Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[jtainter]

Great gallery, everyone. Thoroughly enjoyable.

And Cotty, thanks for the detailed comments. Your comments are almost as 
enjoyable as the photos.

Joe



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Eactivist]

Unsubscribe quick. These guys talk about  tea/coffee, beer, bicycles, 
motorcycles, and cars. And they crack bad puns all  the time. (Unless things 
have 
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Oh, occasionally, in between  these topics and the standard gear talk, they 
MAY talk about photography, but I  wouldn't count on it.

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In a message dated  4/5/2017 8:13:16 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
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On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:22 PM henry jounet  
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> Why are you people  using my email address for you conversations


It's the sad reality of  what happens when you subscribe to an email list.

>
>
> On  Tuesday, April 4, 2017, Jack Davis   wrote:
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> > Well said, Malcom!
> > Totally  agree!
> > J
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
>  >
> > > On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Smith   > > wrote:
>  > >
> > > Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > >
> >  > Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over  
the
> > > years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and  sometimes quite
> > > poignant viewing: the images submitted on  behalf of those friends who
> > have
> > > left us, really  was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> > >
> > >  +
> > >
> > > It was  great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with
> >  us;  I
> > > remember so well their postings to the  PDML.
> > >
> > > A really nice gallery in all for every  reason. I can't pick out a
> > favourite,
> > > I genuinely  love them all.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the kind words  about my own submission.
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[William Robb]

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 6:22 PM henry jounet 
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> Why are you people using my email address for you conversations


It's the sad reality of what happens when you subscribe to an email list.

>
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> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017, Jack Davis  wrote:
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> > Well said, Malcom!
> > Totally agree!
> > J
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Smith  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
> > > years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
> > > poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
> > have
> > > left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> > >
> > > +
> > >
> > > It was great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with
> > us;  I
> > > remember so well their postings to the PDML.
> > >
> > > A really nice gallery in all for every reason. I can't pick out a
> > favourite,
> > > I genuinely love them all.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the kind words about my own submission.
> > >
> > > Malcolm
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[John Sessoms]

My guess is trolling.

IIRC, it's a two step sign-up procedure. You have to enter your
information on the sign-up page & then you have to click the link in the
confirmation email it sends you to confirm you did indeed intend to sign up.



On 4/4/2017 20:40, Brian Walters wrote:

I'm not sure whether you're trolling or whether you truly don't know
what's going on.

If the latter, Paul already explained:

http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2017-April/434005.html


Cheers

Brian



On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, henry jounet wrote:

Why are you people using my email address for you conversations

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017, Jack Davis  wrote:


Well said, Malcom!
Totally agree!
J

Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Smith > wrote:


Steve Cottrell wrote:

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who

have

left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

+

It was great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with

us;  I

remember so well their postings to the PDML.

A really nice gallery in all for every reason. I can't pick out a

favourite,

I genuinely love them all.

Thanks for the kind words about my own submission.

Malcolm


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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Alan C]

Thanks Cotty. My fav game shot so far. I'll take your missus on a game drive 
any time!


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Steve Cottrell

Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 12:24 AM
To: pentax list
Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.



As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/


Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.

There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
one that inspired anger!

In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.

So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.

My standouts:

A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
shot of a dawg.

Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.

Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love 
it.


Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.

Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.

Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!

The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
get over it. Nicely done though.

A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!

Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)

Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.

My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
shot, against the window too but nailed it.

Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.

Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.

Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
days as a capybara.

Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.

Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT shot Rick - real strong atmosphere
what with the colours and the ghostly figures, real sense of place. Love it.

The Gathering by Jay Taylor - There's no great overriding reason why
this pic works so well. LOVE the space around the group huddled together
on the spot surrounded by all this space. Lovely vibrant colours and a
real fun pic. Super!

On the Brown Line, Chicago by Christine Aguilamonster - I've said this
before and I'll say it again. Robert Frank would have been proud to snap
that. OUTSTANDING. Top of the pile, just makes me want to go out and
take photos. Inspirational Christine. But you knew that!!! Go suck on a
bottle,

Ellie Pano by Alan Cole - my Mrs was like 'yeah yeah move on' but I'm
like 'that's really great composition', really like it

Acoma Pueblo, New Mexico by Joseph Tainter - Again, outstanding

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Ken Waller]

Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.


Thanks so much for the very nice comment Cotty.

I enjoyed going thru your comments on the images. I remember you doing this 
from days gone by.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Cottrell" <co...@seeingeye.tv>

Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!



On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.



As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/


Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.

There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
one that inspired anger!

In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.

So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.

My standouts:

A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
shot of a dawg.

Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.

Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love 
it.


Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.

Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.

Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!

The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
get over it. Nicely done though.

A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!

Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)

Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.

My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
shot, against the window too but nailed it.

Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.

Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.

Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
days as a capybara.

Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.

Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT shot Rick - real strong atmosphere
what with the colours and the ghostly figures, real sense of place. Love 
it.


The Gathering by Jay Taylor - There's no great overriding reason why
this pic works so well. LOVE the space around the group huddled together
on the spot surrounded by all this space. Lovely vibrant colours and a
real fun pic. Super!

On the Brown Line, Chicago by Christine Aguilamonster - I've said this
before and I'll say it again. Robert Frank would have been proud to snap
that. OUTSTANDING. Top of the pile, just makes me want to go out and
take photos. Inspirational Christine. But you knew that!!! Go suck on a
bottle,

Ellie Pano by Alan Cole -

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Ken Waller]

Thanks for your efforts Brian !

Many very nice images, too many to comment on.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

Subject: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!



G'day all,

Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.

It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
will stick around for a while. :-)

The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
favourites.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

So, onwards for the next 20 years...

Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

Brian

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Brian Walters]

I'm not sure whether you're trolling or whether you truly don't know
what's going on.

If the latter, Paul already explained:

http://pdml.net/pipermail/pdml_pdml.net/2017-April/434005.html


Cheers

Brian



On Wed, Apr 5, 2017, at 10:21 AM, henry jounet wrote:
> Why are you people using my email address for you conversations
> 
> On Tuesday, April 4, 2017, Jack Davis  wrote:
> 
> > Well said, Malcom!
> > Totally agree!
> > J
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Smith  > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve Cottrell wrote:
> > >
> > > Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
> > > years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
> > > poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
> > have
> > > left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> > >
> > > +
> > >
> > > It was great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with
> > us;  I
> > > remember so well their postings to the PDML.
> > >
> > > A really nice gallery in all for every reason. I can't pick out a
> > favourite,
> > > I genuinely love them all.
> > >
> > > Thanks for the kind words about my own submission.
> > >
> > > Malcolm
> > >
> > >
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[henry jounet]

Why are you people using my email address for you conversations

On Tuesday, April 4, 2017, Jack Davis  wrote:

> Well said, Malcom!
> Totally agree!
> J
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Smith  > wrote:
> >
> > Steve Cottrell wrote:
> >
> > Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
> > years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
> > poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
> have
> > left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> >
> > +
> >
> > It was great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with
> us;  I
> > remember so well their postings to the PDML.
> >
> > A really nice gallery in all for every reason. I can't pick out a
> favourite,
> > I genuinely love them all.
> >
> > Thanks for the kind words about my own submission.
> >
> > Malcolm
> >
> >
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Christine Aguila]

