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On 18/3/05, Takehiko Ueda, discombobulated, unleashed: Hi all, to be more spcific, the site which cotty referred to http:dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2005/03/18/1209.html says as follows; 'beside (the mock-ups), there's an inquiry as to your impression from models A, B and C,and your opinion about digital cameras. lucky 3answerers will be given *ist-ds (silver!) with da18-55al, optio750z or optlo wp. the iquiry is just for research purpose in development, not the popularity contestg, and the result will not be publicised. hth sincerely, takehiko ueda [EMAIL PROTECTED] osaka jpn Thanks Take, here's a correct URL: http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2005/03/18/1209.html Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=|http://www.cottysnaps.com _
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William, You are correct about C having a classic Pentax look. That must be why I like that body the best. Village Idiot - Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here Alin Flaider wrote: Citroens follow the shape of a falling blob, the B (and the thing that inspired it) look like inflated frogs. Now we know what you do during those long, cold, lonely Romanian winters. Hope Valentin hasn't exported the pastime to Canada 8-) Oh Man!! I had forgoten the childhood games of Frog Bowling. I like C, FWIW. It looks like a Pentax. William Robb
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I thought that they already made a Pentax 67 Lens to Pentax 645 Body Adapter? Village Idiot In that case they could intend to sell a big circular lens converter for 67 lenses where you just pop that ring off and add the converter. John Francis wrote: Village Idiot mused: My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder. I like the classic straight name. I think the curved nameplate has a cheap look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line. If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all around the lens mount, and the name follows this. I don't see any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work; the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
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In that case they could intend to sell a big circular lens converter for 67 lenses where you just pop that ring off and add the converter. John Francis wrote: Village Idiot mused: My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder. I like the classic straight name. I think the curved nameplate has a cheap look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line. If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all around the lens mount, and the name follows this. I don't see any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work; the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
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Silly me. Village Idiot Don't you want Pentax to sell new products, (besides you could maintain full available automation, something you lose with the current converter). Village Idiot wrote: I thought that they already made a Pentax 67 Lens to Pentax 645 Body Adapter? Village Idiot In that case they could intend to sell a big circular lens converter for 67 lenses where you just pop that ring off and add the converter. John Francis wrote: Village Idiot mused: My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder. I like the classic straight name. I think the curved nameplate has a cheap look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line. If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all around the lens mount, and the name follows this. I don't see any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work; the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
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Don't you want Pentax to sell new products, (besides you could maintain full available automation, something you lose with the current converter). Village Idiot wrote: I thought that they already made a Pentax 67 Lens to Pentax 645 Body Adapter? Village Idiot In that case they could intend to sell a big circular lens converter for 67 lenses where you just pop that ring off and add the converter. John Francis wrote: Village Idiot mused: My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder. I like the classic straight name. I think the curved nameplate has a cheap look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line. If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all around the lens mount, and the name follows this. I don't see any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work; the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645. -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke -- I can understand why mankind hasn't given up war. During a war you get to drive tanks through the sides of buildings and shoot foreigners - two things that are usually frowned on during peacetime. --P.J. O'Rourke
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On Mar 17, 2005, at 4:06 PM, John Francis wrote: FWIW, I prefer design C. Me too. I think it'd look a lot better with a square hood fitted to the lens, too. Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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Rob Studdert wrote on 17.03.05 9:14: If the C body (*ist D family likeness) is really an option then we can pretty much assume that mechanical aperture coupling won't be an option since the aperture ring will be difficult to operate because of the superfluous prism overhang. Probably as cost saving move. LOL Don't worry. They'll repair it via firmware update ;-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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TU You can see the image of DA12-24 here; TU http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/16927-1200-2-3.html Contrary to few rumours that are floating on dpreview (pure speculation forums as always), the lens doesn't reminiscence the Tokina 12-24 at all. Good light! fra
