RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread jerome

> Oh my god, it's my mom.

ROTFL!!! funniest thing I've heard all day.



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Here`s a sample:
>
> http://stevelarson.0catch.com/Fashion%20Show/Cristina%20Tigh
> t%20Bust%20(2).jpg
>

Oh my god, it's my mom.

> I used two bright lights that were on the whole time set up
> like this:
>
>
>
>
>  O - 1000 Watt light
>
>
>
> --
> -
>
>ME runway
>
>
> --
> -
>
>   O - 1000 Watt light

So the reason the right side of her face is a little darker is because
the light on that side was a little further away?

I haven't decide if I want to totally even lighting or get a little
modeling.

>
> I had the luxury of telling
> the models where to stand and how to turn to my assistant
> so he could take
> a shot. I still think you should fly me out ;)

Ha! Christian is next in line if #11 doesn't want to do it.


> If you use flash make sure
> you get a very
> fast recycle
> time. I used the AC adapter on the AF400T, it was recycling
> in TTL mode in
> about
> 4 seconds.

I'll have either the AB plugged in or the on camera flash with a
turbo, so I think I'll be ok.

> is there going to be a short
> intermission so you
> can reload?,
> or how many cameras am I going to have around my neck?

I should have a 2nd 10D by then, each of my cards hold about 80
images. Swapping cards takes about 3 seconds.

>  I would light up the whole room and forget flash if you can.

Yeah, I guess the runway needs to be lit pretty well so people can see
the clothes, right? Maybe I won't need much flash.

Thanks for your help.

tv






Re: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread Steve Larson
Here`s a sample:

http://stevelarson.0catch.com/Fashion%20Show/Cristina%20Tight%20Bust%20(2).jpg

I used two bright lights that were on the whole time set up like this:




 O - 1000 Watt light


  --
-

   ME runway

  --
-

  O - 1000 Watt light

I had the luxury of telling
the models where to stand and how to turn to my assistant so he could take
a shot. I still think you should fly me out ;) If that link doesn`t work let
me know
and I`ll email the pic to you. If you use flash make sure you get a very
fast recycle
time. I used the AC adapter on the AF400T, it was recycling in TTL mode in
about
4 seconds. I used the flash on one camera for fill with the full body shot
because
the lights didn`t get out that far when the girls first walked onto the
runway.
If you can go and do a rehearsal and take some pics of someone on
the runway it would be very beneficial. Also find out how many models there
will be, then decide on how many shots you want of each model, so you can
figure on when to reload, is there going to be a short intermission so you
can reload?,
or how many cameras am I going to have around my neck?
 I would light up the whole room and forget flash if you can.
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 9:43 PM
Subject: RE: interesting gig


> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >  I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I
> > used two 1000 watt
> > lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a
> > full body shot
> > and
> > a tight bust shot.
>
> So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?
>
> tv
>
>
>
>



Re: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread T Rittenhouse
I do forget who told me about that it was a long time back, but I assure you
I did not come up with it all by my lonely.

There is a cravat though, it is subject to the hobby business tax rules.
That is if you aren't making a profit 2 out of 5 years you can only deduct
it against photo income.

Ciao,
Graywolf
http://pages.prodigy.net/graywolfphoto


- Original Message -
From: "Len Paris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: interesting gig


>
>
> > > I wish I'd have thought of that one.
> >
> > Rittenhouse is no dummy. :)
> >
> > tv
>
> I've shot a few charitable benefits in the past without ever thinking of
> something like that. You're right, he's no dummy.
>
> Len
> ---
>




RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread Len Paris


> > I wish I'd have thought of that one.
> 
> Rittenhouse is no dummy. :)
> 
> tv

I've shot a few charitable benefits in the past without ever thinking of
something like that. You're right, he's no dummy.

Len
--- 



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Leonard Paris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> Are you going to have a chance to walk around the location
> before the shoot?

I hope so. Probably.

>   If so, have someone come along with a bit of authority so
> you can turn on
> the lights and make some readings ahead of time.

ESPNZone is a big restaurant, which is busy most of the time. Maybe I
can get in there one morning.