Thanks, Ann!  Kind of you to say so.  Cheers, Christine


> On Apr 3, 2017, at 9:55 PM, ann sanfedele  wrote:
> 
> Christine - luck and your eye.. its one of my very favorite photos, in or out 
> of PUG... or the book.
> 
> ann
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/3/2017 10:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:
>> The first review I read of yours was for our first PDML annual.  Such a joy 
>> to read!  Thanks for doing this great review for this wonderful PUG.  Like 
>> you, I really enjoyed reading everyone’s story that went along with the 
>> photo, and I, too, was struck by people’s connection to PDML and the image 
>> they chose.  PDML is such an important part of my online life even though I 
>> haven’t been that active lately.  I will be soon as I am about to clear some 
>> obligations off the to-do list.  Hopefully, life won’t intrude with new 
>> obligations.
>> 
>> Congratulations to everyone who participated.  Many of the names I’ve never 
>> seen before, which created intrigue for me.  I loved all the photos.  What a 
>> great way to celebrate a another milestone for PDML!
>> 
>> Thanks, Cotty for your kind words.  I got a little lucky that day.  xoxo
>> 
>> Cheers, Christine
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 3, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>> 
 Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
 celebrate 20 years.
 As usual you'll find the gallery here:
 
 http://pug.komkon.org/
>>> Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.
>>> 
>>> Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
>>> years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
>>> poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
>>> have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
>>> 
>>> I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
>>> proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.
>>> 
>>> There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
>>> and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
>>> eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
>>> one that inspired anger!
>>> 
>>> In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
>>> the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
>>> an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
>>> history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
>>> photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
>>> my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
>>> means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
>>> the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
>>> watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
>>> discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.
>>> 
>>> So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
>>> These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
>>> several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
>>> rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.
>>> 
>>> My standouts:
>>> 
>>> A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
>>> shot of a dawg.
>>> 
>>> Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
>>> heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.
>>> 
>>> Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
>>> lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.
>>> 
>>> Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
>>> everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.
>>> 
>>> Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
>>> before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!
>>> 
>>> The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
>>> get over it. Nicely done though.
>>> 
>>> A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
>>> vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!
>>> 
>>> Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
>>> long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
>>> Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)
>>> 
>>> Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
>>> shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.
>>> 
>>> My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
>>> shot, against the window too but nailed it.
>>> 
>>> Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.
>>> 
>>> Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
>>> You should be 

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[John Sessoms]

Verizon just announced they're merging AOL with Yahoo into a new service
called Oath (or Swear or Curse or ...).

Try this again from Yahoo.

I tried to send a reply from my Earthlink account & got a bounce from
the Spam Eating Monkey. Apparently Earthlink user Steve Moyer is still
SPAMMING mailing lists & getting Earthlink's Servers blacklisted.


On 4/3/2017 4:55 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

It's acted fine with my eactivist aol account  before. It is what I used
for years with PDML.

It may have something to  do with the fact I haven't used that email
account, period, for years. Maybe AOL  isn't used to it anymore. ;-) Anyway, I
would tend to blame AOL first, before I  look for other problems.

Marnie (aka Doe) :-)

In a message dated  4/3/2017 1:36:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
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On 4/3/2017 11:44 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

My mail does  not seem to be showing up on the  list, despite my initial
test,  but after my flip comment to Ann I decided  to add this.



It  may be something like what I get when I post from my Yahoo account.
For some  reason, Yahoo doesn't send it back so that I can see if it made
it through to  the list, soI don't see the post coming back from the
server.

Fortunately, I have this other account that does receive those  posts.


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[Jack Davis]

No! Not an "ouch!" 
Truly sorry if it stung,  Doug!!

J

I Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 8:05 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> ouch, I think.
> 
>> On 4/4/17 10:36 AM, Jack Davis wrote:
>> Alan has deftly shot down that fallacy
>> numerous times with stunning images.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You're very kind, Cotty. My only regret is having taken that shot of Anna 
>>> with the vile K7. Everyone knows you can't get a good image out of that 
>>> sensor.
>>> 
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Doug Brewer]

ouch, I think.

On 4/4/17 10:36 AM, Jack Davis wrote:

Alan has deftly shot down that fallacy
numerous times with stunning images.

J


Sent from my iPhone


On Apr 4, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:

You're very kind, Cotty. My only regret is having taken that shot of Anna with 
the vile K7. Everyone knows you can't get a good image out of that sensor.

onward.

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I, of course, could hear your touch
stuffed neatly in your cheek, it was
a chance to compliment Alan on his
camera choice.
J
Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> You're very kind, Cotty. My only regret is having taken that shot of Anna 
> with the vile K7. Everyone knows you can't get a good image out of that 
> sensor.
> 
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Jack Davis]

Alan has deftly shot down that fallacy
numerous times with stunning images.

J


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 5:47 AM, Doug Brewer  wrote:
> 
> You're very kind, Cotty. My only regret is having taken that shot of Anna 
> with the vile K7. Everyone knows you can't get a good image out of that 
> sensor.
> 
> onward.
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Mark C]

That's a fine gallery indeed - every image is engaging and it was great 
to see some photos from former members. Thanks for putting this together 
(as all those other PUG's as well)!


Mark

On 4/2/2017 8:13 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.

It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
will stick around for a while. :-)

The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
favourites.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

So, onwards for the next 20 years...

Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/




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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Alan C]

An now you tell me!

Alan C

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You're very kind, Cotty. My only regret is having taken that shot of
Anna with the vile K7. Everyone knows you can't get a good image out of
that sensor.

onward.

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Doug Brewer]

You're very kind, Cotty. My only regret is having taken that shot of 
Anna with the vile K7. Everyone knows you can't get a good image out of 
that sensor.


onward.

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Jack Davis]

Well said, Malcom!
Totally agree!
J

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 4, 2017, at 4:59 AM, Malcolm Smith  wrote:
> 
> Steve Cottrell wrote:
> 
> Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
> years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
> poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who have
> left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> 
> +
> 
> It was great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with us;  I
> remember so well their postings to the PDML.
> 
> A really nice gallery in all for every reason. I can't pick out a favourite,
> I genuinely love them all.
> 
> Thanks for the kind words about my own submission.
> 
> Malcolm
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RE: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Malcolm Smith]

Steve Cottrell wrote:

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who have
left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

+

It was great to see pictures again from those who are no longer with us;  I
remember so well their postings to the PDML.

A really nice gallery in all for every reason. I can't pick out a favourite,
I genuinely love them all.

Thanks for the kind words about my own submission.

Malcolm


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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Paul in MKE]

Cotty -

Really enjoyed reading your review of the 20th Anniversary PUG.  Thanks 
for the kind words about "Pure Joy".


The subjects are our grandson and his father, so, like the image you 
submitted, there was a bit of personal emotion involved in its 
selection. BTW, the image was cropped down a bit from the top to get rid 
of extraneous blank sky, otherwise it's the entire frame. :-)


-p


On 4/3/2017 5:24 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.
As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.

There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
one that inspired anger!

In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.

So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.

My standouts:

A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
shot of a dawg.

Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.

Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love it.

Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.

Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.

Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!

The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
get over it. Nicely done though.

A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!

Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)

Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.

My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
shot, against the window too but nailed it.

Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.

Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.

Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
days as a capybara.

Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.

Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT shot Rick - real strong atmosphere
what with the colours and the ghostly figures, real sense of place. Love it.

The Gathering by Jay Taylor - There's no great overriding reason why
this pic works so well. LOVE the space around the group huddled together
on the spot surrounded by all this space. Lovely vibrant colours and a
real fun pic. Super!

On the Brown Line, Chicago by Christine Aguilamonster - I've said this
before and I'll say it again. Robert Frank would have been proud to snap
that. OUTSTANDING. Top of the pile, just makes me want to go out and
take photos. Inspirational Christine. But you knew that!!! Go suck on a
bottle,

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[ann sanfedele]

Christine - luck and your eye.. its one of my very favorite photos, in 
or out of PUG... or the book.


ann



On 4/3/2017 10:34 PM, Christine Aguila wrote:

The first review I read of yours was for our first PDML annual.  Such a joy to 
read!  Thanks for doing this great review for this wonderful PUG.  Like you, I 
really enjoyed reading everyone’s story that went along with the photo, and I, 
too, was struck by people’s connection to PDML and the image they chose.  PDML 
is such an important part of my online life even though I haven’t been that 
active lately.  I will be soon as I am about to clear some obligations off the 
to-do list.  Hopefully, life won’t intrude with new obligations.

