Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Thank you everyone who commented on the photographs. There're now all 67 of them that I've processed and uploaded. I regret the fact that Mark couldn't see them due to Flickr stuff. I suppose the loss is mostly mine. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Ok! you're very welcome to visit us next time and grab some more pastorale landscapes ;) On 30 September 2013 05:34, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: That's a pity... Well, I am rather certain we will return. I will give you a shout then! On 9/29/2013 10:12 AM, Toine wrote: I see you visited het miljoenenlijntje and de efteling;) I really need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse my gear collects dust. You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this... Toine On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine. Sounds like she might have been carrying some gourmet cheese. One of the best cheeses I've ever eaten smelled worse than a marathon runner's socks. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
I see you visited het miljoenenlijntje and de efteling;) I really need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse my gear collects dust. You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this... Toine On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:30, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Saving themselves from problems created by their own crap design decisions. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:31, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Bob W p...@web-options.com wrote: I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine. Sounds like she might have been carrying some gourmet cheese. One of the best cheeses I've ever eaten smelled worse than a marathon runner's socks. Sounds like Munster (which is very nice). No, she was definitely not carrying gourmet cheese, unless it had grown spontaneously on one of the many unwashed parts of her body. B -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Bob W wrote: On 29 Sep 2013, at 07:30, David Mann dmann...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Saving themselves from problems created by their own crap design decisions. As usual Bob W. has the most succinct analysis. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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You missed yimg.com. I think that's the one that actually has the photos. I have that problem with some other websites, except that NoScript shows literally hundreds domains wanting to feed scripts. There's so many that it's sometimes impossible to find the one domain with the content amongst all the SPAMMERS. Javascript is going to to kill the internet. On 9/28/2013 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 9/29/2013 2:47 AM, Brian Walters wrote: Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. I've noticed that sometimes it takes a while for them to load even with javascript enabled, and I get those blank boxes then. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-) - but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: Am I missing something. Is it politically incorrect to use javascript? On Sep 28, 2013, at 11:16 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-) - but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes too great at that point. If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. Paul via phone On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:58 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-) - but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes too great at that point. If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes too great at that point. If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. One of the other things that irritates me (and it may just be a local problem) is that loading of a web page will often fail because a script tries to load from a third party - or several third parties - which, for some reason aren't communicating with the main page. Various Google and Ad-server scripts are the main culprits and the only way out is to keep hitting the reload button until the system clears. Or just go somewhere else. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul Stenquist wrote: I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Brian Walters wrote: Quoting Bruce Walker bruce.wal...@gmail.com: Only a few curmudgeons -- a high percentage of the PDML makeup -- complain about Javascript, technology which is as much a part of the web underpinnings as HTML and CSS. I expect more than a few still mutter about content vs form while browsing. Any web design done wrong is annoying, not just JS. I wear my curmudgeon-ness with pride! Having said that, I use a bit of Javascript on my own website - there's no rule that says I have to be logical or consistent :-) - but at least the images on my site still show up if JS is disabled. Quite right. There's nothing wrong with a bit of JavaScript. What I object to is JavaScript that loads other JavaScript from third parties. Some of that, in the case of Flickr, seems to itself load still more JavaScript from *fourth* parties. The security risk becomes too great at that point. If I'm visiting whatever.com I'm usually OK with running JavaScript from whatever.com. If the JavaScript at whatever.com tries to load JavaScript from somewhere-else.com I'm cautious. And if the JavaScript from somewhere-else.com tries to load JavaScript from who-knows-where.com I'm outta there. Loading JS from 3rd-parties is an optimization and widely used these days. Lots of people code to load their most common packages (like jQuery and Protoype) from Google because: 1. it's pretty much guaranteed to be there 2. it'll likely be cached by proxy servers for quicker access 3. if everyone does this your browser will only download a single copy instead of hundreds. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a virus or anything like that. