Re: Elements 2 ??
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, "David J Brooks" wrote: > Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying > to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. > > Any tips > This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
Thanks Brian. I have forwarded that on to Harry. There are *some* at the old work place i don't mind helping out, but only some.:-) Dave On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, "David J Brooks" > wrote: >> Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying >> to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. >> >> Any tips >> > > > > > This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might > work: > > http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background > > > The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed > for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit > the image to 256 colours. > > > > Cheers > > Brian > > ++ > Brian Walters > Western Sydney Australia > http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ > -- > > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service. > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
He could also save it as a png, which also supports transparency, but retains a larger color range. -p On 2/1/2010 6:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, "David J Brooks" wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.733 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2660 - Release Date: 01/31/10 13:35:00 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, "David J Brooks" wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. ann On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, "David J Brooks" wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
ann sanfedele wrote: >P. J. Alling wrote: > >> PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't >> recommend it but it's available. > >Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on >dark objects) and you get >the full color range. They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
PNG has a lot of overhead, and are much larger than the equivalent Gif. Makes for a slow loading web page if you don't need them. On 2/1/2010 2:45 PM, ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. ann On 2/1/2010 7:34 AM, Brian Walters wrote: On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:58 -0500, "David J Brooks" wrote: Just received an email from an old work friend at MMM group.He is trying to change the back ground colour of a photo from white to transparant. Any tips This tutorial seems to be for a later version of Elements, but it might work: http://activerain.com/blogsview/300201/create-image-with-transparent-background The jpg format doesn't support transparency so, if the image is needed for the web, it will have to be saved in gif format and that will limit the image to 256 colours. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://members.westnet.com.au/brianwal/SL/ -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. That too, but I didn't think of that, and if you're still running IE 6 you get what you deserve... -- {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\deff0\deflang1033{\fonttbl{\f0\fnil\fcharset0 Courier New;}} \viewkind4\uc1\pard\f0\fs20 I've just upgraded to Thunderbird 3.0 and the interface subtly weird.\par } -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
P. J. Alling wrote: On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: ann sanfedele wrote: P. J. Alling wrote: PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't recommend it but it's available. Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. That too, but I didn't think of that, and if you're still running IE 6 you get what you deserve... Ah Thanks guys - no matter to me then... Cafepress's display versions of the designs aren't png, they don't show the original artwork files they print with... they'd be too big. (and since I dont use ANY version of Explorer or Outlook - I wouldn't have noticed. Firefox are us) ann -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
ann sanfedele wrote: >P. J. Alling wrote: > >> On 2/1/2010 2:53 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: >> >>> ann sanfedele wrote: >>> P. J. Alling wrote: >>> > PNG is an option for transparent backgrounds as well. I wouldn't > recommend it but it's available. > Why not? Thats what I use now for all my cafepress designs > (that go on dark objects) and you get the full color range. >>> >>They aren't completely compatible with versions of Internet Explorer >>prior to 7. And there are still a huge number of people (predominantly >>on corporate IT systems) running IE 6. > >> That too, but I didn't think of that, and if you're still running IE 6 >> you get what you deserve... > >Ah Thanks guys - no matter to me then... Cafepress's display versions >of the designs aren't png, they don't show the original artwork files >they print with... they'd be too big. >(and since I dont use ANY version of Explorer or Outlook - I wouldn't >have noticed. Firefox are us) The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no > choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers > built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. I have IE 6, but it sits on my screen as an unused, unloved icon, as it should. Firefox has stolen my heart and the cops said my wallet to. Dave > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. > -- Documenting Life in Rural Ontario. www.caughtinmotion.com http://brooksinthecountry.blogspot.com/ York Region, Ontario, Canada -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
David J Brooks wrote: >On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no >> choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers >> built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. > >I have IE 6, but it sits on my screen as an unused, unloved icon, as it should. >Firefox has stolen my heart and the cops said my wallet to. Because I used to teach web design (not any more - yay!) I have some freeware called "MultipleIE" that lets me install several versions of Internet Explorer on one machine. If you design web pages or have a web site of your own it's an unfortunate fact of life that you need to know what it looks like on many different browsers. I draw the line at IE 6, though: My pages offer basic support for 6 but users of IE 5.5 and earlier are on their own! Here are the stats for my site during January 2010: IE 8 - 51,187 hits IE 7 - 49,173 IE 6 - 27,593 5.5 & earlier - less than 1000 Firefox (all versions) - 64,755 Safari - 23,727 -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 03:47:48PM -0500, P. J. Alling scripsit: > PNG has a lot of overhead, and are much larger than the equivalent > Gif. Makes for a slow loading web page if you don't need them. Only if the PNG has been incompetently produced. Uncompressed PNG will give huge files, but compression is normal and works fine. A comperssed PNG will generally give a smaller file size than the equivalent GIF. (Plus more than 256 colours, transparency, and much more bit depth. PNG is a perfectly good image archive format if you don't already have a TIFF infrastructure.) -- Graydon -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On 2010-02-01 18:22, Mark Roberts wrote: The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. And the poor fools among us who have to develop presentations that are compatible with IE6 so those people can actually use our sites. :-) A, the joys of a virtual machine! -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
Doug Franklin wrote: >On 2010-02-01 18:22, Mark Roberts wrote: > >> The only people still running version 6 of IE are those who have no >> choice because it's on their computers at work and their employers >> built in-house web applications that won't run on later versions. > >And the poor fools among us who have to develop presentations that are >compatible with IE6 so those people can actually use our sites. :-) I guess I should count myself as amongst those! (Though I can't see why I'd put a smiley after that statement!) >A, the joys of a virtual machine! Fortunately, we probably won't have to support IE6 for too much longer: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-2033-264.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10444574-265.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Elements 2 ??
On 2010-02-01 20:40, Mark Roberts wrote: Doug Franklin wrote: And the poor fools among us who have to develop presentations that are compatible with IE6 so those people can actually use our sites. :-) I guess I should count myself as amongst those! (Though I can't see why I'd put a smiley after that statement!) It's one of those "one must laugh to avoid crying" things. Fortunately, we probably won't have to support IE6 for too much longer: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-2033-264.html http://news.cnet.com/8301-30684_3-10444574-265.html I'm hoping. But I'm not taking bets yet. -- Thanks, DougF (KG4LMZ) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.