Congratulations to everyone who participated.  Many of the names I’ve never 
seen before, which created intrigue for me.  I loved all the photos.  What a 
great way to celebrate a another milestone for PDML!

Thanks, Cotty for your kind words.  I got a little lucky that day.  xoxo

Cheers, Christine








On Apr 3, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:

On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:


Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.
As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.

There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
one that inspired anger!

In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.

So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.

My standouts:

A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
shot of a dawg.

Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.

Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love it.

Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.

Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.

Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!

The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
get over it. Nicely done though.

A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!

Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)

Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.

My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
shot, against the window too but nailed it.

Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.

Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.

Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
days as a capybara.

Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.

Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT 

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Christine Aguila]

The first review I read of yours was for our first PDML annual.  Such a joy to 
read!  Thanks for doing this great review for this wonderful PUG.  Like you, I 
really enjoyed reading everyone’s story that went along with the photo, and I, 
too, was struck by people’s connection to PDML and the image they chose.  PDML 
is such an important part of my online life even though I haven’t been that 
active lately.  I will be soon as I am about to clear some obligations off the 
to-do list.  Hopefully, life won’t intrude with new obligations.

Congratulations to everyone who participated.  Many of the names I’ve never 
seen before, which created intrigue for me.  I loved all the photos.  What a 
great way to celebrate a another milestone for PDML!

Thanks, Cotty for your kind words.  I got a little lucky that day.  xoxo

Cheers, Christine







> On Apr 3, 2017, at 5:24 PM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
>> celebrate 20 years.
> 
>> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>> 
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.
> 
> Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
> years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
> poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
> have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> 
> I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
> proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.
> 
> There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
> and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
> eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
> one that inspired anger!
> 
> In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
> the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
> an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
> history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
> photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
> my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
> means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
> the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
> watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
> discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.
> 
> So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
> These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
> several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
> rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.
> 
> My standouts:
> 
> A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
> shot of a dawg.
> 
> Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
> heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.
> 
> Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
> lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love it.
> 
> Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.
> 
> Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
> everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.
> 
> Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
> before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!
> 
> The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
> get over it. Nicely done though.
> 
> A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
> vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!
> 
> Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
> long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
> Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)
> 
> Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
> shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.
> 
> My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
> shot, against the window too but nailed it.
> 
> Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.
> 
> Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
> You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.
> 
> Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
> photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
> utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
> Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
> days as a capybara.
> 
> Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
> colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.
> 
> Le Disque 

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Subash Jeyan]

thanks for the nice words Cotty. honoured to be mentioned. i remember
the  similar review of the very first pdml annual you did years back.
this is becoming another little pdml tradition that i enjoy. are you
sure you are in the right profession? :)

thanks again. 

~subash



On Mon, 3 Apr 2017 23:24:23 +0100
"Steve Cottrell"  wrote:

> On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
> >celebrate 20 years.  
> 
> >As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/  
> 
> Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the
> Mrs.
> 
> Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over
> the years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes
> quite poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those
> friends who have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> 
> I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all
> be proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.
> 
> There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
> and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
> eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners
> and one that inspired anger!
> 
> In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
> the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it
> was an image that meant something within their time on the PDML.
> There is history in these images, not just the obvious, but the
> history of the photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For
> instance, I chose my image not because it is a good image - it's
> really only so-so. But it means a huge amount: it was taken with
> classic Pentax film equipment, the subject is so dear to my heart,
> and it reminds me of happy days watching my son grow up, warm summer
> days in the countryside, discovering the PDML, and a zillion other
> things.
> 
> So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That
> said, These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs
> disagreed on several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while
> the same photo rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so
> she can go fish.
> 
> My standouts:
> 
> A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really
> good shot of a dawg.
> 
> Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
> heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.
> 
> Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result,
> just a lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be
> proud. I love it.
> 
> Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.
> 
> Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
> everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.
> 
> Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen
> this before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!
> 
> The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water
> FFS, get over it. Nicely done though.
> 
> A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
> vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!
> 
> Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me
> look a long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one
> name like Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)
> 
> Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
> shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.
> 
> My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
> shot, against the window too but nailed it.
> 
> Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.
> 
> Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
> You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.
> 
> Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an
> amazing photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it
> completely and utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again.
> That is fantastic. Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography
> and going to see out my days as a capybara.
> 
> Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one,
> stunning colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get
> it.
> 
> Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT shot Rick - real strong
> atmosphere what with the colours and the ghostly figures, real sense
> of place. Love it.
> 
> The Gathering by Jay Taylor - There's no great overriding reason why
> this pic works so well. LOVE the space around the group huddled
> together on the spot surrounded by all this space. Lovely vibrant
> colours and a real fun pic. Super!
> 
> On the Brown Line, Chicago by Christine Aguilamonster - I've said this
> before and I'll say it again. Robert Frank would have been proud to
> snap that. 

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Brian Walters]

Fantastic review Cotts.

Please thank the Mrs for the cooing and aaahing - even if it was misty
water FFS  :-)


Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/




On Tue, Apr 4, 2017, at 08:24 AM, Steve Cottrell wrote:
> On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
> >Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
> >celebrate 20 years.
> 
> >As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.
> 
> Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
> years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
> poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
> have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.
> 
> I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
> proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.
> 
> There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
> and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
> eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
> one that inspired anger!
> 
> In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
> the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
> an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
> history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
> photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
> my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
> means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
> the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
> watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
> discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.
> 
> So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
> These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
> several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
> rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.
> 
> My standouts:
> 
> A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
> shot of a dawg.
> 
> Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
> heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.
> 
> Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
> lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love
> it.
> 
> Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.
> 
> Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
> everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.
> 
> Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
> before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!
> 
> The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
> get over it. Nicely done though.
> 
> A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
> vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!
> 
> Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
> long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
> Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)
> 
> Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
> shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.
> 
> My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
> shot, against the window too but nailed it.
> 
> Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.
> 
> Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
> You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.
> 
> Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
> photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
> utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
> Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
> days as a capybara.
> 
> Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
> colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.
> 
> Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT shot Rick - real strong atmosphere
> what with the colours and the ghostly figures, real sense of place. Love
> it.
> 
> The Gathering by Jay Taylor - There's no great overriding reason why
> this pic works so well. LOVE the space around the group huddled together
> on the spot surrounded by all this space. Lovely vibrant colours and a
> real fun pic. Super!
> 
> On the Brown Line, Chicago by Christine Aguilamonster - I've said this
> before and I'll say it again. Robert Frank would have been proud to snap
> that. OUTSTANDING. Top of the pile, just makes me want to go out and
> take photos. 

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Steve Cottrell]

On 3/4/17, Brian Walters, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
>celebrate 20 years.

>As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
>http://pug.komkon.org/

Just had a sit down and spent an hour going through the PUG with the Mrs.

Fantastic selection of images, some I recall seeing previously over the
years, others never seen before. Really enjoyable and sometimes quite
poignant viewing: the images submitted on behalf of those friends who
have left us, really was quite touching. Lovely idea.

I could just say that the whole gallery was great and you should all be
proud and leave it at that.but I simply can't.

There are some really standout images that I can't resist  mentioning,
and some others that merit a word or two, a couple that raised an
eyebrow, a few that made me gasp, the odd meh, several award winners and
one that inspired anger!

In fact I had to explain that the pics weren't just submitted because
the photographer thought his or her image was great, but because it was
an image that meant something within their time on the PDML. There is
history in these images, not just the obvious, but the history of the
photographer, their own journeys and experiences. For instance, I chose
my image not because it is a good image - it's really only so-so. But it
means a huge amount: it was taken with classic Pentax film equipment,
the subject is so dear to my heart, and it reminds me of happy days
watching my son grow up, warm summer days in the countryside,
discovering the PDML, and a zillion other things.