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a virus or anything like that. It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until they have one. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a virus or anything like that. It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until they have one. That''s a nice aphorism, but it doesn't tell me much. I don't worry too much about hard drive failures either, in that all my critical docs are backed up twice, and I e-mail my current working doc to myself every couple of hours. But I'm not sure how a website that doesn't load correctly or that doesn't work right can be like a hard drive failure. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm curious. What's the risk? I've never experienced any kind of virus in thirty years of working on computers, and I would guess about 20 years of using the web extensively. But I've always worked on Macs. Are viruses a constant threat to those working on PCs? Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Paul Stenquist pnstenqu...@comcast.net wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 8:40 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:39 PM, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Paul Stenquist wrote: I leave JavaScript enabled and never notice any of that. I use web research extensively in my work and don't have time to F around. I let sites run JavaScript that they host. I don't have the time to take risks. I guess I don't understand the risks. I probably visit 100 sites every day looking for the info I need. Never had a problem, except perhaps the occasional site that won't load. And that''s very infrequent. Never had a virus or anything like that. It's like a hard drive failure. Lots of people never have one. Until they have one. That''s a nice aphorism, but it doesn't tell me much. I don't worry too much about hard drive failures either, in that all my critical docs are backed up twice, and I e-mail my current working doc to myself every couple of hours. But I'm not sure how a website that doesn't load correctly or that doesn't work right can be like a hard drive failure. I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I'm curious. What's the risk? I've never experienced any kind of virus in thirty years of working on computers, and I would guess about 20 years of using the web extensively. But I've always worked on Macs. Are viruses a constant threat to those working on PCs? Oh yes, they certainly are. And thank goodness too: developing security software and support systems to keep PC users safe has paid my bills for the past 18 years. Personally though I use Macs even though they do almost nothing to support security people. ;-) -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
That's a pity... Well, I am rather certain we will return. I will give you a shout then! On 9/29/2013 10:12 AM, Toine wrote: I see you visited het miljoenenlijntje and de efteling;) I really need to spend more time on the list, at least lurking more. Even worse my gear collects dust. You most likely crossed the road nearby my house. If I had know this... Toine On 29 September 2013 08:47, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Quoting David Mann dmann...@gmail.com: On Sep 29, 2013, at 6:55 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Because it dynamically loads the remaining rows as you scroll down. Probably saves load on their servers if people don't bother to look beyond the first couple of rows. Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On Sep 29, 2013, at 7:47 PM, Brian Walters apathy...@lyons-ryan.org wrote: Well no, it didn't. I scrolled the page up and down and the bottom rows stayed blank until I re-enabled Javascript. That's what I meant, it's the Javascript that loads those missing images as you scroll. I've seen a few sites do this, it's a variation of the infinite-scrolling that you see on sites like Facebook or Google Images where they dynamically load more content when you get near the bottom of the page. Cheers, Dave -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Nice set. I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine. B On 28 Sep 2013, at 18:07, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Please notice that so far I've only uploaded my photos from the three first days. More to follow including photos from Galia and possibly from Anat. Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Very enjoyable travelogue. Looking forward to seeing more. On 9/28/2013 12:07 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. Ahh...that the world could learn that lesson from our children. -p 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris -- Being old doesn't seem so old now that I'm old. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Lots of good stuff, I especially liked the photos from Raveleijn and the steam train. Very hard to pick one, but my favorite would be this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/9968303396/in/set-72157635920162295 Tranquil place and an excellent composition. It was really all about enjoying:) (That one made me chuckle). -- Attila On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Great collection of pix, Boris! Looks like you had a great trip! Godfrey On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Looks like you had a terrific time. Looking forward to more stuff, Boris. On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Please notice that so far I've only uploaded my photos from the three first days. More to follow including photos from Galia and possibly from Anat. Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/9/13, Boris Liberman, discombobulated, unleashed: After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Some cracking shots mate. This one stands out for me http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/9953703795/in/set-72157635920162295 -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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On 28/9/13, Bob W, discombobulated, unleashed: I wish train carriages were still like that. Or better still, entirely closed, although I did once get stuck in one for most of the journey from Paris to Geneva with a bag lady who smelt strongly of stale urine. You're blind - I wasn't wearing a dress. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv _ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Sorry, we were unable to deliver your message to the following address. pdml@pdml.net: Remote host said: 550 is in an RBL, see Blocked - see http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?98.139.212.165; [RCPT_TO] --- Below this line is a copy of the message. I like this one best: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/9953703795/in/set-72157635920162295/lightbox/ On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Hi Boris - Great gallery - This is about enjoying - that phrase sums it up! Interesting mechanical dragon-bird as well. The BW of the gentleman on the train is my favorite, but they are all very enjoyable. Mark On 9/28/2013 1:07 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Please notice that so far I've only uploaded my photos from the three first days. More to follow including photos from Galia and possibly from Anat. Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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A very nice set, Boris. Love the view from Valkenburg castle. Many fine photos. Paul On Sep 28, 2013, at 9:44 PM, Mark C pdml-m...@charter.net wrote: Hi Boris - Great gallery - This is about enjoying - that phrase sums it up! Interesting mechanical dragon-bird as well. The BW of the gentleman on the train is my favorite, but they are all very enjoyable. Mark On 9/28/2013 1:07 PM, Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Please notice that so far I've only uploaded my photos from the three first days. More to follow including photos from Galia and possibly from Anat. Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Excellent set of travel images. Dan Matyola http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Please notice that so far I've only uploaded my photos from the three first days. More to follow including photos from Galia and possibly from Anat. Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. -- Mark Roberts - Photography Multimedia www.robertstech.com -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
Re: Having returned from the vacation in Holland, Germany and Belgium and having met some wonderful PDMLers on the way
Wonderful set! Beautiful scenery and good friends; a very hard to beat combination! Cheers, frank Boris Liberman bori...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ Please notice that so far I've only uploaded my photos from the three first days. More to follow including photos from Galia and possibly from Anat. Quick recap: 1. Ecke, Ralf (and Michael) and Thibs are totally cool :-). We had grand time last weekend. I have witnessed first hand how two 5 year olds (Anat and Ecke's son) befriend each other at no time, language barrier not presenting any issue whatsoever. 2. No Pentax gear except W30 for Anat was taken on this trip. Two AF modules acquitted themselves perfectly in Galia's hands (I shot several shots with both of them when I got lazy with my MF lenses). Nokton 40/1.4 and Heliar 15/4.5 (Cotty :-) ) are excellent lenses. All this gear is so small and light that I could totally afford taking it with me at all times. 3. I have realized that returning to the places I've visited before is very special experience that I very much like. May the light be with you and please have a look at the photographs and return often as I am working pretty much every evening to edit and upload more. Boris “Analysis kills spontaneity.” -- Henri-Frederic Amiel -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Looks like you had a ball. Wonderful memories. Nice weather too. Alan -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
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Quoting Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com: Boris Liberman wrote: Hi! After this link you find the photos from our vacation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/borispdml/sets/72157635920162295/ So... I clicked the link and got a blank page. Aah I thought, it's one of those sites designed by people too incompetent to be able to display a simple image without JavaScript. So I enabled JavaScript for flickr.com. Still no images. But now NoScript showed yahooapis.com as an additional JavaScript source. So I enabled that. Still no image happiness. But yahoo.com now appeared in the NoScript list so I enabled JavaScript from there. (Seriously guys, three different domains doing nothing but feeding scripts?) Alas, still no images. I haven't tried to look at a Flickr page for probably about a year and I'd heard that Flickr had become even worse in the interim. Boy, does this confirm it. Sorry, Boris. I've jumped through enough hoops and Flickr still won't show me your photos. Interesting. I have NoScript installed and even though the page produced the message Scripts Currently Forbidden, I was still able to view Boris' images without enabling Javascript for flickr.com - but only for the top five rows (the first 19 images), the remainder were displayed as blank boxes. So I enabled Javascript and the remaining images loaded. I disabled Javascript again and the blank boxes returned. Very odd. Why would I be able to see some of the images with JS disabled? Anyway, leaving Flickr weirdness aside, I enjoyed the photos Boris, especially This is about Enjoying, Steam Train and Local Politics (brings back (unpleasant) memories of our recent elections) -- Cheers Brian ++ Brian Walters Western Sydney Australia http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/ -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
