did and had a big laugh. Really ugly quadruple images! I'll stick to my Pentax K 400/f5.6 even though it is bigger and all manual Arnold - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
Re: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Peter Jesser writes: Has anyone had one of these? Got any thoughts on it? I have one, got it for NZ$200 at a second hand shop. I'm surprised the one you saw was M42 mount though (mine is bayonet). Its actually not too bad a lens if you can stop it down. I've found it quite soft wide-open but once stopped down to f/8 it sharpens up quite well. Can't say much about contrast because I don't do a lot of high-contrast shooting with it. Its biggest drawback is that the closest focus distance is 4 metres. I usually add an extension tube when I'm shooting wildlife frame-fillers. The tripod collar on mine is a real pain as well. The foot which screws onto the tripod head can be removed by undoing two thumb-screws. Unfortunately they have a habit of coming loose so you have to keep tightening them. I would suggest avoiding an M42 adaptor for a long lens though, because you lose open-aperture metering which means you either have to work slowly (meter, stop down, shoot) or focus at your working aperture. I am currently lusting after an FA*400/5.6... Cheers, - Dave David A. Mann, B.E. (Elec) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ Why is it that if an adult behaves like a child they lock him up, while children are allowed to run free on the streets? -- Garfield - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi Peter Ouch! I have never found PC to be competitive on price, although they are a very professional organisation! They're current price for the MZ-S body is A$1898.00. Where in Brissy are you (I'm in New Farm)? John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Sunday, September 16, 2001 1:17 PM, Peter Jesser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: SNIP By the way, I got it from Photo Continental. I'm a Brisbane boy, too! Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi Peter: I have the RMC 400/5.6, in bayonet mount, so probably a little later than the one you are thinking of. It's big, heavy, built like a tank and has excellent resolution, even wide open, in the centre. Unfortunately, mine does not have a tripod collar, which can be a problem. I would think that $210 is about what you might expect to pay from a shop (I got mine second-hand and privately as part of a package for considerably less), but they must have had it one hell of a long time, so you might be able to bargain the price down even more! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:46 AM, Peter Jesser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Has anyone had one of these? Got any thoughts on it? SNIP Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
RE: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6
Hi John Thanks for the info. It looks good through the viewfinder, but the proof will be in the photos. It is all metal, and as you say, built like a tank. I figured that at the price it wasn't worth haggling. One of the US mail order places still has it listed for $250 US. By the way, I got it from Photo Continental. I'm a Brisbane boy, too! Peter From: John Coyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Tokina SL 400 mm f5.6 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 11:43:00 +1000 Hi Peter: I have the RMC 400/5.6, in bayonet mount, so probably a little later than the one you are thinking of. It's big, heavy, built like a tank and has excellent resolution, even wide open, in the centre. Unfortunately, mine does not have a tripod collar, which can be a problem. I would think that $210 is about what you might expect to pay from a shop (I got mine second-hand and privately as part of a package for considerably less), but they must have had it one hell of a long time, so you might be able to bargain the price down even more! John Coyle Brisbane, Australia On Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:46 AM, Peter Jesser [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: Has anyone had one of these? Got any thoughts on it? SNIP Peter - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org . _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