So really, they can't be 'rated' as perhaps in a normal PUG. That said,
These things are *always* subjective and me and the Mrs disagreed on
several pics - she would 'oh wow' herself silly while the same photo
rated a mere 'meh' from me. But this is my email so she can go fish.

My standouts:

A Pug for the PUG by Mike Wacht - because who doesn't like a really good
shot of a dawg.

Grandfather Mountain by Bill Owens - that classic view that makes my
heart skip a beat. RIP Bill.

Gospel by Bruno Macedo - Long exposure producing stunning result, just a
lovely image. Bruno, if you're lurking and reading this, be proud. I love it.

Old Window by Simon Williams - my wife loved this. Meh. Good pic tho.

Nephews by Derby Chang - Derbs, this is supreme. Fantastic image, love
everything about it. Sheer brilliance mate. Light a cigar.

Sunset at Grandfather Mountain by Ted Beilby - Ted I've never seen this
before! Touching moment with my lad, made me well up!

The River by Brian Walters - Mrs cooed and aaahed. It's misty water FFS,
get over it. Nicely done though.

A Winter Afternoon by Vladimir Koukal - Vlad old boy, break out the
vodka, I likes a bit a symmetry when I can gets it. Lovely stuff!

Claudia - My First Photo by Krzysztof - WOW. Striking and made me look a
long time. GREAT work mate, must be a photo-god what with one name like
Brassai, Ctein, Cotty (har!)

Leading Lady by Bruce Walker - yep seen it before, dreamy bokeh, great
shot, etc etc, was expecting some nice legs or something. See teacher.

My Girls by Paul Stenquist - not seen this one before, lovely playful
shot, against the window too but nailed it.

Mount Lagorce by Ken Waller - WOW OH WOW. Breathtaking.

Fog in Hawk Wood by Malcolm Smith - LOVE THIS MALC - that is sublime.
You should be doing serious landscape work. That's a winner mate.

Descent by Subash Jeyan - holy mackerel Subers - this is such an amazing
photograph, about the BEST pic in the gallery. Love it completely and
utterly. Find myself keep having to look at it again. That is fantastic.
Can't tell you enough. I'm giving up photography and going to see out my
days as a capybara.

Happy New Year by Matt Burt - the Mrs and I agreed on this one, stunning
colours and atmosphere. Hats off that you worked hard to get it.

Le Disque Bleu by Rick Womer - GREAT shot Rick - real strong atmosphere
what with the colours and the ghostly figures, real sense of place. Love it.

The Gathering by Jay Taylor - There's no great overriding reason why
this pic works so well. LOVE the space around the group huddled together
on the spot surrounded by all this space. Lovely vibrant colours and a
real fun pic. Super!

On the Brown Line, Chicago by Christine Aguilamonster - I've said this
before and I'll say it again. Robert Frank would have been proud to snap
that. OUTSTANDING. Top of the pile, just makes me want to go out and
take photos. Inspirational Christine. But you knew that!!! Go suck on a
bottle,

Ellie Pano by Alan Cole - my Mrs was like 'yeah yeah move on' but I'm
like 'that's really great composition', really like it

Acoma Pueblo, New Mexico by Joseph Tainter - Again, outstanding work,
teasing with the crop, but absolutely superb.

Meuse Valley After the Snow by Yves Caudano - Whoa mate! Made me dizzy.
Astonishing hues. Zoning me out man. Remarkable!

Anna in the Cabin, Fontana Dam, NC by Doug Brewer - what can I say?

Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Eactivist]

It's acted fine with my eactivist aol account  before. It is what I used 
for years with PDML.

It may have something to  do with the fact I haven't used that email 
account, period, for years. Maybe AOL  isn't used to it anymore. ;-) Anyway, I 
would tend to blame AOL first, before I  look for other problems.

Marnie (aka Doe) :-)

In a message dated  4/3/2017 1:36:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
sesso...@earthlink.net  writes:
On 4/3/2017 11:44 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:
> My mail does  not seem to be showing up on the  list, despite my initial
> test,  but after my flip comment to Ann I decided  to add this.
>

It  may be something like what I get when I post from my Yahoo account.
For some  reason, Yahoo doesn't send it back so that I can see if it made
it through to  the list, soI don't see the post coming back from the  
server.

Fortunately, I have this other account that does receive those  posts.

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[John]

On 4/3/2017 11:44 AM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

My mail does not seem to be showing up on the  list, despite my initial
test, but after my flip comment to Ann I decided  to add this.



It may be something like what I get when I post from my Yahoo account.
For some reason, Yahoo doesn't send it back so that I can see if it made
it through to the list, soI don't see the post coming back from the server.

Fortunately, I have this other account that does receive those posts.

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[John Sessoms]

Very nice, but there were two that stood out for me:
Ted Beilby's Grandfather Mountain Sunset
Krzysztof's Claudia - such beautiful eyes


On 4/2/2017 8:13 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all,

Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.

It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
will stick around for a while. :-)

The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
favourites.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

So, onwards for the next 20 years...

Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Eactivist]

My mail does not seem to be showing up on the  list, despite my initial 
test, but after my flip comment to Ann I decided  to add this.

I liked Shel. I like characters, and Shel was a definite  character. He was 
also a d fine photographer. On the whole, I enjoyed him.  Until our 
last photo outing together when his grumpiness outweighed his  enjoyment in 
doing photography that particular day (his legs were bothering  him). 

It didn't hurt that he unabashedly liked my photos. Called them  painterly.

So the PUG picture is a tickle in the ribs to Shel (re  portraits), and a 
remembrance. I don't know if he is still alive. Last I heard,  quite sometime 
ago, he had a physical problem with his legs, had given up  photography 
again, and was becoming a "foodie." (I do not remember the physical  problem, 
but it was not unserious.)

His leg problem is why in later years  he mainly took pictures inside:  a 
chair, a dish of soap, etc. (still good  pictures). But before that, and in 
earlier years he had been a very good street  photographer. 

So I asked him to go to SF with me one time show me how he  did street 
photography. One of our earlier trips (I think we got together, the  two of us, 
3-4 times).

There was a flower vendor. An obvious shot, a  person surrounded by all 
those colorful flowers. So he went up and started  talking to her. (He may have 
first asked if he could take her picture, and she  said no. I don't 
remember.) He talks to her more and is taking her picture all  the time, with 
the 
camera at his waist (he did not need to look through the  viewfinder. I think 
a few others on this list could/can do that too). Finally,  she says, 
"You're not taking my picture are you?" And he said something like,  "No, I 
wouldn't do that." All the time taking her picture.

As we walked  away, I said something like, "That seems a bit underhanded." 
(or sneaky or  whatever I said). And he said, "That's how you do street  
photography."

Well, it makes a good story anyway, and it pretty much went  just like that 
(as far as I can recall). 

He recommended talking to  people to establish a connection with them, to 
relax them, and  sometimes they might consent to a photograph, and sometimes 
they might not.  

Marnie (aka Doe)  :-)



In a message dated 4/2/2017  6:06:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
what Bruce said  - wow !
but have to say two things --
I switched to a different shot in  the past and showed in PUG that wasn't 
in the 15th anniversary gallery  so no comments underneath about why 
I chose it - Brian cribbed from the 2014  PUG...

but more important - was very glad that Caesar chose the photo he  did 
that he took when we were together in NY a few days after  9/11.

and Marnie... you got revenge for me! lol

ann

On  4/2/2017 8:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Best PUG yet!
>
> I  really enjoyed browsing those shots and reading everyone's blurbs.
> Not  going to try and single any out -- it stands as a wonderful whole
> and a  testament to this group.
>
> Thank you again for all your work,  Brian.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Brian Walters   
wrote:
>> G'day  all,
>>
>> Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done  all!  A fine way to
>> celebrate 20 years.
>>
>>  It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of  you
>> will stick around for a while. :-)
>>
>> The  submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
>>  favourites.
>>
>> As usual you'll find the gallery  here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>
>>  (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous  gallery
>> there).
>>
>> Note: The automated  submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible.   So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>> gallery,  let me know.
>>
>>  +
>>
>>  So, onwards for the next 20 years...
>>
>> Next up for May:  'Leading Lines'.
>>
>> Full Submissions Guidelines  here:
>>
>>  http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>
>> You can  submit here:
>>
>>  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>  ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western  Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Eactivist]

:-)  Belated is better than  never.