I've been there before, and it's got a weird layout. Basically it's
got multiple levels, with a central opening in each level. I have to
talk to the director to find out how they plan to organize it.

>  Still preaching to the choir, but, if you do
> a first rate
> job, it will probably get you some paying assignments.

Yeah, that's why I'm doing it, in addition to the facts that it should
be fun and it's a good cause.

> I wish I'd have thought of that one.

Rittenhouse is no dummy. :)

tv






RE: interesting gig

2003-05-30 Thread Leonard Paris
Are you going to have a chance to walk around the location before the shoot? 
 If so, have someone come along with a bit of authority so you can turn on 
the lights and make some readings ahead of time.
Heck he/she could even walk the runway for you so you could check your 
flash/lights, etc.  You might be able to plan, and reserve a spot for a 
slave (radio controlled) flash to supplement your on-camera flash.  
Actually, as many weddings as you have done, I know that you know the value 
of going over the ground ahead of time, too.  And a good checklist can't 
hurt, either.  Still preaching to the choir, but, if you do a first rate 
job, it will probably get you some paying assignments.  Getting a receipt 
for your estimated costs as proof of a donation is a darned good idea, too.  
I wish I'd have thought of that one.

Len
---

From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: interesting gig
Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 01:28:00 -0400
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> tom,
>
> This sounds like a couple of bee's, the battery pack and some radio
> slaves...Fun, Fun!
Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to set them up.

I did a search and looked at some runway photos, and the lighting
seems to be all over the place. I saw a few where the lighting
appeared to be 2 stobes at 45 degrees and equal power, some where it
was mostly ambient, some with only on camera flash.
I guess it will depend on the layout of the place. I'm thinking
slightly directional lighting a bit off axis...I'm also thinking I can
pretty much determine where I get to stand. If I'm close enough I may
use the ttl flash with the IR transmitter so I can keep TTL. That way
I'm not tied too much to hitting spots.
Another option would be to use the AB1600 and just light up the whole
damned room.
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RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread max mcrae
Tom wrote:
Got a call today to be the primary photographer at a fashion show.
It's a benefit for breast cancer, so they're not paying, but the
exposure seems good, the models are pros, and the designers are the
real deal.

I've never done anything like this before, so any advice is
appreciated.
The main event is a runway thing at ESPNZone in DC. Do any of you know
how this is normally shot? I figure most of the paparazzi are just
using on camera flash, but I would suspect that a few official guys
get to set up some lights. Maybe set up something semi-directional
(standard reflector with grid? small softbox with grid?), and shoot
when the model hits that spot? Set up a few lights for different
spots, maybe one halfway down the runway, one at the end?

Yes Tom, you will need to find out exactly what the lighting set up is for
the event.
If it's just tungsten floods, and spots, you will need to use flash on
camera,
and maybe drag the shutter a stop below your sync. for of a bit of fill.
I have done a few beauty contests where a runway was used, and I found that
positioning is important...you need to be somewhere in front of the runway
to
get nice frontal shots that will include interesting backgrounds for depth.
I found a 70-200 F2.8 with a built in tripod mount for ease of
orientation,(it will mostly be in portrait mode), was ideal.

Use a good quality film of at least 400 asa. (Kodak Portra VC?)
If possible try be at the same level as the runway or even higher,
(preferably seated, but you may need
to stand on something to get the elevation you need), and use a monopod for
maximum steadiness.


Mount your flash on a bracket, (I use Manfrotto's height adjustable bracket,
and find it ideal), to avoid red eye.
Use a battery pack for fast recycling. Take a spare...flash and pack.

The models are pros so they will already know to freeze momentarily
at appropriate moments especially for the photographers, so it's up to
you to recognise those moments when they occur, and snap accordingly.

I guess most of the rest of it will just be normal event photography,
like at a reception.
I also get the opportunity to shoot some of the models the day before
when they're getting fitted...I think I have a few ideas for this.

Well, it don't get any better than that...you might want to tell the models
where
you'll be photographing them from on the big day, and tell them to "play up"
to you.

I think a buying spree is in order.

Yep, knowing you have good equipment to do the job is vital.
Wish you well, I feel your excitement.
I couldn't think of a more rewarding, and exhilarating job I'd rather do.
Good luck, have a ball, and tell us how it went...we want to know
everything, including pictures!

