Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
Am 06.01.21 um 18:07 schrieb John: Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters I have for PHotoshop). ON1 have a selection of plugins for Lightroom and Photoshop. I vaguely remember that, when I installed ON1 Photo RAW, it added some plugins to my LR6. Never used them though. Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom? Ask Adobe where they got theirs from... ;-) Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
> On Jan 6, 2021, at 9:07 AM, John wrote: > > Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters I > have for PHotoshop). Yes it does. > > Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial > recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom? If the facial recognition feature just went away, that would be fine. The problem was not just that it crashed Lightroom, but that it crashed it in such a way that I couldn’t start it up, even in another catalog. I’ve started looking at darktable. It’s interesting that it uses Lua, the same scripting language as lightroom. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
On 1/6/2021 11:07 AM, John wrote: Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters I have for PHotoshop? > Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom? Not a clue on both counts. I don't use Lightroom for much other than cataloging. If I have any image processing to do, I send to Photoshop and do it there. bill On 1/5/2021 13:39:29, Bill wrote: Apparently, facial recognition, among other things is a third party plug-in that is no longer licensed. bill On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 10:48 a.m. Larry Colen, wrote: This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my computer, and it worked. I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application support/Adobe/Lightroom start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash. At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out darktable and dxo On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up without crashing. I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the switchover. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
Does Lightroom take external third party plugins? (Like the Nik Filters I have for PHotoshop). Would it be possible to purchase an individual license for a facial recognition plugin that would work with Lightroom? On 1/5/2021 13:39:29, Bill wrote: Apparently, facial recognition, among other things is a third party plug-in that is no longer licensed. bill On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 10:48 a.m. Larry Colen, wrote: This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my computer, and it worked. I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application support/Adobe/Lightroom start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash. At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out darktable and dxo On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote: I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up without crashing. I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the switchover. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
Apparently, facial recognition, among other things is a third party plug-in that is no longer licensed. bill On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 10:48 a.m. Larry Colen, wrote: > This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my > computer, and it worked. > > I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file > including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application > support/Adobe/Lightroom > start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a > previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that > > if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it > will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash. > > At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out > darktable and dxo > > > On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > > > I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing > some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any > catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling > things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it > still won’t even start up without crashing. > > > > I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up > for the switchover. > > > > > > -- > > Larry Colen > > l...@red4est.com > > > > > > > > > > -- > > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > > PDML@pdml.net > > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > > > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
Same here. Using Bridge, I know where the photos are. Lightroom's "catalog" didn't want to use the storage organization scheme I'd already come up with, while Bridge was fine with doing it my way. In a pinch, I can find the photo I want without actually having to start PHotoshop or Bridge. Irfanview has a plug-in for PEF & DNG files, as does FastStone Image Viewer. I'm still using Photoshop CS6-Extended Edition, the last version that really did have a "perpetual license". On 1/5/2021 07:26:21, Paul Stenquist wrote: I’ve used Bridge as an image management tool in combination with photoshop for 15 years or so. Love it. Lightroom was a non starter for me. Paul On Jan 5, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: I have been staying away from facial recognition so my LR 6 keeps working for the moment. If/when it crashes I think I'll switch to Adobe Bridge as DAM (which is free) in combination with Affinity Photo. I'm using Affinity Photo more and more for adjustments and retouching for which Lightroom is not suitable. Henk Op 2021-01-05 om 10:43 schreef Larry Colen: I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up without crashing. I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the switchover. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
On 1/5/2021 05:09:21, Larry Colen wrote: On Jan 5, 2021, at 2:02 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen: I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the switchover. I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output DAM? Digital Asset Management - why Lightroom has catalogs. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- Science - Questions we may never find answers for. Religion - Answers we must never question. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