Marnie (aka Doe) I actually, I think, may have mentioned  publishing at the 
time to him, but never did.

In a message dated 4/2/2017  6:06:11 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
what Bruce said  - wow !
but have to say two things --
I switched to a different shot in  the past and showed in PUG that wasn't 
in the 15th anniversary gallery  so no comments underneath about why 
I chose it - Brian cribbed from the 2014  PUG...

but more important - was very glad that Caesar chose the photo he  did 
that he took when we were together in NY a few days after  9/11.

and Marnie... you got revenge for me! lol

ann

On  4/2/2017 8:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Best PUG yet!
>
> I  really enjoyed browsing those shots and reading everyone's blurbs.
> Not  going to try and single any out -- it stands as a wonderful whole
> and a  testament to this group.
>
> Thank you again for all your work,  Brian.
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Brian Walters   
wrote:
>> G'day  all,
>>
>> Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done  all!  A fine way to
>> celebrate 20 years.
>>
>>  It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of  you
>> will stick around for a while. :-)
>>
>> The  submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
>>  favourites.
>>
>> As usual you'll find the gallery  here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/
>>
>>  (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous  gallery
>> there).
>>
>> Note: The automated  submission process usually works well but it's not
>> infallible.   So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
>> gallery,  let me know.
>>
>>  +
>>
>>  So, onwards for the next 20 years...
>>
>> Next up for May:  'Leading Lines'.
>>
>> Full Submissions Guidelines  here:
>>
>>  http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>>
>> You can  submit here:
>>
>>  http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>>
>>  Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>  ++
>> Brian Walters
>> Western  Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>  --
>> --
>>
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Steve Cottrell]

>Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
>celebrate 20 years.

Amazing! First reactions - astonishing gallery, absent friends, classic
images, just a perfect celebration of 20 years of the PUG. More soon

>As usual you'll find the gallery here:
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Alan C]

What an amazing gallery. Thanks, Brian. I obviously missed a lot in those 
first 16 years.


If I scan a PUG a day it will only take 192 days to catch up.

Alan C

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G'day all,

Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.

It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
will stick around for a while. :-)

The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
favourites.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

So, onwards for the next 20 years...

Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Bob Sullivan]

What Stan said.  Sorry I missed it.  Regards, Bob S.

On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 7:49 PM, Stanley Halpin 
wrote:

> Wow. Thanks Brian, and thanks to all for sharing your memories.
> I appreciate the submissions by Bill Owens, Mark,  and Joe McAllister by
> you Brian.
>
> All good.
>
> stan
>
> > On Apr 2, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> >
> > G'day all,
> >
> > Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
> > celebrate 20 years.
> >
> > It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
> > will stick around for a while. :-)
> >
> > The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
> > favourites.
> >
> > As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/
> >
> > (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> > there).
> >
> > Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> > infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> > gallery, let me know.
> >
> > +
> >
> > So, onwards for the next 20 years...
> >
> > Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.
> >
> > Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >
> > You can submit here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[ann sanfedele]

what Bruce said - wow !
but have to say two things --
I switched to a different shot in the past and showed in PUG that wasn't 
in the 15th anniversary gallery so no comments underneath about why 
I chose it - Brian cribbed from the 2014 PUG...


but more important - was very glad that Caesar chose the photo he did 
that he took when we were together in NY a few days after 9/11.


and Marnie... you got revenge for me! lol

ann

On 4/2/2017 8:38 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:

Best PUG yet!

I really enjoyed browsing those shots and reading everyone's blurbs.
Not going to try and single any out -- it stands as a wonderful whole
and a testament to this group.

Thank you again for all your work, Brian.


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:

G'day all,

Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
celebrate 20 years.

It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
will stick around for a while. :-)

The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
favourites.

As usual you'll find the gallery here:

http://pug.komkon.org/

(you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
there).

Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
gallery, let me know.

+

So, onwards for the next 20 years...

Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.

Full Submissions Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html

You can submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/


Cheers

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Stanley Halpin]

Wow. Thanks Brian, and thanks to all for sharing your memories. 
I appreciate the submissions by Bill Owens, Mark,  and Joe McAllister by you 
Brian.

All good.

stan

> On Apr 2, 2017, at 8:13 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> G'day all,
> 
> Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
> celebrate 20 years.
> 
> It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
> will stick around for a while. :-)
> 
> The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
> favourites.
> 
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
> 
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
> 
> +
> 
> So, onwards for the next 20 years...
> 
> Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.
> 
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> 
> You can submit here:
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG is Up!

[Bruce Walker]

Best PUG yet!

I really enjoyed browsing those shots and reading everyone's blurbs.
Not going to try and single any out -- it stands as a wonderful whole
and a testament to this group.

Thank you again for all your work, Brian.


On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 8:13 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all,
>
> Well, we ended up with 70 submissions - well done all!  A fine way to
> celebrate 20 years.
>
> It was great to hear from a number of past members - maybe some of you
> will stick around for a while. :-)
>
> The submissions are wide ranging in scope so no point in trying to pick
> favourites.
>
> As usual you'll find the gallery here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/
>
> (you may need to refresh your browser if you see the previous gallery
> there).
>
> Note: The automated submission process usually works well but it's not
> infallible.  So, if you made a submission and you don't see it in the
> gallery, let me know.
>
> +
>
> So, onwards for the next 20 years...
>
> Next up for May: 'Leading Lines'.
>
> Full Submissions Guidelines here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
>
> You can submit here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - going...going.....

[Doug Brewer]

Thanks, Brian. I fired off a missive to MJ a few minutes ago. Whether he 
responds or not shouldn't affect your schedule; I told him it would go 
live the first part of the week.


I might now have a trawl through my archives to see if I've made a good 
photo in the last twenty years.


On 3/31/17 10:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Hi Doug

Thanks for the kind words.  It's a privilege to compile the PUG each
month (and not really a great amount of work!).  There's so much variety
of photography and I get to see it all first

I don't have a fixed date for publishing.  I usually compile it as the
submissions come in so that it can be uploaded within a day or two of
submissions closing. For this gallery, I'll close of submissions when I
wake up on Monday morning (Sydney time), so it can be published any time
after that.  I can easily hold off until after you've liaised with MJ.



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - going...going.....

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017, at 03:10 PM, Bill wrote:
> On 3/31/2017 3:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > G'day all
> >
> > I'll be closing submissions on Sunday evening (Apr 2) - Sydney time (or
> > maybe Monday morning).
> >
> 
> If you will leave it open until Monday morning your time, I would 
> appreciate it.


Not a problem.


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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - going...going.....

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On 3/31/2017 3:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Sunday evening (Apr 2) - Sydney time (or
maybe Monday morning).



If you will leave it open until Monday morning your time, I would 
appreciate it.


thanks

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - going...going.....

[ann sanfedele]

wait - should MJ be submitting one too?

just sayin

ann

On 3/31/2017 10:00 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

Hi Doug

Thanks for the kind words.  It's a privilege to compile the PUG each
month (and not really a great amount of work!).  There's so much variety
of photography and I get to see it all first

I don't have a fixed date for publishing.  I usually compile it as the
submissions come in so that it can be uploaded within a day or two of
submissions closing. For this gallery, I'll close of submissions when I
wake up on Monday morning (Sydney time), so it can be published any time
after that.  I can easily hold off until after you've liaised with MJ.