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Frantisek wrote on 17.03.05 10:11: Contrary to few rumours that are floating on dpreview (pure speculation forums as always), the lens doesn't reminiscence the Tokina 12-24 at all. No, it doesn't. But on the other side Nikkor ED 70-300/4-5.6 doesn't reminiscent Tamorn 70-300 at all but all know that these are the same lenses produced by Tamron ;-P -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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The lens gives some sense of scale. All of them seem to be smaller than a Canon 1DS. That could be a very good thing. Paul On Mar 16, 2005, at 11:36 PM, Village Idiot wrote: IMHO C is by far the best looking and A is definitely the ugliest. Then again, what do I know? Village Idiot OK, so it's settled. C it is. Who wants to tell Pentax? -Marco On Mar 16, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Alan Chan wrote: --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer design C. So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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From: Paul Stenquist [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2005/03/17 Thu AM 10:55:04 GMT To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here The lens gives some sense of scale. All of them seem to be smaller than a Canon 1DS. That could be a very good thing. B looks like it might have an electronic viewfinder. There is very little space for a prism, if you compare it to the other two. Of the other two, C looks like it might be a little cramped for a prism, also. Difficult to judge on such slim evidence but that doesn't usually stop anyone 8-) mike - Email sent from www.ntlworld.com virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software visit www.ntlworld.com/security for more information
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m9wnc B looks like it might have an electronic viewfinder. m9wnc There is very little space for a prism, if you compare it to m9wnc the other two. Of the other two, C looks like it might be a m9wnc little cramped for a prism, also. Difficult to judge on such m9wnc slim evidence but that doesn't usually stop anyone 8-) All have square body with mirror housing, definitely. Also, the Kodak sensor is not capable of electronic viewfinder at all. That's just technological impossibility at this moment. Third, IstD has a very small prism too. Good light! fra
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On 17 Mar 2005 at 11:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B looks like it might have an electronic viewfinder. There is very little space for a prism, if you compare it to the other two. Of the other two, C looks like it might be a little cramped for a prism, also. Difficult to judge on such slim evidence but that doesn't usually stop anyone 8-) It's a relatively big body with a 1.3 crop factor so the prism will be between a 35mm and 645 prism, I think there is plenty of room to house a prism in any of the bodies. Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Frantisek wrote on 17.03.05 13:17: All have square body with mirror housing, definitely. Also, the Kodak sensor is not capable of electronic viewfinder at all. That's just technological impossibility at this moment. Third, IstD has a very small prism too. Actually I think all MZ-series Pentax SLRs have very small prisms too :-) -- Balance is the ultimate good... Best Regards Sylwek
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Doesn't A look a little bit like the Leica R8? Cheers, Ronald From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Pentax List pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: 645D Photos (under glass) here Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:36:16 -0800 Not one, not two, but three different mock ups: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ I'm thinking this thing is still pretty far away. There also seems to be a chart with a lens development timeline, but unfortunately there's no large version yet. -Marco
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On 17 Mar 2005 at 13:40, Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Doesn't A look a little bit like the Leica R8? I think maybe it's more like mongrel cross between a Canon IX APS SLR and an Oly E-10 :-( I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Are they really? I find that funny. Let's take an official vote on the PDML. According to another web site (in Japanese), they are taking votes as to which of the three everyone prefers best at the exhibition. You can see the image of DA12-24 here; http://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/16927-1200-2-3.html Web master of the digitalcamera.jp (Kumio Yamada, photographer) says that They will be in the market just after the PMA2006., but I can't find out which of 645D, DA12-24 and DA50-200 he refers to. HTH. Sincerely, Takehiko Ueda OSA, JPN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RS I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly Yes, some of them look like they have left them for too long out in the sun... and the poor beast had melted... Good light! fra
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Nah, they have an eye on Canon Eos 1 whatever. Mockup B is there just to show you how nice Pentaxes are. ;o) Actually I find it interesting that Pentax is looking for user feed back on details such as design. I think they've taken very seriously the goal of satisfying the Pentax fans. The DS must have pointed to the right market. No more ambitions of eating into others manufacturers SLR market. Servus, Alin Frantisek wrote: RS I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly F Yes, some of them look like they have left them for too long out in F the sun... and the poor beast had melted...