Regards,

Max




RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Brendan
In my case the ambient was almost enough for 1600 iso
print film, so shooting superia 800 with on camera was
more than enough for F5.6 100mm and no red eye, that
and the stage size didn't allow for putting my strobes
up.

 --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
-Original Message-
> > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > tom,
> >
> > This sounds like a couple of bee's, the battery
> pack and some radio
> > slaves...Fun, Fun!
> 
> Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to set them
> up.
> 
> I did a search and looked at some runway photos, and
> the lighting
> seems to be all over the place. I saw a few where
> the lighting
> appeared to be 2 stobes at 45 degrees and equal
> power, some where it
> was mostly ambient, some with only on camera flash.
> 
> I guess it will depend on the layout of the place.
> I'm thinking
> slightly directional lighting a bit off axis...I'm
> also thinking I can
> pretty much determine where I get to stand. If I'm
> close enough I may
> use the ttl flash with the IR transmitter so I can
> keep TTL. That way
> I'm not tied too much to hitting spots.
> 
> Another option would be to use the AB1600 and just
> light up the whole
> damned room.
> 
> tv
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  

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RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Brendan
hehe :-)

 --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Damn, those
are some big scans.
> 
> tv
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:56 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: interesting gig
> > 
> > 
> > be like me, paparatzi style
> > 
> > http://www.blackcanadianmag.com/ent/index1.htm
> > 
> >  --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
> > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Steve Larson
> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Tom,
> > > >  I did a little fashion show at my daughters
> > > school and I 
> > > > used two 1000 watt
> > > > lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I
> > > setup for a 
> > > > full body shot
> > > > and
> > > > a tight bust shot. 
> > > 
> > > So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?
> > > 
> > > tv
> > > 
> > >  
> > >  
> > 
> >
>

> > __ 
> > Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
> > 
>  

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RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> tom,
>
> This sounds like a couple of bee's, the battery pack and some radio
> slaves...Fun, Fun!

Yeah, I'm just trying to figure out how to set them up.

I did a search and looked at some runway photos, and the lighting
seems to be all over the place. I saw a few where the lighting
appeared to be 2 stobes at 45 degrees and equal power, some where it
was mostly ambient, some with only on camera flash.

I guess it will depend on the layout of the place. I'm thinking
slightly directional lighting a bit off axis...I'm also thinking I can
pretty much determine where I get to stand. If I'm close enough I may
use the ttl flash with the IR transmitter so I can keep TTL. That way
I'm not tied too much to hitting spots.

Another option would be to use the AB1600 and just light up the whole
damned room.

tv







RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread tom
Damn, those are some big scans.

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: interesting gig
> 
> 
> be like me, paparatzi style
> 
> http://www.blackcanadianmag.com/ent/index1.htm
> 
>  --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
> -Original Message-
> > > From: Steve Larson
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >  I did a little fashion show at my daughters
> > school and I 
> > > used two 1000 watt
> > > lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I
> > setup for a 
> > > full body shot
> > > and
> > > a tight bust shot. 
> > 
> > So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?
> > 
> > tv
> > 
> >  
> >  
> 
> 
> __ 
> Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
> 



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread tom
They do.

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: Caveman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 12:49 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: interesting gig
> 
> 
> Tom. Check if they accept digital.
> 
> tom wrote:
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>
> >>
> >>Hi Tom,
> >> I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I 
> >>used two 1000 watt
> >>lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a 
> >>full body shot
> >>and
> >>a tight bust shot. 
> > 
> > 
> > So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?
> > 
> > tv
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> 



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Brendan
be like me, paparatzi style

http://www.blackcanadianmag.com/ent/index1.htm

 --- tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >
-Original Message-
> > From: Steve Larson
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > 
> > Hi Tom,
> >  I did a little fashion show at my daughters
> school and I 
> > used two 1000 watt
> > lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I
> setup for a 
> > full body shot
> > and
> > a tight bust shot. 
> 
> So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?
> 
> tv
> 
>  
>  

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Re: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Caveman
Tom. Check if they accept digital.

tom wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Tom,
I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I 
used two 1000 watt
lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a 
full body shot
and
a tight bust shot. 