Cheers

Brian

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On Sat, Apr 1, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:

Brian,

First, thank you for your continued attention and effort to keep the PUG
running. I owe, indeed we all owe, a great deal of gratitude to all the
PUGmeisters who have served over the last twenty years, and to Igor and
Komkon for the space.

As you know, web years are tallied differently than real years, and the
long life of the PUG is a genuine rarity in the online world, something
of which we can all be proud of having accomplished. That the PUG has
always been about where we are as photographers in this moment, rather
than a competition or otherwise curated, is even more rare, and should
be noted.

Do you have a target date in mind for publishing the anniversary
edition? I thought I might drop a note to Mike Johnston over at The
Online Photographer to tell him about the anniversary. He might write up
something for his audience, and he might not, but it's worth him knowing.

Thanks again,

Doug


On 3/31/17 5:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Sunday evening (Apr 2) - Sydney time (or
maybe Monday morning).

As I mentioned elsewhere, we currently have 54 submissions - quite a few
from former PDMLers. There's still time to get yours in.

As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Full Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - going...going.....

[Brian Walters]

Hi Doug

Thanks for the kind words.  It's a privilege to compile the PUG each
month (and not really a great amount of work!).  There's so much variety
of photography and I get to see it all first

I don't have a fixed date for publishing.  I usually compile it as the
submissions come in so that it can be uploaded within a day or two of
submissions closing. For this gallery, I'll close of submissions when I
wake up on Monday morning (Sydney time), so it can be published any time
after that.  I can easily hold off until after you've liaised with MJ. 



Cheers

Brian

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On Sat, Apr 1, 2017, at 11:42 AM, Doug Brewer wrote:
> Brian,
> 
> First, thank you for your continued attention and effort to keep the PUG 
> running. I owe, indeed we all owe, a great deal of gratitude to all the 
> PUGmeisters who have served over the last twenty years, and to Igor and 
> Komkon for the space.
> 
> As you know, web years are tallied differently than real years, and the 
> long life of the PUG is a genuine rarity in the online world, something 
> of which we can all be proud of having accomplished. That the PUG has 
> always been about where we are as photographers in this moment, rather 
> than a competition or otherwise curated, is even more rare, and should 
> be noted.
> 
> Do you have a target date in mind for publishing the anniversary 
> edition? I thought I might drop a note to Mike Johnston over at The 
> Online Photographer to tell him about the anniversary. He might write up 
> something for his audience, and he might not, but it's worth him knowing.
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> Doug
> 
> 
> On 3/31/17 5:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > G'day all
> >
> > I'll be closing submissions on Sunday evening (Apr 2) - Sydney time (or
> > maybe Monday morning).
> >
> > As I mentioned elsewhere, we currently have 54 submissions - quite a few
> > from former PDMLers. There's still time to get yours in.
> >
> > As usual submit here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> > Full Submission Guidelines here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
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> >
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - going...going.....

[Doug Brewer]

Brian,

First, thank you for your continued attention and effort to keep the PUG 
running. I owe, indeed we all owe, a great deal of gratitude to all the 
PUGmeisters who have served over the last twenty years, and to Igor and 
Komkon for the space.


As you know, web years are tallied differently than real years, and the 
long life of the PUG is a genuine rarity in the online world, something 
of which we can all be proud of having accomplished. That the PUG has 
always been about where we are as photographers in this moment, rather 
than a competition or otherwise curated, is even more rare, and should 
be noted.


Do you have a target date in mind for publishing the anniversary 
edition? I thought I might drop a note to Mike Johnston over at The 
Online Photographer to tell him about the anniversary. He might write up 
something for his audience, and he might not, but it's worth him knowing.


Thanks again,

Doug


On 3/31/17 5:55 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

I'll be closing submissions on Sunday evening (Apr 2) - Sydney time (or
maybe Monday morning).

As I mentioned elsewhere, we currently have 54 submissions - quite a few
from former PDMLers. There's still time to get yours in.

As usual submit here:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Full Submission Guidelines here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/autosubmit.html


Cheers

Brian

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

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On Fri, Mar 24, 2017, at 01:34 PM, ann sanfedele wrote:
> Hmmm - how far back are the PUG's archived?  maybe those are there and 
> can be grabbed from the archived PUG page


They are archived all the way back to the start :-)  - but the
resolution of those early galleries might be too low for PJ's needs.


http://pug.komkon.org/general/pastgalleries.html



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> 
> 
> On 3/23/2017 10:28 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
> > I'm down to two images from past pugs that I'd like to post, however I 
> > cannot find the original negatives, and the original scanned files 
> > were lost in a hard drive crash, which I hadn't bothered to back up, 
> > since I had the original negatives...
> >
> >
> > On 3/21/2017 1:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
> >> G'day, all
> >>
> >> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> >> from past list members.
> >>
> >> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
> >>
> >> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
> >>
> >> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> >> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
> >>
> >> Nom. closing date 31 March.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> ++
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[ann sanfedele]

Hmmm - how far back are the PUG's archived?  maybe those are there and 
can be grabbed from the archived PUG page


ann


On 3/23/2017 10:28 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I'm down to two images from past pugs that I'd like to post, however I 
cannot find the original negatives, and the original scanned files 
were lost in a hard drive crash, which I hadn't bothered to back up, 
since I had the original negatives...



On 3/21/2017 1:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day, all

A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
from past list members.

Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery

Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
submission form and Submission Guidelines:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html

Nom. closing date 31 March.


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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Mark C]

Keep on looking - I wanted to re-scan my image and went to the very well 
organized file cabinet of slides only to find my subject slide missing 
from the page. A few hours later after rummaging through various boxes I 
found a page will all my best older images in it - including the one 
that initially searched for. I remember throwing that page in the box a 
year or so ago, thinking that they were dups and not originals. Looking 
at the dates I realized that they were the originals. I'll probably 
never use them again (except maybe for a future PUG anniversary) but I 
was glad I hadn't tossed that page.


So - keep on looking.

Mark

On 3/23/2017 10:28 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:
I'm down to two images from past pugs that I'd like to post, however I 
cannot find the original negatives, and the original scanned files 
were lost in a hard drive crash, which I hadn't bothered to back up, 
since I had the original negatives...



On 3/21/2017 1:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day, all

A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
from past list members.

Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery

Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
submission form and Submission Guidelines:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html

Nom. closing date 31 March.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Jan van Wijk]

On 3/21/2017 1:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>G'day, all
>
>A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
>from past list members.
>
>Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Done

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[John Sessoms]

I don't have any useful advice for you, but your dilemma reminded me of
a song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkqAEjZfVv8

I'm sort of down to looking through negatives now myself. Did I do
anything in 1997 that was good enough I want to allow others to see it?

I have a back-up plan in case I didn't. I've set myself a deadline this
weekend.

On 3/23/2017 10:28 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

I'm down to two images from past pugs that I'd like to post, however I
cannot find the original negatives, and the original scanned files were
lost in a hard drive crash, which I hadn't bothered to back up, since I
had the original negatives...


On 3/21/2017 1:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day, all

A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
from past list members.

Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery

Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
submission form and Submission Guidelines:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html

Nom. closing date 31 March.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[P. J. Alling]

I'm down to two images from past pugs that I'd like to post, however I 
cannot find the original negatives, and the original scanned files were 
lost in a hard drive crash, which I hadn't bothered to back up, since I 
had the original negatives...



On 3/21/2017 1:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day, all

A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
from past list members.

Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery

Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
submission form and Submission Guidelines:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html

Nom. closing date 31 March.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, I saw that David.

I forgot exactly how and why I sent those images to Dario.  I think he
posted something here looking for images from the 1960s and early 1970s
taken with Spotties.