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Quoting Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps these are all the available customizations, with B aimed to Canon fans. ;o) Servus, Alin AC So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G Nope, it's not just you. However, doesn't matter what *I* think; I don't have any 645 lenses so am totally unlikely to go for this camera regardless of its ultimate shape. Bought an *istD because I had K-mount lenses. ERNR
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Quoting Frantisek [EMAIL PROTECTED]: RS I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly Yes, some of them look like they have left them for too long out in the sun... and the poor beast had melted... Yeah, but Canon has sold a huge number of SLRs that look like that happened to them. :-(
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I actually like the shape of 'B'. It has curves. I've aways thought the 645 looked too much like a box. Tom C. (also likes Citroens) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 08:39:55 -0600 Quoting Alin Flaider [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Perhaps these are all the available customizations, with B aimed to Canon fans. ;o) Servus, Alin AC So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G Nope, it's not just you. However, doesn't matter what *I* think; I don't have any 645 lenses so am totally unlikely to go for this camera regardless of its ultimate shape. Bought an *istD because I had K-mount lenses. ERNR
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Citroens follow the shape of a falling blob, the B (and the thing that inspired it) look like inflated frogs. Servus, Alin Tom wrote: TC Tom C. (also likes Citroens)
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I guess this discussion is going into the most beautiful advertizing ... From what I know of medium format cameras its the specs and the durability that's the main stuff, not the looks.. well maybe not-- if you say its canon and olympus like then its not a camera A canon is for the military to make serious noise and confusion, The Olympos is a mountatin in Greece where the Greecian gods live. Pentax is tool, yearning, complaint, spouse irritator, and hopwfully camera. Cheers, Ronald On 17 Mar 2005 at 13:40, Ronald Arvidsson wrote: Doesn't A look a little bit like the Leica R8? I think maybe it's more like mongrel cross between a Canon IX APS SLR and an Oly E-10 :-( I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998 --
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Alin Flaider wrote: Citroens follow the shape of a falling blob, the B (and the thing that inspired it) look like inflated frogs. Now we know what you do during those long, cold, lonely Romanian winters. Hope Valentin hasn't exported the pastime to Canada 8-) Servus, Alin Tom wrote: TC Tom C. (also likes Citroens)
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Tom C mused: I actually like the shape of 'B'. It has curves. I've aways thought the 645 looked too much like a box. Tom C. (also likes Citroens) Darn. I thought we were going to get a unanimous decision. (Yeah, right. Like that would ever happen here ...)
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Hey, somebody has to speak up for the underdog... :) The thing I don't like about the 'B' is it appears more plasticy... plasticky... plastiky, plastic-like than the others. Tom C. From: John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:09:55 -0500 (EST) Tom C mused: I actually like the shape of 'B'. It has curves. I've aways thought the 645 looked too much like a box. Tom C. (also likes Citroens) Darn. I thought we were going to get a unanimous decision. (Yeah, right. Like that would ever happen here ...)
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Rob Studdert opined: I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly q-: I actually like it. I think they all look awesome, but do lean towards B. I wonder though whether deciding which exterior is to be produced should really be based on a poll of under-glass models. Anything like handling, functionality, ease of manufacture, strength, durability etcetera shouldn't really have a bearing on this decision should it? BTW, model B appears to have the slanted top control plate that was so loved in the MZ-S. I don't think A or C do. Cheers, David Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder. I like the classic straight name. I think the curved nameplate has a cheap look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line. Having said that, there is a dollar amount at which I would be tempted to buy the 645D regardless as to which body Pentax chooses. Village Idiot Rob Studdert opined: I think the B camera is short for Butt-ugly q-: I actually like it. I think they all look awesome, but do lean towards B. I wonder though whether deciding which exterior is to be produced should really be based on a poll of under-glass models. Anything like handling, functionality, ease of manufacture, strength, durability etcetera shouldn't really have a bearing on this decision should it? BTW, model B appears to have the slanted top control plate that was so loved in the MZ-S. I don't think A or C do. Cheers, David Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Village Idiot mused: My biggest complaint aesthetically about B is the curved Pentax nameplate on the front of the viewfinder. I like the classic straight name. I think the curved nameplate has a cheap look to it, as if Pentax was unable to fit it on a straight line. If you look at the B again, there's a big circular ring all around the lens mount, and the name follows this. I don't see any reason for that to be there - while it's large enough for a 67 lens mount by the looks of things, that wouldn't work; the register distance of the 67 is greater than that of the 645.
