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I guess you must source your comparison tests outside the entire suite of UK photographic publications then. -Original Message- From: Paul Stenquist [mailto:pnstenquist;comcast.net] Sent: 13 November 2002 01:41 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Christmas cards Rob Brigham wrote: Consensus is that Canon has now overtaken Epson in the quality stakes. The comparison tests I've seen seem to indicate otherwise. Unless, perhaps, you're tooking about the quality of the machinery rather than the quality of the output. Paul
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I've been using an Epson 1200 for about five years. I've experienced clogged heads five times or so, but the problem was always solved with a nozzle cleaning or two. I'm extremely pleased with the performance of this printer. In my line of work I have the opportunity to review the portfolios of numerous high-dollar pros. Most of the portfolios consist of inkjet prints. I've inquired numerous times in regard to how they were produced. All were done on Epsons. Some on 2000s, some on 1270s or 1280s, and quite a few on the older 1200s. Paul Stenquist Doug Franklin wrote: On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 14:18:14 -, Rob Brigham wrote: If I print more than 2 or so sheets of A4 without running normal porous paper in the meantime then one or other of the heads often clogs. I haven't had a problem like that. If I had, I'd have returned the printer. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Dr E D F Williams wrote: Argh! I rank Epson with Microsoft - as far as business ethics goes. The damn thing uses more ink cleaning the jets than it does printing. I can't keep feeding it at 50 Euros a meal. Can't afford to keep this pet alive. Once, a couple of Christmases back, I used a colour cartridge up - without getting one decent print. So good-bye Epson. Maybe one day I'll buy a printer that has the jets on the cartridges. That's someone like Hewlett Packard ~ but let me tell you, I've had three increasingly more expensive H-Ps, and I've yet to see a home-based H-P (ink-jet) printer that can hold a candle to Epson when it comes to color photographic style images/prints... Gotta be some other, less-expensive answer than Epson's ink-devouring printers, I'd say. Maybe it hasn't been designed yet... On the other hand, I LOVE my Epson digital camera! Outstanding photos! So long as I just keep 'em on a screen somewhere, they're perfect for viewing, and the whole thing is [relatively] inexpensive. keith whaley To start with of course it was wonderful. I got very good prints after the initial setting up - getting the monitor and output to look more or less the same. Don
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I have been using HP at my office; they have the jets built into the cartridge and are very reliable. However, I have been thinking about a new printer for home which will be used extensively for printing photo's now that I have a film scanner and a digital camera (both acquired recently). I am leaning to the Epson line because they do have the jets in the printer, not the cartridge and that makes the cartridges very much cheaper. Also, many of their models use 6 colours with separate cartridges for each so you are not forced to buy a new cartridge just because one colour is depleted. I guess both camps have their pro's and con's. I think I will go with the Epson! Mike. -Original Message- From: Dr E D F Williams [mailto:don.williams;pp.inet.fi] Sent: November 12, 2002 6:06 AM Argh! I rank Epson with Microsoft - as far as business ethics goes. The damn thing uses more ink cleaning the jets than it does printing. I can't keep feeding it at 50 Euros a meal. Can't afford to keep this pet alive. Once, a couple of Christmases back, I used a colour cartridge up - without getting one decent print. So good-bye Epson. Maybe one day I'll buy a printer that has the jets on the cartridges.