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 3:01 PM, David J Brooks  wrote:

> two of mine at the bottom. Totaly forgot about this
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola 
> wrote:
> > I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  
> >
> > While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
> > ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
> > the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:
> >
> > http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html
> >
> >
> > Dan Matyola
> > http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> G'day, all
> >>
> >> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> >> from past list members.
> >>
> >> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
> >>
> >> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
> >>
> >> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> >> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
> >>
> >> Nom. closing date 31 March.
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Brian
> >>
> >> ++
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Brian Walters]

Thank you, kind sir (and Chris and Don, too!)


Cheers

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On Wed, Mar 22, 2017, at 05:07 AM, Bruce Walker wrote:
> Done!
> 
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
> > G'day, all
> >
> > A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> > from past list members.
> >
> > Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
> >
> > Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
> >
> > Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> > submission form and Submission Guidelines:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
> >
> > Nom. closing date 31 March.
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

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two of mine at the bottom. Totaly forgot about this

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 9:45 AM, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:
> I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  
>
> While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
> ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
> the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:
>
> http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
>
>> G'day, all
>>
>> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
>> from past list members.
>>
>> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>>
>> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>>
>> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
>> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>>
>> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Bruce Walker]

Done!

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day, all
>
> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> from past list members.
>
> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>
> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>
> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>
> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>
>
> Cheers
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Thanks, Igor.

That site is specifically related to the LX.

I was never rich enough or artistic enough to justify getting an LX.

The Spotmatic is the camera I used for the longest period of time, by far.
It was a rugged little thing that lasted decades,\

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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 10:08 AM, Igor PDML-StR  wrote:

>
> Dan,
>
> Just in case, - PUG has this old gallery that is similar in its idea:
> http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/
> (The 3rd link on the left shows the images.)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Igor
>
>
> Tue Mar 21 09:45:08 EDT 2017 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
>
> I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  
>
> While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
> ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
> the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:
>
> http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html
>
>
> Dan Matyola
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>
> On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
> wrote:
>
> G'day, all
>>
>> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
>> from past list members.
>>
>> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>>
>> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>>
>> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
>> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>>
>> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Igor PDML-StR]

Dan,

Just in case, - PUG has this old gallery that is similar in its idea:
http://pug.komkon.org/LX_Gallery/
(The 3rd link on the left shows the images.)

Cheers,

Igor


Tue Mar 21 09:45:08 EDT 2017 Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  

While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:

http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html


Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
wrote:


G'day, all

A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
from past list members.

Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!

Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery

Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
submission form and Submission Guidelines:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html

Nom. closing date 31 March.


Cheers

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[Daniel J. Matyola]

I think I know the one I will post, but I am still considering.  

While reviewing some of my older images, I came across this piece of
ancient history from Dario Bonazza, the keeper of the AOHC flame, marking
the first 40 years since the introduction of the Spotmatic:

http://www.aohc.it/_old/picte.html


Dan Matyola
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> G'day, all
>
> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> from past list members.
>
> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>
> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>
> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>
> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG - Countdown

[David J Brooks]

I have it narrowed done to 6 shots, getting there

Dave

On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 1:47 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day, all
>
> A good start to this special gallery - already 20 submissions, mainly
> from past list members.
>
> Don't leave it 'till the last minute. Please!!
>
> Theme: 20th Anniversary Gallery
>
> Full details here including suggested submission topics, link to
> submission form and Submission Guidelines:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/20th-anniversary.html
>
> Nom. closing date 31 March.
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
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Re: 20th

[Jack Davis]

Thanks much, Igor!
Good info.

J

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> 
> 
> Jack,
> 
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> 
> Just in case, - that link is at the bottom of every PUG, at the bottom of the 
> page. So, you can find it any time.
> And the PUG address is http://pug.komkon.org/
> 
> And as for the special 20th anniversary PUG, there is a special page that
> has additional information about this one (with the same link to the
> submission page):
> http://pug.komkon.org/20th-anniversary.html
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 9, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Jack Davis  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would someone please end the address, etc for the the Pug submissions.
>> Thanks!
>> 
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Re: 20th

[Igor PDML-StR]

Jack,

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

Just in case, - that link is at the bottom of every PUG, at the bottom 
of the page. So, you can find it any time.

And the PUG address is http://pug.komkon.org/

And as for the special 20th anniversary PUG, there is a special page that
has additional information about this one (with the same link to the
submission page):
http://pug.komkon.org/20th-anniversary.html

Igor



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Would someone please end the address, etc for the the Pug submissions.
Thanks!

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Re: 20th

[Daniel J. Matyola]

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:18 PM, John  wrote:

> I do have a photograph that I consider my best ever, but I've used it
> several times already and I'd really like to move on to see if I can do
> better.
>

Thai's understandable, but I would like to see the one you consider your
best ever.

YMMV.

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[John]

For me, it's the same photograph.

On 12/21/2016 9:40 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

How about an all time favorite photograph rather than one's best? Not
the same of course. The first is easy for me; the latter would be
difficult.

Paul via phone


On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:18 PM, John  wrote:


On 12/21/2016 12:36 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:

How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best of 
their work.


I'd never be able to decide.  And I'd probably find it was taken with another 
brand.

I'd be happy with an open gallery or maybe an "anniversary" theme.

Cheers,
Dave




I do have a photograph that I consider my best ever, but I've used it
several times already and I'd really like to move on to see if I can do
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[ann sanfedele]

I have about 100 photos I'd say that I'm really quite pleased with  
(that sounds rude, but I have taken well over 200,000 photos)  I could 
no more pic ONE favorite photo of mine than I could pick one favorite 
food or one favorite filmor one favorite place or one favorite book or 
even one favorite friend...


Guess you could say I've just always been fickle.  I can pick favorites 
out of smaller "n"  -  ahve to do that every year for the annual :-)


ann


On 12/21/2016 9:18 PM, John wrote:

On 12/21/2016 12:36 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:

How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, 
very best of their work.


I'd never be able to decide.  And I'd probably find it was taken with 
another brand.


I'd be happy with an open gallery or maybe an "anniversary" theme.

Cheers,
Dave




I do have a photograph that I consider my best ever, but I've used it
several times already and I'd really like to move on to see if I can do
better.




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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Paul Stenquist]

How about an all time favorite photograph rather than one's best? Not the same 
of course. The first is easy for me; the latter would be difficult. 

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> On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:18 PM, John  wrote:
> 
>> On 12/21/2016 12:36 AM, David Mann wrote:
>>> On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:
>>> 
>>> How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best 
>>> of their work.
>> 
>> I'd never be able to decide.  And I'd probably find it was taken with 
>> another brand.
>> 
>> I'd be happy with an open gallery or maybe an "anniversary" theme.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
> 
> I do have a photograph that I consider my best ever, but I've used it
> several times already and I'd really like to move on to see if I can do
> better.
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[John]

On 12/21/2016 12:36 AM, David Mann wrote:

On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:


How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best of 
their work.


I'd never be able to decide.  And I'd probably find it was taken with another 
brand.

I'd be happy with an open gallery or maybe an "anniversary" theme.

Cheers,
Dave




I do have a photograph that I consider my best ever, but I've used it
several times already and I'd really like to move on to see if I can do
better.

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Henk Terhell]

There was an all time favourite back in July 2014.
And the 15th anniversary was also a sort of own favorite from previous 
submissions.
Therefore I would like the idea of selecting a pic representing one's 
favorite subject.


Henk

Op 2016-12-21 om 06:36 schreef David Mann:

On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:


How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best of 
their work.

I'd never be able to decide.  And I'd probably find it was taken with another 
brand.

I'd be happy with an open gallery or maybe an "anniversary" theme.

Cheers,
Dave





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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[David Mann]

On Dec 21, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Ken Waller  wrote:

> How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best 
> of their work.