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- Original Message - From: mike wilson Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here Alin Flaider wrote: Citroens follow the shape of a falling blob, the B (and the thing that inspired it) look like inflated frogs. Now we know what you do during those long, cold, lonely Romanian winters. Hope Valentin hasn't exported the pastime to Canada 8-) Oh Man!! I had forgoten the childhood games of Frog Bowling. I like C, FWIW. It looks like a Pentax. William Robb
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if they are really taking votes on body style before choosing one to (Bmanufacture, that means the camera is at least a year out. (B (BHerb... (B- Original Message - (BFrom: "Takehiko Ueda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BTo: pentax-discuss@pdml.net (BSent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:59 AM (BSubject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here (B (B (B According to another web site (in Japanese), they are (B taking votes as to which of the three everyone prefers (B best at the exhibition.
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i would say, fortunately. they are really ugly. mishka On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:36:16 -0800, Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: unfortunately there's no large version yet.
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Hi all, (B (Bto be more spcific, the site which cotty referred to (Bhttp:dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/other/2005/03/18/1209.html (Bsays as follows; (B (B'beside (the mock-ups), there's an inquiry as to "your (Bimpression from models A, B and C,and your opinion about (Bdigital cameras". lucky 3answerers will be given *ist-ds (B(silver!) with da18-55al, optio750z or optlo wp. the (Biquiry is just for research purpose in development, not (Bthe popularity contestg, and the result will not be (Bpublicised. (B (Bhth (B (Bsincerely, (B (Btakehiko ueda (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bosaka jpn (B (B (B--- Herb Chong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B if they are really taking votes on body style before (B choosing one to (B manufacture, that means the camera is at least a (B year out. (B (B Herb... (B - Original Message - (B From: "Takehiko Ueda" [EMAIL PROTECTED] (B To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net (B Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 1:59 AM (B Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here (B (B (B According to another web site (in Japanese), they (B are (B taking votes as to which of the three everyone (B prefers (B best at the exhibition. (B (B
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Cool lookin' cameras. Shel [Original Message] From: Marco Alpert Not one, not two, but three different mock ups: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ I'm thinking this thing is still pretty far away.
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Marco Alpert wrote: Not one, not two, but three different mock ups: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ I'm thinking this thing is still pretty far away. Maybe, but maybe not. The mirror box, lens mount, electronics, and viewfinder guts might be the same for all three and they're test-driving different external camera shapes. Assuming they're evolving the user interface and image processing stuff from their other DSLRs, this camera might see the light of day in the fall. Anyone know how long it takes to tool up a production line for a new camera body? --Mark
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Mark Erickson mused: Marco Alpert wrote: Not one, not two, but three different mock ups: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ FWIW, I prefer design C. Not that it matters - I don't think I'm getting into MF
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--- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer design C. So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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OK, so it's settled. C it is. Who wants to tell Pentax? -Marco On Mar 16, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Alan Chan wrote: --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer design C. So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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D***! I am frustrated that I can't read that lens development timeline chart. The second pic of the 12-24 (down the page, by itself) has to be the 50-200. This can't be the lens hood for a 12-24. Joe
