Re: Two books
On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 07:19:01AM -0400, David J Brooks wrote: > On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: > To learn lightroom, I picked up Scott Kelby's book > > which has a lot to recommend it, but reading another book of him would > > drive me insane. > > > . I'd much prefer the style of > > "Light, Science and Magic" where they explain the principles and how > > to apply them rather than Kelby's "pay no attention to the man behind > > the curtain while I tell you a joke" > > Actually, i like his style. I have two PS books and the LR 2 book of his. I've got four or five books by him. I got his little digital photography books shortly after I got my camera, his lightroom book, and one or two photoshop books of his, which I haven't had a chance to read. > > I like how he explains each step, with screen shots. My first book for > PS was bad. It basically showed you a bad picture, then a good picture > with very little explanation of how i got like that. Like I said, there's a lot to recommend his books. I'd get a lot more out of reading someone elses explanation, than reading a rehash of his, which I've already read twice before. -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two books
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Larry Colen wrote: To learn lightroom, I picked up Scott Kelby's book > which has a lot to recommend it, but reading another book of him would > drive me insane. > . I'd much prefer the style of > "Light, Science and Magic" where they explain the principles and how > to apply them rather than Kelby's "pay no attention to the man behind > the curtain while I tell you a joke" Actually, i like his style. I have two PS books and the LR 2 book of his. I like how he explains each step, with screen shots. My first book for PS was bad. It basically showed you a bad picture, then a good picture with very little explanation of how i got like that. Dave > > > > -- > The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post > the wrong answer. > Larry Colen l...@red4est.com http://www.red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Equine Photography www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ Ontario Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Two books
> > So I went looking at Alibris, and they had some copies of the > Jeffries > book, and oh, maybe I'll see if they have Hurn's thing too, > and there it > was, and shit, I've always wanted a copy of The Americans and > the next > thing I know I'm down $70 and I really shouldn't be on the > web at this hour. > > I think the gist of this is that you, Walkden, are an agent of Satan. > "Pleased to meet you, hope you got my name" I do work for one of the big banks that's currently destroying the world, so you're probably right. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Two books
> > Speaking of books, which this group seems to do a lot, I recently > picked up "Light, science and magic", which I'm really enjoying. Most > of the books on lighting that I've read are pretty much cookbooks, but > this one seems to do a much better job of explaining the principles. > > Also, this weekend I'll be picking up lightroom 2. If you know anyone > that works at adobe, their employee discounts are amazing, basically > 10% of list price. To learn lightroom, I picked up Scott Kelby's book > which has a lot to recommend it, but reading another book of him would > drive me insane. > > In order to learn the deltas between lightroom 1 and 2, and perhaps to > actually learn the things I haven't picked up after reading the first > book, I'd like to get a book on LR 2. I'd much prefer the style of > "Light, Science and Magic" where they explain the principles and how > to apply them rather than Kelby's "pay no attention to the man behind > the curtain while I tell you a joke" > I have The Photoshop Lightroom Workbook by Seth Resnick and Jamie Spritzer, and find it very useful. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two books
Bob W wrote: I snapped up a couple of interesting photo books today. How To Read A Photograph, by Ian Jeffries. Jeffries has a good track record writing about photography and I have 2 or 3 of his other books, and have even read them. This new one is an overview of the canon of photography, with several examples from each of the greats along with his critical reading of the photographs shown, and some background about the photographer. I haven't had it long enough to have really gone through in detail, but just from the comments I have looked at so far I've learned new things about old favourites. The Photograph: Composition and Colour Design, by Harald Mante. I have his 2 earlier books about composition, which have been out of print for many years. I think they're both from the 1970s. Photo Design, the first, is about black and white and is probably the most useful book I've seen about photographic composition. This new book is a kind of mix of the 2 earlier ones, reusing some of the material and not as well laid out in my opinion. Nevertheless, it is still a very interesting guide to photographic composition and worth having if you can't find the older ones. Bob So I went looking at Alibris, and they had some copies of the Jeffries book, and oh, maybe I'll see if they have Hurn's thing too, and there it was, and shit, I've always wanted a copy of The Americans and the next thing I know I'm down $70 and I really shouldn't be on the web at this hour. I think the gist of this is that you, Walkden, are an agent of Satan. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two books
Thanks, Bob. I'll definitely check these out. Cheers, Christine - Original Message - From: "Bob W" To: "'Pentax-Discuss Mail List'" Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: Two books I snapped up a couple of interesting photo books today. How To Read A Photograph, by Ian Jeffries. Jeffries has a good track record writing about photography and I have 2 or 3 of his other books, and have even read them. This new one is an overview of the canon of photography, with several examples from each of the greats along with his critical reading of the photographs shown, and some background about the photographer. I haven't had it long enough to have really gone through in detail, but just from the comments I have looked at so far I've learned new things about old favourites. The Photograph: Composition and Colour Design, by Harald Mante. I have his 2 earlier books about composition, which have been out of print for many years. I think they're both from the 1970s. Photo Design, the first, is about black and white and is probably the most useful book I've seen about photographic composition. This new book is a kind of mix of the 2 earlier ones, reusing some of the material and not as well laid out in my opinion. Nevertheless, it is still a very interesting guide to photographic composition and worth having if you can't find the older ones. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two books
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bob W wrote: > I snapped up a couple of interesting photo books today. > > How To Read A Photograph, by Ian Jeffries. Jeffries has a good track record Thanks, I believe I gave it quick glance once, but I'm not sure; I'll check it out when I have a chance. On this topic I remember liking Stephen Shore's "The Nature of Photograps" http://www.amazon.com/Nature-Photographs-Stephen-Shore/dp/071484585X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237078197&sr=1-4 -- http://www.flickr.com/photos/ferand/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Two books
Speaking of books, which this group seems to do a lot, I recently picked up "Light, science and magic", which I'm really enjoying. Most of the books on lighting that I've read are pretty much cookbooks, but this one seems to do a much better job of explaining the principles. Also, this weekend I'll be picking up lightroom 2. If you know anyone that works at adobe, their employee discounts are amazing, basically 10% of list price. To learn lightroom, I picked up Scott Kelby's book which has a lot to recommend it, but reading another book of him would drive me insane. In order to learn the deltas between lightroom 1 and 2, and perhaps to actually learn the things I haven't picked up after reading the first book, I'd like to get a book on LR 2. I'd much prefer the style of "Light, Science and Magic" where they explain the principles and how to apply them rather than Kelby's "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain while I tell you a joke" -- The fastest way to get your question answered on the net is to post the wrong answer. Larry Colen l...@red4est.comhttp://www.red4est.com/lrc -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
RE: Two books
[...] > > The Photograph: Composition and Colour Design, by Harald > Mante. [...] > In fact, it gets 2 out 2 5-star reviews on Amazon, from Michael Freeman and from the chap who translated it into English: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Photograph-Composition-Color-Design/dp/1933952261 5 stars from Michael Freeman are not to be sniffed at. Bob -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