So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?

tv

 






Re: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Bruce Dayton
tom,

This sounds like a couple of bee's, the battery pack and some radio
slaves...Fun, Fun!


Bruce



Wednesday, May 28, 2003, 9:43:33 PM, you wrote:

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Tom,
>>  I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I 
>> used two 1000 watt
>> lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a 
>> full body shot
>> and
>> a tight bust shot. 

t> So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?

t> tv




RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread tom
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Larson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> Hi Tom,
>  I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I 
> used two 1000 watt
> lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a 
> full body shot
> and
> a tight bust shot. 

So one strobe for each shot? Got any samples?

tv

 



Re: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Steve Larson
Hi Tom,
 I did a little fashion show at my daughters school and I used two 1000 watt
lamps on tripods on each side of the runway. I setup for a full body shot
and
a tight bust shot. The full body shot I used a flash with softbox because
the
models were a little farther away and the lights weren`t strong enough from
that distance. I used a 35-105/3.5 and when they hit the mark on the runway,
snap. 160ASA.
For the tight shot I used another camera with a 80-200/2.8 AF with no flash,
it was at 200mm. 400ASA
 Backgrounds were crappy so I opened up to f4.
Fashion Shows are REALLY fun.
 I think you need help, you better fly me out ;)
Steve Larson
Redondo Beach, California


- Original Message - 
From: "tom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "pdml" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: interesting gig


> Got a call today to be the primary photographer at a fashion show.
> It's a benefit for breast cancer, so they're not paying, but the
> exposure seems good, the models are pros, and the designers are the
> real deal.
>
> I've never done anything like this before, so any advice is
> appreciated.
>
> The main event is a runway thing at ESPNZone in DC. Do any of you know
> how this is normally shot? I figure most of the paparazzi are just
> using on camera flash, but I would suspect that a few official guys
> get to set up some lights. Maybe set up something semi-directional
> (standard reflector with grid? small softbox with grid?), and shoot
> when the model hits that spot? Set up a few lights for different
> spots, maybe one halfway down the runway, one at the end?
>
> I guess most of the rest of it will just be normal event photography,
> like at a reception.
>
> I also get the opportunity to shoot some of the models the day before
> when they're getting fitted...I think I have a few ideas for this.
>
> I think a buying spree is in order.
>
> tv
>
>
>
>



Re: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
I would use an on camera reflector/flash combo, like a Sof' Shoulder. I
even use this for fashion shoots where I have setup time, as the
reflector and flash move with the camera. A second flash, one stop
minus, firing into a second reflector would be good, but you can live
without it.
Paul

tom wrote:
> 
> Got a call today to be the primary photographer at a fashion show.
> It's a benefit for breast cancer, so they're not paying, but the
> exposure seems good, the models are pros, and the designers are the
> real deal.
> 
> I've never done anything like this before, so any advice is
> appreciated.
> 
> The main event is a runway thing at ESPNZone in DC. Do any of you know
> how this is normally shot? I figure most of the paparazzi are just
> using on camera flash, but I would suspect that a few official guys
> get to set up some lights. Maybe set up something semi-directional
> (standard reflector with grid? small softbox with grid?), and shoot
> when the model hits that spot? Set up a few lights for different
> spots, maybe one halfway down the runway, one at the end?
> 
> I guess most of the rest of it will just be normal event photography,
> like at a reception.
> 
> I also get the opportunity to shoot some of the models the day before
> when they're getting fitted...I think I have a few ideas for this.
> 
> I think a buying spree is in order.
> 
> tv



RE: interesting gig

2003-05-29 Thread tom
That's funny.

tv

> -Original Message-
> From: Brendan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> lots of NPZ and NPH
> 
>  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >   
>   >
> Got a call today to be the primary
> > photographer 
> > at a fashion show.
> > 
> > > I think a buying spree is in order.
> > > 
> > > tv
> > 
> > You get models,I get horses.Life is not fair
> > Cannot help with your quiry,but best of luck,and no
> > dropping things now.   : )
> > 
> > Dave
> >