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Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess both camps have their pro's and con's. I think I will go with the Epson! Mike. i observed before that at the PhotoPlus Expo in NYC a week ago, anyone who was doing digital output and wasn't a printer vendor was using an Epson. right now, they are the benchmark in quality of photo reproduction. Canon and HP are trying to catch up, but i couldn't tell from what they had at the Expo whether they were close or not. Herb
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Canon S800 and 900 are good Dave Begin Original Message From: Keith Whaley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:23:55 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Christmas cards Dr E D F Williams wrote: Argh! I rank Epson with Microsoft - as far as business ethics goes. The damn thing uses more ink cleaning the jets than it does printing. I can't keep feeding it at 50 Euros a meal. Can't afford to keep this pet alive. Once, a couple of Christmases back, I used a colour cartridge up - without getting one decent print. So good-bye Epson. Maybe one day I'll buy a printer that has the jets on the cartridges. That's someone like Hewlett Packard ~ but let me tell you, I've had three increasingly more expensive H-Ps, and I've yet to see a home-based H-P (ink-jet) printer that can hold a candle to Epson when it comes to color photographic style images/prints... Gotta be some other, less-expensive answer than Epson's ink-devouring printers, I'd say. Maybe it hasn't been designed yet... On the other hand, I LOVE my Epson digital camera! Outstanding photos! So long as I just keep 'em on a screen somewhere, they're perfect for viewing, and the whole thing is [relatively] inexpensive. keith whaley To start with of course it was wonderful. I got very good prints after the initial setting up - getting the monitor and output to look more or less the same. Don End Original Message Pentax User Stouffville Ontario Canada http://home.ca.inter.net/brooksdj/ http://brooks1952.tripod.com/myhorses Sign up today for your Free E-mail at: http://www.canoe.ca/CanoeMail
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Consensus is that Canon has now overtaken Epson in the quality stakes, but the comparable models are double the price and the ink is more expensive too! HP are way behind in quality, but generally ahead in terms of speed. Lexmark are a good budget buy, but be aware you are getting budget quality - possibly above HP though. -Original Message- From: Herb Chong [mailto:HerbChong;compuserve.com] Sent: 12 November 2002 16:19 To: INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Christmas cards Message text written by INTERNET:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I guess both camps have their pro's and con's. I think I will go with the Epson! Mike. i observed before that at the PhotoPlus Expo in NYC a week ago, anyone who was doing digital output and wasn't a printer vendor was using an Epson. right now, they are the benchmark in quality of photo reproduction. Canon and HP are trying to catch up, but i couldn't tell from what they had at the Expo whether they were close or not. Herb
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Hi Mike, On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 07:56:23 -0800, Michael Perham wrote: [...] [some Epson inkjet printers] use 6 colours [...] IMHO, no matter what other choices you make, you _do_ want an inkjet that uses six or more colors. In the Epsons, they add light cyan and light magenta to the normal cyan, magenta, yellow, and black palette. I understand that there are also printers out recently that add a light black (gray) ink for a palette of seven colors, too. Haven't tried one of those. TTYL, DougF KG4LMZ
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Rob Brigham wrote: Consensus is that Canon has now overtaken Epson in the quality stakes. The comparison tests I've seen seem to indicate otherwise. Unless, perhaps, you're tooking about the quality of the machinery rather than the quality of the output. Paul
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I haven't done Xmas cards, but I did the cover of my wedding invitations by applying a filter to a photo in Photoshop to make it look like a painting. It came out great. I know a couple of people who make all their cards at home. You can get great results with a standard inkjet printer and some decent paper or cardstock. Good luck! --Amita
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I look for something interesting to use for a Christmas card. The picture for this season's card was taken last May when Kows for Kids was in town. I slapped a Santa cap on the head of a blue face kow and took a close up of it. When I had the card made up on couple of weeks ago I had this printed on it: Moo ry Christmas and Happy Moo Year. Another season I had a large stuffed frog wearing a Santa cap and gazing up at a computer screen. On the screen it said Happy Holidays! Kiss me quick? Jim A. From: Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 08:08:10 +0800 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Christmas cards Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:08:21 -0500 Hi All, I noticed that Don mentioned taking pictures for a Christmas card. I've been thinking of making some this year. Do other PDMLer do this? If so, any hints or tips? Cheers, Simon Dr E D F Williams wrote: in time for new pictures for this year's Christmas card.
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I do the whole thing using Photoshop. Before I lost faith in that disgusting Epson Photo 750 I printed them, six to an A4 sheet, and mounted them on card. Now only those folk who have who have email connections, and can handle HTML, get cards from us. That's everyone (221) in my address book. Some of the cards turned out rather well. Don Dr E D F Williams http://personal.inet.fi/cool/don.williams Author's Web Site and Photo Gallery Updated: March 30, 2002 - Original Message - From: Mark Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:24 AM Subject: Re: Christmas cards Simon King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, I noticed that Don mentioned taking pictures for a Christmas card. I've been thinking of making some this year. Do other PDMLer do this? If so, any hints or tips? I've done it. Used one of the pre-packages card kits. Actually, the cards were for some friends of my S.O. who did a Sierra Club trip out West a couple of years ago and made friends with some Navaho people on the reservation. They're pretty strapped for money (to put it mildly) so we made Christmas cards for them. They emailed me photos and I tweaked them in Photoshop and blew up a bit with Genuine Fractals (they were pretty small files). Came out quite nice. -- Mark Roberts www.robertstech.com Photography and writing