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IMHO C is by far the best looking and A is definitely the ugliest. Then again, what do I know? Village Idiot OK, so it's settled. C it is. Who wants to tell Pentax? -Marco On Mar 16, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Alan Chan wrote: --- John Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I prefer design C. So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G Alan Chan http://www.pbase.com/wlachan __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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Yeah... sort of reminds me of NASA's Lunar Module.. Tom C. From: Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net To: Pentax List pentax-discuss@pdml.net Subject: 645D Photos (under glass) here Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 18:36:16 -0800 Not one, not two, but three different mock ups: http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ I'm thinking this thing is still pretty far away. There also seems to be a chart with a lens development timeline, but unfortunately there's no large version yet. -Marco
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- Original Message - From: Village Idiot Subject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here ..Then again, what do I know? I don't know. I just don't know. William Robb
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Perhaps these are all the available customizations, with B aimed to Canon fans. ;o) Servus, Alin AC So do I. I think the body shape of B looks really stupid, but it's just me. G
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Hi all, (B (B--- Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B Not one, not two, but three different "mock ups": (B (B http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ (B (B I'm thinking this thing is still pretty far away. (B (B There also seems to be a chart with a lens (B development timeline, but (B unfortunately there's no large version yet. (B (B -Marco (B (B (BAccording to another web site (in Japanese), they are (Btaking votes as to which of the three everyone prefers (Bbest at the exhibition. (B (BYou can see the image of DA12-24 here; (Bhttp://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/16927-1200-2-3.html (B (BWeb master of the digitalcamera.jp (Kumio Yamada, (Bphotographer) says that "They will be in the market just (Bafter the PMA2006.", but I can't find out which of 645D, (BDA12-24 and DA50-200 he refers to. (B (BHTH. (B (BSincerely, (B (BTakehiko Ueda (BOSA, JPN (B[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Well, I like C best, though I don't think I'm going into MF. (B (BSincerely, (B (BTakehiko Ueda (BOSA, JPN (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (B (B (B (B (BFrom: Takehiko Ueda [EMAIL PROTECTED] (BReply-To: pentax-discuss@pdml.net (BTo: pentax-discuss@pdml.net (BSubject: Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here (BDate: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 15:59:46 +0900 (JST) (B (BHi all, (B (B--- Marco Alpert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (B Not one, not two, but three different "mock ups": (B (B http://www.digitalcamera.jp/ (B (B I'm thinking this thing is still pretty far away. (B (B There also seems to be a chart with a lens (B development timeline, but (B unfortunately there's no large version yet. (B (B -Marco (B (B (BAccording to another web site (in Japanese), they are (Btaking votes as to which of the three everyone prefers (Bbest at the exhibition. (B (BYou can see the image of DA12-24 here; (Bhttp://dc.watch.impress.co.jp/cda/parts/image_for_link/16927-1200-2-3.html (B (BWeb master of the digitalcamera.jp (Kumio Yamada, (Bphotographer) says that "They will be in the market just (Bafter the PMA2006.", but I can't find out which of 645D, (BDA12-24 and DA50-200 he refers to. (B (BHTH. (B (BSincerely, (B (BTakehiko Ueda (BOSA, JPN (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] (B (B (B_ (BMSN Hotmail$B$G3+1?%a%k%"[EMAIL PROTECTED]<B;\Cf(B (Bhttp://promotion.msn.co.jp/hotmail/fortune/input_un.asp
Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here
On Mar 16, 2005, at 10:59 PM, Takehiko Ueda wrote: Web master of the digitalcamera.jp (Kumio Yamada, photographer) says that They will be in the market just after the PMA2006., but I can't find out which of 645D, DA12-24 and DA50-200 he refers to. Thanks for the translation! They've already estimated the availability of the DA50-200 for around July. That leaves the DA12-24 and the 645D. I'm guessing the 645D. -Marco
Re: 645D Photos (under glass) here
On 17 Mar 2005 at 15:59, Takehiko Ueda wrote: According to another web site (in Japanese), they are taking votes as to which of the three everyone prefers best at the exhibition. If the C body (*ist D family likeness) is really an option then we can pretty much assume that mechanical aperture coupling won't be an option since the aperture ring will be difficult to operate because of the superfluous prism overhang. Probably as cost saving move. LOL Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
