Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On 5/27/2010 1:04 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
On May 27, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote:
e) Larry IS out of work right now...
And the people who asked about my photographing the party weren't friends. It
was someone who saw me showing photos to my friends.
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Then charge them as if you were shooting a wedding.
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Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 27, 2010, at 7:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: paul stenquist On May 26, 2010, at 7:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen I was showing them my 'best of' folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in a job shooting an event, Larry's FRIEND asked him if he would be interested in doing a *JOB*. Actually, I clipped the relevant sentence. It wasn't my friends that asked, it was someone who saw me showing my photos to my friends. Larry didn't ask if he SHOULD charge his friends when they ask him to provide professional services, he asked HOW MUCH to charge them. It's no different than friends asking a wedding photographer to shoot their wedding. Should his friends get mad if he doesn't offer to do the job for free? Should anyone who is friends with a photographer expect that photographer to shoot their weddings, bar mitzvahs, christenings, Quinceañera, proms, seniors, family portraits, ... gratis? Why limit it to photographers? Shouldn't your friend who's a doctor provide you with free medical care? Interestingly, one my best friends is a doctor, and she bitched me out for not coming to her when I had an issue, and wasn't insured so I didn't go to another doctor either. And should your friend the doctor have the gall to bill you for his professional services, shouldn't your friend who's a lawyer be willing to represent you pro bono so you can sue your friend the doctor for medical malpractice? My opinion, anyone who would ask you to do a JOB for them should be prepared to pay for your WORK. If they get mad because you quote them a fair price, THEY are the ones who are pretty hard up. Let them get mad. If they do, they're fair weather friends at best. Business with friends is always a tricky proposition. On one hand, it can be a quick way to put strain into a friendship, on the other I'd rather my money went to friends rather than strangers. Every case needs to be handled on its own. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? No its his brother 'Long' Isn't he the guy in charge of the K7 silver edition? No, just the new telephoto lens you mean the one you can screw in a tripod? And you don't need an extender Oh my and I thought those pump balls were for blowing off dust... -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On 28/5/10, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed: Actually, I clipped the relevant sentence. It wasn't my friends that asked, it was someone who saw me showing my photos to my friends. May I suggest what I do? Keep a business card handy with a link to a website where rates may be obtained. I also have a couple of different A4 sized info sheets detailing services offered. These live in a pocket and readily erupt forth when the occasion arises. Deciding what to charge is a conundrum that surpasses time. I have based my rates on what is considered 'the going daily rate' and adjust accordingly. This makes me as cheap or as expensive as anyone else doing the same thing. But what I try to do is offer more than the competition at the same price. These extras won't be cost-sensitive to me but might appear as good bonuses to the client. For instance, when producing DVDs I can make sure there are the correct files on the DVD for it to play in a DVD player *and* a computer - not necessarily always possible for the uninitiated. For a stills photographer, this might mean not only making low-res selection pics (digital contacts) online, but maybe sending through a few sheets of printed contacts as well. People still like holding paper even in the 21st century. Or maybe you show up to the shoot just wearing a thong. Second thought, scrub that last one. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche -- http://www.cottysnaps.com _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 28, 2010, at 4:29 AM, Larry Colen wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 7:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: paul stenquist On May 26, 2010, at 7:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen I was showing them my 'best of' folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in a job shooting an event, Larry's FRIEND asked him if he would be interested in doing a *JOB*. Actually, I clipped the relevant sentence. It wasn't my friends that asked, it was someone who saw me showing my photos to my friends. That's a huge difference of course. My wedding minimum is $900. That's for approximately 7 hours of shooting -- reception and ceremony. I turn over approximately 500 photo files to the couple to do with as they please. From there, prices go up if print orders, books, and additional shooting, such as the bride's house, are included. However, I've cut my rate to as low as $600 to get jobs when pickings and income were lean. Larry didn't ask if he SHOULD charge his friends when they ask him to provide professional services, he asked HOW MUCH to charge them. It's no different than friends asking a wedding photographer to shoot their wedding. Should his friends get mad if he doesn't offer to do the job for free? Should anyone who is friends with a photographer expect that photographer to shoot their weddings, bar mitzvahs, christenings, Quinceañera, proms, seniors, family portraits, ... gratis? Why limit it to photographers? Shouldn't your friend who's a doctor provide you with free medical care? Interestingly, one my best friends is a doctor, and she bitched me out for not coming to her when I had an issue, and wasn't insured so I didn't go to another doctor either. And should your friend the doctor have the gall to bill you for his professional services, shouldn't your friend who's a lawyer be willing to represent you pro bono so you can sue your friend the doctor for medical malpractice? My opinion, anyone who would ask you to do a JOB for them should be prepared to pay for your WORK. If they get mad because you quote them a fair price, THEY are the ones who are pretty hard up. Let them get mad. If they do, they're fair weather friends at best. Business with friends is always a tricky proposition. On one hand, it can be a quick way to put strain into a friendship, on the other I'd rather my money went to friends rather than strangers. Every case needs to be handled on its own. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
From: William Robb On 27/05/2010 8:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: My opinion, anyone who would ask you to do a JOB for them should be prepared to pay for your WORK. If they get mad because you quote them a fair price, THEY are the ones who are pretty hard up. Let them get mad. If they do, they're fair weather friends at best. I tend to agree with you on this, my caveat being don't charge friends unless you are prepared for them to no longer be friends. For myself, I just don't charge friends, or if I do, I let them buy me an expensive bottle of Scotch or some such. I don't equate what I do with what my lawyer or doctor does. Yeah, well neither do I, but point I was trying to make needed some kind of professional services for the friends to engage in for their livelihood and those were the best I could come up with on the spur of the moment. ;-D -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
2010/5/27 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: If the clients are friends and you ask for that kind of money, they will cease to be friends. If they're really good friends, I shoot their party for grins. If they're somewhat distant friends, I charge them a few hundred bucks. If I have to make money off my friends, I figure I'm pretty hard up. Maybe a) they're friends and asking you because they figure you'll give them friend discounts b) they're friends and looking to help you find jobs, even in the family c) they're semi friends and asking you in hopes you'll do it for grins anyway d) they're people who won't hurt about the money There is no way of knowing really over the distance of an email Can you tell? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 27, 2010, at 4:25 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/5/27 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: If the clients are friends and you ask for that kind of money, they will cease to be friends. If they're really good friends, I shoot their party for grins. If they're somewhat distant friends, I charge them a few hundred bucks. If I have to make money off my friends, I figure I'm pretty hard up. Maybe a) they're friends and asking you because they figure you'll give them friend discounts b) they're friends and looking to help you find jobs, even in the family c) they're semi friends and asking you in hopes you'll do it for grins anyway d) they're people who won't hurt about the money There is no way of knowing really over the distance of an email Can you tell? Yes. Friends are friends. In general, it's best not to do business with them. If one must do so, it's best not to take profit. But that's just my opinion, offered free of charge:-). Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
2010/5/27 paul stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net: Friends are friends. In general, it's best not to do business with them. If one must do so, it's best not to take profit. But that's just my opinion, offered free of charge:-). Very much agreed. The only kind I do business with are those who give me the business specifically to help me save face (in their perception, I don't mind losing it from time to time, it seems to grow back pretty nicely) Cheers Ecke -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
e) Larry IS out of work right now... -p On 5/27/2010 3:25 AM, eckinator wrote: 2010/5/27 paul stenquistpnstenqu...@comcast.net: If the clients are friends and you ask for that kind of money, they will cease to be friends. If they're really good friends, I shoot their party for grins. If they're somewhat distant friends, I charge them a few hundred bucks. If I have to make money off my friends, I figure I'm pretty hard up. Maybe a) they're friends and asking you because they figure you'll give them friend discounts b) they're friends and looking to help you find jobs, even in the family c) they're semi friends and asking you in hopes you'll do it for grins anyway d) they're people who won't hurt about the money There is no way of knowing really over the distance of an email Can you tell? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.819 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2898 - Release Date: 05/26/10 13:26:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 27, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: e) Larry IS out of work right now... And the people who asked about my photographing the party weren't friends. It was someone who saw me showing photos to my friends. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) 2010/5/27 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On May 27, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: e) Larry IS out of work right now... And the people who asked about my photographing the party weren't friends. It was someone who saw me showing photos to my friends. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, eckinator wrote: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Paul 2010/5/27 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On May 27, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: e) Larry IS out of work right now... And the people who asked about my photographing the party weren't friends. It was someone who saw me showing photos to my friends. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 27, 2010, at 11:24 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, eckinator wrote: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 27, 2010, at 3:08 PM, Larry Colen wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 11:24 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, eckinator wrote: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? Yes, they are. I use the Fong Lumisphere for weddings and events, which I rarely shoot, and automobile interiors, which I frequently shoot. It's excellent when working anywhere with a reasonably low, light colored ceiling. It can also be flipped and used like a mini softbox when the ceiling doesn't cooperate. Good tool. Paul -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I charge 400 Dkr/hour - eq. to 66 USD/hour, when working (semi)professionally. For both photographing and editing. In fact I almost double my noramal hourly salery, because I use my own equipmenet (camera eq., computer etc.) as well as my private car. The photographers I know tell me it's not enough. To actually run a business, I'd have to charge (under Danish conditions) at least 100 USD/hour. I guess it's also a question of guessing how much they want to spend, and then work accordingly. Regards Jens -- Treat others as you would like to be treated yourself. On May 27, 2010 20:24 P N Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, eckinator wrote: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Paul 2010/5/27 Larry Colen l...@red4est.com: On May 27, 2010, at 7:53 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: e) Larry IS out of work right now... And the people who asked about my photographing the party weren't friends. It was someone who saw me showing photos to my friends. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com sent from i4est -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: Larry Colen l...@red4est.com Subject: Re: What to charge to photograph a party? On May 27, 2010, at 11:24 AM, P N Stenquist wrote: On May 27, 2010, at 1:08 PM, eckinator wrote: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? No its his brother 'Long' -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? No its his brother 'Long' Isn't he the guy in charge of the K7 silver edition? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: What to charge to photograph a party? 2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? No its his brother 'Long' Isn't he the guy in charge of the K7 silver edition? No, just the new telephoto lens -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? No its his brother 'Long' Isn't he the guy in charge of the K7 silver edition? No, just the new telephoto lens you mean the one you can screw in a tripod? -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
From: paul stenquist On May 26, 2010, at 7:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen Some friends stopped by when driving through town last night and we grabbed a bite at the local taqueria. I was showing them my 'best of' folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in a job shooting an event, I think it was his parents 50th anniversary. Assuming that the scheduling worked, I don't even know what order of magnitude to charge. If it's a 3 hour affair, that's easily 6 hours of work, so I could see people charging anywhere from $150 to $1200 for that. I figure a $1000.00 DAY RATE; DAY = 8 hrs; $500.00 - HALF DAY = 4 hrs. Additional hours @ $125.00/hr beyond HALF DAY, until you get beyond 8 hrs, then you should be charging time a half, but call it $185.00/hr ... unless you really want to discourage going overtime, then charge $200.00/hr. Figure $150.00/hour for LESS than half a day. Three hours would be $450.00 ... they might opt for HALF DAY. Charge according to how many hours you're going to be on site, actually in there shooting. The time you spend on post production comes out of your over-head. Consider that an incentive to get it right in camera so you don't have to spend hours in post production. If the clients are friends and you ask for that kind of money, they will cease to be friends. If they're really good friends, I shoot their party for grins. If they're somewhat distant friends, I charge them a few hundred bucks. If I have to make money off my friends, I figure I'm pretty hard up. Larry's FRIEND asked him if he would be interested in doing a *JOB*. Larry didn't ask if he SHOULD charge his friends when they ask him to provide professional services, he asked HOW MUCH to charge them. It's no different than friends asking a wedding photographer to shoot their wedding. Should his friends get mad if he doesn't offer to do the job for free? Should anyone who is friends with a photographer expect that photographer to shoot their weddings, bar mitzvahs, christenings, Quinceañera, proms, seniors, family portraits, ... gratis? Why limit it to photographers? Shouldn't your friend who's a doctor provide you with free medical care? And should your friend the doctor have the gall to bill you for his professional services, shouldn't your friend who's a lawyer be willing to represent you pro bono so you can sue your friend the doctor for medical malpractice? My opinion, anyone who would ask you to do a JOB for them should be prepared to pay for your WORK. If they get mad because you quote them a fair price, THEY are the ones who are pretty hard up. Let them get mad. If they do, they're fair weather friends at best. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 27/05/2010 8:03 PM, John Sessoms wrote: My opinion, anyone who would ask you to do a JOB for them should be prepared to pay for your WORK. If they get mad because you quote them a fair price, THEY are the ones who are pretty hard up. Let them get mad. If they do, they're fair weather friends at best. I tend to agree with you on this, my caveat being don't charge friends unless you are prepared for them to no longer be friends. For myself, I just don't charge friends, or if I do, I let them buy me an expensive bottle of Scotch or some such. I don't equate what I do with what my lawyer or doctor does. William Robb -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: eckinator eckina...@gmail.com Subject: Re: What to charge to photograph a party? 2010/5/28 Ken Waller kwal...@peoplepc.com: OK you didn't make that clear it seems. Start with a kidney, work your way down to an arm and a leg and settle for 10 grand plus post processing =) Show them your Fong Dong ]=) Sounds fair to me, but I would advise against pulling out the Fong Dong in public. Aren't they the ones that make tupperware for your flash? No its his brother 'Long' Isn't he the guy in charge of the K7 silver edition? No, just the new telephoto lens you mean the one you can screw in a tripod? And you don't need an extender -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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From: Larry Colen Some friends stopped by when driving through town last night and we grabbed a bite at the local taqueria. I was showing them my 'best of' folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in a job shooting an event, I think it was his parents 50th anniversary. Assuming that the scheduling worked, I don't even know what order of magnitude to charge. If it's a 3 hour affair, that's easily 6 hours of work, so I could see people charging anywhere from $150 to $1200 for that. I figure a $1000.00 DAY RATE; DAY = 8 hrs; $500.00 - HALF DAY = 4 hrs. Additional hours @ $125.00/hr beyond HALF DAY, until you get beyond 8 hrs, then you should be charging time a half, but call it $185.00/hr ... unless you really want to discourage going overtime, then charge $200.00/hr. Figure $150.00/hour for LESS than half a day. Three hours would be $450.00 ... they might opt for HALF DAY. Charge according to how many hours you're going to be on site, actually in there shooting. The time you spend on post production comes out of your over-head. Consider that an incentive to get it right in camera so you don't have to spend hours in post production. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On May 26, 2010, at 7:29 PM, John Sessoms wrote: From: Larry Colen Some friends stopped by when driving through town last night and we grabbed a bite at the local taqueria. I was showing them my 'best of' folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in a job shooting an event, I think it was his parents 50th anniversary. Assuming that the scheduling worked, I don't even know what order of magnitude to charge. If it's a 3 hour affair, that's easily 6 hours of work, so I could see people charging anywhere from $150 to $1200 for that. I figure a $1000.00 DAY RATE; DAY = 8 hrs; $500.00 - HALF DAY = 4 hrs. Additional hours @ $125.00/hr beyond HALF DAY, until you get beyond 8 hrs, then you should be charging time a half, but call it $185.00/hr ... unless you really want to discourage going overtime, then charge $200.00/hr. Figure $150.00/hour for LESS than half a day. Three hours would be $450.00 ... they might opt for HALF DAY. Charge according to how many hours you're going to be on site, actually in there shooting. The time you spend on post production comes out of your over-head. Consider that an incentive to get it right in camera so you don't have to spend hours in post production. If the clients are friends and you ask for that kind of money, they will cease to be friends. If they're really good friends, I shoot their party for grins. If they're somewhat distant friends, I charge them a few hundred bucks. If I have to make money off my friends, I figure I'm pretty hard up. Paul -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
Larry, That's hard to figure, depends on how good friends they are. Based on seeing you work in Chicago, you'll surely shoot enough pictures. And the quality will be good, but you'll have trouble editing it all down. You could shoot 400-500 pictures and have to choose the best 50. That's not easy. I think you have to charge them for the time 6+ hours at some nominal rate, less than $100 and more than $25 per hour for friends. For somebody who walked over to your table, saw your pictures, and just asked, I'd think about it some more...probably double the above rates. You really don't want to sell yourself at $25 per hour. You're a better photographer than that! Regards, Bob S. On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:40 PM, Larry Colen l...@red4est.com wrote: Some friends stopped by when driving through town last night and we grabbed a bite at the local taqueria. I was showing them my 'best of' folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in a job shooting an event, I think it was his parents 50th anniversary. Assuming that the scheduling worked, I don't even know what order of magnitude to charge. If it's a 3 hour affair, that's easily 6 hours of work, so I could see people charging anywhere from $150 to $1200 for that. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: What to charge to photograph a party?
On 5/24/2010 3:40 PM, Larry Colen wrote:
Some friends stopped by when driving through town last night and we
grabbed a bite at the local taqueria. I was showing them my 'best of'
folder of prints and someone else there asked if I'd be interested in
a job shooting an event, I think it was his parents 50th anniversary.
Assuming that the scheduling worked, I don't even know what order of
magnitude to charge. If it's a 3 hour affair, that's easily 6 hours
of work, so I could see people charging anywhere from $150 to $1200
for that.
It's about the same as a wedding, ask what you'd be comfortable charging
for that.
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