This morning I tried starting up lightroom from another account on my computer, and it worked. I had to piff pretty much everything except the the lrcat file including the SLCache and SLStore files in /Library/Application support/Adobe/Lightroom start it up, enter my serial number, then enter the serial number of a previous version, the warning message is really obtuse about that if you start facial recognition in anything, the next time adobe starts it will start in facial recognition mode and immediately crash. At least I can access my existing files, time to start checking out darktable and dxo > On Jan 5, 2021, at 1:43 AM, Larry Colen wrote: > > I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some > facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. > I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, > rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t > even start up without crashing. > > I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for > the switchover. > > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
I’ve used Bridge as an image management tool in combination with photoshop for 15 years or so. Love it. Lightroom was a non starter for me. Paul > On Jan 5, 2021, at 6:19 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: > > I have been staying away from facial recognition so my LR 6 keeps working > for the moment. > If/when it crashes I think I'll switch to Adobe Bridge as DAM (which is free) > in combination with Affinity Photo. > I'm using Affinity Photo more and more for adjustments and retouching for > which Lightroom is not suitable. > > Henk > > Op 2021-01-05 om 10:43 schreef Larry Colen: >> I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some >> facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. >> I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, >> rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t >> even start up without crashing. >> >> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for >> the switchover. >> >> >> -- >> Larry Colen >> l...@red4est.com >> >> >> >> > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
I have been staying away from facial recognition so my LR 6 keeps working for the moment. If/when it crashes I think I'll switch to Adobe Bridge as DAM (which is free) in combination with Affinity Photo. I'm using Affinity Photo more and more for adjustments and retouching for which Lightroom is not suitable. Henk Op 2021-01-05 om 10:43 schreef Larry Colen: I was cleaning up the new version of my working catalog, tried doing some facial recognition, lightroom crashed hard, wouldn’t restart in any catalog. I went through a few iterations of customer help, reinstalling things, rebooting, losing the connection with customer support, and it still won’t even start up without crashing. I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the switchover. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
Am 05.01.21 um 11:09 schrieb Larry Colen: How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions? Rather basic. Their main focus is definitely on image quality. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
> On 5 Jan 2021, at 10:10, Larry Colen wrote: > > I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm >> >> still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output > > DAM? Digital asset management > >> quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And >> that's what counts. > > How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions? See: DAM -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
On Tue., Jan. 5, 2021, 4:10 a.m. Larry Colen, wrote: > > > > On Jan 5, 2021, at 2:02 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > > > Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen: > > > >> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up > for the switchover. > > > > I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm > > still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output > > DAM? > That is what Lightroom is designed to do. Bill > > quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And > > that's what counts. > > How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions? > > > > > I'm not aware of any facial recognition in DxO. Just not on my radar. > > > > If facial recognition and portraiture is one of your main areas you > > Facial recognition isn’t a big one. It can be handy for sorting out photos > of people and/or tagging those photos so I can find the photos of people > later. > > > might want to have a closer look at ON1 Photo RAW. They've been bragging > > a lot lately about their new functions in this area. > > I tried it last year, in large part because it was supposed to be able to > handle lightroom catalogs. I put a couple weeks into it and it was not > ready for prime time. > > They may have improved it, but it just didn’t seem to work all that well > in general. > > -- > Larry Colen > l...@red4est.com > > > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
> On Jan 5, 2021, at 2:02 AM, Ralf R Radermacher wrote: > > Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen: > >> I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for >> the switchover. > > I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm > still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output DAM? > quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And > that's what counts. How are their cataloging, tagging, rating and moving files about functions? > > I'm not aware of any facial recognition in DxO. Just not on my radar. > > If facial recognition and portraiture is one of your main areas you Facial recognition isn’t a big one. It can be handy for sorting out photos of people and/or tagging those photos so I can find the photos of people later. > might want to have a closer look at ON1 Photo RAW. They've been bragging > a lot lately about their new functions in this area. I tried it last year, in large part because it was supposed to be able to handle lightroom catalogs. I put a couple weeks into it and it was not ready for prime time. They may have improved it, but it just didn’t seem to work all that well in general. -- Larry Colen l...@red4est.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Adobe is doing a good job convincing me to try dxo
Am 05.01.21 um 10:43 schrieb Larry Colen: I may consider doing a trial of lightroom classic CC to clean things up for the switchover. I've been using the latest version of DxO's Photolab and, while I'm still suitably unimpressed with its choice of DAM functions, the output quality is at least as good as what I've been getting from LR6. And that's what counts. I'm not aware of any facial recognition in DxO. Just not on my radar. If facial recognition and portraiture is one of your main areas you might want to have a closer look at ON1 Photo RAW. They've been bragging a lot lately about their new functions in this area. Ralf -- Ralf R. Radermacher - Köln/Cologne, Germany Blog : http://the-real-fotoralf.blogspot.com Audio : http://aporee.org/maps/projects/fotoralf Web : http://www.fotoralf.de -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
