Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-15 Thread Igor Roshchin
Wed May 14 22:14:06 EDT 2014
Mark Roberts wrote:

 Alan C wrote:
 
 Mark, if I edit a DNG  save to JPEG, it is as you find.
 However, if I start with a JPEG, it is not.
 
 You need to switch to software that doesn't do that.
  

- Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
- Don't do that!



-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-15 Thread John



On 5/15/2014 8:23 AM, Igor Roshchin wrote:

Wed May 14 22:14:06 EDT 2014
Mark Roberts wrote:


Alan C wrote:


Mark, if I edit a DNG  save to JPEG, it is as you find.
However, if I start with a JPEG, it is not.


You need to switch to software that doesn't do that.



- Doctor, it hurts when I do this.
- Don't do that!


Good advice.

--
Science - Questions we may never find answers for.
Religion - Answers we must never question.

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Alan C wrote:

If a DNG image is edited then converted to a JPEG, the lens ID of an 
identifiable lens is saved in the JPEG EXIF  transferred to Flickr.

However, if one shoots JPEG  then edits, this does not happen even although 
the lens ID code appears in the original JPEG EXIF.

Any ideas?

Whatever software you're using to edit the JPEG must be removing that
part of the EXIF data. This can happen with some software because that
part of the EXIF is a proprietary Pentax thing, but usually you have
to specify that EXIF data get removed. I just tried it in Photoshop
and all the data, including lens, is retained.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Tim Bray
What did you use to edit?  In my experience the exif fields are
retained, so that’s surprising.

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:
 If a DNG image is edited then converted to a JPEG, the lens ID of an
 identifiable lens is saved in the JPEG EXIF  transferred to Flickr.

 However, if one shoots JPEG  then edits, this does not happen even although
 the lens ID code appears in the original JPEG EXIF.

 Any ideas?

 Alan C

 ---
 This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
 protection is active.
 http://www.avast.com


 --
 PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
 PDML@pdml.net
 http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
 to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
 follow the directions.



-- 
- Tim Bray (If you’d like to send me a private message, see
https://keybase.io/timbray)

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Igor Roshchin

Alan,

As others have already said, it would depend on the software.
To add to that, I just wanted to point out that in some software, 
it may also depend on how you export (save) the file into JPEG.
E.g. at least in some versions of Photoshop, the command save for web
(or just saving a web-gallery), would strip off most of the EXIF.

In LR, some of the export defaults (for web, etc.) may also have 
the option keep minimum EXIF check-marked.

Hope this helps,

Igor


Wed May 14 08:14:07 EDT 2014
Alan C wrote:

 If a DNG image is edited then converted to a JPEG, the lens ID of an 
 identifiable lens is saved in the JPEG EXIF  transferred to Flickr.
 
 However, if one shoots JPEG  then edits, this does not happen even
 although 
 the lens ID code appears in the original JPEG EXIF.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Alan C 


-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
..  then edits ... With what?

Godfrey

 
 Alan C wrote:
 
 If a DNG image is edited then converted to a JPEG, the lens ID of an 
 identifiable lens is saved in the JPEG EXIF  transferred to Flickr.
 
 However, if one shoots JPEG  then edits, this does not happen even
 although 
 the lens ID code appears in the original JPEG EXIF.
 
 Any ideas?

-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Alan C

Sorry guys, I should have said I use PSE10.
I'm talking about that graphic of the lens which appears to the right of the 
camera graphic.


Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Tim Bray

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 4:50 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: EXIF QUESTION

What did you use to edit?  In my experience the exif fields are
retained, so that’s surprising.

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 5:14 AM, Alan C c...@lantic.net wrote:

If a DNG image is edited then converted to a JPEG, the lens ID of an
identifiable lens is saved in the JPEG EXIF  transferred to Flickr.

However, if one shoots JPEG  then edits, this does not happen even
although
the lens ID code appears in the original JPEG EXIF.

Any ideas?

Alan C

---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus
protection is active.
http://www.avast.com


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions.




--
- Tim Bray (If you’d like to send me a private message, see
https://keybase.io/timbray)

--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and
follow the directions. 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.

Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Alan C

Mark, if I edit a DNG  save to JPEG, it is as you find.
However, if I start with a JPEG, it is not.

Alan C

-Original Message- 
From: Mark Roberts

Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 2:30 PM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Re: EXIF QUESTION

Alan C wrote:


If a DNG image is edited then converted to a JPEG, the lens ID of an
identifiable lens is saved in the JPEG EXIF  transferred to Flickr.

However, if one shoots JPEG  then edits, this does not happen even 
although

the lens ID code appears in the original JPEG EXIF.

Any ideas?


Whatever software you're using to edit the JPEG must be removing that
part of the EXIF data. This can happen with some software because that
part of the EXIF is a proprietary Pentax thing, but usually you have
to specify that EXIF data get removed. I just tried it in Photoshop
and all the data, including lens, is retained.

--
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and 
follow the directions. 



---
This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection 
is active.
http://www.avast.com


--
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.


Re: EXIF QUESTION

2014-05-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Alan C wrote:

Mark, if I edit a DNG  save to JPEG, it is as you find.
However, if I start with a JPEG, it is not.

You need to switch to software that doesn't do that.
 
-- 
Mark Roberts - Photography  Multimedia
www.robertstech.com





-- 
PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List
PDML@pdml.net
http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net
to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow 
the directions.