I'd never be able to decide.  And I'd probably find it was taken with another 
brand.

I'd be happy with an open gallery or maybe an "anniversary" theme.

Cheers,
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[John]

On 12/20/2016 3:57 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I know that in April 2017, we are having the 20th anniversary PUG.  Has
there been any guidance on what we should submit?

Two possible ideas:

1.  Perhaps it could be a mini gallery from each submiter, including a
certain small number (4?  6?) of images that each submitter considers to
be
representative of the type of images he or she likes to make.

2.  It could also be used to feature images from our first Pentadx
camera.

3.  Another possibility would be to have each chose his or her favorite
from prior PUG submissions.

Just a few random and uninvited thoughts from the foggy brain of an old
geezer.




From one old geezer to another


I'm open to suggestions but, whatever we decide,  I wouldn't want the
guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
has only a few (or no) past submissions.



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Brian Walters]

Keep the ideas coming - I'm filing this thread for review in the New
Year.


Cheers

Brian

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On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 08:26 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
> >...how about "the first photo I can remember being proud of at the time" ?
> 
> Jostein, that was on my mind when I sent the email, but thought I'd limit
> my 
> input to just one suggestion. Great minds..
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jostein" <p...@alunfoto.no>
> Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG
> 
> 
> > Anniversaries are often retrospective, so I think Ken's idea is a good 
> > one. So is Dan's #2, but I don't have a functioning scanner anymore... :-(
> > For another idea, how about "the first photo I can remember being proud of 
> > at the time" ?
> >
> > Jostein
> >
> >
> > Den 20.12.2016 22.05, skrev Ken Waller:
> >> How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very
> >> best of their work.
> >>
> >> Kenneth Waller
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> >>
> >> - Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" 
> >> <supera1...@fastmail.fm>
> >> Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >>>> I know that in April 2017, we are having the 20th anniversary PUG.  Has
> >>>> there been any guidance on what we should submit?
> >>>>
> >>>> Two possible ideas:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1.  Perhaps it could be a mini gallery from each submiter, including a
> >>>> certain small number (4?  6?) of images that each submitter considers 
> >>>> to
> >>>> be
> >>>> representative of the type of images he or she likes to make.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2.  It could also be used to feature images from our first Pentadx
> >>>> camera.
> >>>>
> >>>> 3.  Another possibility would be to have each chose his or her favorite
> >>>> from prior PUG submissions.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a few random and uninvited thoughts from the foggy brain of an old
> >>>> geezer.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From one old geezer to another
> >>>
> >>> I'm open to suggestions but, whatever we decide,  I wouldn't want the
> >>> guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
> >>> has only a few (or no) past submissions.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>> ++
> >>> Brian Walters
> >>> Western Sydney Australia
> >>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Ken Waller]

...how about "the first photo I can remember being proud of at the time" ?


Jostein, that was on my mind when I sent the email, but thought I'd limit my 
input to just one suggestion. Great minds..


Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Jostein" <p...@alunfoto.no>

Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG


Anniversaries are often retrospective, so I think Ken's idea is a good 
one. So is Dan's #2, but I don't have a functioning scanner anymore... :-(
For another idea, how about "the first photo I can remember being proud of 
at the time" ?


Jostein


Den 20.12.2016 22.05, skrev Ken Waller:

How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very
best of their work.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" 
<supera1...@fastmail.fm>

Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I know that in April 2017, we are having the 20th anniversary PUG.  Has
there been any guidance on what we should submit?

Two possible ideas:

1.  Perhaps it could be a mini gallery from each submiter, including a
certain small number (4?  6?) of images that each submitter considers 
to

be
representative of the type of images he or she likes to make.

2.  It could also be used to feature images from our first Pentadx
camera.

3.  Another possibility would be to have each chose his or her favorite
from prior PUG submissions.

Just a few random and uninvited thoughts from the foggy brain of an old
geezer.



From one old geezer to another

I'm open to suggestions but, whatever we decide,  I wouldn't want the
guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
has only a few (or no) past submissions.


Cheers

Brian

++
Brian Walters
Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Jostein]

Anniversaries are often retrospective, so I think Ken's idea is a good 
one. So is Dan's #2, but I don't have a functioning scanner anymore... :-(
For another idea, how about "the first photo I can remember being proud 
of at the time" ?


Jostein


Den 20.12.2016 22.05, skrev Ken Waller:

How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very
best of their work.

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - From: "Brian Walters" <supera1...@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I know that in April 2017, we are having the 20th anniversary PUG.  Has
there been any guidance on what we should submit?

Two possible ideas:

1.  Perhaps it could be a mini gallery from each submiter, including a
certain small number (4?  6?) of images that each submitter considers to
be
representative of the type of images he or she likes to make.

2.  It could also be used to feature images from our first Pentadx
camera.

3.  Another possibility would be to have each chose his or her favorite
from prior PUG submissions.

Just a few random and uninvited thoughts from the foggy brain of an old
geezer.



From one old geezer to another

I'm open to suggestions but, whatever we decide,  I wouldn't want the
guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
has only a few (or no) past submissions.


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/





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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Ken Waller]

How about submitting one image that the photog feels is the very, very best 
of their work.


Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" <supera1...@fastmail.fm>

Subject: Re: 20th Anniversary PUG



On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I know that in April 2017, we are having the 20th anniversary PUG.  Has
there been any guidance on what we should submit?

Two possible ideas:

1.  Perhaps it could be a mini gallery from each submiter, including a
certain small number (4?  6?) of images that each submitter considers to
be
representative of the type of images he or she likes to make.

2.  It could also be used to feature images from our first Pentadx
camera.

3.  Another possibility would be to have each chose his or her favorite
from prior PUG submissions.

Just a few random and uninvited thoughts from the foggy brain of an old
geezer.



From one old geezer to another

I'm open to suggestions but, whatever we decide,  I wouldn't want the
guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
has only a few (or no) past submissions.


Cheers

Brian

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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Daniel J. Matyola]

On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Brian Walters 
wrote:

> I wouldn't want the
> guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
> has only a few (or no) past submissions.
>
I agree.  Everyone should be encouraged to submit.  Any of the suggestions
I made should be optional, not compulsory, but it might make a more
interesting PUG if we did something other than just an "open" gallery.


Dan Matyola
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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Brian Walters]

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016, at 06:15 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> I know that in April 2017, we are having the 20th anniversary PUG.  Has
> there been any guidance on what we should submit?
> 
> Two possible ideas:
> 
> 1.  Perhaps it could be a mini gallery from each submiter, including a
> certain small number (4?  6?) of images that each submitter considers to
> be
> representative of the type of images he or she likes to make.
> 
> 2.  It could also be used to feature images from our first Pentadx
> camera.
> 
> 3.  Another possibility would be to have each chose his or her favorite
> from prior PUG submissions.
> 
> Just a few random and uninvited thoughts from the foggy brain of an old
> geezer.


>From one old geezer to another

I'm open to suggestions but, whatever we decide,  I wouldn't want the
guideline to be too prescriptive - don't want to discourage anyone who
has only a few (or no) past submissions.


Cheers

Brian

++
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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/



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Re: 20th Anniversary PUG

[Mark Stringer]

Happy Anniversary to my fellow PUG'rs.  I'm still here, just 6959 
messages behind. Our move from Carencro, (named after a bird that eats 
dead flesh) back to Lafayette (named after some Frenchman) has me 
overwhelmed. From 4000 sq ft to 2000 sq ft I'm lucky I can find 
anything. I do know where my cameras are but not sure I remember how to 
use them. So far we have only lost one box but it is the one with all 
the remotes in it. The New Year brings much hope.


Grateful for all the good things this year!

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays or whatever blows your skirt up.

I'm gonna read everyone.

Mark Stringer




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